#edchatie Archive
Monday April 24, 2017
3:30 PM EDT
levdavidovic
Apr 24 @ 3:30 PM EDT
The Gift of Reading
https://t.co/2LWEVvZyan
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fboss
Apr 24 @ 3:30 PM EDT
Welcome to tonight’s
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discussion. As usual, before we begin, please introduce yourself + add the
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hashtag in all tweets
Britannica_IE
Apr 24 @ 3:36 PM EDT
Laurie
@Britannica_IE
joining tonight's
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. I hope everyone had a lovely break and holiday!
HanrahanAndy
Apr 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Andy a primary principal , was up in Belfast v quiet INTO congress
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In reply to @fboss
SeniorInfantRed
Apr 24 @ 3:38 PM EDT
Such a necessary discussion to have. 1st time congress attendee and was left feeling angry and upset by the whole affair.
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EqualPayforNQTs
Apr 24 @ 1:59 PM EDT
#INTO
#ASTI
#TUI
Twitter Debate
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.30 tonight
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Do our union congresses need change? Were you at your...
https://t.co/lRxBzzxLbz
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:39 PM EDT
Jana, primary, NQT rep for D14 of INTO. Attended Congress for the last four years. Very quiet in here this evening!
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FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 3:40 PM EDT
Kevin here a Teaching Principal home from annual INTO Congress in Belfast
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
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Sandra primary. I have never attended a Congress. Viewed webcasts.
wdryan2000
Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Will, Primary Principal, first time attendee @ INTO conference
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MaireadDB
Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
Mairéad, Teacher, INTO activist for many years. Worst Congress of my life.
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GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 3:41 PM EDT
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Colm Gogarty, Primary teacher. I put this topic forward because I was shocked at what a waste of time my Congress was.
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
Some gems at Congresses since I first attended. Mostly a lot of wasted time though. Even after Rule changes in 2015 to speed up
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
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observation of Congress is that same topics come up yr after yr. Suggests no or little progress on issues e.g. Assaults!
fboss
Apr 24 @ 3:42 PM EDT
Fred Boss, 2nd level art teacher, currently on antibiotics. Never attended a Congress so interested to know more from others
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
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what made it a waste of time?
In reply to @GogartyColm
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
Composite motion that made it to the clár this yr - so weak. Extremely strong motions, well-worded, within rule, put aside. Why?
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In reply to @dhubhda
fboss
Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
Full topic for tonight's
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is quite long. Here's the 1st part -> "Discuss changing how our union Congresses work for teachers." 1/3
fboss
Apr 24 @ 3:43 PM EDT
2/3 " INTO, ASTI and TUI teachers need to ensure their issues are sorted properly."
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HanrahanAndy
Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
There is never enough time given to motions which are supposed to determine Union policy
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In reply to @fboss
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
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Can 'home run' motions be passed prior to Congress floor? Seem such a drain on precious time. Save it for real debates.
fboss
Apr 24 @ 3:44 PM EDT
3/3 "Traditions, rules and regs are slow and frequently cumbersome."
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de_Bruner
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
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Michael, Post-primary, attended 3rd union convention this year. Spoke on issue of non-permanent teachers and an OECD report.
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
I think the rule is minimum of 15 minutes' speaking time per motion. President's discretion thereafter.Rule change would be needed
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In reply to @GogartyColm
wdryan2000
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Little or no progress made on anything significant during congress. Status quo rules!
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FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Kevin here a Teaching Principal.I have attended the last 15 INTO Congresses.Motions are passed that make conditions better
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
And some of them are skipped over entirely, even when there'd hardly be an argument against them... Mind-boggling
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In reply to @HanrahanAndy, @fboss
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 3:45 PM EDT
Can a motion re: standing orders be put for next meetings? I hear ASTI or TUI voted to suspend their SO, but not sure details
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In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
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Peter McCabe INTO activist Principal Teacher arriving a little later than intended...heavy traffic on the internet!
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
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Think that main function of Congress is a PR exercise for CEC . Know that people have gone to network.
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM EDT
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ok default to normal Hurricane Heffernan mode and kick the hornets nest. Are unions no place for young teachers?
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
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surely an app for branches would mean a speedy vote on all issues. If branch agrees by over 2/3, the motion passes w/o debate
de_Bruner
Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
ASTI did - unprecedented. I was there
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In reply to @GogartyColm, @heartrattle, @dhubhda
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 3:47 PM EDT
you mean like clickers !!!
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In reply to @GogartyColm
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT
It'd need to come from outside Dublin if so, we're already seen as the bold children.
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In reply to @GogartyColm, @dhubhda
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM EDT
There should be a limit on the number of speakers on motions.Listening to fourteen speakers for any motion is crazy
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
If the poor attendance is anything to go by (approx. 50% to 60% most of the time), networking is indeed the main motivation.
