#ProDriven Archive

The mission of this chat is to empower ALL educators that strive to embark on their own learning journeys.

Tuesday December 11, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Please take a moment to share a little bit about yourself (who you are, what subject you teach, and what your experience with co-teaching has been so far). #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:00 PM EST
    What up, everyone? Jarod Bormann here in Iowa. #ProDriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:01 PM EST
    My name is Meg, I teach social studies and am an instructional coach. I support co-teaching partnerships and have had some experience co-teaching. #ProDriven
  • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:01 PM EST
    When I taught Kindergarten I had a co-teacher(s), but that's been a few years ago. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:01 PM EST
    My experience with co-teaching has been very little. I went to a full day training on it, but never really got the opportunity in the classroom. However, I co-facilitate a lot of PD’s with my colleagues. Does that count? #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Hey, Kris. Always glad to see you hear :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Kris, so glad you could join us for tonight's chat. #ProDriven
    • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:01 PM EST
      When I taught Kindergarten I had a co-teacher(s), but that's been a few years ago. #ProDriven
      In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Thanks, Kathi! I’m pretty psyched too :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @KathiStephan_
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I'm surprised you had co-teachers at the kindergarten level. I haven't found very many elementary school teachers who have co-taught before. I'm glad you got that experience. #ProDriven
    In reply to @PreK33
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Yeah, usually it’s paras, but that’s not true co-teaching, right? #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @PreK33
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:03 PM EST
    It's a start in the right direction. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
    My fellow colleague, @breabaxter, runs a course on co-teaching. Maybe she’ll join us tonight for the chat. #ProDriven
  • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:04 PM EST
    She didn't like to get messy and I did. It was a match made in heaven! I'd do the messy stuff and she'd do the neater stuff. It was great! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    With my newfound insights into co-teaching, I wanted to share what I’ve done through staff presentations in my district, becoming an instructional model in co-teaching for my district, and starting a blog #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    https://t.co/ytD7FpaRlK to help others outside my district. I’m excited to also share and get ideas through this chat, but am not a huge twitter user, so I apologize in advance. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I thought I was “co-teaching” since 2005, but I didn’t really start co-teaching and experiencing all of the benefits of it until 2017. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Well, one book I read had a whole chapter about co-teaching with paras, but all the definitions I've found would say that's team-teaching versus co-teaching #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @PreK33
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I'd love to hear her thoughts. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @breabaxter
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Go ahead and invite those educators on Twitter who may be interested in joining our discussion on co-teaching. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
    For me, true co-teaching started when I tore down my flawed ideas of what co-teaching was. I replaced them with a solid definition of what it really is for a strong foundation. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
    It's awesome to have someone in the room who thinks differently than I do. #ProDriven
    In reply to @PreK33
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
    I see. Seems nuanced, but I’m sure there are some differences. Good to know. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @PreK33
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
    NICE!!! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Jaime from NJ 6th grade ELA/Science. We teach in a team of three. Two regular ed and one special education teacher on the team. In my 18 years of teaching I have had some form of co- teaching every year. #ProDriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
    A1: Co-teaching for me involves co-planning, co-instructing and co-assessing with another certified teacher. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
      For me, true co-teaching started when I tore down my flawed ideas of what co-teaching was. I replaced them with a solid definition of what it really is for a strong foundation. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:08 PM EST
    What up, Jaime? With your experience, you’ll be able to add some good discussion tonight. #ProDriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:08 PM EST
    That sounds awesome! What a great environment for your students. #ProDriven
    • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Jaime from NJ 6th grade ELA/Science. We teach in a team of three. Two regular ed and one special education teacher on the team. In my 18 years of teaching I have had some form of co- teaching every year. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1: It’s a true partnership with co-planning learning and utilizing each other in supplemental small group and whole group instruction. ??? #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
      For me, true co-teaching started when I tore down my flawed ideas of what co-teaching was. I replaced them with a solid definition of what it really is for a strong foundation. #ProDriven
  • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1:When two or more educators share a classroom & provide teaching to a group of students. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:09 PM EST
    That’s the sound of a true Professionally Driven educator :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Oh…I didn’t even think about the assessing part. #ProDriven
    In reply to @MegFrideres
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: My old definition was just two people working together in a class. This wasn’t totally wrong but it lead to mostly me not doing anything differently except having another adult in the room like an associate. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I will admit, I haven’t had the opportunity to observe co-teaching a whole lot. I am interested in seeing it in action. #ProDriven
