#aussieED Archive
#aussieED was founded on the belief that all teachers, and students, should have unlimited access to Professional Development, on their own terms, to improve their teaching, their schools and change the lives of the students they encounter. Since then, we have embarked on a mission to reach educators, not only in Australia but, all around the globe. We want to smash the barriers that prevent teachers from easily connecting and learning with each other. To that end, we have developed a regular Ed-chat each Sunday on twitter at #aussieED. The chat allows all teachers, leaders, administrators and all those connected with education to meet on an unbiased platform and discuss the real issues that effect what happens in classrooms everywhere. Our chats are authentic because we are real teachers walking the same walk that so many do everyday.
Sunday October 30, 2016
Say hi... Let us know where you teach!
Just out of interest, can you be about but not out?
It is a gloomy morning here in Scotland thought I'd drop by and say hi
Jack from Geelong. Primary PE and Welfare. I teach in the Melton network in Victoria
Hi, Barb in Canberra - currently studying B.Edn 4th yr upgrade @ ACU with Adam Staples - looking 2 get back into T
Hi, Charlotte here - teaching in Melbourne also about not out
Year 2 teacher NSW. New to twitter
Good morning/evening everyone. Jon Harper, elementary ap here from Maryland
I'm from SA teaching in a rural high school Kapunda HS
Hey , Eddie here from Sydney. Probably not going to be around much as I'm working on Year 7 reports but will pop my head in.
Hi. I'm Alice and I teach in Sydney.
Hi all. Matt. Teach in the Perth Hills. Originally from Sydney. Independent School. Teach students about food…mostly!
In and out of the chat tonight between sorting medical needs for son
Andrew from Cairns here. Tching Grade 5s.
Hello from Cairns! Good to have a free Sunday night to connect with you all!
Hi
Carl from Avonsleigh Vic
HS Maths Science and stressing out with daughter half way through VCE exams
Up nice and early brother https://t.co/prTulqGuLw
Good morning/evening everyone. Jon Harper, elementary ap here from Maryland
all the best with your son
P.S. If any folk are interested in some quick highlights from the NSW Education Symposium held this week: https://t.co/jPs71OjQi1
Hi, Lux from Sydney. Learning and teaching at an inner city school
A1) I'm thinking about being aware of the role that YOU play in how Ss feel, react, learn, care etc
enjoyed the mind frames clip- simple but clear. Pictures helped consolidate the ideas
evening Brett! How are you?
Karen from Brissie. Evening all!!
Great to have you join us... A rainy night here in Sydney https://t.co/VHPiNA2kF5
It is a gloomy morning here in Scotland thought I'd drop by and say hi
Checking in from Brisbane!
Always well.... keep verrrrrrrrry busy at the moment!
Hello. Compassion and empathy have always helped me teach. To never forget the struggle of being a is such a gift.
Hi Karen from Bowen North Queensland.
Hi Caroline here. I teach in western suburbs of Melbourne
A1. Be aware of your affect/impact on Ss. 8 M'frames - sound guide for Ts 2 reflect on
One of the mindframes in the video speaks of 'relationships' https://t.co/FoOZvhsm2T
Hello. Compassion and empathy have always helped me teach. To never forget the struggle of being a is such a gift.
Didn't do my homework and watch the clips but I would hope all professionals aim to know their impact! https://t.co/I68vKfMUMV
Q1- Know thy impact! What is your response. Also, share your thoughts on the 8 mindframes clip->… https://t.co/sYVZBVgZXP
Q1-know thy impact- this is vital. Must know that what we are doing is what we think we are doing and that it about our students
I'll mostly be lurking in this chat and learning from the conversations
Hi! I'm Penny, from Sydney. Looking forward to tonight's chat
A1 definitely worth attention butour impact changes with each group and almost each individual so hard work!
A1 Being able to know and show what the students in your class are learning, not just what we're teaching
My eyes are half open, but I made it:)
a1. I think it is easy to forget just how much of an effect we do in fact have on our students. Example is everything.
I am in my final weeks of a Bach ed and just getting started on twitter. My first aussieed experience!
A1: Knowing thy impact is important. Measuring thy impact…a little trickier. Relationship is key! Is it all about us?!
This is true. There is so much we can control though to have a positive impact on students
A1 sometimes the very smallest of actions or words can have largest of impacts
My 2nd week chatting with all of you from CT! So glad to see I have other colleagues who are up at 5:30
I just watched it 5min b4 hand!!! Yes I agree we should all know our impact
Welcome. Helped my practice so much by getting on here. Amazing educators everywhere in the PLN
the most influential thing for me was "teach students first, then the content". Relationships = impact
A1 Remember it's all about the Ss and how you can help them achieve. It's about the learning.
