#NGSSchat Archive
A Twitter chat focused one helping share ideas and host discussions around NGSS implementation.
Thursday July 6, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
participatechat
Jul 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#NGSSchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/HBHCxebSZD
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
We’ll be following a Q1/A1 format. Please respond to the question asked with an “A” and the number.
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jmaness4
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi! Jusmar Maness, principal from NC
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C3PhysicsO
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
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Matt physics prof, kansas
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Dan Arndt, Bio and Chem teacher at
@EOSmithHS
in Storrs, CT and ConnCAP program at
@UConn
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello! I'm Meg from Kansas City and I teach science 7
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey Jusmar! Thanks for being here!
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In reply to @jmaness4
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome, Matt!
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In reply to @C3PhysicsO
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey Dan. Welcome!
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS, @EOSmithHS, @UConn
Mo_physics
Jul 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi this is Mike high school science teacher in Wisconsin. My 1st
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hey Meg. Thanks for joining us today!
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In reply to @frizzlerichard
kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Kathy, former elem. science teacher, now retired from CA
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Jusmar! It is so wonderful to have an administrator lens talking science education!
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In reply to @jmaness4
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hey Mike. Welcome!
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In reply to @Mo_physics
BMSscienceteach
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Patrick from KY - 8th grade science teacher and NGSS novice level user.
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Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Stephanie, science specialist from MA covering all of New England and NY for
@LabAids
and
@SEPUP_UCB
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining Matt-- I am really excited to hear the postsecondary perspective around science ed
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In reply to @C3PhysicsO
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome, Kathy!
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In reply to @kmgill135
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining us Daniel-- what is the ConnCap program?
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS, @EOSmithHS, @UConn
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
We're all novices Patrick! Always a place to grow when we take on that thinking!
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In reply to @BMSscienceteach
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome, Stephanie!
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In reply to @Steph4Science, @LabAids, @SEPUP_UCB
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome Meg!
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In reply to @frizzlerichard
anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
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hi I'm ann. Looking forward to learning more and getting new ideas for school.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Thanks so much for joining us Mike. I am excited to visit your state at the
#NSTA17
regional this fall!
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In reply to @Mo_physics
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
3 yr HS program targeting Ss from underrepresented backgrounds that helps w/college readiness
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @EOSmithHS, @UConn
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Ann. So glad you're with us tonight!
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In reply to @anngortonsci
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
CONGRATULATIONS Kathy! How is retirement so far?
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In reply to @kmgill135
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi Patrick! It is so great to see you!
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In reply to @BMSscienceteach
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Josh - Teacher in Michigan. Excited to share insight/ideas
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Please start by introducing yourselves with your name,what you do, and where you’re from!
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kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
So far it's kinda like summer vacation!
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In reply to @TdiShelton
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Welcome Stephanie! Thanks so much for joining us!
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In reply to @Steph4Science, @LabAids, @SEPUP_UCB
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Welcome, Josh! Glad to have you here!
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Welcome Ann!
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In reply to @anngortonsci
BMSscienceteach
Jul 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
What is this retirement word you speak of?
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @kmgill135
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Awesome! I am excited to hear your shares about what has been working well to support that initiative in the
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realm
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS, @EOSmithHS, @UConn
S_M_Kelly
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
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Susan ... I teach earth science and physics in Connecticut
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Jumping in a little late - Jessica - elem sic teacher from OH
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
WelcomeJosh!
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Ready for Q1? Shall we get started?
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Welcome, Jessica!
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In reply to @ElemSciTchr
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hi y'all. I'm Sharon Dotger, a science teacher educator in Syracuse, NY.
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hey Susan! Thanks for joining!
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In reply to @S_M_Kelly
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Welcome Susan!
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In reply to @S_M_Kelly
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Hey Sharon! Welcome!
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In reply to @sdotger
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us Jessica!
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In reply to @ElemSciTchr
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Hi Sharon-- it is so great to see you!
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In reply to @sdotger
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Pls join us on
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happening now :) Q1 here!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
#NGSSchat
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1:
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requires us to analyze not only WHAT but HOW and WHY we teach certain things--all these elements incorporated into resources
Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
You have to take an in depth look at all aspects of NGSS b4 creating materials so you become quite familiar w/the dimensions
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MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: Resources will foster critical thinking, greater DOK, enhanced student achievement
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
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kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: It forces you to think really deeply about a topic.
