#edchatie Archive


Monday April 24, 2017
3:30 PM EDT

  • levdavidovic Apr 24 @ 3:30 PM EDT
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    Welcome to tonight’s #edchatie discussion. As usual, before we begin, please introduce yourself + add the #edchatie hashtag in all tweets
  • Britannica_IE Apr 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    Laurie @Britannica_IE joining tonight's #edchatie. I hope everyone had a lovely break and holiday!
  • HanrahanAndy Apr 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Andy a primary principal , was up in Belfast v quiet INTO congress #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • SeniorInfantRed Apr 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    Such a necessary discussion to have. 1st time congress attendee and was left feeling angry and upset by the whole affair. #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    Jana, primary, NQT rep for D14 of INTO. Attended Congress for the last four years. Very quiet in here this evening! #edchatie
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    Kevin here a Teaching Principal home from annual INTO Congress in Belfast #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    #edchatie Sandra primary. I have never attended a Congress. Viewed webcasts.
  • wdryan2000 Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Will, Primary Principal, first time attendee @ INTO conference #EdChatIE
  • MaireadDB Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Mairéad, Teacher, INTO activist for many years. Worst Congress of my life. #EdChatIE
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    #edchatie Colm Gogarty, Primary teacher. I put this topic forward because I was shocked at what a waste of time my Congress was.
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    Some gems at Congresses since I first attended. Mostly a lot of wasted time though. Even after Rule changes in 2015 to speed up #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    #edchatie observation of Congress is that same topics come up yr after yr. Suggests no or little progress on issues e.g. Assaults!
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    Fred Boss, 2nd level art teacher, currently on antibiotics. Never attended a Congress so interested to know more from others #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    #edchatie what made it a waste of time?
    In reply to @GogartyColm
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    Composite motion that made it to the clár this yr - so weak. Extremely strong motions, well-worded, within rule, put aside. Why? #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    Full topic for tonight's #edchatie is quite long. Here's the 1st part -> "Discuss changing how our union Congresses work for teachers." 1/3
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    2/3 " INTO, ASTI and TUI teachers need to ensure their issues are sorted properly." #edchatie
  • HanrahanAndy Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    There is never enough time given to motions which are supposed to determine Union policy #edchatie
    In reply to @fboss
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    #edchatie Can 'home run' motions be passed prior to Congress floor? Seem such a drain on precious time. Save it for real debates.
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    3/3 "Traditions, rules and regs are slow and frequently cumbersome." #edchatie
  • de_Bruner Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    #edchatie Michael, Post-primary, attended 3rd union convention this year. Spoke on issue of non-permanent teachers and an OECD report.
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    I think the rule is minimum of 15 minutes' speaking time per motion. President's discretion thereafter.Rule change would be needed #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm
  • wdryan2000 Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Little or no progress made on anything significant during congress. Status quo rules! #EdChatIE
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Kevin here a Teaching Principal.I have attended the last 15 INTO Congresses.Motions are passed that make conditions better #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    And some of them are skipped over entirely, even when there'd hardly be an argument against them... Mind-boggling #edchatie
    In reply to @HanrahanAndy, @fboss
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Can a motion re: standing orders be put for next meetings? I hear ASTI or TUI voted to suspend their SO, but not sure details #edchatie
    In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    #edchatie Peter McCabe INTO activist Principal Teacher arriving a little later than intended...heavy traffic on the internet!
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    #edchatie Think that main function of Congress is a PR exercise for CEC . Know that people have gone to network.
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    #edchatie ok default to normal Hurricane Heffernan mode and kick the hornets nest. Are unions no place for young teachers?
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    #edchatie surely an app for branches would mean a speedy vote on all issues. If branch agrees by over 2/3, the motion passes w/o debate
  • de_Bruner Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    ASTI did - unprecedented. I was there #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm, @heartrattle, @dhubhda
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    you mean like clickers !!! #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    It'd need to come from outside Dublin if so, we're already seen as the bold children. #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm, @dhubhda
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    There should be a limit on the number of speakers on motions.Listening to fourteen speakers for any motion is crazy #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    If the poor attendance is anything to go by (approx. 50% to 60% most of the time), networking is indeed the main motivation. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    #edchatie Feel that leadership don't like people with strong opinions that challenge them.
