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Welcome to the #DevDiscuss Twitter chat, tonight's topic is ETHICS!

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grmpyprogrammer Apr 11 @ 9:05 PM EDT

I pursued a job at Mozilla for a chance to work in the open on things that really matter online #DevDiscuss

In reply to @ThePracticalDev

douglasbastosok Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

test #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

AlexB138 Apr 11 @ 9:08 PM EDT

I'm a fan of Aristotelian ethics. Nicomachean, specifically. Answering how we as humans should live best makes the rest trivial. #DevDiscuss

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:09 PM EDT

#devdiscuss I would think 'what to do with all this data' is a common issue that most companies seem to be ignoring

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bendhalpern Apr 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Avoiding dark UI patterns that *could* make more money for the company, not storing data that *could* make more money, etc. #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

Aar0n_Shaver Apr 11 @ 9:10 PM EDT

Putting a nervous dev at a whiteboard in front of several people should be a violation of the 8th Amendment #DevDiscuss

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bendhalpern Apr 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT

It's easy to have a "just doing my job" approach to implementing the ticket you're given, but it is up to you to speak up. #DevDiscuss

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:11 PM EDT

#devdiscuss I know it's a minor thing, but honestly 'opt out' versus 'opt in' bugs me

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kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Personal data. Apple versus FBI Amazon versus Unsolved Murder Twitter versus Trump Admin #DevDiscuss

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bendhalpern Apr 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT

This podcast episode by @BillSourour on ethics of our trade was a great listen #DevDiscuss https://t.co/8Zd9HHp4TG

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sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:12 PM EDT

Should I spend my free time learning new tech, taking on freelance work, or giving back to the community via edu/resources? #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

jxpx777 Apr 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT

One of the many reasons I love working on @1Password is that I have never been tempted to violate my ethics. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:13 PM EDT

Healthcare conflicts. Drug company tricking customers into buying their drug with symptom matching quizzes. #devdiscuss

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AlexB138 Apr 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Balancing needs of the business with providing best value for customers. If the org doesn't survive we can't continue to create. #DevDiscuss

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kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Companies can make many bad decisions when it comes to customers best interest. They are blinded by profitability. #devdiscuss

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joelkinzel Apr 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT

Testing/security are almost always at odds with the business's desire/need to keep costs low. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

jxpx777 Apr 11 @ 9:14 PM EDT

On the flip side, having been so fortunate, I’m not sure I would recognize a subtle ethical challenge. #devdiscuss https://t.co/lQeQsH21xT

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Always do right by your users. Treat them like people and make sure what you create can never be used against them. #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Developers are a line of defense for the consumer. You should take a step back and analyze exactly what you're building and why #devdiscuss

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gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Weighing "fast but huge technical debt" vs. "slower while doing it right". Both individual & corporately decided. #DevDiscuss

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tremendous3 Apr 11 @ 9:15 PM EDT

Developers esp those at the data + analytics level must decide the scope of tracking of their users. Curious? Creepy? Stalker? #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Ohh this is an interesting one from the perspective of safety critical systems #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

sbrady12345 Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT

Something as simple as 'should I refactor this/write a test' is an ethical choice. #devdiscuss

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MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT

#devdiscuss the naive/conservative approach would be: treat everything as safety critical. Doesn't work in practice - too much overhead

mrskellyvaughn Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT

It's easy (and sometimes tempting) to take shortcuts when coding. Spend more time up front or worry about small errors later? #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

joelkinzel Apr 11 @ 9:16 PM EDT

If data is sensitive or defects have real-life consequences (autonomous vehicles) devs should push back when cuts are proposed. #devdiscuss

kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

Indie developers aren't protected either. Anyone recall why Flappy Bird was pulled from the store? #DevDiscuss

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hossam_mo7amad Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

They shouldn't implement features knowing it would harm the users. Even if this features will make them money #devdiscuss

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MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

#devdiscuss becomes an interesting tradeoff of what is actually safety critical? When must it be verified by? What level for we prototype to

bendhalpern Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

I think a lot about the ethics of marketing automation. The difference between acceptable automation and spam is very gray #DevDiscuss

aprilwensel Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

I feel remorse for implementing spammy notifications when working at a FB game co. Misleading messages are unethical. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

mrskellyvaughn Apr 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Security will always be a big topic. Storage of personal data/credit card info, HIPAA acknowledgement in the US #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

TimSteeno Apr 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT

What is OK to scrape without permission? Archive without permission? Combine with other sources without explicit consent? #devdiscuss

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MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT

#devdiscuss in R&D but safety critical systems this is extra challenging. When is it actually a "product" and not a lab prototype?

