#divergED Archive
Tuesday May 2, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
#divergED
will be in a Q/A format. Mark responses w/ A1...2...etc. This is a 30-min chat, so buckle in!
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Don't forget to include the hashtag
#divergED
so everyone can follow along...
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
This chat is chalk full of examples, actions, risk-taking, disruptive innovations,
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thinking...so bring it
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#divergED
. Please share your name & where you are from.
participatechat
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
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by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/YMhZ30FxfM
EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Mike from PA
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teresagross625
May 2 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Teresa, MS Literacy Teacher, NY.
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theaddisonpate
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Addison from TN
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JWMcMillan803
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
James in SC.
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embonds970
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Emily from CA!
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lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Lenette from Louisiana joining in!
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Nate, from Nashville, happy to be with you all!
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teresagross625
May 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi!
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In reply to @lmhawkhill
teresagross625
May 2 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Evening sir!
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In reply to @nalang1
lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Heyyyyy Teresa!
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In reply to @teresagross625
bsepe7
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Brian in Buffalo, NY.
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Tim
@Kubikhan
here
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! Originally from Nova Scotia, then back to family home in Eastern Iowa. Now in Northern Colorado.
rownbey
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Rylee, MS
#sped
Valdez, AK!
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DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Diana also from Buffalo!
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Patrick, Middle School ELA teacher from West Palm Beach, FL. Looking forward to the chat!
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Welcome to the 3rd chat in the
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series "Is **** Good or Bad?" Tonight: Is direct instruction good or bad?
teresagross625
May 2 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hey "neighbor"?
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In reply to @bsepe7
bsepe7
May 2 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hey Teresa, I hope things are going well!
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In reply to @teresagross625
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Q1 coming up in 1 minute...
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CurtButler1
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Curt Butler, Mt. Pleasant, Tn
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stephensonmused
May 2 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Hi! David, music educator & aspiring district-level leader, from SC.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: We all know that direct instruction isn't lecturing. Still, why does DI have twice the effect size an inquiry-based T&L?
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PapaBacher
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Austin from Dallas, TX K-6 music specialist at
@SkyviewElem
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Could it be that it's the "game of school" students have learned how to play
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? Change the game, change the effect, at first.
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: We all know that direct instruction isn't lecturing. Still, why does DI have twice the effect size an inquiry-based T&L?
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EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 The system was designed for it...unfortunately the "system" no longer prepares our Ss
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theaddisonpate
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Clarification on Q1. When we say "twice the effect size" are we discussing a standardized test measurement of the test groups?
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Dr. Nancy Sulla here at
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! Creator of the Learner-Active, Technology-Infused Classroom
#LATIC
; moderator of
#LATICchat
; author:
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
RTQ1: We all know that direct instruction isn't lecturing. Still, why does DI have twice the effect size an inquiry-based T&L?
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Welcome Austin!
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In reply to @PapaBacher, @SkyviewElem
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
HI David!
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In reply to @stephensonmused
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Welcome Curt!
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In reply to @CurtButler1
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: DI, done well, is rich & interactive. Inquiry can & must work well too, but is prob more challenging to facilitate than DI
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Welcome Patrick!
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In reply to @patrickfhansen
massignmenthelp
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#WCPSMDLead
#ctedu
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#Teach2Teach
#Ohio_MLA
Tips for Learning Mathematics to Students
https://t.co/4jSNAvgzTZ
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Great to see you Diana!
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In reply to @DianaMaskell
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Q2 Coming up in 1 minute...
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1a) DI could be offered without lecture: learning activities, how-to sheets, small-group lessons, one-on-one facilitation
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Great to see you my friend!
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In reply to @Kubikhan
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Hey my friend!
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In reply to @bsepe7
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Welcome Addison!
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In reply to @theaddisonpate
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: How have you made direct instruction more engaging? What are the key elements of direct instruction?
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
HI Nancy!
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In reply to @nsulla
rownbey
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1 in my own journey to shift DI 2 inquiry I believe DI is still relevant. I don't think it has to be one or the other, blend both
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stephensonmused
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: We do a form of DI in music ensembles constantly. Ss sing. T gives feedback. Ss attempt again. Rinse; repeat.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Welcome Rylee!
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In reply to @rownbey
PapaBacher
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Direct Instruction with meaningful student interaction really impact Brain neuroplasticity through numinous experiences
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Mmore challenging to do inquiry well, as a practice, or more challenging with regard to institutional culture
@WeberEducation
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?