    In reply to @heartrattle, @GogartyColm
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    #edchatie INTO Congress 2017 reminded me of a very large staff meeting where much is discussed but very little actually happpens
  • HanrahanAndy Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Nothing worse than hearing 15 people say the same thing over and over. Pass it and move on #edchatie
    In reply to @heartrattle, @fboss
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    #edchatie methinks to quote Shakespeare “I am Sir Oracle, And when I ope my lips, let no dog bark!"
    In reply to @FoleyKev
  • wdryan2000 Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    How do standing orders actually come to agreement on what goes on the clár? They basically dicatate union policy. Very powerful #EdChatIE
  • KomeeraPillay Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    Komeera,primary teacher,1st time attendee.Left feeling disheartened. Money&time wasted on bureaucracy. I didn't feel represented. #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    V frustrating. 30-45 mins of debate (typically not even debate as all speak in favour) for motions w/out strong instruction to CEC #edchatie
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • niamhmurraysing Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    I thought Richard Bruton's 'speech' was very ineffectual! Nice man but no substance when it comes to Education.....am I too harsh? #edchatie
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    #edchatie Gary here Attended over the last few years. Would be interested in a few things
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    #edchatie I believe the way the teaching unions operate, they are more a collection of self interest cartels than a national union.
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    no. You are not. #edchatie
    In reply to @niamhmurraysing
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    I'd like to know this too. Seems very mysterious behind that closed door. Democracy up until a point! #edchatie
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    #edchatie Would like to know how standing orders prioritise issues for clár. 1.
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT
    #edchatie Not enough time given for private motions which should drive union policy. 2.
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT
    #edchatie Why cant we vote on the 15 most prioritised motions without SO? Or if they get involved how did they miss industrial action mots?
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    #edchatie The money spent on Congress has to be the worst value for money ever. There is a huge need to overhaul this PR event immediately
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Strong opinions imply you feel your position/strategy is best-placed though. CEC have to admit they're not always right. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    #edchatie Issue of hours spent on debating public motions where no one opposes - ok these are important but there needs to be a balance 3.
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Congress is stage managed and controlled by the CEC and Standing Orders,Pay parity and benchmarking got air time this year #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    #edchatie Have to say that INTO would need to use my time more effectively to justify giving up time with my daughter.
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    Particularly relevant for involvement of LPTs. I've said - verbatim - to our Gen. Sec "We are not against you. Please trust us" #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • mjoran Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    #edchatie International evidence suggests teachers need strong unions for professional survival, young teachers must be fully active in them
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    #edchatie Attendance is an issue with hall half full - just over half in for the only card vote - this needs to be looked into 4.
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    #edchatie staff megameeting
    • tweepete Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
      #edchatie INTO Congress 2017 reminded me of a very large staff meeting where much is discussed but very little actually happpens
  • markens2 Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM EDT
    Don't get me started on standing orders. Spent three days trying to satisfy their demands to have droichead debated 1/2 #EdChatIE
  • llennoconeas Apr 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    @rtenews mention pay talks next month No word of equal pay #edchatie
  • markens2 Apr 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    Each time they came back with a different reason as to why not be debated They made a decision that congress should have 2/2 #EdChatIE
  • markens2 Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    The only card vote that was called and approx half the delegates were absent from the hall. Expenses thieves. #EdChatIE
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    SO should be abolished as there is a prioritisation procedure in place. It is no longer fit for purpose IMHO #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    #edchatie Have told INTO big to oversell gains for LPTs. Continue to do so which just riles them. PR clueless!
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    There's sometimes a defensiveness from the CEC which I find worrying & a shame. We're all teachers trying to get through the year. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    #edchatie I always like congress but lots of frustration too! 5.
    In reply to @wdryan2000
  • levdavidovic Apr 24 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    ASTI: Information sought on withdrawal of 2 yr CIDs https://t.co/M03Sf0Zk04 #edchatie #unions
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:00 PM EDT
    Last year our NQTs protested on the unequal pay.It struck a chord and CEC took https://t.co/Xb4hzsrI0P parity is a must #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    Absolutely agree with you there. Public session is for media, who provide a 30-90 second soundbite per day. Waste of our time. #edchatie
    In reply to @Gcorc, @wdryan2000
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    Congress is a great place to catch up on people but there must be a cheaper way of networking #edchatie
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    #edchatie Im not up to speed on motion writing but we need to start to address these issues. Any solutions come to mind?