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Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
The why is so huge!! That is the main factor to help move teachers. Just having it on paper isn't enough. Give them experience!
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: As a new(er) teacher,
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is also forcing everyone to analyze all pre-existing resources w/fresh eyes, yields new ideas
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: I agree with others so far. Requires us to be critical and thoughtful.
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Why is the "what," "how," and "why" so important when we consider these standards?
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: also forces you to take on Ss perspective - predict misconceptions, questions, and strategies 2 deal w/things u can't predict
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Speak more to this!
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In reply to @Steph4Science
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Totally agree-- I also found that I am communicating the WHY and HOW a lot more explicitly to Ss & Ps
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
When we focus on the standards, curriculum can help support improvements in instructional practice.
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In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Can you say more about the DOK connection?
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 one of the benefits is the ability to connect with students interests nd cultural backgrounds
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Is this different for other types of standards?
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In reply to @kmgill135
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: resources w/anchoring phenomena will help to keep NGSS focus; but NGSS doesn't mean huge shift in what I'm teaching but in HOW
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C3PhysicsO
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: you need to anticipate where Ss thinking will go and it helps me try to think in a lot of different directions
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
The innovation of the 3 dimensions working together is a game changer AND takes a deep dive into the standards
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In reply to @Steph4Science
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
What is the connection between standards and curriculum?
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In reply to @sdotger
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
CCCs, SEPs, and DCIs all create a more well-rounded learning experience. IMO makes for more targeted storylining and unit planning
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In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Can you share more about this, Kathy?
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
I am also doing a great deal of that
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Totally agree-- I also found that I am communicating the WHY and HOW a lot more explicitly to Ss & Ps
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: 3D design is so unique, intricate, only purpose-built units will be true to the standards.
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In reply to @FredEnde
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
This is so true! The experience is what they will remember for years to come and will help them to delve on a love of science
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In reply to @Chemteach201, @Mr_ArndtEOS
Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: you can't just start w/content and ignore the skills needed to develop understanding of that content
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Standards have always struggled with emphasizing the how as much as the what. What makes NGSS different?
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In reply to @frizzlerichard
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1. Getting into the nitty gritty of the standards and 3-d teaching/learning. Need deep understanding to effectively design.
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Agreed-- and the focus on critical thinking and problem solving resonates w/ all stakeholders in ed as a doorway to future opps
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A1,5: To truly achieve the performance objectives wrapping in the why is more natural. They are much less check-boxy.
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Great point Kathy-- can you give us an example of this/ these experiences for Ss?
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
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Curriculum materials should make each aspect of the PE visible to teachers and students, center on phenomenon 1/
In reply to @FredEnde
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I've seen many curricula that struggle with vague descriptors and verbiage about how a learning task is accomplished
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In reply to @FredEnde, @frizzlerichard
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
I think then student centered focus shifts the need for a how- it requires teacher scaffolding before they begin
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In reply to @FredEnde
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
if Im designer I can include S ?s about anchoring phenomenon N instruction,i can try 2 make explicit connections 2 cult background
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Can you share more about this, Kathy?
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
I just had a conversation about that very idea today-- the benefit of looking at things w/ new eyes/ new opps for learning
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS, @FredEnde
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
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& assist teachers in anticipating Ss thinking. With more shared knowledge in curriculum tools, we could build 2/
In reply to @FredEnde
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Yes. What is the purpose of curriculum? Standards?
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS, @frizzlerichard
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Yes! I love that the SKILLS of science are required to play an integral role
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In reply to @Steph4Science
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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greater expertise among our community overtime
In reply to @FredEnde
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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written as expected proficiencies. The expectation for students to "do" science
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Standards have always struggled with emphasizing the how as much as the what. What makes NGSS different?
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In reply to @frizzlerichard
S_M_Kelly
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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A1 district support for integration of more authentic science research, such as archived EPA, NOAA data
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
The world always looks the same through the same lens. Fresh eyes = fresh ideas!
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @Mr_ArndtEOS
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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the 3D nature gives us a good start
In reply to @FredEnde, @frizzlerichard
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Yes!!!
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In reply to @sdotger
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Yes! Students should learn to be scientists, not people who know things about science.
