#NGSSchat Archive

A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.

Thursday June 21, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #NGSSchat We’re so excited you’re joining us! Please remember to include #NGSSchat in your tweets!
  • 2footgiraffe Jun 21 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from! #NGSSchat
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Emily Telford here! I teach high school Biology & Chemistry in central, IL. Excited for this chat! #ngsschat
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    HI! This is Maggie and I am a grade 1-5 Library Media Specialist, STEM facilitator and PLTW Launch Lead teacher in Woodstock, IL #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Emily-- thanks for joining #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • krademaker Jun 21 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi everyone Kristin from Il here, excited about joining the chat tonight. #NGSSChat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Welcome Maggie! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1
  • 2footgiraffe Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    @krademaker Hey Maggie and Kristin #ngsschat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1, @krademaker
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Rebecca HS Science in GA; mainly Physical Sci, Env, Bio #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Great to see you Kristin! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • 2footgiraffe Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Glad you could join us. #ngsschat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us Rebecca! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    We are going to be chatting about the #NGSS appendices over the next several weeks. Here is a link to the appendices. https://t.co/eMgy5ewCf8 Tonight we will tackle appendices A and B! #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Let's get started-- We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number. #NGSSchat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Dara Kappel from Illinois. 4th grade teacher, next yr. moving into instructional tech. specialist role. First time here. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Dara! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DaraKappel
  • 2footgiraffe Jun 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Hey Dara, Glad you are here. #ngsschat
    In reply to @DaraKappel
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Q1 coming now #ngsschat
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Kathy from CA. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Q1 Appendix A of the #NGSS is focused on conceptual shifts Let’s open our chat by sharing what the biggest difference in your classroom or educational experience has been since embracing the vision of the Framework/NGSS. (the more detail the better!) #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Welcome Kathy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • FredEnde - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Have a great #NGSSchat....will be flying back to NY from MI. Hope to join you all next time!
  • 2footgiraffe Jun 21 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Q1 Appendix A of the #NGSS is focused on conceptual shifts Let’s open our chat by sharing what the biggest difference in your classroom or educational experience has been since embracing the vision of the Framework/NGSS. (the more detail the better!) #NGSSchat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Thank you! Glad to be here tonight. Just finishing a 2 week course in NGSS by @krademaker #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @krademaker
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Thank you! Ready to learn something new. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @2footgiraffe
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I am so excited to be on #ngsschat tonight and hangout with my friend @TdiShelton
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1. Where do I start?!?! Ss can now see the connection between not only different realms of science, but also how science and engineering are dependent on one another. My students' views of engineering have completely changed. #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Welcome Fred! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @FredEnde
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: Using phenomena to anchor science lessons connects what is going on in the classroom to the real world. Using local phenomena, something that students may have experienced, even better. #NGSSchat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I love this! I love that you mention about how the students are making connections with different science ideas! #ngsschat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    We are just starting to focus on the NGSS and are in teh second year of implementing PLTW Launch for engineering and scientific design models. Lots of changes in the future but baby steps at this time.#NGSSchat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A1 - Understanding 3 dimensional teaching and the role of anchoring and investigative phenomena. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    What is an example of an engineering task your Ss have engaged in that they were really excited about? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Do you use phenomena to introduce every topic, or as a way to introduce a whole unit/storyline? I've seen Ts do this both ways #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    We were talking about the power of phenomena today in a workshop-- can you share your location in the US + some of the local phenomena you have used? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    FYI use GSE but they've improved by trying to align w/ NGSS - I came to this chat to learn more! so my experience is a bit diff #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Is there a resources that you use to help you make anchoring phenomenon or lesson level phenomenon that you really love? #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    How have your students responded to PLTW? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    What is an example of a phenomena that really resonated with your students? (and where are you located in the US?) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DaraKappel
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    What is GSE? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I use an anchoring phenomenon for unit, and lesson level phenomena for many topics. Can’t always figure out good phenomena for everything. #ngsschat
    • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:15 PM EDT
      Do you use phenomena to introduce every topic, or as a way to introduce a whole unit/storyline? I've seen Ts do this both ways #NGSSchat
      In reply to @kmgill135
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    @TdiShelton Georgia Standards of Excellence https://t.co/4PxLkQ9Yzu #ngsschat
  • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Hi #ngsschat! It's been awhile since I've joined in. Kara, HS Chem/Bio in NYC.