A1 Knowing your impact is about using effective, evidence based teaching that is consistently refined, shared and renewed
Love that you can join us https://t.co/gYszAsSimE
My 2nd week chatting with all of you from CT! So glad to see I have other colleagues who are up at 5:30
Agreed Charlotte, and we need to be aware of it. https://t.co/WoGxE09VPk
A1 sometimes the very smallest of actions or words can have largest of impacts
A1 As Ts we have a huge impact on our Ss in all aspects
Who do I follow for tonight's questions? I think I've missed the first one!
A1 know what impact you want your teaching to have on the progress of students
I’ll take learning over teaching every day! In fact, every day I teach I learn something new!
I'm posting the questions tonight https://t.co/yayog42xMy
Who do I follow for tonight's questions? I think I've missed the first one!
Hi Ellen. Obviously in for a big party over there. We are on melbourne Cup long weekend in my state.
Just reading posts as they fly past while eating late dinner
A1 'know thy impact' = the butterfly or ripple effect of learning & teaching
A1-important to know your impact - to improve your teaching and outcomes for students. Vid a good reminder
what about the Ss in the 8 mindframes, what do the Ss want to learn? Child focused learning? Very teacher focused
There definitely is a change of mindset happening across our profession
Q1 all of us can tell a story from our own schooling about the impact of a great teacher or one who put us down. Know thy impact.
That's why I spend the first f/n teaching routines and structure. Rest of the year is easier that way
Great work Sarah - congrats on nearly finishing your B ED
Impact of teachers is manifested in a vast multitude of ways, though...
Not sure if my internet is running slow or too many responses are jamming my tweetdeck!!!
Get involved! Great to have you along. Twitter is pretty awesome for teachers!
I think you're right, Eddie. That's why it's so important that we stay strong and committed.
Hello, Amanda from Sydney joining the chat. I like 7 out of 8 mind frames. #2 is feels impossible to achieve
We should never settle we can always improve
Hi All - Rachel from Port Macquaire - Finally a Sunday night where the kids are in bed at a decent time.
Welcome all... Say hi, tell us what you teach. 1st question in a few minutes
Can you tell us more of what you mean? Feel? Thanks https://t.co/oBUBCGrtqA
Hello, Amanda from Sydney joining the chat. I like 7 out of 8 mind frames. #2 is feels impossible to achieve
Your actions and reactions, positive & negative. all impact Ss
Cameron from Melbourne, looking forward to tonights chat
Encouraging students to be risk takers and rooting for them every step of the way!
A1. Ss remember great teachers, dreadful teachers & eccentric teachers! They don't remember the so-so. Which one will we be?
I love the flipped chat Brett with the video - great idea!
I would say both equally Brett. Impact helps understand practice. How you practice is defined by your impact
A2. Impact is long term, practice is short term.
A2 Both impact and practice is important
Crystal QLD isn't the intention that practice is modified by impact? So both have the same importance? https://t.co/i96oe4wwdR
A2 I would imagine good practice leads to positive impact
A1 - understanding your impact is one of the main keys of teaching
Hi all, Eva from Sweden here
Nice. Hope you're having a blast! We were hoping for a party, but my brother's Cubs r down 3 games 2 Indians.
A2 is it not practice that impacts?
Not sure. Often I've had to learn a new method or way of doing. Never measured what difference that had on the kids
A2. Practice 2 me is what we do every day...impact is how we make a difference with and for Ss
A2) Balance. Practice is important but it isn't going to happen if the impact is ill considered
Am I the only one confused by the Chicken/Egg question?
A1 Data shows that an excellent teacher can have more than 12 months progress to Ss outcomes compared to an ineffective teacher.
Knowing thy impact & knowing thy students seem synonymous to me
World Series baseball . We do have a long weekend, though, work day and then All Saints Day.
A2 if your practice isn't having an impact you need to look at it
Indeed. I suppose I was taking it for granted that the practice was good. https://t.co/RKrRyx9LlP
But some poor practice could have no impact...
committed and strong teachers do this stuff because they are invested in the education of their S
A2 both matter but practice gives us insight and helps us grow the tool kit to problem solve w the variety of students we get
Hi everyone, running late Q2 A good practitioner will may an impact but what do we define as a good practitioner?
