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Tuesday October 4, 2016
Welcome everyone to tonight's Chat! Please take a moment to introduce yourself and your hometown!
Hi! I'm Andrew, educator and builder from Chicago, love hearing learning about others' classrooms. Excited to be here!
Hi - Laura here, also from Chicago, really excited to see how teachers are coaching students around feedback!
Will you be joining us this evening to discuss feedback and coaching students to receive it?
You're also from Chicago, right? Would you like to weigh in tonight on the topic of feedback and being coached?
Love to hear your opinions on giving and receiving feedback and how to coach students through this process!
You've had lots of experience providing students with feedback. It can be tough to be on the receiving end, eh?
Hi! I'm Pamela here from San Diego, here to learn what teacher are doing with students in the classroom
Join us in our discussion of providing students with feedback and teaching them to be coachable!
Join this chat for one of my classe assignments
Hi Pamela - welcome - glad to have you. Our first question will be in just a few moments!
Sounds like a really interesting assignment for finding professional development resources!
Doug from West Michigan checking in. Hi all!
Welcome Doug - glad to have you! Can't wait to hear how you're helping your students be coachable!
Welcome all - tonight's topic: To Get More Feedback, Act More Coachable (Questions and context here: https://t.co/NRWgpBfMDB )
Q1: How do you solicit feedback? How do you teach and coach your students to?
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A1: I think as adults we often email things or put them in a mailbox when we are asking for feedback rather than face-to-face
Joined the for their discussion of providing students with feedback and teaching them to be coachable! from 3pm-4pm
A1: But our students often have to ask us in the classroom for feedback on assignments and projects. That can be tough!
A1: I just hung a sign outside my classroom door with what I am seeking feedback on and a QR code to deliver it
A1: To help students, I often had to model, by directly asking them for feedback on my teaching. That broke the barrier.
A1:try to provide 1:1 feedback as much as I can but have done whole class of feedback as well. But 1:1 preferred.
Wow - that's an awesome and engaging way to get anyone passing by to chime in! I like that idea!
I bet your students really value that opportunity to hear something privately delivered... especially if critical!
I have seen teacher that I work with require students to give once comment to other students after grading each others work
I think asking for feedback is a great skill and requires humility & perseverance - putting yourself out there and persisting
Asking for feedback can show you care but has to be genuine. Important to express then Ss more willing to get feedback.
Do they have any specifications? Like, they have to include praise or they have to address something specific?
A1. Teacher requiring students to give positive feed back to other students when peer grading
And how do you get students to ask for feedback from others? Is that a modeled lesson you demonstrate?
Do you have your students do the same thing? Create a QR code of their work and host a feedback gallery walk?
But if we "require" students to give positive feedback, are we preparing them for the real world?
It can be anything encouraging, but nothing negative are usually the rules
Part of the issue of asking for feedback is that we acknowledge that someone might not appreciate our hard work.
That's a good segue to our 2nd question...
Q2: How do you express your gratitude for feedback? How do you coach your students to do this?
No, and thats the problem I am seeing with the movement in the childs feelings must always be protected
I hear you on that one! Definitely a skill to see the good in others, but equally important to hear critiques
I think teachers and students can always express their gratitude for feedback by saying thank you and following it
mostly a think pair share atmosphere towards getting peer feedback. Works well.
A2: I think a quick and genuine "thank you" is enough to express it. But teaching students to say it can feel forced.
A2 Or by at least listening to what is said
Do you add another piece to it? Think-Pair-Share-Thanks?
A2: simply thanking them if Ss or asking for more clarification if say Admin.
And acknowledging that the feedback was given! "I hear you, but I won't be able to..." or "Thanks - great idea!"
Is there a certain age where having students say "thanks for the feedback" is easier or harder? Primary/ Middle/ High School?
Leading up to our 3rd question tonight...
Q3: Do you teach your students that no one is perfect? How do you intervene when feedback is not “nice?”
A2 if I had to guess I would say probably middle school or high school My teen nieces and nephews are to get to say thank you
A3: Yes - it's essential to show that everyone makes mistakes. (Especially for those rare moments when I make one teaching!)
love thank you! Great idea for classkick screens b/t Ss.