MD_Morrison Apr 11 @ 9:18 PM EDT

Being assigned to build an app for a high interest CC that would be usury in the US but is legal in the country of release. #DevDiscuss

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sarabadu Apr 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT

#devdiscuss have to much access in production data

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MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT

#devdiscuss I don't have easy answers to these questions. Every program will encounter them & orgs need to be cognizant of the implications

GuybrushArgento Apr 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT

When you have to debig someone elses code. It builds. It even works apparently fine eventough you know code is not clean enough #DevDiscuss

In reply to @psema4, @ThePracticalDev

luketgriffith1 Apr 11 @ 9:19 PM EDT

When I have an open-ended problem, do I code what I like best or what I think the end user will like the best? #devdiscuss

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sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT

I'm curious if airlines consider overbooking flights a "feature" because it sure as hell is an externality for customers/users. #devdiscuss

hossam_mo7amad Apr 11 @ 9:17 PM EDT

They shouldn't implement features knowing it would harm the users. Even if this features will make them money #devdiscuss
In reply to @ThePracticalDev

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:20 PM EDT

Though is that "compelled ethical behavior" or "behaving ethically, even if compelled by a court order to act contraethical"? #DevDiscuss

In reply to @command_tab, @jxpx777, @1Password, @ThePracticalDev

sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT

I think for a dev company, anytime you create externalities for your users simply for profits, it involves ethics #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT

#devdiscuss I suppose there's some low hanging fruit. Processes must be stringent, but not cumbersome. Doing things right has to be easy

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT

Marketing department: "It's no longer on fire? Let's ship it!" 😒 #DevDiscuss

In reply to @MightyPupil

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:22 PM EDT

#devdiscuss The first time i realized they figured out how to 'cross site' advertising based on my googl searches totally freaked me out

In reply to @GurgDev, @ThePracticalDev

MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:23 PM EDT

More likely: "Oh our sponsors want animal data ASAP or we lose funding, you fly out tomorrow" #devdiscuss

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:26 PM EDT

#devdiscuss no data is harmless, the problem with new technologies is 'bad' usually is ahead of good for a long while

In reply to @GurgDev, @ThePracticalDev

Zetta444 Apr 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Using stolen logos and assets, cracked tools, compromising user privacy explicitly #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

aprilwensel Apr 11 @ 9:27 PM EDT

Creating addictive tech. It's a product issue, but *every* individual has a duty to speak up about it (https://t.co/7zWrTACsOw) #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

Programazing Apr 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Looks like I'm gonna miss #DevDiscuss

AmbroseStallion Apr 11 @ 9:28 PM EDT

Marketing - should we push out a feature that is useless, but technically fulfills a customer's demands? #devdiscuss

In reply to @ThePracticalDev

jophuzz Apr 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Informing a client about security vulnerabilities they missed, ignored, or weren't aware of when discovered during development #DevDiscuss

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT

Better is a relative word, 'no policing' to 'some' policing is considered better, but self policing is nonsense #devdiscuss

In reply to @aprilwensel

julioolvr Apr 11 @ 9:29 PM EDT

#devdiscuss setting the bar for accessibility - probably should happen at the org level, but as an individual there's stuff that can be done

In reply to @ThePracticalDev

kimberlypilbeam Apr 11 @ 9:30 PM EDT

We live in a different world now. You have to be conscious of users best interest. Always. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:07 PM EDT