You came to the right place! Also check out .
Hi Eva. How's Sweden today? Are you making jam?
A2 - the way you practice surely impacts how your teaching is taken in
A2 impact and practice - symbiotic relationship?
A1: I feel that the learner has equal responsibility to learn as the teacher to lead.
Anthony from Brisbane, A2: Practice is less effective without impact. Ss respond to impact & relationships
and some learning can be impacted upon without a change in practice
We just have a horse race
Q2 is a good practice being a organised & routined etc because I know teachers like this but they make no impact on the kids.
I'm not, but I make myself because these teachers are awesome:) Good to see you, Bronwyn:)
Hopefully the method was based on evidence in the first place
In what way would it be good practice if it made little impact? https://t.co/spppSQw1o1
could good practice have no impact?
A2 It depends on the practice we assign kids. It should be meaningful to make an impact!
I'm interested in why? Find asking my students, test scores, lesson and self reflection help in this area
Hello, everyone! Checking in from Virginia, USA! A: practice! Without it, there is no impact. Our practices influences ppl daily
a2. Impact is what we are hoping to achieve and practice is how we how we hope to achieve it.
Thanks Barb! Exciting time, yet will always be learning https://t.co/pPBIZsb81Y
Great work Sarah - congrats on nearly finishing your B ED
Q3 - Mindframe 3 and Standard 7 calls us to talk and connect. What teachers and networks do you us… https://t.co/rNOO9XAo6Z
Yeah I get that. My issue is that I swear that I've had a missive impact just because I held my tongue the right way
A2: Practice that has impact???
change agent, yes! I think Ts are really tough on themselves. though. Sometimes what we give will never be enough
Should being "remembered" be a teacher's main goal or having a positive impact to student learning?
Of all the things you've done, that image has stuck with me. Made me want to listen every time we connected.
# Q2 Impact means so much more relationships, understanding & one of teacher & Ss connecting.Not all good practitioners have this
🤗 my plan is to make Apple jam after . LOTs of apples this year
Welcome Danielle. You are up bright and early
Chicken…it has to be the chicken. Who else would be laying the egg?!
I can see what you're doing...
melton data network, MPSSA sports network, TVDPS welfare team, PLT, PLC, Deakin University, Mentors
melton data network, MPSSA sports network, TVDPS welfare team, PLT, PLC, Deakin University, Mentors
A3) you guys and the spin off conversations that you have lead me to
A3) you guys and the spin off conversations that you have lead me to
the positive impact you make is what makes a great teacher
A2. What we do (our practice) affects our students (impact). What we choose to do determines the + or - value of that impact.
A2) is impact not intertwined with practice?
Spot on... We are teachers because we care... What we do is more than a 'job' https://t.co/eYUTbI39I3
change agent, yes! I think Ts are really tough on themselves. though. Sometimes what we give will never be enough
A3 Definitely twitter and Instagram
I listened to a documentary yesterday about people in Sweden making apple jam. Is it nice?
a2. 's powerful testimony speaks to this "I Assumed I Was Helping My Student, I Was Very Wrong" https://t.co/WkumWyttxf
This is where we need to ensure that we take our time and explain in a variety of ways
Great to have you join in... is fast paced but really interesting
A2 Sometimes one does not know thy impact until years later - feedback can come unexpectedly - think the seed sowing metaphor
A3-AITSL's HALT network, Teachers of Adelaide and various other fb groups, RP assoc, LTASA +
A3b. My office location at school does not allow me to discuss much with colleagues. Twitter chats have been invaluable
Daylight threw me! joining chat late. Glad to see Professional Standards are being used and not just Hattie's work.
A3 This twitter thing is a good start. Can be very hard in an independent school in FNQ
totally agree. Impact comes from practice.
A3 The Primary Executive Network-(PEN) is invaluable, as is and my Twitter PLN of course! Also our variou… https://t.co/ztT2xQABJk
Q3 - Mindframe 3 and Standard 7 calls us to talk and connect. What teachers and networks do you us… https://t.co/rNOO9XAo6Z
I was in the right place at the right time. This teacher is amazing and you can see it from that one moment in time
A3 Twitter is fantastic, talking to likeminded Ts and Ss, attending hangouts and webinars, building a global PLN is empowering
A3 the people in this forum plus anyone willing to enage in discussion about education with me! ;)
Right to the heart of Q2.. We hope we are making impact by doing what we do..but HOW DO WE KNOW? (not yel… https://t.co/Ep4dTkJML6
a2. 's powerful testimony speaks to this "I Assumed I Was Helping My Student, I Was Very Wrong" https://t.co/WkumWyttxf
A3: We talk face to face, collaborate online and work within our department daily. Its outside the department we struggle.
