#SwDMathChat Archive
Thursday November 10, 2016
9:00 PM EST
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
Welcome to
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! Please introduce yourself (where are you, what do you teach?)
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
I'm Ann. I teach HS special ed and math at an international school in Jakarta, Indonesia. It's 9am on Friday over here :)
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
Hi
@anndurham13
! Andy, self-contained special educator from NYC.
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In reply to @anndurham13
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Welcome, Andy!
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In reply to @bkdidact
aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
Angie Boone, middle school resource teacher, from Cheney Kansas
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
Thanks for joining us, Angie!
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In reply to @aboone_angie
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
We'll use the Q1/A1 format. Please remember to include the hashtag
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in your responses.
kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
Kristin here. Mid school math teacher
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
Welcome, Kristin. Thanks for joining us
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In reply to @kncaton
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
Hopefully
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can get a couple crossovers from
#elemmathchat
as well, right
@MNmMath
@DDibley123
? ;)
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
First question coming up!
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
Q1: What barriers do students with disabilities face in classroom and/or standardized testing environments?
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AssignmentHelpN
Nov 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
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kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
Ss not being assessed on math indicator when test language interferes.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
A1: Every student is different and faces different barriers. Teachers can affect classrooms. Who affects standardized testing?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
Q1: What barriers do students with disabilities face in classroom and/or standardized testing environments?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
Are there examples of language that regularly gets in the way?
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In reply to @kncaton
aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
A1: it is difficult for my Ss to be tested above grade level. They may not have been exposed to content
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
Teachers can't necessarily change the standardized experience but can help prepare/support Ss, right?
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In reply to @bkdidact
kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
Last unit in number sense...deposit, descending, profit, withdrawal...language not familiar
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
Slippery slope there between preparing/supporting to teaching to test and mitigating classroom work.
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In reply to @anndurham13
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
Great! They may know the concepts but don't have the opp to demonstrate this if they don't "get" what it's asking
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In reply to @kncaton
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
Thinking more along the lines of giving them the skills and accommodations to approach different types of problems
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q2: Addressing some of the barriers: Which accommodations help your Ss demonstrate their understanding in testing situations?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
I get that! I think Instructional Routine Connecting Reps by
@GraceKelemanik
@AmyLucenta
is great for this!
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In reply to @anndurham13, @GraceKelemanik, @AmyLucenta
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
Recognizing that different student needs require different accommodations and approaches to testing
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q2: Addressing some of the barriers: Which accommodations help your Ss demonstrate their understanding in testing situations?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
A2: Anything that does not negate validity of assessment, but does allows for access for student.
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
Q2: Addressing some of the barriers: Which accommodations help your Ss demonstrate their understanding in testing situations?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
Some Ts argue a calculator shouldn't be allowed. At what point is it providing access and not advantage?
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In reply to @bkdidact
aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
A2: we read ?'s, use more friendly numbers, allow extra time, & orally answer ?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2 For some Ss it's as simple as testing in a quiet space.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
A2: Could include scribing, reading aloud, manipulating objects with student’s dictation.
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
I am interested in the “more friendly numbers” idea. Think this effects mathematical skills being assessed?
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In reply to @aboone_angie
aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
When Ss need to progress to more complex math, I give calculator access.
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In reply to @anndurham13, @bkdidact
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
What does everyone think about reminding students to take their time during test?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
I think many Ss need this reminder! They often rush and make silly errors that could be avoided
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In reply to @bkdidact
kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
A2. provide organizers, restate questions with understandable vocab, return to skill
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
Do you think it negates validity of assessment?
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
Filing this in the right place! Thanks for joining in!
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ASanfordIRT
Nov 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
Depends-order of operations or integers,no calculator. I allowed Ss to use mult.table instead. Other topics calc. is ok
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
Depends on the assessment I suppose. If the S knows the math but can't show it bc they rush, then it provides access
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
That's a good strategy!
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In reply to @ASanfordIRT, @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
Q3 coming up soon!
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aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
when my HS students graph points are whole numbers, MS Ss proportions- no decimals
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
Yes, I see a difference in calc use depending on what the test is assessing
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In reply to @ASanfordIRT
help4tchrs
Nov 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
@bkdidact
I am a retired math tchr/principal wanting to
#supportteachers
especially
#newteachers
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
Q3: What tips do you have for math teachers who want to create assessments that are more accessible for SwD?
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
I love this
@TCM_at_NCTM
article on calc use for SwD!
https://t.co/r6ec7ATWOr
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In reply to @anndurham13, @ASanfordIRT, @TCM_at_NCTM
aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
So important! One reason I like to have my inclusion students test with me!
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
Thanks for joining us! Look forward to your perspectives.
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In reply to @help4tchrs
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3 I notice many Ss struggling to show work on tests with little white space. I encourage Ts to format tests more openly
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bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
A3: Know your students. Make assessments that assess only the students in your class. Not last year’s class or next year’s.
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
Q3: What tips do you have for math teachers who want to create assessments that are more accessible for SwD?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
Great resource! Thanks for sharing!
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In reply to @bkdidact, @ASanfordIRT, @TCM_at_NCTM
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
A3 Also help Ts understand WHY some Ss need accommodations or different approaches to testing. Fair is not always equal
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aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
A3: make sure that the language is not a barrier to the math concepts
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ASanfordIRT
Nov 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A3 Remembering the goal for the test is for Ss to show what they know & are able to do - not a gotcha!
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
A3 Avoid problems with multiple parts leading off each other. If a S makes a mistake at the start, the rest of it is wrong
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kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
A3. Incorporate multi levels of performance type questions. Expose all to top level but feel success in current level
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
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Final question coming up...
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q4: What are your favorite review and/or study strategies to help students prepare for assessments such as tests or exams?
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kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
Errors can snowball quickly.
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
A4: The Instructional Routine: Connecting Representations as well as interleaving.
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
Q4: What are your favorite review and/or study strategies to help students prepare for assessments such as tests or exams?
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
A4: A huge factor is ensuring conceptual understanding over "following steps" so Ss can apply their understanding in diff probs
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ASanfordIRT
Nov 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
Q4:Games which SwD can be paired with other Ss to collaborate. Kagan pairs check strategy also works well.
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
Students often love massed practice. How do you get them to buy into interleaving?
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In reply to @bkdidact
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
Just slide it in there. Students and teachers are just used to massed practice. New is hard, but worth it.
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In reply to @anndurham13
bkdidact
- Moderator
Nov 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
Also honestly, we do our fair share of massed practice as well.
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In reply to @anndurham13
kncaton
Nov 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
A4. Kahoot gets them pumped
@GetKahoot
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aboone_angie
Nov 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
A4: my Ss like games, scavenger hunts, white board practice
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anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
Same :) But I've tried to encourage Ts to loop back to previous concepts and skills instead of isolating by unit
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In reply to @bkdidact
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
Getting them on whiteboards provides great formative feedback for teacher and student as well!
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In reply to @aboone_angie
anndurham13
Nov 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
Any final thoughts on ways to support SwD before or during assessments?
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