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: DI, done well, is rich & interactive. Inquiry can & must work well too, but is prob more challenging to facilitate than DI
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EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2 Visuals, Qs, Ss discussion, and most of all....a purpose for it
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1b) Engage Ss through problem-based learning and provide DI in a variety of non-lecture ways.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Great "neuro-jargon" Austin ;)
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In reply to @PapaBacher
PapaBacher
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: We provide Ss with opportunities to Talk Read Talk and Write during the direct instruction to ensure Ss engagement
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A!) Right
@nsulla
. An instruction manual is DI, too. Lots of options, question is whether learners want those options
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1a) DI could be offered without lecture: learning activities, how-to sheets, small-group lessons, one-on-one facilitation
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stephensonmused
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: Different seating/standing arrangements. Tapping different learning styles via a variety of techniques.
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embonds970
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: Interactive lectures. Small group discussions, visual aids, break up the DI!
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rownbey
May 2 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 doing DI in a collaborative format like
#googleclassroom
open up Ss to interact w/the DI
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
RTQ2: How have you made direct instruction more engaging? What are the key elements of direct instruction?
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AssignmentHelpN
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
#WCPSMDLead
#ctedu
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#Teach2Teach
#Ohio_MLA
9 Points Professors Look for in a Term Paper
https://t.co/TIlvLrRta3
nsulla
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
If Ss are motivated to achieve through a compelling, authentic, open-ended problem, they seek out learning opps.
#LATIC
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In reply to @Kubikhan
Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2) Gotta include guided practice as an element of DI
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, but it has to be good practice, even perfect practice. "Drill" not enough.
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: How have you made direct instruction more engaging? What are the key elements of direct instruction?
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lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: Direct explicit inst is a safe way of controlling the Ss into active engagement.Whereas inquiry based T & L inv taking risks
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: We all know that direct instruction isn't lecturing. Still, why does DI have twice the effect size an inquiry-based T&L?
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: Is feedback a form of direct instruction? I know that has one of the highest effect sizes and is essential
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DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Be mindful of different learning styles. Incorporate movement and opportunities to use manipulative when possible.
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liz_fiore1
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Jumping in late! Liz 6th grade teacher from Long Island.
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bsepe7
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: DI following a mini-lesson structure: Connection, Teach (demo), Active Engagement(guided practice), Link (transfer)
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Welcome Liz!
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In reply to @liz_fiore1
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: We've focused on teacher metacognitive modeling, freq checks for understanding & lots of time for students to work w students
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bsepe7
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Hey Nate, I hope things are going well!
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In reply to @nalang1
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Yes, lots of fun stuff happening in my world for sure! You too!
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In reply to @bsepe7
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Q3 Coming up in 1 minute...
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MsBolandSci
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: Use Kagan strategies and allow for student talk and engagement || Break up the teacher voice
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: How have you made direct instruction more engaging? What are the key elements of direct instruction?
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Welcome Cathy!
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In reply to @MsBolandSci
patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Good point! Not enough just to keep trying - must be aware of what is working and what isn't and tweak strategies when needed
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In reply to @Kubikhan
bsepe7
May 2 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Good to hear! I am still on my way down to Nashville this July! I will keep you posted!
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In reply to @nalang1
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: Ok, let's talk about balance: How can classrooms better balance teacher-led and student-led experiences?
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2: Modeling is an essential form of direct instruction for the writing process - help students see examples and non-examples
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3 The best classrooms I know blend student-led learning in via well established thinking routines on a daily, and weeklly basis
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: Ok, let's talk about balance: How can classrooms better balance teacher-led and student-led experiences?
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MsBolandSci
May 2 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3: I try to talk no more than 10 minutes to my MS Ss, they cannot focus on much more, I also like to use
@KaganOnline
strategies
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: Ok, let's talk about balance: How can classrooms better balance teacher-led and student-led experiences?
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PapaBacher
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 Teachers need to see with their Ss eyes on. Remember what it is like to be a student, and make learning fun for you and Ss
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: Ok, let's talk about balance: How can classrooms better balance teacher-led and student-led experiences?
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2a) Options! We use a "Scaffold for Learning" for planning learning activities.
https://t.co/DtVWdDjqd6
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EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 DI is a pedagogical tool. There should be a specific purpose besides "covering" material
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DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3:Ts need to relinquish control to Ss when appropriate.Allow them to become experts &empower them to navigate their learning
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2b) Kdg Ts create learning videos; Ss use QR codes to access direct instruction.
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https://t.co/Deue6gqqge
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
RTQ3: Ok, let's talk about balance: How can classrooms balance more teacher-led and more student-led experiences?
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embonds970
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: Sometimes teachers get sucked into talk more than they want. Ss attention spans are short, so break up the DI
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theaddisonpate
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
That is awesome!
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In reply to @nsulla
Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Great mantra!