A3. Anything & everything. We need a balance of close connections & links further afield. Go deep & broad! https://t.co/ffN5fvsPhO
A3. Social media has broadened my learning immensely through the "strength of weak ties" http://t.co/7NaJQhCY5K
A3 too many people to list here workplace PLN local F2F network meetings & conferences
I think it is teacher focused Andrew, so that Ts (we) remember the impact we make on every child.
A2, Scarily enough some teachers have a -ve impact too - obviously no one here but I know of some!
A3) Best form of talk and connect is by using to travel all around the world can't wait for
A3: Lots, tchr associations, Pinterest, Twitter PLN. is incredible!
this, conferences, PL inservices, staff, teacher/parent friends, and the like
A3) My favorites are and . Love connecting here with you all, too.
I'm intrigued. How do you find them?
A3 Twitter, Umbrella meetings & Renaissance women's network in Syd
I discovered Twitter for connecting about 18 months ago. Obviously local networks too! https://t.co/C2ZQDSA2yS
Q3 - Mindframe 3 and Standard 7 calls us to talk and connect. What teachers and networks do you us… https://t.co/rNOO9XAo6Z
A3 Different groups on Twitter as well as within my school
A3 def Twitter and we have PLTs at school. Best "talking" is done when I walk in my T partners door with a problem or a solution
A3 Educators we must connect with parents.. they keep as real and shed light on the needs of our practice.
Q4 - Assessment is more about my impact as a teacher and less about student performance. Discuss... https://t.co/IYOI6bcuHv
Good morning from Scotland. Sorry I'm late!
Inspiration and collaboration comes from infinite spaces - Schools, Mentors, Digital and Local communities and Industry
GruntledChalkie my plan is to make Apple jam after . LOTs of apples this year
Do you do much networking outside Cath Ed?
A3 Important to connect with others outside of the teaching profession - many life lessons learnt from all kinds of relationships
and also providing affordance via TLCs @ schools
Sorry for being late. Which q are we up to?
a3. is an amazing tool that has allowed me to connect with educators from all over the globe. It is my #1 go-to
A3 Twitter and also part of an iSTEM teachers network in my local region.
A3. It is good to connect with people in every area of your teaching. For me that is PE Ts, maths Ts, classroom Ts, T/Ls & you all
A3. If the question is who do you talk about learning with. I talk about "learning" with my students and my peers at work & blog.
A4) What's assessment.
Good assessment is about the student but you need to understand what youa re assessing
It's also good to hear from 'unlike minded' people too https://t.co/QFwqZE24HW
A3 Twitter is fantastic, talking to likeminded Ts and Ss, attending hangouts and webinars, building a global PLN is empowering
Engagement, student feedback, formative assessments. Really want to know your impact? Build relationships
Voxer can be a powerful communication tool https://t.co/2fydTWsU6w
a3. is an amazing tool that has allowed me to connect with educators from all over the globe. It is my #1 go-to
we've had in school this term so observing other teachers & engaging in professional convoy
I def. think feedback & reflection help a lot. You just can't be perfect 100% of the time
A4 assessment informs you about your impact but also where you have made less impact and need to revisit
I so agree with this!! Helps me to understand different perspectives and to see problems through a different lens!!
Q4 - Assessment is more about my impact as a T and less about student performance. Discuss... https://t.co/IYOI6bcuHv
A3:Fellow member of , a fantastic eCOP
Yes!. Unlike minded people open us to new ideas or help us understand our views
A3: And Twitter…but why preach to the converted. I email Tweets and transcripts to others. Just in the hope they catch on!
I was so sleepy, I forgot to ask what the Melbourne Cup was:)
A4 a teacher's impact is reflected in student learning outcomes. Assess used by a t may not nec match their learning goals
A3) allows my
Ss to meet experts from outside education from the other side of the world
That's a really good call... Often ignored
not much - don't know the channels! A bit in sport but not otherwise. You?
Going beyond the Edusector to learn from Industry and Community
A4: Teaching’s not a delivery service like Auspost. Well, maybe it is. Some stuff gets lost. In translation. Shouldn’t be, though!
