#caedchat is for California educators, by California educators. All are welcome as moderators and participants discuss issues that emerge in California education, which are generally applicable to other regions of the United States.
Moderators will post questions with Q1, Q2, Q3. Participants respond with A1, A2, A3, etc.
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A1: Teacher's actions/behaviors need to be that of a positive adult role model for students & high standards of conduct should be maintained. However, a teacher needs professional and personal balance for self-care/longevity; their personal life needs to be respected.
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A1a: Our personal life affects how we are w Ss. When things are stressful in personal life - my head isn't 100% in the classroom. Human nature. #CAedchat
Hello #caedchat folks! Elena from SF, teaching 5th in Daly City. I’ll be in & out b/c I’m leaving with my class to Outdoor Ed tomorrow (for a week) & so, I’ve got loose ends to tie up!
A1: Lots of questions in #1 There is a line that shouldn’t be crossed when building relationships with students. They don’t need to know every detail about your life outside of school. Ts need to be mindful about what they post. #caedchat
What a teacher does in their personal life should remain private if it doesn't negatively impact their performance as an educator, colleague, and role model. #caedchat
A1 Whether it's a should or not, it's a reality. I live in the same area as my school. I'm always self-conscious that I might run into a student. #caedchat
A1: Even though the bar has been lowered (e.g. some elected officials), I’m old-fashioned in thinking that educators have a special responsibility to be models of excellence for their students – both inside and outside of the classroom. #caedchat
A1b: Higher moral standard: that's a lot of pressure to put on educators. We're already under enough pressure. Be good & do good. Try to be pos. #CAedchat
A1: I believe that educators should be held to a high moral standard. We are entrusted with the lives of the most precious gift... our children #caedchat
A1. I’m struggling to answer this question because I believe everyone should lead a moral life, but that can mean different things to different people. As a teacher, I do my best to be a good person in and out of school. #caedchat
I hate to prescribe for others, but I DEFINITELY always felt like I had to be held to a higher standard as a teacher (and maybe more as an admin). What I say in the grocery store, what I'm seen purchasing at the liquor store, what I post online...all up for scrutiny! #CAedchat
A1: What an amazing question, yes teachers should be positive role models and develop student skills to work alongside and care for other humans in their future. Who draws the line where positive role model ends and it becomes a political role? #caedchat
A1 I feel we are held to higher moral standard which can sometimes be unrealistic. But I do feel T should conduct themselves in a way that acknowledges the fact we are role models. modern tech allows Ss & their fam to see into our home lives far more now then before #caedchat
A1a: Our personal life affects how we are w Ss. When things are stressful in personal life - my head isn't 100% in the classroom. Human nature. #CAedchat
A1: Higher moral standards should be something that comes naturally to educators because they are constantly caring for their students before anyone else
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#truestory - I was just going to mention the grocery store. It never fails, I always run into someone whether it's parents, teachers, administrators or a fellow board member #caedchat
A1. Tough questions tonight! I believe Rita Pierson quote: "Kids won't work for people they don't like." Since education is all about relationships the expectations on teaching should be high! #caedchat
Yes. Ts are required to have high moral standards. I don’t believe JennaKleine👸🏼should have a teaching license or work with kids - especially Teens. 👸🏼😂🕹 JennaKleine has been 🍻🚬💉using technology to assault + ⛔️breathing + make ppl👸🏼FAT.
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A1: Tough one right off the bat. Who you are affects how you teach. We should not be afraid to share who we are outside of class. So we should be held to a higher standard but we should also be very understanding if someones standard is different than ours. #CAedchat
#CAEdChat A1: Teachers are called to education, and they often are looked up to as mentors by children. We must hold each other to a higher standard, it is what is right for the profession.