  • markens2 Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
    2hrs 40mins for private motions. What a waste of money. Congress is more about PR than making the union work. #EdChatIE
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    Just passing the halfway mark in tonight's #edchatie discussion on "changing how our union Congresses work for teachers."
  • de_Bruner Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    #edchatie ASTI branches formulate motions - is this not what happens INTO?
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    Principals and DPs have been looking for their Benchmarking Award for 9 years. The CEC knows but has done little to further it #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    My exp of BEING an LPT, growing up w/ social media, knowing how to use it to my advantage, should not be dismissed b/c of my age. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
    #edchatie #edcExactly the issue we need to change. I think other union has suspended their SO committee How do we change them or do likewise
    In reply to @markens2
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    Congress really is a social occasion but with proper planning certain topics can be on the agenda as in small schools and NQTs #edchatie
  • markens2 Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
    Sharing the agenda of congress with the minister before we even debated it has to be the LOWlight. #EdChatIE
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Particularly when I am actively involved in the INTO, give up a LOT of my free time, and exp. varying amounts of stress re: above. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    #edchatie They are our CEC, they work for us! But seems they focus on self preservation
    In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    Rules Congress 2019. Start the ball rolling now #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    This was absolutely mind-boggling + we didn't get a response. Must be 'the norm' considering they didn't think twice re sharing it #edchatie
    In reply to @markens2
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
    #edchatie My experience the teacher unions don't use tecnology to engage enough. Ballots etc should all be online.
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    Ara sure we tried that by initiating a C O N V E R S A T I O N around district structures and were accused of a big bold agenda! #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:05 PM EDT
    Considering the costs involved, Congress cannot be a social event. It is too important. #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    Not being funny, where's MY honorarium?? 😬 Haha seriously though, we complain about volunteerism being taken advantage of... #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
  • GERARDREILLY4 Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM EDT
    #edchatie INTO Annual Congress has been truncated from Mon-Fri to Mon-Thur to Monday-Wed over last 2 decades.Belfast poor venue IMO !
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Have argued that young teachers were thrown under the bus by unions for their self interest. - weakest members not protected. #edchatie
    In reply to @_conorgalvin
  • Gcorc Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    #edchatie a good debate
    In reply to @heartrattle, @tweepete
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Big social element - Lots of 'regulars' at congress, many retired members who like a good knees up! #edchatie
    • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
      Congress really is a social occasion but with proper planning certain topics can be on the agenda as in small schools and NQTs #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    It is, and some excellent, thorough motions are submitted - but made into weak, composite motions, for God knows what reason. #edchatie
    In reply to @de_Bruner
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    #edchatie well they should be a representative body. #edchatie
    In reply to @markens2, @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Congress is a slow way of proceeding. Technology must be utilised to ensure everyone can take part and not just 800 #edchatie
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
    Small schools pupil teacher ratio cuts reversal,benchmarking and pay equalisation.Lets get the ball rolling for 2018in Kerry #edchatie
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    #edchatie there is not a whole of debate here tonight everyone is pretty much thinking the same thing
    In reply to @Gcorc, @heartrattle, @tweepete
  • lthugh Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    I was at both the GAA congress and INTO congress last two years and always amazed at number of motions GAA can deal with! #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
    Nothing wrong with a bit of socialising if it's done after 8pm on Monday, after 4pm on Tuesday, after 2pm on Wednesday!! #edchatie
    In reply to @conpower
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    #edchatie Folks, if you think you have problems come teach in the States. VA is freedom to work state so no unions. More turnover of staff
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    A bit more like the bus came on course for younger members and the unions didn't try to be heroes and stop it. #edchatie
    • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
      Have argued that young teachers were thrown under the bus by unions for their self interest. - weakest members not protected. #edchatie
      In reply to @_conorgalvin
  • SusanJPike Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    Teaching #geography &/or #history? At @DCU_IoE we have an MEd in them! For all teachers! #edchatie #geographyteacher
  • RoscommonGAA Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    I pay to be represented not led. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @markens2, @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    #edchatie if Teaching Council can facilitate On Line ballot for elections surely INTO can. Technology so under-utilised.