A4: agreed! Assessments shape instruction by showing us what kids know or don't know. Use the data 🤗
A3 - all the awesome educators at and help improve my teaching
A4 I think assessment should be more about measuring student progress not performance.
I like to use assessment as a teaching tool to improve exam technique
A3 connected by Tw PLN but all of this talk of apple jam woke me up- I need breakfast
A4. The 2 could be combined for a real audience if Ss present what they have learnt, their change in understanding & your impact
I also like and Both are fantastic for connecting to other
A4 Assessments are like health checks - they’re meaningless unless you do something about them - who’s in the driver’s seat ?
Q5 - Standard 1 - Know Ss and how they they learn. What is the difference between a graduate T & a… https://t.co/m4KzWaOxbW
A4. My impact as a tcher is defined by my students' understanding. Don't understand = no (or -) impact and need 2 reteach
A3 Twitter, PLCs, Instagram, have an all over personality so I like to change it up also just joined adobe ed exchange
Yes it's a horse race and I chuckle at the fact that we get a day off for it.
Assessment is the teachers way of checking on their own impact! And judging how much progress Ss have made https://t.co/v23nwg340a
Q4 - Assessment is more about my impact as a teacher and less about student performance. Discuss... https://t.co/IYOI6bcuHv
A4 the issue with assessment is that we often don't decide what matters. Others do. They also decide when is has to be done by
A4 assessment is our roadmap-keeps us on right track as educators, informs when we need 2 take detour, double back or race ahead
As you know, finding time is always a challenge, but when you can connect to outside of your immediate team...success!
Q4 assessment is an integral part however self-efficacy building is a powerful tool in order to cope with assessment.
A3 Prof dialogue with colleagues and Midlothian DHT/PT network & Twitter PLN of course is invaluable for reflection/ growth
Yes David. Good assessment has a purpose
Nice to meet you too, Ellen. Hope you enjoy the chat.
Assessment is about understand the impact, relating that to student performance to improve teaching practices
A4 At this time of year, report writing, assessment is all about where are Ss on the continuum 😄😄
Assessment is a good measure of both positive learning impact can lead to S achievement
there isn't any other way of knowing other than demonstrated performance.
A5 I'm 4 years out and some days feel accomplished and other days a raw beginner!!
A4 - many different assessments help form understanding for our Ss, so my impact helps this
A4 as such, assessment in thise conditions serves none, it becomes a bureaucratic burden in the process
Trying to build those networks. Find it very hard though as I find many schools/systems like to isolate up here
A4: If Ss performance is taken as synonymous w/ Ss understanding then I think the 2 are as related as teacher practice and impact.
When I taught in Pennsylvania we got off the first day for hunting buck. Too funny.
I am always energized after . and I were lucky to meet f2f this summer.
Q5 As an early career teacher, I can explicitly say I know less about teaching the more I learn
A4 It's not that the Ss aren't learning it's that my 'teaching' isn't working and how can I adjust?
Know thy student and build them up.
Assessment is about 'where to next?' It's a continuous cycle. Can be strengthened by student/teacher both as part of the process
A5 The main difference is pedagogical understanding and acquired skills associated with lesson transitioning and lesson fluidity.
A5 - ‘The prefix / name’ - think we need to determine a teachers professional status by outcome - not just a list
A5) Experience.
This is a valuable thing although they both can offer each other skills.
A5-in my exp it he diff relate to having taught multi ability classes
A4 depends on therapeutic of assessment. Open assessment and pbl are about the Ss not the teacher.
Knowledge of different Ss abilities, expertise of their subject and leadership which can be passed onto the graduate T.
A5 years do not matter- the best teachers are informed, passionate, resilient, attentive, and focused
A5 - Knowledge of different Ss abilities, expertise of their subject and leadership which can be passed onto the graduate T.
I also have the issue that none of the schools teach religion!
A4 This is my favourite out of all of them. Quality assessments essential.. not just pen & paper tests.
We could use some buck hunting in my forest at the moment. They spread disease that alpaca can catch
A5: too much to put in a tweet! difference in knowledge, supporting & wokrking w colleagues, evaluation, differentiation
ditto re 32 years as educator/leader ;-)
A5: Can graduate teacher’s not sometime be accomplished? Often have a different perspective and useful fresh ideas.
A2 Practice that leads to impact. Enquiry about the latter has to inform the former. Practice must be driven by impact.
+ A4: So much about assessment is about a teachers impact - supporting a connectedness to learning, possibly and reflecting.