It is always nice to see students & parents in public but they should be cognizant that we are people too who want to enjoy the time we have away from school. Talking about other things beside school isn't a bad thing, lets them see us as more than teachers #caedchat
Honesty. Sometimes I just tell my 5th graders I have some personal things going on. I had to fly to Detroit b/c my dad was ill. I had a lot going on. Teaching took a back seat for a few weeks. Life #CAedchat
A1: while personal life should be respected, teachers' actions in public should be held to high standards. we're community role models after all.. and students pick up on that. #caedchat
Great schools are providing their teachers with increased autonomy and lower-stakes environments to take risks and innovate. https://t.co/mKzlJQwujk#caedchat
A1: for me it’s hard to answer that question just because I’m still a student but In my current point of view I agree teachers should be held to a higher moral standards!! #caedchat
#truestory - I was just going to mention the grocery store. It never fails, I always run into someone whether it's parents, teachers, administrators or a fellow board member #caedchat
#ClassDojo + #JennaKleine have been purposely doing things👸🏼😂🕹so their own Twitter + #SocialMedia looks 💼🤓PROfessional. And to make me look as though I’m just a “Teacher.” #CAedchat
A1: We already live in a social media society. At least our Ss do. I think we're all going to find out the answer to this question soon. I do think society holds us to a different standard. Somewhere in the range between inspiring and disappointing. #caedchat
A1: I think we need to stay true to our morales. Keep your eye on the North Star. If you take a side detour, you can quickly find your way back. #caedchat
A1 regardless of profession, people deserve grace and kindness. When life is more difficult a little more human kindness should be given. Children should get to see that people can be awesome to one another. #caedchat
A2: Values/morals of high power/influence stakeholders (legislators, donors, etc) can sometimes be emphasized in the curriculum. For instance, if a donor gives a school money/devices for a 1:1 tech program, they might insist on specific content being taught, or not
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A1: As a teacher & a Mom (and the daughter of two teachers) I view our role as a service to the community, like police officers or librarians. So, yes, we do need to be role models. However, as an out 🏳️🌈 married woman, I want my privacy respected/not judged. #caedchat
A2: History is always written with a point of view. So long as we’re honest about that and empower our students to be critical consumers, we’ll be serving them well. #caedchat
A2. Another toughie. I'd say that since curriculum and summative assessments are designed more for school administration, superintendents, school board, state superintendents; then their values are attached more than teachers, Ss and parents. #caedchat
A1: our work is very important and impactful. If you are unable to give the level of service you would want for your own child then you need to step away, take care of yourself until you can. I did it once. #caedchat
A2: the creator of the curriculum injects their own values and biases. We need to be aware and create curriculum that is both a mirror and a window for our students (inspired by Welcoming Schools) #caedchat
I don't even think this can actually be said of site or even district level administration...more like state and national level, and politicians, not school officials. It's sad. #CAedchat
A2: My Masters Theses was on #CharacterEd.
Curriculum is affected by those with 💲💲💲. #Assessment companies (including behavior assessment like #ClassDojo) affect Students and normative behavior. #Culture #
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A2: Morals and values are elevated when a teacher is writing a curriculum and inserts their own ideas into what they are educating their students
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A2: This comes up a lot as a History teacher. Teachers should be based in facts and let the students make their opinions on their own. I Love when students start forming opinions, no matter if I agree with them or not. #CAedchat
A2 it can, I always make curriculum neutral, I make sure I educate on as many sides of an issue as I can. I often don’t push the cur prescribed moral message as it’s often a biased point of view. I want my Ss to be able to see many sides #CAedchat
A2 We need to make sure we teach kids research all sides of issues. We can model that so they see that even adults SHOULD check their sources as well. #CAedchat
A2: This is why it's so important for district and site-level administration to empower teachers to develop their own curriculum (you know, actually TEACH!). It's better for EVERYONE. Who knows what influenced canned curriculum? #CAedchat#tlap#leadLAP#ditchbook
A3: We have a moral obligation to teach to the tests TO AN EXTENT. A strong curriculum & savvy teacher will design units & curate learning experiences for Ss that will implicitly support them on standardized high stakes tests. Easier said than done ofc, but the goal.