    In reply to @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: I was wasting a valuable resource in not including the other professional in much other than letting him or her know what my plans were for the day. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Right. And I think that’s where I currently am starting with my understanding, which I know isn’t completely correct. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: Authentic co-teaching involves co-planning, co-instructing, and co-assessing where both teachers are on an equal playing field for each item like @MegFrideres said. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
    One question/issue that I’ve often heard and am currently working through is what if one of the co-teaching partners is not familiar with the content? For example, I teach language arts whereas my current partner is a special education teacher with an art background. #ProDriven
  • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Our son had this when he was a freshman. It was the history teacher and the ELA teacher. I love the concept and how they tied the history and stories about the time periods together! #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @oedgotfacts
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1: Teachers working together towards a common goal. It isn't my students and your students. They are all OUR students. Equal teach time equal relationship building. Sharing responsibilities and supporting one another. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:06 PM EST
      For me, true co-teaching started when I tore down my flawed ideas of what co-teaching was. I replaced them with a solid definition of what it really is for a strong foundation. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Umm…I am very guilty of this. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
    This sounds like what co-teaching should be. #ProDriven
    • PreK33 Dec 11 @ 9:13 PM EST
      Our son had this when he was a freshman. It was the history teacher and the ELA teacher. I love the concept and how they tied the history and stories about the time periods together! #ProDriven
      In reply to @jbormann3, @oedgotfacts
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
    It's amazing to see ALL students in the classroom benefit from successful co-teaching partnerships where teachers utilize various co-teaching strategies (station teaching, parallel teaching, team teaching, etc.). #prodriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Love it. There are so many connections between history and ELA. #ProDriven
    In reply to @PreK33, @jbormann3
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:15 PM EST
    YES!!!! Brea is in the HOUSE!!! She’ll definitely be able to add to the conversation :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter, @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A2: I start with tasks that may not be content specific such as helping ask clarifying questions or help model note taking for students. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
      One question/issue that I’ve often heard and am currently working through is what if one of the co-teaching partners is not familiar with the content? For example, I teach language arts whereas my current partner is a special education teacher with an art background. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Um…You just listed three types of teaching that I need to Google quick. BRB ;) #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter, @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: I modified a lesson plan template from Sonia Heineman Kunkel that I think works well for gen ed and sped to plan together #ProDriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
    I have been fortunate enough to see some of our co-teaching partnerships use station teaching and parallel teaching. Both lead to a high level of engagement. #ProDriven
    • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:14 PM EST
      It's amazing to see ALL students in the classroom benefit from successful co-teaching partnerships where teachers utilize various co-teaching strategies (station teaching, parallel teaching, team teaching, etc.). #prodriven
      In reply to @jbormann3, @PreK33, @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
    GREAT question! Don’t know if I can add anything to this one. I would assume the one with less content knowledge could still add value with Instructional Practices knowledge or Technology Use knowledge. #TPaCK #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
      One question/issue that I’ve often heard and am currently working through is what if one of the co-teaching partners is not familiar with the content? For example, I teach language arts whereas my current partner is a special education teacher with an art background. #ProDriven
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: planning is key. Allowing the other teacher to lead even if you know the content better. Strong Co-teaching is a relationship built with trust. Be encouraging. If I lead in delivery my co-teacher can lead in conferencing or reading aloud. Share the workload #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:12 PM EST
      One question/issue that I’ve often heard and am currently working through is what if one of the co-teaching partners is not familiar with the content? For example, I teach language arts whereas my current partner is a special education teacher with an art background. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Do share! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
    I have GOT to see this in action. I’m intrigued by what kind of access to higher levels of Blooms of DOK can occur in a co-teaching space. #ProDriven
    In reply to @MegFrideres
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Another big issue I've seen is that sometimes partners are reluctant to work together because they've been "assigned" together or really aren't sure what the sped teacher can contribute #ProDriven
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Content knowledge is important, but so is pedagogy and technology. The co-teacher could offer strategies in those areas to help learners engage with the content. #prodriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:20 PM EST
    @breabaxter is this pretty much what we do when planning for workshops? Are we essentially co-teaching? #ProDriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307, @breabaxter
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:20 PM EST
