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Tuesday March 1, 2016
10:00 PM EST
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Welcome to ! Introduce yourself, your location and role. This week’s topic: Direct Instruction. https://t.co/IjE68RI2wX
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Happy to take the reigns tonight. Here to ask some simple ?’s because they are often the hardest to answer.
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Hello, Tribe! I’m your Roland, a Tech Coordinator from Sacramento. I’ll be your host tonight. https://t.co/NKvhR1hRl4
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Stacy O'Brien - Instructional Coach at Decatur Middle School in Indianapolis, IN
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Tom Covington Tech Tosa east LA,
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Judy Blakeney, Instructional Coach, Capo Unified, Love my peeps
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Pleasure to have you aboard tonight, Tom.
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Hi there, Sally from the PD Dept at Placer County Office of Education.
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Susan Stewart in Fresno, ready for some learning!
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Hello Dan from looking forward to an chat
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SUSAN! So great to finally meet face to face on Saturday!
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A1: Explicit teaching using lectures and demonstrations. Many focused on one.
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A1: Direct instuction is when the teacher is the vessel that deliver the content.
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A1: The sage on the stage, upfront conducting.
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Jenn V SoCal Math Coach. Watching Super Tuesday results and checking out
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A1 teachers are the central focus leading the content/skill learning - direct flow of info from T to Ss
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with this def, could students provide direct instruction too? Interesting...
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A1: When you have a concept to explicitly give instruction on. Teacher to class or small group.
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A1: Direct instruction is when the teacher is the leader of instruction in a whole-class teaching model.
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Yes! Reminds me of that saying "Move from sage on the stage to guide on the side"
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Sage on stage or guide on side? Is one better than another, or are both a necessity? https://t.co/VKdea3FNAh
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A1: The sage on the stage, upfront conducting.
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A1: Direct instruction is teacher-led where the teacher is the main distributor of information
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good point I think of it as the teacher is directly instructing as the "expert"
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. Teacher pours knowledge into the student, and empty vessel. Teacher knows, Student grows https://t.co/lepaOVQ061
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A1: Direct instuction is when the teacher is the vessel that deliver the content.
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Can a teacher ever really deliver something to ALL students at once?
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"direct flow of info" reminds me of origin of DI- when storytellers held ALL the info and needed to deliver it
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Direct instruction… not just for teachers anymore!
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. OK...My statement has a bit of tongue in cheek to it...all students may not be learning https://t.co/LAh4ugM4EW
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Can a teacher ever really deliver something to ALL students at once?
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Many immediately envision whole class. Small group direct instruction is important, too.
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in not saying how effective it was though!
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How about small group direct instruction? Is one better than another?
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A1: In direct instruction, content is delivered directly and explicitly. One gives knowledge to another.
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Can students deliver direct instruction?
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curious on your perspective as our PBL expert on what role this should play in lesson design
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. in small groups, don't Ss learn from each other? Ts can lead small groups and indiv. Ss https://t.co/sskrOo8Jgb
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Many immediately envision whole class. Small group direct instruction is important, too.
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A balance of both. Ts can constantly switch modes as needed. Flexibility is key.
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My opinion is that direct instruction is when the Tr leads. I don't think anyway is better. It's how you use it.
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It has such strong connotations. Worth reflecting on from time to time.
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If students are serving in the "teacher role" they can deliver direction instruction..imo
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Are students blank slates? Or slabs of clay with a culture already hiding inside?
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. direct instruct has a place at the table, but so does discovery, inquiry, collaboration https://t.co/JrYKrhK0GU
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curious on your perspective as our PBL expert on what role this should play in lesson design
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in my opinion there should be balance, If it were on a scale I would say guide on side to be heavier
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A2: Use DI to launch a thought process, synthesize info or to deliver content that might not be easily reached through inquiry
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Sculpture, not culture. Lol
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The old one-room school house model. Handing down of knowledge.
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A2: When giving instructions, when showing examples, before Ss launch into discovery, to set up a scenario, etc...