I agree here Cass. 12 Touchstones really made me think about practice and what I do every day https://t.co/KCBrEHgdJX
A2 if your practice isn't having an impact you need to look at it
Q4 assessment is about S performance. Best if followed by self reflection - by both Ss and teacher
Very well said https://t.co/fQODtoPg7U
A5 years do not matter- the best teachers are informed, passionate, resilient, attentive, and focused
Absolutely! But that can be confronting. My experience is that we tend to play down our impact - good or bad.
A5: Depends who is asking…highly accomplished are confident enough to know that not speaking is often better than speaking. Time.
A. it measures both our impact and student achievement. The gives us data guide the next steps in improvement.
Yes! What Sarah said with bells on it https://t.co/vRqyzWgv8F
Assessment is about 'where to next?' It's a continuous cycle. Can be strengthened by student/teacher both as part of the process
I have shockers in the classroom. I find that is where my best practice comes from. I learn from the mistakes
Yes, so true! Assessment FOR learning (both teacher and student!)!!
A5 after 40+ years teaching ... I'm still learning ... everyday is different and often just being there forSs is what they need
Losing the thread of this - so many As!
A5 T are ultimately responsible for S not meeting set learning goals IMO
a5. Graduate teachers often act based on what they've read whereas experienced teachers often act on experiences they've had
I like how you put this. I see it more as feedback to help me in guiding them.
A5 actual in the classroom training is not something that comes from books- learn character building, expertise, rapport
Even better - Evaluated experience. There are many experienced Ts who have not learnt from their experience.
I'm sure I still have friends in PA who love to help you out.
It's not. I'm working on bits a time. The book says in the opening sentence start small and build up.
A5. Some may say very little. Ultimately it comes down to experience and professional learning and how this is then outworked
+ Assessment should focus on process and growth. Students achieving a PB so to speak.
Q6 - - One year of growth for one year of learning! Fair call or an over simplistic catch phrase? https://t.co/Prsp0q7FDx
New perspectives and ideas are great. Experience, and the reflection that comes with it, needs time
I just started with item 1 and 2. Learning intention and success criteria is vital
Twenty years+ in the job and still can't say I am highly accomplished. So much more to learn and Ss change every year.
Yes. definitely evaluated and reflected experience
lost it ages ago - my eyes are going funny - look away to take a mouthful 100 tweets go by!!
I like 'teaching for understanding' with its focus on performances of understanding rather than mere assessment.
A5-HA more nuanced understanding & responding to individual needs of Ss-grad theoretical understanding but 1-size for all
A5 The analagy of Saplings and Mighty Oaks also applies here - Exchanging ideas and mentoring is key to building mighty forests
A year of growth and a year of learning looks every different on a range of students
100%. Time isn’t always the answer though. I have come across “experienced” Ts who aren’t willing to change/learn
Brilliant! Where to next and how can I guide you there…. Years of exp not always the best measure of the t… https://t.co/6sCH4OXqGn
Assessment is about 'where to next?' It's a continuous cycle. Can be strengthened by student/teacher both as part of the process
I'm afriad once again it's the latter
Yep Janelle. 28 years and things have moved so often I get to make new mistakes to reflect on all the time
A6 What is meant by a year? Where I work, a school year is only ten months
Q5 Graduate T's bring a fresh vibe to the teaching world!! Clear example of this in my school. They can bring a new excitement!!!
A.6...Hmmm this is quite deep.learning 4 both Ts & Ss occurs all the time.over a short & long period of time...not sure I've ans ?
Since I started focusing on student led approach, I feel I've gotten better@ assessment 2. We're a team. Ss and me
A6. The data needed to substantiate this for each Ss is huge. I believe this is ideal. Unsure how to make this happen for every Ss
True. They can be quite frustrating.
A6: time doesn't = growth. We all grow at our own pace
A6 terribly oversimplified... Hattie has not taken into account the variability between curricula...
A6 fair call but also simplistic in that some students just need more time to grow that one school year time frame.
A6 great question - think learning should not and is not measured within a limited timeframe - human brain doesn’t work like that
A6: I think growth is a little more rollercoaster than that. I learn and unlearn things all the time! Highs and lows abound.
A5. Just to brag - I passed the TAA assessment of my Lead Teacher Application so BOSTES can not review and ratify it hopefully.
A6 ha ha... so much happens in a year! Ss all grow and develop at different rates... physically emotionally and intellectually
A6 one year of growth for one year of learning should be viewed as the minimum requirement. Who would settle for less?