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If only that were true for all educators
@EdTechPeck
EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 DI is a pedagogical tool. There should be a specific purpose besides "covering" material
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3 To achieve balance & success in ped. approaches, we set clear expectations, prepare Ss for success & schedule time for both
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3 Students are also very good at MAKING teachers talk, especially new teachers. Students hold more power than we like to admit
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embonds970
May 2 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: Sometimes teachers get sucked into talk more than they want. Ss attention spans are short, so break up the DI
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
What do you guys think about having a backchannel during DI to keep students more active/engaged?
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In reply to @embonds970
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Q4 Coming up in 1 minute...
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
And maybe even when inappropriate
@DianaMaskell
The most powerful student learning I've seen comes from
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inappropriate quesitons.
DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3:Ts need to relinquish control to Ss when appropriate.Allow them to become experts &empower them to navigate their learning
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3) T benchmark lessons for "triggering awareness" of content to be learned; S-driven learning activities; T-run small-group lssns
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q4: Thinking beyond DI & inquiry, what is the future of pedagogy? What will pedagogy ideally look like in future ready schools?
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
12 Examples Of Gamification In The Classroom
https://t.co/XPuer0sycI
@teachthought
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MsBolandSci
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: Love to use TodaysMeet or Padlet for this!
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
What do you guys think about having a backchannel during DI to keep students more active/engaged?
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In reply to @embonds970
patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Definitely! Empowering Ss has a huge impact on not only on Ss learning but also classroom culture
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In reply to @DianaMaskell
liz_fiore1
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3. Ss need to learn more then just how to listen. They need to be active members in the learning process.
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
I like color-coded schedules that shift thinking, stations labeled for different modes thinking, basically "spaces of permission"
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:22 PM EDT
What are some thinking routines that you have found to be the most effective?
In reply to @Kubikhan
EdTechPeck
May 2 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A4 Tech helps T improve S-centered learning. Playlists that engage Ss in real world challenges through multi discp approach.
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Definitely! I just starting using
https://t.co/BsXzsYfHpo
- Ss report that they like it better than TodaysMeet
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In reply to @MsBolandSci
lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: I think it will be technology based/driven. Ss will be in control of their learning & Ts will serve as facilitators.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q4: Thinking beyond DI & inquiry, what is the future of pedagogy? What will pedagogy ideally look like in future ready schools?
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PapaBacher
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4 The future of pedagogy may change, but the focus will always be on the students. Pedagogy without Student focus is not pedagogy
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: Has to begin with, & use assessment often. Most dangerous phrase in any language is "first I have to teach."
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. 1st, I assess.
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q4: Thinking beyond DI & inquiry, what is the future of pedagogy? What will pedagogy ideally look like in future ready schools?
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
RTQ4 Thinking beyond DI & inquiry, what's the future of pedagogy? What'll lesson design & pedag look like in future ready schools?
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Not too many of those folks here at
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. Glad you're with us!
In reply to @DianaMaskell
nsulla
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A4) Well I hope it looks like the classrooms we design! Ex: 6th grade "look into"
https://t.co/TYCQkLTRkw
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theaddisonpate
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A4: Collaborative to meet unique to the needs of individual Ss by offering individualized opportunities for growth.
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lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Yes, I am & how about you Dr.Nate :-)
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In reply to @nalang1
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: In future ready schools, T and Ss will partner in a fluid exploration of rich tasks, making meaning & connections
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embonds970
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: Technology will be more incorporated, students will have more control over their learning based on technological advances
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stephensonmused
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: Pedagogy continues to shift even more from T centered to S centered. Ts must be innovative or they will be disintermediated.
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DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: I feel that Ss will help a T to create the curriculum, which will change from yr to yr depending on interests and readiness.
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patrickfhansen
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
I agree, but I feel there will be an eventual pendulum swing back 2 DI - some students need scaffolding that tech can't provide
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In reply to @lmhawkhill
Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4 Many are doing that already
@WeberEducation
! I'm holding out for true
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when those rich tasks change school communities!
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: In future ready schools, T and Ss will partner in a fluid exploration of rich tasks, making meaning & connections
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theaddisonpate
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4) Pt. 2 - Content isn't the purpose, growth along the journey through experience is. 21st Pedagogy needs to go back to Dewey.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
See you next week for a special
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!!
nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Thank you everyone for joining us this evening!
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Kubikhan
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Yes, participation and co-creation are very important!
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DianaMaskell
May 2 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4: I feel that Ss will help a T to create the curriculum, which will change from yr to yr depending on interests and readiness.
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nsulla
May 2 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Everything Ss need to learn is on the web; question is whether Ss can cognitively access it. It all comes down to exec function
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In reply to @patrickfhansen, @lmhawkhill
lmhawkhill
May 2 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Thanks
@nalang1
for AMAZING chat! Until next time....
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 2 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Thank you everyone for joining us this evening!
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