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Ah yes, we do have that degree which suddenly makes us the carriers of all expertise.
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A2: I haven't taught a full lecture in 4 yrs but sometimes I need a quick 5 min direct instruction lesson to teach kids
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A2: Direct/otherwise, Ts have knowledge to share. HOW is the big ? Direct should be focused in doses https://t.co/mbq95yNDh7
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Sorry...late to the party. Writing sub plans. Daughter has a snow day. Tonya, MS tech teacher, Michigan!
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that's kind of the way I think of it & it differentiates from other forms
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A2: anything completely new with no background.
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A2: Use DI to model...and never for longer than the minutes of their age.
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How would you know if learning took place?
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Is that DI, though? Or have we evolved into a different model/approach?
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. I am a constructivist: Ss build, Ts scaffold and support; Ss discover, Ts direct https://t.co/vx6GYlNs6s
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Are students blank slates? Or slabs of clay with a culture already hiding inside?
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I think of it that way too for sure.
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A2: I use it for certain skills in technology, but not as often as years ago!
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Well put. No reason to have one method to rule them all, but there is good DI and poor DI.
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exactly! fast modeling to get things going. Release to Ss as quickly as is reasonable
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Is peer to peer learning direct instruction, though?
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I know some admins who think DI is anytime teacher is talking.
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Hi Aprill! And I agree. At that point, it’s evolved into something different.
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I usually associate DI with whole group, as "small group" often lends itself to more interaction
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So we can dispel the idea that you have to be the expert for DI? Learners can give DI?
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. does DI have to come in full-meal size or can it be bite size? https://t.co/7oHeUNrysR
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Is that DI, though? Or have we evolved into a different model/approach?
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it would help if you are focusing on something like reducing teacher talk time and raising Ss talk
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Analysis is often the missing link. But what data? I struggle with finding meaningful data.
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Depends on how you define peer-to-peer learning. How is the learning occurring? Learning may not be through DI.
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Before this chat, I’d have said yes. Now… I’m rethinking my thinking.
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for sure! to follow data like that you need a good sample of time
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. Think of data when designing lesson. Feedback: need 2 know what works Goals drive data https://t.co/aeYqKscwBX
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Analysis is often the missing link. But what data? I struggle with finding meaningful data.
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True. So how do we determine learning, let alone where it occurred?
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agreed DI has a place but become a bad word from when it's overused. Honestly,extremists of anything are scary
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Reverse engineer to discover your needs! Brilliant!
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A3: I rarely prefer direct instruction. I believe it doesn't lend itself to quality interaction and discovery for engagement
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A3: For my class, they can complete and/or apply the skill that I introduced. Authentic Assessment https://t.co/MXKaQjkS0p
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I like that minutes of age trick!
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A3: Grappling with content delivered. Writing, short discussions, modeling. Still engaging in learning
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A3: But for direct instruction to be worthwhile I feel there must be interaction and constant feedback given during instruction
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A3 Fascinating/Performer T. Not me. T creates a lesson that relates to Ss meets them where they are https://t.co/RyzFSoqVwX
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Lay the ground work with direct instruction, Then step back. I like that a lot.
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A3 engagement almost entrancement! Asking questions, pumped & ready to take the learning on https://t.co/EbTg4Gpu2K
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I find myself talking less and less in classrooms, yet I can’t shake that first 5 min talk.
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A2:Grading essays now & thinking these wouldn't be as great w/o DI. Students practiced while I modeled.
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A3: , taking notes, asking questions, and playing
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In science I often let a video clip, gif, reading or image of a discrepant event open the show
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. visual engagement and meeting students where they are is key https://t.co/buDDNeO3Qi
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In science I often let a video clip, gif, reading or image of a discrepant event open the show
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of course it is cheating when class involves lighting things on fire/blowing them up
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Agreed! Give and take, while adjusting instruction. Makes a lot of sense!