What are the ethical choices developers must make on a consistent basis? What is up to the individual, what is more org level? #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

joelkinzel Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

Devs need to be user advocates within the business. Users and business may not fully understand implications of a decision. #devdiscuss

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

There's a distinction between CYA for your own sake ("Just following orders") and CYA to stand up for what's right. #DevDiscuss

In reply to @aprilwensel, @sohaybh, @ThePracticalDev

TimSteeno Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

for data and analytics devs the integrity of the results is key. Are you free from demand to make the numbers fit a narrative? #devdiscuss

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sarabadu Apr 11 @ 9:32 PM EDT

Do IT rigth or Deliver no time #devdiscuss

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grmpyprogrammer Apr 11 @ 9:32 PM EDT

It’s all about the dollar-dollar-bills y’all #devdiscuss

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MightyPupil Apr 11 @ 9:33 PM EDT

Capitalism #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

heyjohnmurray Apr 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Impending deadlines, real or arbitrary #devdiscuss

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bendhalpern Apr 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Enough "just this one time" and "not my problem" and eventually shitty unethical behavior just becomes the norm. #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:34 PM EDT

Almost always the company's desire to make more money and few engineers having enough of a backbone to speak up #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

rkrueger11 Apr 11 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Bystander effect.. No-one wants to be "that" person and say, "hey, I don't think we should do this". #devdiscuss

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yousuf604_ Apr 11 @ 9:35 PM EDT

Lack of sales. In my previous company, marketing team had some dev's make mock-ups of fake features to try to get sales... :/ #DevDiscuss

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gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT

TFW you first/finally have the seniority to oppose executives without fear of reprisal. Oh, yeah. #DevDiscuss

In reply to @aprilwensel, @sohaybh, @ThePracticalDev

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT

#devdiscuss Luckily for me (lucky?) I've always been the person who says that - doesn't make friends much

In reply to @rkrueger11, @ThePracticalDev

moriahmaney Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT

I believe it's at least partially due to the lack of diversity & perspective as to what may be harmful #devdiscuss

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT

#devdiscuss I find comments like this while well meaning a bit extreme - fear for your job and feeding your family isn't 'a backbone'

In reply to @EntirelyAmelia, @ThePracticalDev

mrskellyvaughn Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Taking on more than the org can handle. Hiring untrained/careless people. Things will inevitably slip through the cracks. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

nilixblue Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT

Never had to ship as a team but Negligence and Complacency drive the loss of ethics in absolutely any system, tech or not. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

jamessamsf Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT

how much is it unethical code decisions and how much is it unethical typical white-collar business decisions? #DevDiscuss

In reply to @ThePracticalDev

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:38 PM EDT

#devdiscuss Game Companies and FaceBook are symbiotic (parasitic off the user) - they can't police themselves or each other - 3rd party

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sprain Apr 11 @ 9:39 PM EDT

I'd say that's ok as long as you actually deliver the feature if the client buys it. #DevDiscuss

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EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:39 PM EDT

There are more programming jobs than programmers out there. You can find a new one. #DevDiscuss

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heyjohnmurray Apr 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Fear of being seen as a bottleneck by colleagues or managers, a result of misguided interpretation of "fail fast. fail often" #devdiscuss

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EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Of course, feeding family is important,but you're still responsible for what you have your hands in #DevDiscuss

In reply to @MageeWorld, @ThePracticalDev

aprilwensel Apr 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT

I get the reprisal; I just have more options now. In fact, I was forced to resign from a company for speaking out about ethics. #devdiscuss

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:36 PM EDT

TFW you first/finally have the seniority to oppose executives without fear of reprisal. Oh, yeah. #DevDiscuss
In reply to @aprilwensel, @sohaybh, @ThePracticalDev

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Once the sewage is in the water, it doesn't matter whether you put it in a glass or a mug. #DevDiscuss

In reply to @jamessamsf, @ThePracticalDev

clipperhouse Apr 11 @ 9:40 PM EDT

Because people tend not to stick around while I explain the principal-agent problem. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

keyboardwah Apr 11 @ 9:41 PM EDT

Blocking the Apple logo is a sin #DevDiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:03 PM EDT

Welcome to the #DevDiscuss Twitter chat, tonight's topic is ETHICS!

EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:41 PM EDT

A lot of awful things get justified by logic like that. We all need to take responsibility #DevDiscuss

In reply to @MageeWorld, @ThePracticalDev

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:41 PM EDT

I like to see that on resumes when interviewing though. I want to hire people who will call me on it if I'm wrong. #DevDiscuss

In reply to @aprilwensel

NickolayKolev Apr 11 @ 9:43 PM EDT

RT gumnos: MightyPupil Marketing department: "It's no longer on fire? Let's ship it!" 😒 #DevDiscuss

gumnos Apr 11 @ 9:43 PM EDT

Putting a logo in my sticker-putting-spot is a sin 😉 #DevDiscuss

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0x424c41434b Apr 11 @ 9:44 PM EDT

Organization not implementing ethics in their processes. The code review should include an ethical check as well #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:44 PM EDT

#devdiscuss money money money, lots of money, that's what people want

mrskellyvaughn Apr 11 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Taking on more than the org can handle. Hiring untrained/careless people. Things will inevitably slip through the cracks. #devdiscuss
- ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT
  
  What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

aprilwensel Apr 11 @ 9:45 PM EDT

Well that's my last #DevDiscuss... can't escape the condescension of the privileged white guy, apparently.

MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:46 PM EDT

#devdiscuss - no tech exp yet but 1. No guidelines provided from up top 2. No checking rush to ship (MVP y'all) 3. Money Money Money

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:46 PM EDT

#devdiscuss Tech Companies have invented all these new fancy titles for people, do any of them have a 'chief ethicist'?

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MageeWorld Apr 11 @ 9:47 PM EDT

#devdiscuss MAYBE yo ucan find a new one, being blase about peoples lives isn't a way to win your argument

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EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:49 PM EDT

You're saying I'm blasé abt ppl's lives when I'm willing to put my job on the line to protect them #devdiscuss

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CWReaceJr Apr 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT

Lack of a rigorous and enforced code review process, perhaps? #devdiscuss

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sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT

I use to make Flash ads when I first started. I went home feeling dirty, like I was filling the world with garbage :( #devdiscuss

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EntirelyAmelia Apr 11 @ 9:50 PM EDT

You can keep yr mouth shut if you want, but that doesn't make you not complicit #DevDiscuss

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mrskellyvaughn Apr 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT

I'm looking at you, serial copy/pasters from Stack Overflow #devdiscuss

sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:51 PM EDT

Luckily, once we get more established, we also have more mobility and more control of what we decide to work on. I feel ya #devdiscuss

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CWReaceJr Apr 11 @ 9:53 PM EDT

Good point: I was thinking unethical devs, but devs doing things the business wants that devs don't like is difficult choice #devdiscuss

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sprain Apr 11 @ 9:53 PM EDT

I'd say sometimes it's desperation: Things are going downhill. Let's try something "clever". #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

with_lainnie Apr 11 @ 9:54 PM EDT

Saying no to your boss, it's part of the job! #DevDiscuss https://t.co/SckRXNZwmL https://t.co/dfqWfcTXIy The Programmer's Oath 🤣

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joelkinzel Apr 11 @ 9:55 PM EDT

Exponential growth (causes hiring the wrong people) or being on the verge of death (and looking to just hold on a bit longer). #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

joelkinzel Apr 11 @ 9:56 PM EDT

More so than anything: hiring the right people is really, really hard. Erosion happens slowly over time. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

sebnitu Apr 11 @ 9:57 PM EDT

When a company makes profits over people. This is also in relation to how it treats it's developers as well as users/customers. #devdiscuss

ThePracticalDev Apr 11 @ 9:31 PM EDT

What forces cause ethics in an organization to erode? With so many people touching software, how does unethical code ship? #devdiscuss

JeffBallweg Apr 11 @ 9:58 PM EDT

Accessibility. Lots of pressure to delay, de-prioritise making UIs accessible. #a11y #devdiscuss

In reply to @ThePracticalDev