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A2: the creator of the curriculum injects their own values and biases. We need to be aware and create curriculum that is both a mirror and a window for our students (inspired by Welcoming Schools) #caedchat
A2: This comes up a lot as a History teacher. Teachers should be based in facts and let the students make their opinions on their own. I Love when students start forming opinions, no matter if I agree with them or not. #CAedchat
A3 Our moral obligation is to ensure a year's worth of growth in the standards for our grade level (at the very least) A balanced series of experiences are best for engagement, voice and choice, agency, mastery #CAedchat
A2: All curriculum, whether state adopted or found on @TpTdotcom will always have some bias or layers of hidden/not so hidden morals or points of view. We teachers should feel a responsibility to broaden the knowledge & experience of our students, through balance. #caedchat
A2 A big reason I don't buy curriculum. Companies don't know my kids, don't love my kids, don't know what my kids need. And next year I will have a whole new set of kids with different wants and needs. #caedchat
A2 We need to make sure we teach kids research all sides of issues. We can model that so they see that even adults SHOULD check their sources as well. #CAedchat
The issue remains that systems misalignments abound...too often we ask people to do more in work arounds, than determining how we actually align these systems at all levels. And wonder why people are frustrated and worn out. #caedchat
possibly, but it is difficult because a lot of how everyone is viewed is based on standardized testing... so it is a very important key in curriculum
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That is so true. As many facts as the time allows then. Letting them research for themselves and then pointing out the bias is important as well. #CAedchat
Here we go. Being brave here. We all work FOR a district school etc. As educators we are not independent contractors. Be sure that you can and do resonate with the mission vision and expectations of your employer. #caedchat
So how do you as a teacher determine what is best for your students with SO much out there to choose from? I can only imagine how overwhelming this must be. #caedchat
Most “store-bought” curriculum is biased and teachers have to work HARD to bring in other perspectives. Challenging, but it’s a critical part of our job. #caedchat
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#ClassDojo🍻who likes having meetings at Bars —
📺F•R•I•E•N•D•S intro’d 🙌🏼 ☕️coffeee ship in the 90s. And CA is known for organic coffee, organic foods, organic restaurants + ☕️ shops.
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Hmm...intriguing thought. Not sure I'm ready to answer fully. But I just mean that I think most "curriculum" is designed to replace teachers figuring out how to teach the students actually sitting in front of them the concepts that the teacher/deem important... #CAedchat
A2) It’s the obligation of the T to use the curriculum as support and formative assessments to help students attain mastery. It’s the moral obligation of district admin and school leaders to give Ts freedom to use curriculum and assessment to benefit true learning #caedchat
A3: No, no, a thousand times NO! This is why if you have quality instruction with frequent opportunities for students to innovate, explore, and create through project based learning, the test will take care of itself...
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It is. My PLN helps so much! My students help me determine what they need. Sometimes, they create and create curriculum. Total score and empowers them.👊😊 #caedchat
I often think of the curriculum more in terms of scope, sequence & pacing. Delivery is the teaching part. But then I was a math teacher and we are sort of simple :-) #caedchat
A3: I think that there is a skewed view that teachers should teach the test so their students pass them and can move on to the next level and pass that test next, but I don't believe that there is specifically a moral responsibility for teachers to teach the test
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A2: This is why it's so important for district and site-level administration to empower teachers to develop their own curriculum (you know, actually TEACH!). It's better for EVERYONE. Who knows what influenced canned curriculum? #CAedchat#tlap#leadLAP#ditchbook
Curriculum should never be designed to replace teachers. Learning begins with the teacher. Kind of like how growing up begins with having someone that raises you. #caedchat
#caedchat - Q4 - The obligation is to provide the learning space for children to become career and/or college ready. It is our obligation to prepare them for a successful future where they will need to know how to read, compute and think deeply about world issues.
I know it is an unpopular opinion - but Ss need to perform well on Standardized Test s + their College Entrance Exams (SATs + ACTs) make a difference. #CollegeReady#CAedchat
A3: THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND!!! Why can't we do some of both. I think that most teachers are amazing and can figure out a way to do both in their classrooms that makes sense to them. #CAedchat
A3 I am big on project and game based learning, but all my projects and games are tightly connected to content standards and all have a strong ela component. So while I’m not teaching to the test in a traditional sense, they are prepped for them in the end #CAedchat
A4: The mission of public education is to provide all students the best education possible; society should be held responsible for the achievement of schools and society, generally, needs to take public ed more seriously and fund it seriously #caedchat
#caedchat - A4 - The obligation is to provide the learning space for children to become career and/or college ready. It is our obligation to prepare them for a successful future where they will need to know how to read, compute and think deeply about world issues.