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    I did this engineering challenge last year with my 9th grade bio students for HS-LS2-7. They designed insect traps to monitor an invasive species problem in IL. Here's the website for it #ngsschat --->https://t.co/C1dADGWBO0
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    I am excited that my friend + co-presenter in a workshop today in KY is going to co-moderate with me. Thanks @MrsJHolman #NGSSchat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Just learned about it in our 2 week class thats ending tomorrow, but loved the tanker car imploding used in a 5th grade lesson. Bensenville, Illinois. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Welcome Kara! Great to see you! Where do you teach in NYC? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @karalu79
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    It definitely takes time to fully implement #NGSS, but it's worth it! Your students are worth it! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1
  • hhereau Jun 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A1: So many shifts! One is my Ss' willingness to participate in discussions and answer questions in ALL of their classes. Overheard so many times this year: "he/she has really come out of their shell - I could never get them to participate last year! #ngsschat
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Students are excited to do PBL and look forward to coming to the STEAM lab each week.#NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A1. shift to phenomenon and the challenges of the 3D w/o our students having any previous k-8 implementation #ngsschat
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Have you checked out this site? Searchable phenomena https://t.co/GHeJ9TjQ4U #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    That is so awesome-- I can't wait to look at that. Where do you get your inspiration for engineering design ideas? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Independent School in Lower Manhattan. LREI. :) #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    @TdiShelton we use a lot of 3D and NGSS resources at PLC's for our Georgia Standards #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Q2 Shift3 =science concepts in #NGSS build coherently from K-12 (“progressions...assume that previous material has been learned by the student”) What are challenges that result from this (in this transition period of this new vision) + how do you mitigate this challenge?#ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    I would love to see some student work as a result of working with that phenomenon! How do you think the experience went? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DaraKappel
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    #ngsschat I notice phenomena everywhere! I think I have just become aware that everything in nature is a possible phenomenon.
    In reply to @MrsJHolman
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    I try to pull problems from my students' community. Ex: water pollution from runoff, sustainability, etc and go from there. I always use the same formula to create the challenges that has worked for me so far #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and your "why" behind your passion for #NGSS #ngsschat
    In reply to @emsandy, @olsonLRC1
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Agreed-- I felt like I was going slow, but the pay-offs were huge once we got going. I just had to adjust to how the time was spent i the classroom-- well worth it! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy, @olsonLRC1
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    RT @emsandy @kmgill135 Have you checked out this site? Searchable phenomena https://t.co/Z9cVE71HJP #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy, @kmgill135
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Teachers worked with this phenomenon during our science class to help give us a better understanding of how we can incorporate others into our own lessons. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I absolutely love this! Powerful stuff-- #NGSS shifts! #NGSSchat https://t.co/eMgy5ewCf8
    • hhereau Jun 21 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      A1: So many shifts! One is my Ss' willingness to participate in discussions and answer questions in ALL of their classes. Overheard so many times this year: "he/she has really come out of their shell - I could never get them to participate last year! #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    I feel the exact same way. I am always walking around thinking how the things we interact with on a daily basis hold so many questions as to "how" and "why" they function the way that they do. I know if I am asking Qs my Ss will as well! #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2. @mrsjholman one of my main concerns. Need the support of the Admin/schedule to have TIME to incorporate 3D learning! #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Student excitement, agency, partnership... the community of practice created in an #NGSS classroom-- It all changes EVERYTHING about learning :) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    What other ways has shifting your teaching impacted the culture of your classroom for your students and for you that has enriched those students that you teach? #ngsschat
    In reply to @hhereau
  • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A2: Ss don't always have the experiences that we want to build from, so my job is to find a way to scaffold so that every S has a place to join in and build understanding from. #ngsschat
  • liorschenk Jun 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    #NGSSchat hello from Pittsburgh PA! Though the NGSS are not formally approved here, there is a growing push for learning by doing... much aligned with the science and engineering practices of the NGSS. Excited to lead the way for quality science education locally and broadly. ✊
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I love that you can see that students are excited to learn and anticipate being in your class. I am sure that is exciting for you and them! #ngsschat
    In reply to @olsonLRC1, @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I have not-- thanks so much for sharing. We can check that out in our workshop tomorrow (we talked instructionally productive phenomena today) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy, @kmgill135
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    That's so great! We have been working in the Bronx and it has been amazing! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @karalu79
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    @karalu79 Yes, scaffolding is key. Setting the expectation of rigor and critical thinking from the START too #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    That's awesome. My good friend @zoe_evans is in GA! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach, @zoe_evans
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Consider the quote below. What resonates with you about this quote? How has this vision begun to take shape in your classroom or educational context? #NGSSchat
  • hhereau Jun 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    #ngsschat Max deleted my intro TWICE. Hi I'm Holly Hereau Bio and Env Sci teacher from Redford MI near Detroit. So excited to see you all! Might look like a #lurker but I'm writing 3x the tweets 😅#LateIntro