Yes! How do you determine what a yr of growth is? For 1 of my Ss a year of growth was learning to write his name
Q6 fair call but consider each student's starting point. The simplistic approach of one year's growth may not fit every student.
A6 1 realistic using evidence based practices but also need to consider context need assessment to show growth
A6 1 realistic using evidence based practices but also need to consider context need assessment to show growth
A6 Simplistic IMO. Ss are so varied so it follows their growth rate will be varied. Many things can impact each year
A6, a fair call when growth is personalized, goal-oriented, and unique for every kid
Perhaps knowing you are not there is when you actually arrive? More so than thinking you know it all.
Good call. We all have our peaks and troughs. This doesn't take that into account
- might have to turn off computer 4 a bit...a large storm brewing outside. Thanks for the chat
A5. Sometimes passion, a love of Ss and teaching is more valuable that 25 years in the classroom - age does not determine value
that all depends on the child. For some a year = a year but for others a year = 2 years or 6 months
A lot of (dare I say, meaningless) catchphrases being thrown around tonight!
A6 Does anyone know what 'one year of growth' means? Surely this is individualised. You cannot learn for one year without growing
a6. I think over-simplistic catch phrase. A year's growth looks different for us all as it would for our students.
How to define a 'year of growth'? Can't we just focus on continued growth relative and relevant to each individual Student?
A6 - good call, but some learners (Ts and Ss) can take some extra time to understand complex problems
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mentoring frm experienced teachers build quality teachers/teaching cr8 enviro where Ss take risks
So true Positive relationships are vital. Knowing a teacher cares makes such a difference https://t.co/dsSMPtZUVF
A5 after 40+ years teaching ... I'm still learning ... everyday is different and often just being there forSs is what they need
I did that. It was a lonely room
It's not about the time taken to grow, but the personal achievements, success and celebrations for each student AS they grow
A6. Fair call but for some Ss 1 year means very little progress on a test but a huge gain social, emotionally and physically.
age and attitude are totally unrelated
I'm about 15 minutes behind
Animals are fascinating to me. I hope the deer get better soon and that alpacas stay healthy.
A4-complicated. S not doing well can be v confronting, while acknowledging your part in success can be seen as big-headed
I think this is the plight of the teacher -forever wanting to do more, learn more and be better. At least for me!
I find myself craving it lately.
just like a SMART goal, it should be time bound. Measurement of growth should never be determined by time, but by the individual.
Sometimes that is a massive step forward
A6.A year is different for all of us. We all grow but not in the expected direction
This is why our school is so data driven. How do you keep your data Brett?
A5 & A6 are v. similar.. it all depends on your starting point. Our values & focus change depending on life circumstances
however so much of this depends on the teachers.
probs 15 mins ahead of me...
A4-complicated. S not doing well can be v confronting, while acknowledging your part in success can be seen as big-headed
What about caterpillar to butterfly with some time for chrysalis? Seasons of growth and re-creation? Rest to renew?
A6. When I was 15, my mum was diagnosed with cancer. She died when I was 18. Definitely not 3 years of academic growth in there!
A6 If we don't judge students on age-based expectations than one year's progress should be realistic for most students
As a graduate teacher I am working towards becoming proficient in the graduate teacher standards
A6-too simplified. Ideally yes, but school and life is way more complicated than this
Not sure I agree with this at all. Firstly with "entitlement" culture, secondly with "expected" rate https://t.co/ahph5wLcDd
Tadpole to frog - Students are entitled to learn and improve every year at an expected rate. Ts should know if this… https://t.co/S0onZm9TJe
A7- I've had very little to do with Hattie. I've not read any of his writings. AITSL however is a resource I hold in high regard!
We need to stop trying to standardise learners, their learning and our expectations
A7. The aitsl standards are brilliant for ensuring holistic teaching to a high standard if all 43 are being addressed????
A6. I think this is about how we use the time. It's a reminder to use time for maximum impact. Make each moment count.
Nailed it! https://t.co/cE7e71veuI
It's not about the time taken to grow, but the personal achievements, success and celebrations for each student AS they grow
A7: AITSL makes for a level playing field. The states then un-level the conditions for play by pitting state v state.
Regardless of the starting point, a year’s growth will look different for every child, no?
A7 Work with both with Pre-service teachers at Griffith Uni! Ss need to understand and demonstrate standards in practice
I was reminded of that this week when I was working in after school. They just want us to really listen.
