#meded Archive

All ideas and resources tweeted alongside #meded are curated and collected here.

Thursday August 23, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the Medical Education chat (US) I am your moderator for the next hour, @alliance4clined #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    The topic & questions will be announced in a moment…for now, please introduce yourselves #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Gary here in North Carolina! #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    I've emerged triumphant after two weeks of back-to-back back-to-school bugs and I'm ready for #meded chat!
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    If you are tuning in to the #meded chat, remember to use the #meded hashtag and try to answer with the Topic numbers (T1, T2, T3)
  • zedunow Aug 23 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Check out this week's #FOAMus Weekly Wrap Curating the best in #ultrasound and #POCUS news/views and #meded from the past 7 days https://t.co/Sm5KE7QlqW
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    We will assume that all of your tweets are your own during this hour unless otherwise stated #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    T1 about to come up in a few moments #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Topic 1: What are people, organizations, issues influencing medical education? #meded
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    T1: What forces outside of your institutions influence medical education most? #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    T1 #meded Most obvious....LCME Others include Institute of Medicine, government (opioid issue), etc.
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    T1 Is it too heavy to start with institutionalized racism? Because I also believe that online review culture is a solid answer. #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    T1 #meded Tell me more.
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    T1 I actually think that professional associations and conferences are highly influential, just not in the ways we'd always hope. #meded
  • paladineh Aug 23 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: Accreditation agencies like LCME and ACGME, government also plays a large part due to residency funding #MedEd
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    T1 #meded How so? Do you think they are too influential or not enough?
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    The ever expanding fascination with technology has changed our practice of medicine again and again... here is a great read about some of the historical milestones and their fundamental effect on the way medicine is learned and practiced: https://t.co/p8JbaDBhgR #Meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    T1 #meded Do you think then this is harming #meded and the physician workforce?
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    I see the pressure to publish/present transfered early on from faculty to students. And novice researchers are so focused on acceptance they often pander to the associations when forming their research questions. That's a nasty habit to break. #MedEd
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    T1 #meded Good points.
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    We just spent our whole morning looking at our GQ results, because of LCME's focus on them. Problem is, GQ may have serious issues from a psychometric standpoint (nobody ever seems to talk about this), and may actually harm innovation rather than stimulate it... #Meded
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    T1 Well yes, in that institutionalized racism harms every facet of society, and has direct, a measurable impact on patient outcomes. #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    I have totally seen this happen -- studies with impeccable methods about questions that I couldn't care a rat's a** about... #meded
    In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    T1 #meded It's been a topic of conversation here as well. It's amazing how much impact it has when it honestly doesn't tell you much (no comments no context)
    In reply to @myheroistrane
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Topic 2: Should medical school leaders respond to these issues when they arise? If Yes, to what extent? #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    T1 #meded But couldn't it be that it is of interest to the organization? That may be the reason they've put it out there for their particular strategic initiatives.
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @AJKleinhex
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    T2: What should medical school leaders response to these issues be when they arise? #meded
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    There's something to be said for generalizable research experience. But if we want to train more people into academic medicine we have to teach them how to answer the questions that keep them up at night. #MedEd
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @GLBDallaghan
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    T2 #meded If it's an accrediting body then you're almost obligated to.
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    In one of the organizations I frequent, I have seen such a singular focus on the methods being "correct" and "rigorous" that the actual importance of the question being asked has been lost. We need to be asking the important questions in #meded.
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    In one of the organizations I frequent, I have seen such a singular focus on the methods being "correct" and "rigorous" that the actual importance of the question being asked has been lost. We need to be asking the important questions in #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    T1 There's a place for tailoring a research agenda to strategic aims. But we also need to create space for people to ask questions that no one has thought to ask yet. #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @myheroistrane
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    You knew this was coming, Gary: T2: Medical School Leaders should band together and demand that the NBME #MakeUSMLEPassFail #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    T2 #meded Here is an example of how much an external issue has had an impact on #meded https://t.co/P0aDX24i48
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Or better yet, disruptive questions. #meded muaha
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @GLBDallaghan
  • admsep Aug 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    T2 #meded This is an important issue to address. It was a disruption for many medical schools to drop things to ensure this topic was covered.
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • SoniaMKhunkhun Aug 23 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    We always can do something. Show support. Care. Guide. Counsel. It's why I hate the words "withdrawal of care." We never stop caring #meded
    In reply to @JohnCarlsonMD, @TulPeds
  • __tannaz Aug 23 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    And today the Senate HELP Committee got to see her twirl in person! #ILoveScience #fundNIH #MedEd
    • NIH Aug 23 @ 10:28 AM EDT
      .@NIHDirector on the Hill: 100% of the kids who got the highest dose of gene therapy were alive at 20 months. Nearly all could talk & feed themselves. And some, like little Evelyn Villarreal, shown here in a video taken two months ago, could talk, walk and even do push-ups! #NIH
      In reply to @NIHDirector
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    T2 It is imperative that administration proactively acknowledge and then respond to the issues that affect patients, their students, and their faculty. Why else are we even here? #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Of course the provocative question would be that, if we had taught our students to actually act in evidence-based ways and not be swayed by big pharma as docs, would we have gotten into the opioid mess in the first place? #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    T2 #meded Are there topics that merit serious disruption of the curriculum to ensure it's covered?