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In reply to @frizzlerichard, @Steph4Science
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Great point! The phenomena used can be relevant to Ss personal backgrounds which adds relevance and a sense of wonder
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
So important. Learning doesn't happen unless we take action.
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KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#ngss
written as expected proficiencies. The expectation for students to "do" science
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Standards have always struggled with emphasizing the how as much as the what. What makes NGSS different?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @frizzlerichard
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
As a wise friend says, science is a verb! NGSS makes that more explicit than in past.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Love this-anticipating many different lines of inquiry from a group of students about a phenomenon forcing us to think in new ways
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In reply to @C3PhysicsO
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
I love that distinction. It's so empowering for Ss to see themselves as scientists. I strive for that in my class.
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In reply to @safarnum, @frizzlerichard, @Steph4Science
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Off top of head. Thinking ecosystems, connecting with the family unit, ethnic groups
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Great point Kathy-- can you give us an example of this/ these experiences for Ss?
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Question 2 coming up!
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2.What challenges exist when designing with the NGSS in mind?
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safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
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first I've seen that integrates what, how, why (SEP, DCI, CCC) instead of tacking on something about inquiry as afterthought
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In reply to @FredEnde, @Mr_ArndtEOS, @frizzlerichard
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Love this focus on the HOW!
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: resources w/anchoring phenomena will help to keep NGSS focus; but NGSS doesn't mean huge shift in what I'm teaching but in HOW
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
A2: Am I really taking the perspective of Ss when sequencing lessons and planning to counteract previous thinking?
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ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2: It's always difficult to approach things in a new way. Easy to feel overwhelmed and fall back on old approaches.
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anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
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you get to make and creat lessons that fit your students. Creativity is allowed as long as you meet the standard.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
#NGSSchat
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
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Choosing phenomenon with K-12 trajectory in mind. Don't want kids in middle school to think "we did this in x grade"
In reply to @TdiShelton
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2: Designing each lesson so that Ss will come up with info you'd have provided in notes in the past
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2.What challenges exist when designing with the NGSS in mind?
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safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
I agree. Phenomena are the gateway to
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.
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In reply to @kirandpurohit
BMSscienceteach
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2-Challenges - student choice, making sure it is 3D, support systems, allowance for reteaching, preconceived notions (Ts, Ps, Ss)
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Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
@TdiShelton
equity=introducing s's to actions and then vocab provides a basis for knowledge helping all s's build concepts
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In reply to @KRScienceLady, @TdiShelton
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: Are these resources improving Ts time-efficiency in planning or adding more work to an already overwhelming schedule?
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2: allowing Ss the opp. to take ownership of learning while still providing structure- don't fall into the "be creative" trap
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
How is this different from other standard sets?
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anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
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you get to make and creat lessons that fit your students. Creativity is allowed as long as you meet the standard.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
#NGSSchat
kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2: Has to be so much more than list of instructions for a teacher to follow. How do you inspire teachers to use inquiry methods?
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anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
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challenges: writers block..not being able to come up with a good lesson. Limited guidance.
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2.What challenges exist when designing with the NGSS in mind?
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Agreed. I was so excited to see equal emphasis put on the thinking tools (CCC) & the practices "act & think like scientist"
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In reply to @Steph4Science
jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A2:A challenge how to assess Ss understanding in a more three dimensional way- begin with performance task in mind
#UbD
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Q2.What challenges exist when designing with the NGSS in mind?
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safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I think the right phenomena hit the DCIs for the grade level, not above or below. That avoids this issue.
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
They have to see the growth of the Ss themselves. Then they'll be on board.
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In reply to @kmgill135
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2. The complexity of connecting different student background/perceptions to collectively build knowledge.
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KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A2 Making instruction student centered and relevant, one thing 2 create it, another 2 teach it
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S_M_Kelly
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
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A2 To develop something like the two high quality modules on Achieve likely much time and a diverse team
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: Weaving a storyline that stays true to 3D learning, the PEs, the phenomenon, and is coherent from storytelling perspective.
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
BMSscienceteach
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Very true. It has to make sense to the students. If not, they won't want to learn about it.
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2.1: showing Ts that not all curriculum resources are the same and that there are quality materials available and in development
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A2: Are the phenomena chosen to anchor instruction appropriate for audience? Need to consider cultural background, ability, etc.