A3. I have a moral obligation to use a variety of well-rounded measures so my students aren’t reduced to minute snapshots of who they are as learners. #CAedchat
A3 I am big on project and game based learning, but all my projects and games are tightly connected to content standards and all have a strong ela component. So while I’m not teaching to the test in a traditional sense, they are prepped for them in the end #CAedchat
I agree, so all things considered is it wrong to help the Ss to overcome a one size fits all system. I say no it isn't. Should we allow it to define the in their eyes? No not that either. #caedchat
A3 In a perfect system we would be teaching to the standards, ie what is important in that subject. And the tests would also be aligned to those standards. IN A PERFECT WORLD #caedchat
A3, For some students 'grades' are the motivation. However, for Ss where grades are not the motivation, what happens? I see lack of engagement, frustration and anger. #CAedchat
A3: This, exactly this! If we cover the content & we teach them crucial skills, they should do fine on their tests & yet that should leave some time, in a year, for projects, creativity, flexibility, story telling, creating, etc. #caedchat
A3: THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND!!! Why can't we do some of both. I think that most teachers are amazing and can figure out a way to do both in their classrooms that makes sense to them. #CAedchat
slightly disagree. Students need to know several 'soft skills' like computer skills, how the tools work. Then there are outside factors - home life, food situation. ses... #CAedchat
A4: I think the achievement of schools cannot be placed on society as a whole because it is not society that teaches children everything they need to know... yes society teaches us important lessons, but school gives us the opportunity to grow in our knowledge base
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A3 Project based learning encorporates what Ss need to know for tests. Not a fan of teaching to the test, BUT Ss deserve to know apperance and function of any test. #CAedchat
#caedchat A3 In instructional design start with the learning objective assessment then work backwards. I guess it depends on perspective. There’s lots of leeway for how to practice, teach, hook. Know thy audience.
A5: Regarding mental health, it is vital to dedicate instructional time to granting such a crucial topic the depth and breadth it deserves. Some teachers at my school have 1 week mini-units just on mental health. That's a good start imo.
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A3: (sorry, stepped away for a moment for bedtime prayers with the girls) I just don't get the disconnect of teachers who think standardized tests are meaningless, but then teach to them anyway! #CAedchat
A3) We have a moral obligation to ensure that Ss at least gain the skills necessary to be successful in life.That can be through PBL and other inquiry based environments..Those skills are measured only partially through standardized tests but we have a LONG way to go! #caedchat
I struggle with this as every school, every student is different yet we administer the exact same test for all students. It's not one size fits all, it should be one size fits one. #caedchat
There is so much to that question. Human organizations are complex and messy. Too often we try and treat them like linear, predictable machines. We must begin to see the interconnections of the systems and networks within and how they affect and influence each other. #caedchat
I agree with Lisa. There was a time when we needed to teach content but now the access to content has changed. We need to help Ss experience and understand relationships between ideas. #caedchat
The problem is educating kids is complex. The problem is systems (states, Feds) want to find simple ways to sort the “good and the bad” as though it could possibly be that black and white. #caedchat
Dunno. I have seven siblings. They went to public school. I attended a Catholic parochial school. Our values are similar. Maybe it’s not all about school? #caedchat
A 4 #caedchat - Schools should constantly be in an improvement cycle. It is inevitable that they are placed under the microscope in our current hyper focused social media world. It doesn't mean that I like it, however, transparency is the direction we need to move to.
A4 I'm not totally sure what the question is asking. But...imagine if society was partly responsible for school achievement meaning that businesses had to support schools with money & personnel for starters. #caedchat
Not so much that "they want to" but rather that they must in order to serve the greater number of students! That is the nature of public education in Amurica #caedchat
That being said, I get the societal/professional pressures. THIS is why we need brave district and site leaders giving teachers permission to do what makes sense for education, not for tests! #CAedchat
Beyond sorting the good and bad, why does the system ignore sampling our students as a way to measure readiness without impacting days of instruction to test. #caedchat
Wish I had the answer to this! I'd say even more advocacy on the part of teachers and those who know + respect them. An uphill battle, but a justified one.
