#IEedchat Archive
#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday May 16, 2016
10:30 PM EDT
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Q0: Introduce yourself and look at your browser history. What was the entry for your last Google search?
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Chad-Tech TOSA checking in. Last Google search: "mac office 14.3.5 update keeps popping up" Bane of my existence! :o(
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is always reading my mind this might go along with tonight
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A0: Kate, H.S. ELA teacher & last search was "campgrounds near hot springs south dakota"
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Robert Guzman Tech Coach , my last search was a shoot out in Los Angeles in April.
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Welcome sounds like a good vacation to me1
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A0: Judy from HHS ELA ha ha "search operators"
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Oh it will be. Yellowstone, South Dakota, and Utah for dinosaurs. Educational for all
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Bill from Beaumont, Instructional Coach, Last search "Leadership and Science Practices"
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Q1: Ss hardly ever ask their Ts for help with internet searches -Alan November. List challenges faced by Ss with internet research
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A0) Tom from Arroyo Grande. Mine was "how to keep teaching into my 100s."
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A1: increasing and limiting their search terms; rewording to yield different results
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A1: Ss can be typing the wrong key words and get something totally off the tracks
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Ss don't know quality source, National Inquirer is not quality! https://t.co/LpU6zl4xPh
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Q1: Ss hardly ever ask their Ts for help with internet searches -Alan November. List challenges faced by Ss with internet research
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a1) Most of my students, and my kids, have almost no idea how to dial in a search.
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A1: internet searches are sometimes like putting a dixie cup under a waterfall. So much information pouring out
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A0: Jen I teach 9/10 ELA and my last search was the Bonita Unified SD page .
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A0: Jed - Tech TOSA / Math Geek recent search: Mini Trebuchat plans
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A1 Ss tend to not know key terms. Being able to ID "what" to look for is probably biggest challenge
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Yes, what this handsome gentleman said
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A1 Finding primary sources they actually have access to.
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Yes!, all about iterations of rewording and going deeper
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YES! So many primary sources are off limits, yet we want them to use primary sources.
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A1: Key words and credible sites
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If they just used some basic search skills, boom their life would change and information will come flooding
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Search Challenge 1: what would you put in Google to find credible scientific sources on the Jaguar? (the cat not the car!)
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A1: copyright, citation,
remixing is okay, pretending you're 100% original is not.
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And not being distracted by "squirrels". My own searches often lead me on interesting tangents.
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Challenge 1: Jaguar car science
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I resemble that remark! https://t.co/FdLVMaejuw
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And not being distracted by "squirrels". My own searches often lead me on interesting tangents.
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like the wikipedia random article page.
Rabbit hole with no end
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Great point! How might we remove these squirrel opportunities for Ss?
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Very true! Happens to me as well. https://t.co/XJylhhvnvl
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And not being distracted by "squirrels". My own searches often lead me on interesting tangents.
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A1: Ss have a difficult time finding reliable sources...
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literally a life skill at this point
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Ari did you just gamify this?
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It's so weird that what you say is so true
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Don't know if we should remove them. Perhaps teach Ss how to deal with them? Use a Padlet to store for later.
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Primary I'm thinking for staying on focus w/learning...but it's a great point
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A0: Tom Ashley tech coach High. I searched YouTube to see how to re-glue a detached outersole of a running shoe.
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right, how often do we use this everyday
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We should allow freedom, but have due dates and standards so we can get done what we need to do as Ts.
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Q2: List the most useful search operators we can teach Ss that yield high quality results
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You need to check out the Geox shoes
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I can't stay focused, but if I have a threat hanging over my head, then I'm good.
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And evaluating if a source was reliable. Would they know it if they saw it? How?
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I don't think I could even keep track, it's so much.
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A2: the minus sign and site: are search tools every student should know
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Absolutely. My Ss may not have time to explore them right now, but I also want to encourage curiosity.
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A2:I like the $ when searching for certain things, it will show me the prices
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A2: Not my strength, but I'll search Google Search tips and use those. Recommend that Ss who are having trouble do the same.
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The ADD nerd in me has grown substantially since the advent of the browser. I'm a clickin' fool!!
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A2: a - , site: , advanced search
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I was just going to say site
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A2: I keep a list near my desk, However it does me no good at the moment.
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I was going to say advanced search as well.
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A2: quotes, AND or + sign, open ended adjectives, key terms in synonyms, chocolate is always good https://t.co/00kjiDF5cP
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site is so cool, we need them on academic sites: .org .edu .gov
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Search Challenge 2: what would you put in Google to find a British perspective on the American Revolution?
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Thanks, Chad! I checked out your website the other day. Tons of great stuff for all!
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SC2: "british perspective of american revolution" I want to check out 'Iron Tears'
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A1 being able to differentiate between actual content, and bait. Incr numbers of pseudo articles can easily fool Ss.
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awesome I googled search operators and Alan November resources
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A2 part 2: I'm also a big fan of naming filetypes
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Search Challenge 2: "American Revolution" site:uk
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That is definitely a keeper,
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I like chocolate and quotes
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What I'm learning here is that I don't use Google search effectively & my PLN is amazing to learn from.
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Can't have one without the other
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I'm huge fan of Google slides,
reminded me before of how many files out there have .ppt
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That's pretty neat, thanks for sharing.
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I had the same idea! If you use it, let me know how it goes.
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SC2: "American Revolution"
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So narrows it down! One of the best methods
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Q3: Alan November says we must equip our Ss w/ search skills that will enable critical analysis. How can we do this?
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I'm super picky about naming conventions for digital files
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A3: ask them a Q, brnstrm, ask how to solve it, brnstrm, try somethings, repeat til answers found, then ask how we got there
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A3: provide some of the awesome resources listed in tonight's chat to our Ss. Start a search challenge in your class
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Sorry I missed the first part od tonight. We had our last Monday today. Finals start tomorrow. I will miss my students
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A3: Make Ss find the answers - for everything! - and justify why their source is valid
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Me too, what are your criteria
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A3:Creating Q's like the challenges you asked us to search, we can have Ss list Pros and Cons and discuss their view as a class.
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A3: we need to push the question/thought of how relevant and usable is this source? Break the habit of just using b/c it's there.
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Q3: give your Ss a test w/ the requirement they must use Google. Tests where u can find all the answers from Google = bad test
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A2 -term, โquotesโ site: filetype:
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A3) We all need to be able to check the credibility of our info and be slow to disseminate something prior to checking credibility
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I'm using this idea for my Ss this week. Thanks!
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Awesome, I am happy to share.
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A3: give a test requiring google search. tests where u can find all the answers from a google search = bad test
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Any final thoughts on searching the internet?
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Preach! Probably low level DOK too! https://t.co/OXGljRXNu9
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A3: give a test requiring google search. tests where u can find all the answers from a google search = bad test
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A3: I'm all in for we really have to do this; credible sources/search tools plus digital citizenship no time to waste
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who won the search challenge?
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. win the Search Challenge!
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I team up with school librarian to show my students better ways to narrow their search and to find valid sources.
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My Ss and I just discussed how we do/don't do this. Awesome insights from the Ss.
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