    My current co-teacher partner is amazing at creating graphic organizers to help students grasp the concepts we're working on as well as having many other talents. #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Communication is key. Both members need to share their expectations of working together and expectations of the students in the classroom they share. Each partner brings specific talents to the partnership. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Another big issue I've seen is that sometimes partners are reluctant to work together because they've been "assigned" together or really aren't sure what the sped teacher can contribute #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A3: I would assume…value each other’s strengths in the planning, facilitating, and assessing of learning. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Another big issue I've seen is that sometimes partners are reluctant to work together because they've been "assigned" together or really aren't sure what the sped teacher can contribute #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:21 PM EST
    From what I've read, the difference is if you're doing the other components of co-assessing and co-instructing as well as the planning. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @MrsStaub307, @breabaxter
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A1: for me, co-teaching means collaborating with other teachers and then allowing each member of the collaborating team to teach a particular lesson/concept to the students. (I know what I want to say, but not able to properly say it at the moment) #ProDriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: I would think that the two educators would work best together if their philosophies on learning were closely aligned. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Another big issue I've seen is that sometimes partners are reluctant to work together because they've been "assigned" together or really aren't sure what the sped teacher can contribute #ProDriven
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A3: It's a long year if you don't plan to move forward in a positive manner. We meet daily, plan together and talk out any issues that could or will arise. Communication is extremely important #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Another big issue I've seen is that sometimes partners are reluctant to work together because they've been "assigned" together or really aren't sure what the sped teacher can contribute #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2: might be a good idea to let that individual enter in where they feel comfortable and have some interest. I think that would be a great start to building capacity. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:22 PM EST
    Can I get a #TPaCK!? #ProDriven
    • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:19 PM EST
      Content knowledge is important, but so is pedagogy and technology. The co-teacher could offer strategies in those areas to help learners engage with the content. #prodriven
      In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Tracy from California joining late. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
    I would think we’re pretty close then. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @MrsStaub307, @breabaxter
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A3: Ultimately it is best if both educators choose the partnership but sometimes partnerships are assigned due to student needs. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:23 PM EST
    That's what my new partner and I have been doing this year, and it's working out pretty well. It's definitely not my place to push her into anything. #ProDriven
    In reply to @rchids
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Absolutely! In our workshops, we facilitate adult learning through co-teaching strategies. I always appreciate the various perspectives at the table and bouncing ideas off one another in the planning phase. #prodriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @MrsStaub307
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Welcome Tracy! #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Sounds like a true unity of teaching powers! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @breabaxter
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A1. My definition if co-teaching is, two teachers in the room at the same time, providing instruction. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: the person you are co-teaching with may not be your same grade teaching partner. I have rarely co-taught with the person next door. I think the best co-teaching relationships are built with people you trust and have common interests with. #ProDriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Love this idea @breabaxter! #ProDriven
    • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:24 PM EST
      Absolutely! In our workshops, we facilitate adult learning through co-teaching strategies. I always appreciate the various perspectives at the table and bouncing ideas off one another in the planning phase. #prodriven
      In reply to @jbormann3, @MrsStaub307
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A3: @MegFrideres shared these questions with our building's co-teachers that I thought were very helpful in developing the relationship. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
    I can see that. #ProDriven
    In reply to @MegFrideres
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
    So I change my answer to Q1…I DO co-teaching :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter, @MrsStaub307
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
    Once you've established your relationship, co-planning is the foundation for everything else. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:27 PM EST
    MEG ROCKS! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @MegFrideres
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I agree! The most successful co-teaching partnerships are grounded in positive relationships and trust. #prodriven
    In reply to @rchids
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2. For me it can be as unique as using each persons skills and knowledge to fully surround the content. If an Art teacher can use that to explain English, awesome! #ProDriven
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2:My best experiences co-teaching were with a Special Ed teacher because the strategies she brought into the classroom were different than the way I would teach a concept providing strategies that would benefit all learners. #prodriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:29 PM EST
    I teach a cultural geography course and have co-taught a lesson with our art teacher. It was so much fun for teachers and students. #ProDriven
    • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:28 PM EST