    In reply to @tweepete
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
    Sure we were shown that 3 motions could be passed in five minutes when the clock showed a time of 1:55pm on the Wednesday! #edchatie
    In reply to @lthugh
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    Involvement at grassroots level is key to all this. If that is sorted, Congress could be worth the exercise. #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    #edchatie Totally agree! Networking and sharing experience is invaluable to discussing and resolving issues that effect us all.
    • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
      Nothing wrong with a bit of socialising if it's done after 8pm on Monday, after 4pm on Tuesday, after 2pm on Wednesday!! #edchatie
      In reply to @conpower
  • HanrahanAndy Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    Don't think I could handle 5 days the 4 day congress were great though #edchatie
    In reply to @GERARDREILLY4
  • mjoran Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    #edchatie Values such as solidarity + collegiality pervade teaching unions more than self interest + egotism
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • TTMobile_ie Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    #edchatie is now trending in Ireland, ranking 34
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
    We all complain about the €65 re-registration fee but at least they managed online voting! #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    Does anyone ever do an Evaluation on Congress? It is done at every half-baked course I ever attended #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:12 PM EDT
    #edchatie Lol what about the time they were doing paper votes and messed up the ballot papers and had to isse them twice.
    In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    #edchatie Huge disconnect between union leadership & membership esp. LPTs. Fail to see that they need to earn LPTs respect. Not a given!
  • pauldechnoic Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    #edchatie congress needs some fringe events! Make it more appealing! And not during Easter! ASTI always get the headlines!!!
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
    Ah but we're the bold boys and girls. #edchatie
    In reply to @wdryan2000, @tweepete
  • niamhmurraysing Apr 24 @ 4:14 PM EDT
    Another concern I had was the reference made about a hidden 'agenda' which was quite obviously aimed at a certain individual. #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:15 PM EDT
    I was really disappointed by the chairing of that debate. Total confusion in the hall. #edchatie
    In reply to @HanrahanAndy, @wdryan2000, @tweepete
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    There's a lot of hidden politics at Congress. So many individuals with agendas....some well-intentioned, some not so, methinks #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    #edchatie Bread and Congresses.
    In reply to @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    LGBT fringe event last yr Paul! Disappointed wasn't one this yr but there was a v successful one on TU friends of Palestine! #edchatie
    In reply to @pauldechnoic
  • GogartyColm Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
    #edchatie Less time listening to obvious motions, more time debating issues in small groups. Get every teacher talking and debating
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    Good point. Opportunity never given even though we were surveyed about the Youth Conference just a month ago in Cork. #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete
  • HanrahanAndy Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    At this stage it's like a myth from the tales of the Red Branch knights " the myth of the benchmarking award " #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete, @GERARDREILLY4
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    #edchatie going to be mean here & say every organisation that size will have a share of head the balls who love the sound of their own voice
    • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
      There's a lot of hidden politics at Congress. So many individuals with agendas....some well-intentioned, some not so, methinks #edchatie
  • niamhmurraysing Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    PS I felt hidden 'agenda' comment totally unmerited especially regarding the fine individual to whom it was directed #edchatie
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    have broken my #edchatie record - have written 5 tweets in reply and not tweeted them. Hate Union topics for #edchatie chats
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
    But what is a better way to discuss issues that affect teachers? Do we need motions that condemn/demand? Who cares? #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:18 PM EDT
    #edchatie But at least they never resorted to using chemical weapons. #amiright
    In reply to @johnmayo, @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    #edchatie know number of LPTs find union system bureaucratic & cumbersome. Sounds like Oireachtas .. feedback from some!
  • GERARDREILLY4 Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    Too much time lost on Committee reports, valedictory speeches.Speeches should be bullet points of achievements of last year ! #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    I disagree there, plenty of time at branch meetings, br. committee meetings for small debates. Get the voted on, made into policy #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
    #edchatie I demand people comdemn motions on who cares?