A3: But more than that - everyone IMPROVES from feedback. Even professionals are constantly getting feedback from coaches!
A3: When hearing negative or mean feedback, I interupt the students and tell them that is not nice and explain
Do you have the students rephrase the feedback or determine what the root mistake was that they were correcting?
It depends on the feedback and what was said. Sometimes both
I think it strikes that perfect balance between not being too "soft" but understanding that critical feedback means specific
So far, we've heard great ideas like asking for feedback in the form of QR codes and providing 1:1 feedback to students...
Next question coming up in a minute...
Q4: How do you work through being defensive?Do you have tips for working with students that have a hard time taking feedback?
Love to hear your thoughts in this second half of our https://t.co/RfoVvuN9gx
Q4: How do you work through being defensive?Do you have tips for working with students that have a hard time taking feedback?
A4: I think we have a tough time hearing that someone else doesn't like what we've created. It has to be about a bigger goal.
A4: As feedback receivers, we have to realize that we're trying to get better - smarter - understand a certain concept more.
A4: And hearing feedback from others is going to help us get closer to that understanding. So, it's necessary to seek it out!
Q4: Do you have tips for working with students that have a hard time taking feedback?
A4: It's hard to hear feedback at times, my advice would be look at as something to improve upon
Sure - and perhaps show students that people only go from "good to great" through some very bumpy roads.
What do you think? Q4: How do you and your students work through being defensive?
I think it's important to role play in the younger grades (when students are so malleable) and showcase hearing feedback
And also liken the experience to other people that the students might not suspect are also getting feedback...
Like the President, or a famous basketball player, or an opera singer... Show them that everyone hears things to get better!
Care to weigh in? Q4: Do you have tips for working with students that have a hard time taking feedback?
Love to hear your thoughts on tonight's topic: Providing and Receiving Feedback and Acting More Coachable
Next question coming up soon!
Q5: Do you act on all feedback? How do you help students sort out what they should act on and what is their own choice?
Love to hear your thoughts on tonight's topic of giving and receiving feedback! https://t.co/3u7FJ2xtRr
Q5: Do you act on all feedback? How do you help students sort out what they should act on and what is their own choice?
A5: When I was teaching, I think I tried to act on as much feedback as possible, which is really hard when it conflicts!
A5: I'd hear my principal say one thing, my students say another... And it would leave me really confused with what to do!
A5 Not all feedback needs to be acted on, my advice would be to think about it.
A5: It's only been in the last few months that I've really realized: feedback is just someone else's opinion!
Great advice - how do you translate that for your students? Can they understand "think about it first" ?
How do you have these kinds of conversations with your high school students? https://t.co/EoKWebWqUE
A5 Not all feedback needs to be acted on, my advice would be to think about it.
We'd love to hear what you think about Q5: How do you help students sort out what feedback they should act on?
Any good advice? Q5: How do you help students sort out what feedback they should act on?
A5 To pause and listen and try to think what is being said
Does that apply to the feedback they receive from you? Are they allowed to second-guess teacher-provided ideas?
Before we get to our last question, let's recap on the evening:
Yes, and from anyone who is giving them feedback. Teachers aren't always right gets them to think for themselves
We've seen: teachers requiring students to give comments to other students and asking for feedback has to be genuine.
And we've seen: Teachers requiring students to give positive feedback and expressing gratitude by following the feedback
Last question for the evening...
Q6: Re: feedback Do you try to put yourself in someone else’s shoes? How do you encourage students to see from another’s POV?
A5: Such a good Q! All about getting Ss to focus on the big goal, then they make the little decisions necessary to get there
A6: I think a great way to start this lesson with students is through literature. Showing them to think like a character.
A6: As students start to understand seeing something through another's eyes, then have them re-examine their own moments
A6: We did this as high school students by rewriting scenes from different POVs quite often. Great writing task and empathy!
Any final thoughts for tonight? How do you encourage students to see from another’s POV?
Any words of wisdom? How do you encourage students to see from another’s POV?
Love to hear what you think about our final question: How do you encourage students to see from another’s POV?
I do believe good practice would be to put yourself in someone else shows. I would ask the student how would you feel?
And how do you promote students asking that of each other?
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