      A2. For me it can be as unique as using each persons skills and knowledge to fully surround the content. If an Art teacher can use that to explain English, awesome! #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A2: I have loved co-teaching with special education teachers because they look at everything from a different lens. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4: Like I said, I never co-planned with the SpEd teacher. However, I ALWAYS co-plan with my colleagues when planning for a workshop/PD for adult learners. The plans always feel more solid with multiple minds at work. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
      Once you've established your relationship, co-planning is the foundation for everything else. #ProDriven
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3. Any co-anything takes patience, understanding, a common goal, and numerous other skills to be able to work together effectively. #ProDriven
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A4: My team plans on our prep period but we are often also planning at lunch, in the doorway and through group text. #prodriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:26 PM EST
      Once you've established your relationship, co-planning is the foundation for everything else. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
    A4: this where the use of technology can be quite beneficial. The use of social media (eg Twitter, Voxer) and Video conferencing can allow you to communicate at your leisure. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Yes, I wish I would have taken more advantage of having that expertise in my room. I feel guilty for not now. #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    When we know better we do better. #ProDriven
    • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
      Yes, I wish I would have taken more advantage of having that expertise in my room. I feel guilty for not now. #ProDriven
      In reply to @chillmanisu
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    After teaching a co-teaching class for educators, I quickly learned common planning time is rare. To overcome this barrier, technology has been instrumental! Planning on a collaborative document allows both teachers to have input and planning time is more focused. #prodriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: When co-teaching, to keep the relationship strong, you must work on it constantly. It becomes like a marriage. My old co-teaching partner and I could finish each other's sentences. #prodriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A4: Last year, my partner and I just had a running Google Doc. for when we couldn't meet together in person. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    Nailed it! #ProDriven
    • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:30 PM EST
      A4: this where the use of technology can be quite beneficial. The use of social media (eg Twitter, Voxer) and Video conferencing can allow you to communicate at your leisure. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
    This can be built in if you are “assigned” to work with someone but there is nothing better than co-teaching with someone that you are already cool with and can have honest conversations/feedback. #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter
  • J_grossNCSD Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Sorry to be jumping in late looks like a great #ProDriven chat thus far
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Once you've co-planned, you have to implement your plans. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    YEP! #ProDriven
    • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:31 PM EST
      After teaching a co-teaching class for educators, I quickly learned common planning time is rare. To overcome this barrier, technology has been instrumental! Planning on a collaborative document allows both teachers to have input and planning time is more focused. #prodriven
      In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Yes! I always appreciate the feedback and ideas of co-workers :) #prodriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Glad you could join us @J_grossNCSD #ProDriven
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A4. Co-planning is allowing each teacher to be able to lead and support. This is where the communication really comes into play. Finding the balance that works for the kids as well as the adults. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
    I agree completely. I've had both experience and they've both worked out because we've had the desire to make things work for our Ss. #ProDriven
    In reply to @rchids, @breabaxter
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Welcome. #ProDriven
    In reply to @J_grossNCSD
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
    It’s never too late, Justin :) Jump on in. #ProDriven
    In reply to @J_grossNCSD
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: @kdruvenga was a great co-teaching partner! She provided so many different strategies that I would never think of! #prodriven
    In reply to @kdruvenga
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Don’t feel bad, I jumped in 15 min after #ProDriven started but so happy I did so!
    In reply to @J_grossNCSD
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A5: I would assume it’s utilizing both in small group instruction, so those students really get what they need. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: One thing our building has challenged us co-teachers to do this year is try out a co-teaching model we've never done before in order to push us. What models have you tried out? #ProDriven
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: when someone walks in the room it is not evident who is leading the class. Both members taking an active role. #ProDriven
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5: What co-teaching looks like in the classroom could change from day to day to based on the learning goals. This would also be discussed during planning time on what the structure would look like. #prodriven
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5. If I were to have it, I would like to see alternating between lead and support roles. If only one leads varying viewpoints are missing. In a grander context, at the upper grades isn't there the possibility of co-teaching with the students? #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Just a general and probably dumb question…is co-teaching more common in smaller schools or bigger schools? Just curious, because from and admin perspective (which I’m not one) it sounds expensive to have to paid educators teaching in the same space. Help. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A5: it would be seamless. It would be awesome if it were face to face and blended (via hangouts or podcast) #ProDriven - Reminds me of my numeracy coach @tawnya_dosman - she could walk in at any moment and the kids and I would roll with it. The trust and respect is there.