Have interacted with Hattie's work since the start of my teaching course. His and Marzano's work comp each other
completely agree! New teachers can bring passion & fresh enthusiasm. Also depends on the individuals
So true. As long as the student progresses in I think we are succeeding. Everyone learns at different rates
A7 We use AITSL Standards as part of our P&D program and are currently part of a Hattie led project so I am learning about both
At my school we have Stage learning teams with shared expectations Just finished Grammar Tracker based on syllabus
Kind of you to say. I should add that though there was <3 yrs academic growth, there were >3 yrs of other growth!
currently dressed as superman for kids party so will catch up later!
A7- love Hattie's work and v supportive of think their materials are fabulous and always keen to work with the crew
Passion is fantastic - Learning how to translate that to sustained impact in practice is a challenge!
A7 Like all, need to engage critically and identify flaws, then apply to local contexts. AITSL good source of research info
This is really well put. We need to ensure that we never rest and always try to improve practice
A6. some ss have minimal growth in 1yr on a continuum or data. However whole child can be seen to have grown socially/emotionally
and a pity that's not measured on a standardised test it's made you who you are today i suspect
It sounds like a great learning environment
A6 It's simply a metric to help understand progress and understand what works and for who. Eliminates excuses.
I had a huge amount of physical & emotional support to be grateful for. I think the 1 yr is a good guide but a bad rule.
A7 We have been choosing standards & setting these as personal goals
Maybe just rest a little…at night? But I hear you!
Agree, agree, agree! It is our job as Ts to see and celebrate success in every S, regardless of rate.
A7 Plenty of criticisms over Hattie's effect sizes. I like to look into the studies behind his work. A lot of good stuff there!
Without a doubt. Can't overstate the extent to which something like that shapes your character & values
5 hours sleep covers it Matt. LOL. Try to get 8 twice a week
A7 We use Standards as well as the work of Marzano to conduct reflective practice and pedagogical coaching from P-12
A6 every Ss experience/situation is different but yr of growth = yr of learning illustrates impact of effective teaching practices
which bit? Entitlement because we ought to be teaching students to take responsibility for learning
A8: Relationships are key. Teachers learn from those who connect with them. And they like. Just ask them. They will tell you.
I agree that it takes more time, understanding and experience but generally leads to those outcomes as well.
3am thoughts about Ss and how you can be more effective comes as a mandatory part of the profession, right?!
Completing my exp. accred. and reflecting on standards improved my teaching. A must for all Ts.
Good morning all.Kevin a Teaching Principal in Ireland.Sorry for joining late
expected because everyone learns at different rates depending on many things!
A8 - All 8 working together are most important. Each helps Ss and the classroom to work at its optimal
I see lots of opinions about growth! Love the discussion. What's wrong with one year growth in one year, when specific to the Ss?
A8. Dialogue not monologue
Learning is a team event
A8: Students too… Probably important for teachers as well, though!
Perfect! I just think it is so important to take each S and their growth as an individual!
I teach (and learn) through dialogue, not monologue. What can we learn from one another?
I owe so much of my growth to Teach Like a Pirate and Learn Like a Pirate
A8 There are times when each will be important depending on the time, place and situation!
A8 Tossing up between 3 and 7. R'ships are key but I hear too much about teaching. Its not about me its about them!
Twitter has led me to so many amazing resources. It's made teaching a new adventure again.
A7 use standards as a basis for reflection have then as element in model
A7 certified as HAT in 2014, first in SA independent school. Part of HALT committee , reviewed CPC
A8Thats tough. But #7 build positive relationships. Others things can then follow
Well, but still waking up:). Hope you had a lovely weekend!
Relationship is the buzzword of every professional dialog yet lot of Ts choose to close doors & teach.
Gotta go and get dinner out of the oven. Thanks for tonights chat and Enjoyed building our relationship and learning!
True but hard for some when Ts are judged by it
Haha, yep & zero sleep the night before the 1st day of term.
I agree 12 months behind or infront ILP and program support meeting. These at risk students need support
Good to see you my friend!
A8. Impact is critical. It can be short term, long term, +ve or -ve but everything we do impacts our Ss every day in some way
Twitter has opened up a whole new world of learning & literally a new world of colleagues to learn with!
Couldn't get up early enough to join you for the chat... but I wanted to say hello to all of my friends! Have a great week!
As we are demonstrating right now:)
A6 growth is cumulative of all the years learning as well as life experiences!
Great to be able to make it to tonight. Thanks for the thought-provoking chat. Catch you all soon!