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Sorry-- Question 3 here! #NGSSchat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      Consider the quote below. What resonates with you about this quote? How has this vision begun to take shape in your classroom or educational context? #NGSSchat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Question 3 #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    This is so great! "changed the way you look at the world!" #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135, @MrsJHolman
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    It is! I have a science background and am always thinking "What if?" I have experienced that this year with our Ss. They have been able to take the learning out the classroom and into their little worlds. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman, @TdiShelton
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    I love that you have a consistent protocol that is working-- it is great when you can find a system that works for the students in YOUR room. (beauty of the #NGSS vision-- all students) #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A2. We have to make a lot of assumptions about what was learned from previous science courses. This is especially difficult for me because I teach at a lab school where my 9th grade students come from about 20 different schools! Not everyone is on the #NGSS train yet #ngsschat
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A2: My students do not always have the content background, but they also do not have a background in what it means to do the SEP. Requires much scaffolding for them to get up to speed on asking questions, designing investigations, making models, developing arguments #NGSSChat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A3 The last sentence - helping Ss understand the core ideas through SEP's. Hands on learning seems to be the way Ss and Ts learn best. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Those mechanism questions are the gas that gets the engine going for sure! #NGSSchat
    • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      I feel the exact same way. I am always walking around thinking how the things we interact with on a daily basis hold so many questions as to "how" and "why" they function the way that they do. I know if I am asking Qs my Ss will as well! #ngsschat
      In reply to @kmgill135
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    This is a great example of ensuring that our classrooms provide equitable instruction for our Ss. It is what we mean when we say all students all standards #ngsschat
    • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      A2: Ss don't always have the experiences that we want to build from, so my job is to find a way to scaffold so that every S has a place to join in and build understanding from. #ngsschat
  • liorschenk Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    #NGSSchat A1: SEPs were the most significant aspect for me. When Ss are granted agency to explore and argue upon problems just as a scientist would, their learning becomes that much more impactful. (that means REAL inquiry btw! NOT cookbook labs as in my childhood!)
  • kmgill135 Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Gotta go. Thanks for the chat tonight. #NGSSChat
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    @kmgill135 A2. - exactly, classes need to be about 1.5 times longer so we can focus on really getting these 3D thoughts flowing #ngsschat
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A3: As we strive for deeper understanding the Ss are making those connections to real world experiences and even other phenomena.#NGSSchat
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    How have you achieved this in the past? What are the best methods you use to scaffold learning in your classroom? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @karalu79
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Absolutely-- have you received support? How have you approached the ask? #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach, @MrsJHolman
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    This is so important in an #NGSS classroom! What are ways you provide scaffolding to students to think and communicate using the 3 dimensions? #NGSSchat
    • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      A2: Ss don't always have the experiences that we want to build from, so my job is to find a way to scaffold so that every S has a place to join in and build understanding from. #ngsschat
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    I totally agree! One hour a week is not enough to get full thoughts flowing! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach, @kmgill135
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    @liorschenk A1 - SEP is what really draws me to NGSS! Want my students to see the reality of inquiry and critical thinking #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    What is a way that you communicate your expectations to your Ss? Do your Ss have voice in what the classroom expectations for learning will be like? #ngsschat
    In reply to @Alt_Teach, @karalu79
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Thanks Lior! Thanks so much for joining us! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @liorschenk
  • NGSSchat - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    THE TWEET REMINDERS THAT GO OUT BEFORE THE CHAT DO NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING PLEASE SIGNUP FOR A "REMIND" TO GET REMINDERS ON THE DAY OF #NGSSCHAT https://t.co/BH80wnEMoM
  • hhereau Jun 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A2: at the HS level there were always teachers that complained "how are we supposed to teach them X when they didn't learn Y yet" Progressions make it easier for teachers to meet students where they are to build knowledge from there. Less room for the complaining 😜 #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    This is so great-- the relevance + authenticity narrative here really embraces the #NGSS shifts! #NGSSchat
    • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      It is! I have a science background and am always thinking "What if?" I have experienced that this year with our Ss. They have been able to take the learning out the classroom and into their little worlds. #NGSSchat
      In reply to @MrsJHolman, @TdiShelton
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A3. When we use the SEPs and DCIs consistently from K-12, Ss stop seeing science as just a collection of facts and start viewing science as a way of THINKING. They can picture themselves doing science and being scientists, increasing the #STEM profession pipeline #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Q4 This venn diagram shows how #NGSS #CCSS overlap in meaningful ways. How does this look in your classroom? https://t.co/UgVTxME43H #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Agreed-- the prior learning piece is challenging as we transition to the new vision #NGSSchat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • Ted_NSTA Jun 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Ted Willard, NSTA's standards geek, arriving late for #NGSSchat. Sorry folks. What'd I miss?