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jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A1: the amazing collaboration happening amongst science educators right now is a benefit-ALL are seeking understanding
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In reply to @FredEnde
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Student backgrounds is an interesting point. One very important but often overlooked
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In reply to @Chemteach201
Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2.2 I get it. When I taught I mistrusted everything published too. Thought no one could do better than what I could create
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ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
So true, especially if you aren't working with a team. NGSS design is collective work.
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In reply to @anngortonsci
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2.5 Demonstrating learning is happening via s's work to help others (students, parents, teachers, admin) understand changes
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safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Especially true with phenomena. What will click with vast majority of S's?
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In reply to @Chemteach201
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
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what do we do when we find a set of phenomena that fit, but are not to used because of "creativity"?
In reply to @safarnum, @TdiShelton
anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
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sometimes school systems are more ridged with how a topic should be implimented.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
How is this different from other standard sets?
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anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
you get to make and creat lessons that fit your students. Creativity is allowed as long as you meet the standard.
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Q1. What are some of the inherent benefits of designing resources that are built around the
#NGSS
?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
When we collectively seek understanding, we tend to learn more and lead better!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @jaclyn_austin
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Time is definitely a challenge for me as well.
#NGSS
design & growth has required much reflection in my world + opps for iteration
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Challenging from a storyline perspective. Difficult to maintain coeherence across a unit with different writers.
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In reply to @ElemSciTchr, @anngortonsci
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
I'd love to see student work samples from the implementation of the units
In reply to @S_M_Kelly
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
And this is a challenge regardless of the standard set, right? A truly worthy set of goals!
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In reply to @KRScienceLady
S_M_Kelly
Jul 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
@MrWinkleSci
Agreed. I see Bill Penuel suggests getting feedback from students on potential phenomena
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Hi Jaclyn! Agreed-- assessment was one of my biggest challenges last year. Are you going to the national this year?
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In reply to @jaclyn_austin
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Time is huge factor. How long should bundles last? Do they cover enough in the allotted time? Critical ? w no answer
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @Mr_ArndtEOS
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Could you rephrase? Why wouldn't you use the phenomenon?
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Me too, I'm looking forward to more collaborative spots for Ts to share out what's worked and hasn't- surprised there aren't more
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In reply to @sdotger, @S_M_Kelly
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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tell us more!
In reply to @anngortonsci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Here comes Q3!
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sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
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Iteration is key! How can we make that work public and visible?
In reply to @TdiShelton, @Mr_ArndtEOS
S_M_Kelly
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
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@Sdotger
I have seen some examples in NGSX (NGSS PD) and one of the 2nd grade teachers posted on twitter
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I agree! The assessment piece is HUGE! This is one of my biggest goals for the year! To be more intentional at the start
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @jaclyn_austin
Mo_physics
Jul 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
I'm new to
#ngss
learning so much from lurking
#ngsschat
thank you love the conversations
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
#ngsschat
Good question. Take the 5th grade PE about the changing position of stars in the night sky. 1/
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safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
I've found T's can be just as rigid. I'm lucky to work in a school and district that give latitude to try new approaches.
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In reply to @anngortonsci
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Question 3 on
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q3. What changes in your practice were necessary in order for you to shift your planning and design to an
#NGSS
frame?
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Who better to provide ideas...From experience I know that they like and see the benefits once teaching/learning is transitioned.
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In reply to @S_M_Kelly
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
A commonly used ELA curriculum uses a 1st grade story about canoeing on the Nile river 2/
In reply to @safarnum, @TdiShelton
jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Yes, quite a challenge-we've been working to be intentional and think of the authentic performance task to begin the
#UbD
process
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I agree! The assessment piece is HUGE! This is one of my biggest goals for the year! To be more intentional at the start
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @jaclyn_austin
anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
I'll find out soon enough. Starting in sept. LOL. 😁
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q3. What changes in your practice were necessary in order for you to shift your planning and design to an
#NGSS
frame?
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Thanks for being here!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Mo_physics
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A3: Can't plan too far ahead. Depends what each class does in class period. Don't want to stifle learning
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q3. What changes in your practice were necessary in order for you to shift your planning and design to an
#NGSS
frame?
kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: Start with a phenomenon. Use student questions to guide investigations. Allow time for sensemaking
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I would love for you to share your experiences with us here on the hashtag-- it would benefit everyone :)
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In reply to @anngortonsci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Why it is so important to begin with the end in mind! A tremendous value point to design of PEs! So much more easy to visualize!