    In reply to @tweepete
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    Condemning and demanding something of DES etc are unfortunately a waste of time. Language needs to instruct CEC to DO SOMETHING. #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    Yet..... #edchatie
    In reply to @conpower, @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    I demand people comdemn motions on who cares? #edchatie
    • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
      But what is a better way to discuss issues that affect teachers? Do we need motions that condemn/demand? Who cares? #edchatie
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    #edchatie Need a formal written published progress report on what motions have been delivered prior to Congress.
    In reply to @tweepete
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    I was a teller and on Wednesday we had 50% present for a vote #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
    In fact I'm getting weary of being on branch committee after 4 yrs. Round-and-round we go, then to Congress where nothing changes #edchatie
    In reply to @GogartyColm
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Sorry for shouting at you Pete 😎 #edchatie
    In reply to @tweepete
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it, And Anyone could have done it But in the end Nobody always ended up with the task. #edchatie
    • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
      Condemning and demanding something of DES etc are unfortunately a waste of time. Language needs to instruct CEC to DO SOMETHING. #edchatie
      In reply to @tweepete
  • wdryan2000 Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
    Could standing order not come up with a list of topics/motions 4 debate and let membership vote electronically on what makes clár? #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:22 PM EDT
    That's available in the "Final Agenda" document in the Members' Section of the INTO website. #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:22 PM EDT
    #edchatie Think that Congress needs to be a vehicle where performance targets are laid down for leadership.
  • GERARDREILLY4 Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    #edchatie Have it on good authority that backdated Principals' unpaid award will be confirmed by toothfairy at Congress 2018!
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    You mean performance targets for "teachers" :-0 Slippery slope !!!!! #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
    Use Kahoot for voting! #edchatie @GetKahoot And motions as well while we are at it.
    • wdryan2000 Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
      Could standing order not come up with a list of topics/motions 4 debate and let membership vote electronically on what makes clár? #edchatie
  • AliceODonnell10 Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    T.U.I seem to fly through motions, proposer and seconded only if motion is unopposed #edchatie
  • heartrattle Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    Like with most things in the INTO, they assume we know, without clearing explaining it to us... #edchatie
    In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
  • lthugh Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
    My branch has motion looking for our payslip to be available electronically last 5 yrs. believe it would take 3 minutes debate max #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    #edchatie Take these to the congress.
    In reply to @AliceODonnell10
  • lthugh Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    Never makes it #edchatie
  • AliceODonnell10 Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    .@FoleyKev any suggestions as to how we can improve attendance? #edchatie
    In reply to @FoleyKev
  • johnmayo Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
    #edchatie have to leave early folks visa paperwork to sort out. Enjoy the final term
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's #edchatie Any last thoughts, ideas, questions or solutions?
  • dhubhda Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    John these guys are no longer teachers. Nunan etc is earning a salary far in excess of any principal in the country #edchatie
    In reply to @johnmayo
  • pamelaaobrien Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    Sorry to have missed tonight's #edchatie :( Reminder that registration is open for @ICTedu full details at https://t.co/zLtnd92ngh #ictedu
  • fboss Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    The #edchatie transcript will be available online tomorrow, so there's still time to add in some extra tweets after the official hour is up
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
    Final word.Can we all put NQTs pay equalisation ,Benchmarking and our small schools to the forefront for INTO Congress Killarney18 #edchatie
  • TTMobile_ie Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    TT IRELAND 20:27 1.#NUFC 2.Newcastle 3.Donal Toolan 4.#irishbeerchat 5.#edchatie 6.#CitizensAssembly 7.#IFABrexit 8.Macron 9.Le Pen 10.Tipp
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    Thanks for hosting, Fred. We are no further on and it is very frustrating. Only the leadeship can change if they have the will #edchatie
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
    Look at Skype/hangout options for branch meetins for members who can't attend in person. More Branch members = more delegates #edchatie
    In reply to @AliceODonnell10, @FoleyKev
  • conpower Apr 24 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    Look at Skype/hangout options for branch meetings for members who can't attend in person. More Branch members = more delegates. #edchatie
  • tweepete Apr 24 @ 4:28 PM EDT
    I suggest we keep motions on specific topics deliberately short so that SO can fly through them #edchatie
  • FoleyKev Apr 24 @ 4:29 PM EDT
    Reduce to 3 the number of speakers for/against any motion even on small schools #edchatie
    In reply to @AliceODonnell10