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Yes! And students should also see the teachers as equals and respect them both. #prodriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
    S/O to Kristi! #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu, @kdruvenga
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
    We’re always glad to have you, Rolland :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @rchids, @J_grossNCSD
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5: Implementation is never problem free but should work pretty well with good co-planning. Reflection after the lesson is also key. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Good point. Look at context and circumstances. #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I don't know. I work at a small school now, but I attended a large school and we had co-teachers at both. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • J_grossNCSD Dec 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A5: from a district lens finding examples for teachers to see of course-teaching done well can be a challenge. Which is why @oedgotfacts is such a great example her and her co-teacher have sought out their own learning and are constantly adapting as they learn #ProDriven
  • hoffmanteambret Dec 11 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Don't think it's a big/small school thing, more about the ratio of IEP's in a class. Most schools that I've been in use CoT as a way to satisfy IEP requirements. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Putting this one in the back pocket. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • J_grossNCSD Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A5: that should say co-teaching need to proof before I post #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    That is a great question! Having worked in small and large schools I have to say that it has depended on relationships and admin expectations. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    As @J_grossNCSD said, it's not always easy to find people who do it well because it's a tricky process. #ProDriven
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    I wonder if a lot depends on the school and philosophy of the leaders? #prodriven
    In reply to @jbormann3
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Ahhh…that makes sense. Thanks for help on that one. #ProDriven
    In reply to @hoffmanteambret
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I bet this is true too, Brea. I would think for CoT to truly be effective, it takes solid support from admin. #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
    I want to add that it’s awesome for the kids to see the male and female teachers working together. #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter, @MrsStaub307
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Thanks pal! #ProDriven is a great chat. Always feel welcome here.
    In reply to @jbormann3, @J_grossNCSD
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:42 PM EST
    This is true, our principal has supported building a program to support co-teaching partnerships including educational pieces and the ability to visit other districts to see it in action. #ProDriven
    • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:40 PM EST
      I bet this is true too, Brea. I would think for CoT to truly be effective, it takes solid support from admin. #ProDriven
      In reply to @breabaxter
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A6. I would be a different person if I expected to always get my way. I have paraprofessionals in my room, and their ideas are often better than mine. It is a give and take classroom. What is best for kids it what matters. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
    @breabaxter @B_Berns and myself have had to be FLEXIBLE in our planning, because we know it will rarely go according to plan when we go to facilitate. We have altered plans on the fly when facilitating. Brea has gotten much more tolerable of me when it comes to this :) #ProDriven
  • J_grossNCSD Dec 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
    @jbormann3 I made the mistake of just throwing our special education teachers into classrooms during periods they weren’t already providing direct instruction, which was frustrating to staff. They had to figure it out as they went, should have done better #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
    A6: if there is a good relationship there then I think it is addressed in a debrief via what went well and what needs to be worked on. Not a good relationship - the classroom teacher may go back and redo and it may cause a rift in the co-teaching relationship 😞 #ProDriven
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Reflection is key! Taking time to reflect and determine the barrier(s) helps make sure the situation doesn't happen again. When I'm facilitating with colleagues, I gain so much from our reflective conversations at the end of the day and feedback from participants. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @J_grossNCSD
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:44 PM EST
    It was a good place to start, though, because without it, some of those relationships wouldn't have formed like the one I have now with one of my favorite co-teaching partners. #ProDriven
    In reply to @J_grossNCSD, @jbormann3
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A6: Just like the highs and lows of a marriage you have to continue to work, compromise, and do what is best for the kids #prodriven
  • MrsStaub307 Dec 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A6: Talk it out. How can we do better. What would work better next time if a lesson and be open and honest it is so important to communicate. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I will second this! I really enjoy reflecting afterwards with colleagues to see how we can improve. #ProDriven
    • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:43 PM EST
      Reflection is key! Taking time to reflect and determine the barrier(s) helps make sure the situation doesn't happen again. When I'm facilitating with colleagues, I gain so much from our reflective conversations at the end of the day and feedback from participants. #ProDriven
      In reply to @oedgotfacts, @J_grossNCSD
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Love the analogy to marriage #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Always need to gauge the audience. Can't move on if discussion and higher-order thinking are taking place! #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @B_Berns
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
    #ProDriven
    In reply to @breabaxter, @B_Berns
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Yes! This is why it's so important to have a strong relationship built on trust. #ProDriven
    In reply to @MrsStaub307
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A6: I love to reflect with my partner, but I've also enjoyed utilizing our instructional coaches in these conversations because sometimes we miss things being in the middle of it all. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:47 PM EST
    I REALLY like this strategy! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Some teachers are reluctant to co-teach because it is so much work, and the potential for problems are there. #ProDriven
  • MegFrideres - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
    So good to hear about your positive experience @marge_t17. Also so proud to have a former student choose to be an educator! #ProDriven
    • marge_t17 Dec 11 @ 9:46 PM EST
      My host teacher and I parallel teach our math block and it’s been going really well so far. Smaller groups has made it possible to increase differentiation and engagement. Plus I get to practice planning and leading full blocks and analyzing student data to plan next steps.