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In reply to @frizzlerichard, @TdiShelton, @jaclyn_austin
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3 Not much was brand new, but true 3D instruction means doing all the things I used to do sometimes, all the time.
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3:Reframing pre-existing labs. No need to reinvent wheel-but need to be open-ended w/original S discovery that drives instruction
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: I think the storylines and anchoring phenomena were the newest for me- making multiple pieces content link together w/purpose
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Steph4Science
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: We talk a lot w/Ts about resisting the urge to "over teach" and let Ss work on their understanding longer so they retain it
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Ha ha ha ha. No time like the present!
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In reply to @anngortonsci
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3. time planning. More asking questions less providing answers during class. s's experience productive struggle/elated success.
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sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
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Riders look up to see Cassiopeia. So teachers think (and so do Ss) that they're done learning about sky 2/
In reply to @safarnum, @TdiShelton
cduke62
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
#NGSSChat
Q3 I feel the lense thru which you plan must focus on what the kids are doing...facilitation plans!
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Always an important point. Any changes in practice that you think are necessary to keep in mind with
#NGSS
shift?
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
This has been so true for me. Lots of reflection DAILY & iteration. A very diff approach from earlier in my career
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
A3: Explicit instruction of new practices, like modeling. Being armed w/ examples and reinforcing skill throughout yr is essential
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Great advice!
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kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: Start with a phenomenon. Use student questions to guide investigations. Allow time for sensemaking
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Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
I also used
#UbD
to help me. Worked well!! Always remember-there are a ton of methods w/ no one right answer! find what works 4 u.
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In reply to @jaclyn_austin
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
and this is reinforced by the company that wrote the ELA materials. They claim by reading, the goals r met
In reply to @safarnum, @TdiShelton
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Let's make the most prolific askers of questions in a give class the students!
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In reply to @Chemteach201
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Great advice here!
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3:Reframing pre-existing labs. No need to reinvent wheel-but need to be open-ended w/original S discovery that drives instruction
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frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Yes!!! S led means having 5 classes in 5 fantastic spots! Really makes me think on toes- so having 2be well planned & yet flexible
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
True-so much 'schedule' adjusting. Helped to remind me of the authenticity of what was happening. Not good to rush!
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
One skills we can all stand to develop further is our ability to reflect on our own practice. Must make time for this.
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In reply to @TdiShelton, @MrWrinkleSci
anngortonsci
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
I will. And I'll probably also be asking for advice.
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A3: Following-up
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instruction and inquiry with relevant big-picture ?s on assessments
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Agreed-- I also had to be patient & let Ss confront their own misconceptions w/ firsthand experiences & well paced Ts Qs
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In reply to @Steph4Science
jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Learned from
@jaymctighe
2 rethink how Ss demonstrate understanding-using
#UbD
tools 2 id essential questions 2 drive learning
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q3. What changes in your practice were necessary in order for you to shift your planning and design to an
#NGSS
frame?
C3PhysicsO
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Q3: allowing time for Ss to process and changing labs to be an opportunity for discovering insights into phenomena
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Welcome Christine!
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In reply to @cduke62
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Maybe they should then figure out when Cassiopeia appears above their school and then why they might be diff
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
Chemteach201
Jul 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Planning for their questions is also tricky! KOS is huge but their questions in front of peers truly highlight their knowledge.
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In reply to @FredEnde
kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Reflecting in between classes and making changes. The last class gets the best!
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
This has been so true for me. Lots of reflection DAILY & iteration. A very diff approach from earlier in my career
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
support for new practice shouldn't be so hard to find. You'll get it here!
In reply to @anngortonsci
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
This is a great group to ask!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @anngortonsci
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A3: B/c Ss Qs and ideas drive thinking, lessons/units always feel like works in progress. More a mind shift than a practice shift.
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Mr_ArndtEOS
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
For me, I get better w/each class...but ideally each class becomes so individualized that it's hard to compare
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In reply to @kmgill135
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
SO true! :)
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In reply to @kmgill135
C3PhysicsO
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I completely agree. I am working to shift labs to give Ss more latitude to engage in authentic investigations
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In reply to @Mr_ArndtEOS
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Q4 coming up!