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    This has really been a focus on our PL as well-- a really powerful shift-- elevating the science and engineering practices in the classroom. #NGSSchat
    • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:33 PM EDT
      A3 The last sentence - helping Ss understand the core ideas through SEP's. Hands on learning seems to be the way Ss and Ts learn best. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining us Kathy! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4. love this graphic - totally PL worthy, we are all in it 2gether! Physical Sci lands in that purple zone a lot #ngsschat
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4. You can sneak #CCSS into engineering design challenges or data interpretation. We started include statistics into our 9th grade bio curriculum when when Ss write CERs. Ex: Using Chi-squared analysis for a genetics lab #ngsschat
  • Ted_NSTA Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4: I love how teachers (particular elementary teachers) are drawn to that diagram. I think there must be more to it than the pretty colors I used. (I forget how many layers there were in the powerpoint to make it look right. #ngsschat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I see what you are saying. When my kids struggle with understanding the SEP elements I am targeting then I look at some of the previous elements in different grade-bans for that SEP. The way my students are still using the SEPs to engage in the science ideas! #ngsschat
    In reply to @kmgill135
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4 - Unfortunately, missing the science, focused mostly on ELA. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Hey everyone josh from MI joining really late blame it on the summer slide 😀 #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Thanks so much for joining us Ted! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A4. We also do a lot of ELA overlap in ENV with our ethical and anthropogenic topics #ngsschat
  • poulingail Jun 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    #NGSSchat Thank you for the follow!
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A4 I feel like I’m strong in the science/ELA overlap but math is still out there in my room #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Hi Josh! SO great to see you! #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jhubb546
  • Ted_NSTA Jun 21 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    I think when we look at connections between Science, Math, and ELA, it's important to note whether we are just using the ideas and practices from one discipline during the teaching and learning of another discipline, or there is learning of both disciplines going on. #ngsschat
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A4: So far, we have been able to integrate science/ELA fairly well with minimal math depending on the problem. #NGSSchat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Agreed-- I still struggle there too. I did the bee colony scimath task w/ @MrsJHolman mentoring though & it was great. The collab gave me the confidence! https://t.co/vViAsySIsh #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jhubb546, @MrsJHolman
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    I just want you to know that I seriously fan-girling over the fact that you are the author of this diagram that I use to explain the interconnectedness of the disciplines to many of my colleagues! Thanks for that! #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    We start with phenomena (or lab experience). Ss work in groups, I give them time to think on own, talk in small groups, then share in large group. I strategically pick who shares first, so that understanding builds as Ss share. I expect them to ask ?s of each other #ngsschat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Q5: Several rounds of review were built into the development of the #NGSS +over 10,000 comments were received. Here is a list of themes about the initial feedback. What is this list might be considered a concern today + why? #NGSSchat
  • 8blah8blah8 Jun 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman, @Ted_NSTA
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Hadn’t thought of this in this way before. Important distinction. I think this requires more verbalizing what we are doing and why which should lead to a more integrated approach #ngsschat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    lol, me too! #celebrity #ngsschat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman, @Ted_NSTA
  • liorschenk Jun 21 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    #NGSSchat A3: I believe intentional practices are key. It can be easy to involve Ss in projects, for example, that bridge art making and the cell - - but if they don't explicitly reflect upon their models and the ideas they're investigating, then their learning is dampened.