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A4: Schools function as a subset of society. There may be many goals for the education, not just academic goals. Schools need to meaningfully communicate with parents and community about student achievement, and what it means #caedchat
A4. I understand we need to be held accountable for what teach. I just wish the media could give a more well-rounded view of what we do in the classroom and what students achieve beyond the school walls. Tests are just really tidy little bits of data to report on. UGH. #caedchat
A4: I think society gets a lot of the blame but schools need to be held accountable as well. I also think it pushes us to be better. Which is good. #caedchat
A4: Should the achievement of schools be placed on society? No. The achievement of CHILDREN should be placed on society, and schools, and day cares, and boys & girls clubs & parents & on all of us. #caedchat
A4 When lower schools, which often have lower socio economics, have to take more surveys and tests losing over a month of instruction.... the comparisdon is not fair. AND there is nothing wrong with average. #CAedchat
A4. This was somebody's brain fart, aligned to a misguided attempt at accountability! Education is now a global connection for problem-solving. #CAedchat
A4 a lot goes into the making of the test scores much of it out of the influence of the T. They reflect poverty, mental health, language barriers, identified and um identified disabilities, test anxiety and soooo much more. I wish me had another way #CAedchat
A5: By caring for students and putting them before anything else, us as teachers can try to give our students the best environment possible to thrive and live a healthy lifestyle both in and out of the classroom to the best of our ability
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They won't necessarily do well on exam. The reading passages is unnatural. They need to see it & experience it. Draw lines on computer test, analyze what is being asked. Lots of other skills that aren't a standard or 'good teaching'. #CAedchat
#caedchat - A5 - Institute a Personalized Learning Plan for all students. Where all learning needs are being met. Such as coaching child on a field. Not all kids need the same coaching - on the field or in the classroom.
I like the idea but I look at the fences around our schools and their playgrounds. And the gates that are locked all day. And I think this does not look like the center of the community. #caedchat
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Sonal's point is an excellent one. Skills for 21st century embedded in learning: Collaboration, Knowledge Construction, Real-world problem-solving, Use of ICT, Self-regulation and Skilled communication. #CAedchat
A3) We have a moral obligation to ensure that Ss at least gain the skills necessary to be successful in life.That can be through PBL and other inquiry based environments..Those skills are measured only partially through standardized tests but we have a LONG way to go! #caedchat
A5 I feel like we've really swung to the side of the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. This topic makes me really angry. It's very unfair in some cases. #caedchat
I have 30 Ss who all have needs, I'm good but not that good - 5th grade - 1 suicide watch 25% IEP, jailed P, foster kids, ELL;s (who need extra help w a test like this), the list goes on. #CAedchat
A6: In limited experience as grad student + pre-service teacher, I believe there's an unwritten rule that teachers need to put themselves at risk. Could mean being at school early, being available at lunch, and staying late after school for the benefit of students.
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A5: Teaching is human endeavor. It means developing the S's capacity for self-realization. Put the student at the center of the learning process, and you have healthier, more engaged students. #caedchat
#caedchat - A5 - Institute a Personalized Learning Plan for all students. Where all learning needs are being met. Such as coaching child on a field. Not all kids need the same coaching - on the field or in the classroom.
CTE Construction Technology students won 1st place in the 2018 BIASC Design/Build Competition! The boys and girls were on the road by 5:15am both Sat. and Sun. with tools in hand by 7am to complete constructing a garden house. Kudos! #csdr#cte#deaftalent#deafed
A5 that depends on your site & how they enforce. I have had Ss in a “least restrictive env” gen ed class without supports that have made my class unsafe and to chaotic for learning. Others I know have been given supports that keep their rms safe for the other Ss #caedchat
Totally agree. Heck, Amazon and Target know more about what people know and care about through their analytics. The Edtech company that builds a “silent” analytical test which measures as students learn will be hailed as a saviors. #caedchat
A: I thinks healthy schools should reflect communities, neighborhoods & families. I think we have to evolve beyond Gen Ed & Sped boxes. We teach people. #caedchat
A5: Ts need to have ✅MentalHealth.