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Learning CAN be measured through evidence of meeting the intended objective. There can be several sub-objs, too
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But that’s ok! It has a purpose. I think.
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A4: We need to step away from our own comfort zone as teachers and get away from quietness in the classroom.
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How do you truly measure a demonstration of learning? Isn’t it binary? Yes or no?
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There’s the stuff! Howdy, Aron!
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A4: short/concentrated bursts of knowledge 2 spark imagination and Ignite inquiry, a spark they turn 2 a flame w/ investigation
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Nice work capturing examples, telling your story.
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. Sometimes it is so I can get a feel for how they are each day and a personal connection.
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My entire class is flipped so I walk around my class getting examples of everything they do. I love it.
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That *WAS* sarcasm, for the record. You are talented one, Ari.
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. I have almost completely switched to flipped/blended instruction for that very reason!
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So then are there essays reflections of their skills, or a hybrid of yours and theirs? Which is ok, BTW. Just asking.
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I'd never go back anymore to "regular" teaching. It opens up a world of possibility.
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Flipped/blended instruction does stop learning when Ts is absent OR when Ss are absent.
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As I see a variety of responses for learning and engagement, thinking we (all educators) could benefit from a shared defn.
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A5: I don't :) I assess students by walking around to each one multiple times a period having conversations with them.
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I learned that working for the YMCA.
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A5: Students respond (could be tech or old fash) and teachers next steps are based on the average needs of the group.
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. Allows me time with my IEP, 504 and ESL students too!
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Funny! Just has a meeting today to plan a roll-out for flipped sub plans! The learning will never stop!
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We cannot forget the power of a teacher's words. DI can give kids a connection no video or program can. We are still important!
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Gotcha. Funny how no skills can ever be taught in isolation. To take a math test, go gotta read.
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. I even put links to the docs I upload into Google Classroom into my sub plans! Works like a charm!
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That’s how I leave campus. Does that count?
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Oh, I’ll be there fo’ sho’
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agreed- a video would certainly struggle to read the room. ;)
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A5: Most of my assignments are project-based. The produce something for me!
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30 of the same essay, over and over.
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So good DI leaves them with more questions than answers? Never thought about it that way before.
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As I’m trying to keep up with you intelligent folks, my heart is melting with all the GIFs showing up. https://t.co/3u69G7qu2h
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A5: Through Ss responses and interactions...however I'm not so sure how I Feel about the DI model.
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Best meme of the night goes to you, Aprill!
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Been there. Done that. And it’s all our own fault. Good for you for breaking the cycle.
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Best. GIF. Ever. Now if a teacher can get the students to swoon like that with DI then we're onto something!
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A6: seeing as it is mostly intro strategy, YouTube, vine, media clips make gr8 openers. Then u flip it- have them make 1 @ end
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A6 flickr, google image search set to animated, youtube, something for a back channel (ex classroom replys)
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I’d argue that looking closely is the most powerful on that list.
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A6: My LAN School. I can window in to every student's computer. They can see my screen and try the new skill I am introducing
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A6-surprised no one said GIFS!
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Happy to have you, Karen!
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A6 also something for checking for understanding quickly - google forms are my general go to
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It’s worth reflecting on practices, no matter how common place.
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I eluded to it with image search set to animated, but yeh GIFs!!!
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Your secret’s safe with me. And Twitter.
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thats the one, poll everywhere is my alt to gForm
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I completely agree with you on this one.
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A6 I like to make a gForm that parallels the DI & use data validation to prevent moving on OR provide a challenge
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You all rock! Thanks for chiming in and being the best PLN ever!
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. starting to use quite a bit for ease on phone https://t.co/fG3FMMHUq2
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thats the one, poll everywhere is my alt to gForm
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A6: I also use Padlet to get things started with the DI model but I also take a spin on it.
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A6: I have been tinkering with lately. Pretty neat stuff!
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. in accord to that is the engage start but is that DI https://t.co/vi79vpi9CE
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A6: I also use Padlet to get things started with the DI model but I also take a spin on it.
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