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Topics come and go. We need to seriously disrupt the status quo around what it actually means to educate, and what learning really is... #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    T2 #meded Interesting.....I hadn't even thought of how much pharma influences medical education.
    In reply to @myheroistrane
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    T2 #meded Don't you think it sometimes takes external forces like accreditors to make those disruptions occur?
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @MedEdChat, @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    T2 What I think we need to see more of is context-specific reactions. Schools need to tailor their responses to their mission and the demographics of the populations they serve. #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    that's because we all like to think it doesn't affect us. When I was an intern in the early 90s, the local pharma rep used to take every ward team to lunch at the fine dining restaurant in town each month He knew what he was doing. The educators and learners didn't. #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • paladineh Aug 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Also residency directors! #MedEd
    In reply to @myheroistrane
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Waiting for accreditors to mandate innovation is like waiting for the federal government to fix... anything. #meded
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @myheroistrane, @MedEdChat, @GLBDallaghan
  • sendelb2 Aug 23 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    And data based on student recollection of the past 4 years-not what is happening now. LCME needs to follow ACGME lead and adopt NAS #meded
    In reply to @myheroistrane, @MedEdChat
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    T2 We need to worry more about how we're teaching students to think, and less about what we're teaching them to think. #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    assuming they actually have a clearly defined mission (not just a mission statement that is so pie in the sky it doesn't say anything), and that they actually understand (or are even looking at) the demographics that they serve. #meded
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Topic 3: How should medical schools prioritize responding to some of these issues? #meded
  • Alliance4ClinEd Aug 23 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    T3: How should medical schools prioritize responding to some of these issues...particularly if they choke up valuable time in a packed curriculum? #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Preach it, sister! #MakeUSMLEPassFail #meded
    • paladineh Aug 23 @ 9:37 PM EDT
      Also residency directors! #MedEd
      In reply to @myheroistrane
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    T3 #meded This gets back to @AJKleinhex comments about tailoring responses to the mission and population being served. That will help prioritize things.
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @AJKleinhex
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    T3: IF we actually had a handle on the core concepts, and IF the curriculum were not a political space, and IF we were actually focused on learning rather than content coverage, there would probably be lots more space... #meded
  • AJKleinhex Aug 23 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    T3 Priorities will often fall in line with cost-benefit analysis, but I think the #1 priority for any school should be justice (i.e., social justice, health equity, academic fairness, etc.). #meded
  • GomerBlog Aug 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    RT Diaper City: Storm Cloud Incontinent of Water - https://t.co/nY4iOrwECo #meded #FOAMed #hcsm
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    SO, @MedEdChat tweeps: How is NYU's move to cover the tuition of all of its students gonna affect what happens within YOUR walls???? #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    T3 #meded In my former life in the Midwest, I would say at least once a year we were asked by the AMA or AAMC to report on how we were teaching whatever perceived crisis of the month was. It was truly a hassle and not productive.
    In reply to @myheroistrane
  • cacace_frank Aug 23 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Very interesting re: quality of problem solving in constantly mingled groups vs. individual work only, vs. intermittent mingled group and isolated time back and forth. Considering what this may mean for inter professional care and education teams in #MedEd and #healthcare
    • AdamMGrant Aug 22 @ 8:05 AM EDT
      Solving a problem in a group leads you to more good ideas but fewer great ideas. The opposite is true if you solve it alone. The best of both worlds is intermittent collaboration: alternating between independent and group work. #WednesdayWisdom: https://t.co/HHMSMibZgM
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    T3 #meded Here's an example of what another agency thinks should happen with #meded Feels like this is what inspired AMA Accelerating Change activities https://t.co/6y8eUI5G2E
  • ExaminedLife_UI Aug 23 @ 9:54 PM EDT
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    We have about 5 more minutes left in our discussion. Please feel free to give some final thoughts #meded
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Once again, content comes and goes. We cannot ignore content -- our curriculum must be relevant, BUT... We also need to be thinking process. How will doctors practice when @IBMWatson is in their pocket? How do we prepare our #students for that kind of practice? #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @IBMWatson
  • myheroistrane Aug 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Cryptic Final thought: Institutional culture sits within local culture, which sits within national culture, creating a system with TONS of inertia. Can't just focus on changing the local culture; must also focus on the INTERSECTION between the multiple layers of culture. #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Aug 23 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Final Thoughts: Rather than worry about what external entities want #meded should focus on preparing #medstudents to adapt to the ever changing landscape that is the practice of medicine
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Join us again next week at 9 pm Thursday. Don't forget to suggest topics by DM or email #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Aug 23 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    That's a wrap...I will be posting the transcript tomorrow morning. Thanks everyone for participating! #meded