      In reply to @MegFrideres
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Love that you are adding the instructional coaches in this process too as they can give you a fresh perspective. #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A7: I would think the hardest part, at least for me it would be, when differing philosophies on learning or facilitating. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:48 PM EST
      Some teachers are reluctant to co-teach because it is so much work, and the potential for problems are there. #ProDriven
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A7: The biggest struggle is when one of the co-teachers is absent. After co-teaching for awhile, you become dependent on each other and know that a lesson or activity would have been stronger with the other perspective #prodriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A7: The biggest struggle for my partner and I is how to assess students. Our building is SBG, but since she's a sped, she doesn't grade the same way. We were able to have some great discussions about grading and assessments though that I never would have had otherwise #ProDriven
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A7. Most of the time, getting out of the way and just trusting each other has worked. If I had all the answers when would I learn? #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:52 PM EST
    I agree. I'm teaching a class this semester that I used to co-teach and it's SO difficult! #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Yes! I can imagine this would be the hardest part. I wouldn’t;t even know where to begin. Is this something you cover in your course, @breabaxter ? #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts, @breabaxter
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A7 cont: Like when @kdruvenga went on maternity leave. I felt like my other half was missing. #ProDriven
    In reply to @kdruvenga
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Of course it's hard work, but there are a lot of good things about co-teaching, which is why we still do it. #ProDriven
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A7: biggest struggle for me has been the relationship. If I don’t get along with the other teacher(s) it’s tense and not enjoyable. I try to find common ground - how can I get to know this person better? What can I disclose that may cause reciprocation to build trust? #ProDriven
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I feel for you! #ProDriven
    In reply to @oedgotfacts
  • rchids Dec 11 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A8: increased knowledge, capacity, and experience working with others. Great professional relationships and connections that end up going beyond the 4 walls of your school. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A8: For me it really has been the planning process. I truly feel the plans are so much more solid. Also, I love it when my colleagues give a perspective or idea in the middle of a workshop on how we could quickly modify based on our learners. #ProDriven
    • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:53 PM EST
      Of course it's hard work, but there are a lot of good things about co-teaching, which is why we still do it. #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:56 PM EST
    It might be useful to have a conversation with an instructional guide around your core beliefs to work through them with questions like the attached. Or, sometimes relationships just take time to develop. #ProDriven
    In reply to @rchids
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Increased knowledge, YES! I have learned some great strategies from my colleagues when co-facilitating. #ProDriven
    In reply to @rchids
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A8: I absolutely love planning with a partner because I know I don't have all the answers or know the best way to do everything for our kids. #ProDriven
  • chillmanisu Dec 11 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A8: There are so many benefits to co-teaching: The impact on students by giving them multiple perspectives and smaller groups to gaining a close friendship with your co-teacher. #prodriven
  • breabaxter Dec 11 @ 9:57 PM EST
    We briefly discuss assessing when sharing philosophies to build the co-teaching relationship. The course includes coaching conversations and the topic could be explored further during that time, especially if it is a struggle. #ProDriven
    In reply to @jbormann3, @oedgotfacts
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A8: My co-teaching partner and I surveyed our students at the end of each unit, and their feedback was usually positive about having two teachers in the room helping them. #ProDriven
  • jbormann3 - Moderator Dec 11 @ 9:58 PM EST
    I don’t know…would you say we’re friends, @breabaxter & @B_Berns? :) #ProDriven
    In reply to @chillmanisu, @breabaxter, @B_Berns
  • tracyscottkelly Dec 11 @ 9:58 PM EST
    A8. Honest feedback. Both Ts benefit with it! #ProDriven
  • oedgotfacts Dec 11 @ 9:58 PM EST
    To wrap things up, I hope you will advocate for co-teaching in your own spheres of influence. #ProDriven