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jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A great reminder so everyone can then share the same context
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kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A3: Start with a phenomenon. Use student questions to guide investigations. Allow time for sensemaking
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sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
Good idea. How would you help them do that?
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FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Simple way to show how stories can be told in process? Pick up Rory's Story Cubes. Great game to show how we grow stories as we go
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In reply to @MrWrinkleSci
kmgill135
Jul 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Gotta go to a meeting. Thanks for the chat
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TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q4 Tools like the
#NGSS
Lesson Screener + EQuIP rubric support quality
#NGSS
Design. How have you used these resources?
#NGSSchat
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
River ecosystems b/w home & the Nile would be different,too. Research what the river trip would be like at home & stars they'd see
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Yes. So much to learn from questions asked and how questions asked!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Chemteach201
Suremrsgordon
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A3 Hello, sorry I'm joining late! I slow down, give materials and let them go and let them answer their questions!
#ngsschat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Q3. What changes in your practice were necessary in order for you to shift your planning and design to an
#NGSS
frame?
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Thanks for joining us!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @kmgill135
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Welcome Angela!
#NGSSchat
In reply to @Suremrsgordon
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A4: No. Still learning the available resources. Currently just working in PLCs to develop and design
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q4 Tools like the
#NGSS
Lesson Screener + EQuIP rubric support quality
#NGSS
Design. How have you used these resources?
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Better to slow down for questions to be generated than go too fast to allow for wonderment!
#ngsschat
In reply to @Suremrsgordon
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
First of all, of course the vendor says it's aligned, never trust the vendor about
#NGSS
alignment.
#NGSSchat
In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Enjoy!
#ngsschat
In reply to @kmgill135
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I love the rubric; but, it's not a lesson planning template so I've used to to assess my instruction after the fact.
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4:using 2 evaluate materials as part of the iterative curriculum design process- provides great learning & discourse among T's
#NGSSChat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q4 Tools like the
#NGSS
Lesson Screener + EQuIP rubric support quality
#NGSS
Design. How have you used these resources?
#NGSSchat
Mo_physics
Jul 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
A4: would love resources as my district aligns to
#ngss
#ngsschat
KRScienceLady
Jul 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I have used them as a NGSS curator reviewing resources and writing tips
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Q4 Tools like the
#NGSS
Lesson Screener + EQuIP rubric support quality
#NGSS
Design. How have you used these resources?
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Great pnt-criteria in these tools designed in partnership w/ Framework & standards writers can help determine high quality design
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In reply to @safarnum, @sdotger
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
Second, the story mentions the phenomena, but the PE asks S's to do so much more (see image). When did they do what the PE says?
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
ElemSciTchr
Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A4: Not yet. Time has been major factor for me (teaching all the sci to 5 grades). Goal for year is to revisit 1-2 units .
#NGSSchat
frizzlerichard
Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A4: I just wish there was more 🕑 to use them as a lesson was planned so it was easier to adapt. I'd benefit from more PD w/both
#NGSSchat
FredEnde
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
How would you suggest those new to planning for
#NGSS
put these resources into practice?
#NGSSchat
In reply to @KRScienceLady
safarnum
Jul 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
So the question to those T's is, when did the S's do the performance? When was that assessed? Nothing wrong with the phenom itself
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In reply to @sdotger, @TdiShelton
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Here are the tools
https://t.co/Ode8mzNQSA
https://t.co/x5dHRCU0z8
#NGSSchat
Mo_physics
Jul 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Thank you
#NGSSchat
In reply to @TdiShelton
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Q5 As we take wrap up our chat-- pls share your own fave resources for
#NGSS
Design
#NGSSchat
jaclyn_austin
Jul 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@TdiShelton
@FredEnde
for an opportunity to
#NGSSChat
as always!
sdotger
Jul 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
#NGSSchat
We have to be careful. Not all materials are created equally. I don't think the answer is to never trust.
In reply to @safarnum, @TdiShelton
MrWrinkleSci
Jul 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
A5: I need insight here! Don't have much to share.
#NGSSchat
TdiShelton
- Moderator
Jul 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Q5 As we take wrap up our chat-- pls share your own fave resources for
#NGSS
Design
#NGSSchat