📰Ts keeping a gun
📰Ts encouraging violence in the classroom.
📰#ClassDojo encouraging 🕹😂using technology.
🤓🤔. 👸🏼😂🕹 💜Attacks.
#Hacking 📲interferes with the heart’s natural electrical 🔌🔋 + blood flow + oxygen.
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A6: As a teacher, I think we find ourselves putting too much pressure on our own actions and protecting our classroom as our own, but somethings go beyond our control. It is a hazy line that we walk around when it comes to protecting the classroom
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#ClassDojo🍻who likes having meetings at Bars —
📺F•R•I•E•N•D•S intro’d 🙌🏼 ☕️coffee shops in the 90s. And CA is known for organic coffee, organic foods, organic restaurants + ☕️ shops.
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It’s hard to capture what happens over a couple semester in a sound bite #caedchat .. maybe Ts need to own their own messaging to the community via blogs, newsletters, #brand?
But some of that inaccessibility is because of how the general public treats school facilities. Our fields are locked up because we can’t have kids running through dog doo, and pet owners won’t take personal responsibility. Then there are liability issues, too. #caedchat
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A7: Not a quote/resource but here's my self-care go-tos
Eat as healthy as possible, meal prep each week
Drink plenty of water, carry H2O bottle w/ me
Exercise as much as time allows, break a sweat
Foam rolling + yoga, helps me relieve tension
G2g, thanks everyone!
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A7: My light at the end of the tunnel comes from Proverbs 9:9 "Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still; teach the righteous and they will add to their learning".
Thank you for the great chat tonight!
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A5: Sorry to be late. Well, the answer is no, because the special education law (IDEA) is meant to protect children with disabilities and really doesn’t have much to do with other children in the gen ed classroom. We need to protect all students by advocating for them. #caedchat
A6 ugh! I’m a mother and I need to get home to my child at the end of the day. I will always do what I can for my Ss to keep them safe in any situation but being excepted to lay our lives down for them is asking too much. Many will regardless but it should be by choice #caedchat
#caedchat - A6 - Leadership is not always following what others have always done before us. This does mean bucking the system sometimes. If the "WHY" is always apparent, it is easier for those around us to support. Is it the right thing to do for kids? Then do it.
A6: Morality and professionalism cross paths where educational leadership is concerned. Finding one's voice as a leader requires an element of courage and dedication to justice #caedchat
Every decision or action you make in the classroom should tie back to your students. - & if that decision is in conflict with what your profession asks of you have the conversation to understand why or why not. #caedchat
#caedchat A6 Friday I got to observe @jesush1979 at work.. he did a great job modeling risk. The behaviors he demonstrated I’ve seen at places like Intel, US Navy.. his Ss are in a good place.
Like some schools treat their students. Have you heard about the study which connected the availability condiments in lunchrooms to student voice? Schools that trusted and educated Ss on responsible behavior saw more student voice. We need to educate the community.#caedchat
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Such a tough topic! I’m all for least restrictive environment, but not when that over-taxes the time/energy of the teacher such that other students are losing out on what they deserve. #caedchat
Because of AMAZING staff, today we identified a student who was in serious need of mental health support. A quiet, anonymous suicide comment turned into a student being heard and getting help. #CelebrateMonday for sure!
#CAEdChat A6: If you make decisions with the best intentions in mind for the students, I don't see how you can be at risk. If someone disagrees with your outcome, just point to where it was the best option for the students. #CaseClosed
Agreed. But we continue to run scared. Scared of parents, scared of publicity, scared of lawsuits, scared of unions. When I am doing the right thing I am not scared. Maybe that is the higher moral standard we were looking for in Q1! #caedchat
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@principledlady, @rickeducation, @DKriedeman, @MsbatistaL, @mrwisley
Thank you to everyone who joined the chat tonight. You are what makes #caedchat great! See you next Sunday!
Be sure to follow some new educators from tonight’s chat AND use the #caedchat hashtag all week long to share resources, ideas, and questions! Continue the discussion!
A5: At our school, planting a rose garden together helped a group of children who were in need of some support & friendship. Emotional support doesn’t have to fit inside a curriculum box or the classroom walls. #caedchat