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    RIGHT! Now, so many Ss are empowered with this new shift and they can be in the driver's seat in their classrooms! #ngsschat
    In reply to @hhereau
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Q5 Was there a pic or a link? #ngsschat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman
  • 8blah8blah8 Jun 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    The ELA + Math also : use patterns. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman, @Ted_NSTA
  • Ted_NSTA Jun 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    The maps I am making of the three dimensions should help with that. Here are maps of Developing and Using Models Constructing Explanations and Designing Solutions #ngsschat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman, @kmgill135
  • emsandy Jun 21 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    I would like to share this resource with your all that I stumbled upon today...it's a collection of different models for HS life science that allow Ss to hypothesize, ask questions, collect data, analyze, etc. Excellent for #NGSS #NGSSchat https://t.co/4d9f5qvrfo
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Very important to have those mentors out there to help us get better at our craft #ngsschat
    In reply to @TdiShelton, @MrsJHolman
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Thanks for the share! #ngsschat
    In reply to @emsandy
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Q5 Several rounds of review were built into the development of the #NGSS +over 10,000 comments were received. Here is a list of themes about the initial feedback. What is this list might be considered a concern today + why? #NGSSchat
  • Ted_NSTA Jun 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    The diagram itself was originally developed by Tina Chuek at Stanford. I just made a pretty version of it. (I have a thing for making pretty diagrams) #ngsschat
    In reply to @MrsJHolman
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    I just retweeted the Q with the pic-- sorry. It is right below this :) #NGSSchat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Here is the list for Q5 #ngsschat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
      Q5 Several rounds of review were built into the development of the #NGSS +over 10,000 comments were received. Here is a list of themes about the initial feedback. What is this list might be considered a concern today + why? #NGSSchat
  • 8blah8blah8 Jun 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    ElemEd🍎could add a LOT more ▫️orange ▫️grey ▫️green ▫️purple #NGSSchat
    In reply to @Ted_NSTA
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A5 - I would think support is the biggest concern. It seems like many districts still are not implementing NGSS or have an understanding of what it looks like in the classroom. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @TdiShelton
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A5 I think a big issue today deals with materials both how to find ones and then how to get them #ngsschat
  • karalu79 Jun 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A5: The support is still a concern. There are a LOT of districts that expect these to be the "same old" standards and for us to treat them the same ways we used to. NGSS is not a checklist, but I still hear from a lot of Ts/districts that treat it that way. #ngsschat
  • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Would love materials for the elementary level to make the transition better. #NGSSchat
    In reply to @jhubb546
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    What do you see as your biggest need (in support) 1) materials 2) PD 3) Time to collaborate #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DaraKappel
  • olsonLRC1 Jun 21 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A5: I feel support for implementing the standards is our biggest obstacle. This includes not only getting the understanding of what is expected but also the time and funds to support the investigations.#NGSSchat
  • krademaker Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    I agree, and some districts think they are 'doing' NGSS because they don't know what they don't know. #NGSSChat
    • DaraKappel Jun 21 @ 9:56 PM EDT
      A5 - I would think support is the biggest concern. It seems like many districts still are not implementing NGSS or have an understanding of what it looks like in the classroom. #NGSSchat
      In reply to @TdiShelton
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Q6: Changes were made based on feedback to the public drafts. We continue to iterate our approaches to implementation today based on new understandings & experience. What suggestions can you offer for the concerns expressed in Q5? #NGSSchat
  • Alt_Teach Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A5 - inconsistency (not all district implement, I get HS kids without the foundation who need extra time to be successful) #ngsschat
  • hhereau Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A5: I love how the 1st two bullets "compliment" each other! Talking to teachers who haven't made the shift yet many of these concerns still exist. I make it my job to convince people to try it. I share my experiences and I can't imagine ever going back #NGSScheerleader #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    @Alt_Teach e are some examples of high quality #NGSS design https://t.co/jqQi2KH4bz #NGSSchat
    In reply to @DaraKappel, @jhubb546, @Alt_Teach
  • jhubb546 Jun 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A5 also fascinating that a concern was too much material. I like there is “less” because it creates time needed for Ss to dive deeply into learning #ngsschat
  • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Question to close our chat! #NGSSchat
    • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:58 PM EDT
      Q6: Changes were made based on feedback to the public drafts. We continue to iterate our approaches to implementation today based on new understandings & experience. What suggestions can you offer for the concerns expressed in Q5? #NGSSchat
  • MrsJHolman Jun 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    I love how you have captured that. How can we support Ts in other districts so they can learn and self-evaluate what they know and don't know? #NGSSChat
    In reply to @krademaker
  • 8blah8blah8 Jun 21 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Lack of guidance for cross cutting concepts — ElemEd🍎Ts aren’t contributing. #NGSSchat
    • TdiShelton - Moderator Jun 21 @ 9:54 PM EDT
      Q5 Several rounds of review were built into the development of the #NGSS +over 10,000 comments were received. Here is a list of themes about the initial feedback. What is this list might be considered a concern today + why? #NGSSchat