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In reply to @dhubhda
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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Feel that leadership don't like people with strong opinions that challenge them.
In reply to @heartrattle, @GogartyColm
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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INTO Congress 2017 reminded me of a very large staff meeting where much is discussed but very little actually happpens
HanrahanAndy
Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
Nothing worse than hearing 15 people say the same thing over and over. Pass it and move on
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In reply to @heartrattle, @fboss
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
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methinks to quote Shakespeare “I am Sir Oracle, And when I ope my lips, let no dog bark!"
In reply to @FoleyKev
wdryan2000
Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
How do standing orders actually come to agreement on what goes on the clár? They basically dicatate union policy. Very powerful
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KomeeraPillay
Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
Komeera,primary teacher,1st time attendee.Left feeling disheartened. Money&time wasted on bureaucracy. I didn't feel represented.
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM EDT
V frustrating. 30-45 mins of debate (typically not even debate as all speak in favour) for motions w/out strong instruction to CEC
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In reply to @wdryan2000
niamhmurraysing
Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
I thought Richard Bruton's 'speech' was very ineffectual! Nice man but no substance when it comes to Education.....am I too harsh?
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Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
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Gary here Attended over the last few years. Would be interested in a few things
In reply to @wdryan2000
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM EDT
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I believe the way the teaching unions operate, they are more a collection of self interest cartels than a national union.
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
no. You are not.
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In reply to @niamhmurraysing
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
I'd like to know this too. Seems very mysterious behind that closed door. Democracy up until a point!
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In reply to @wdryan2000
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM EDT
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Would like to know how standing orders prioritise issues for clár. 1.
In reply to @wdryan2000
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT
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Not enough time given for private motions which should drive union policy. 2.
In reply to @wdryan2000
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM EDT
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Why cant we vote on the 15 most prioritised motions without SO? Or if they get involved how did they miss industrial action mots?
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
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The money spent on Congress has to be the worst value for money ever. There is a huge need to overhaul this PR event immediately
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Strong opinions imply you feel your position/strategy is best-placed though. CEC have to admit they're not always right.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
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Issue of hours spent on debating public motions where no one opposes - ok these are important but there needs to be a balance 3.
In reply to @wdryan2000
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM EDT
Congress is stage managed and controlled by the CEC and Standing Orders,Pay parity and benchmarking got air time this year
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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Have to say that INTO would need to use my time more effectively to justify giving up time with my daughter.
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
Particularly relevant for involvement of LPTs. I've said - verbatim - to our Gen. Sec "We are not against you. Please trust us"
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
mjoran
Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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International evidence suggests teachers need strong unions for professional survival, young teachers must be fully active in them
In reply to @johnmayo
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM EDT
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Attendance is an issue with hall half full - just over half in for the only card vote - this needs to be looked into 4.
In reply to @wdryan2000
conpower
Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM EDT
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staff megameeting
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM EDT
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INTO Congress 2017 reminded me of a very large staff meeting where much is discussed but very little actually happpens
markens2
Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM EDT
Don't get me started on standing orders. Spent three days trying to satisfy their demands to have droichead debated 1/2
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llennoconeas
Apr 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT
@rtenews
mention pay talks next month No word of equal pay
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markens2
Apr 24 @ 3:58 PM EDT
Each time they came back with a different reason as to why not be debated They made a decision that congress should have 2/2
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markens2
Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
The only card vote that was called and approx half the delegates were absent from the hall. Expenses thieves.
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tweepete
Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
SO should be abolished as there is a prioritisation procedure in place. It is no longer fit for purpose IMHO
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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Have told INTO big to oversell gains for LPTs. Continue to do so which just riles them. PR clueless!
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
There's sometimes a defensiveness from the CEC which I find worrying & a shame. We're all teachers trying to get through the year.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM EDT
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I always like congress but lots of frustration too! 5.
In reply to @wdryan2000
levdavidovic
Apr 24 @ 4:00 PM EDT
ASTI: Information sought on withdrawal of 2 yr CIDs
https://t.co/M03Sf0Zk04
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#unions
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:00 PM EDT
Last year our NQTs protested on the unequal pay.It struck a chord and CEC took
https://t.co/Xb4hzsrI0P
parity is a must
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
Absolutely agree with you there. Public session is for media, who provide a 30-90 second soundbite per day. Waste of our time.
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In reply to @Gcorc, @wdryan2000
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
Congress is a great place to catch up on people but there must be a cheaper way of networking
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GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
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Im not up to speed on motion writing but we need to start to address these issues. Any solutions come to mind?
markens2
Apr 24 @ 4:01 PM EDT
2hrs 40mins for private motions. What a waste of money. Congress is more about PR than making the union work.
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fboss
Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
Just passing the halfway mark in tonight's
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discussion on "changing how our union Congresses work for teachers."
de_Bruner
Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
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ASTI branches formulate motions - is this not what happens INTO?
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
Principals and DPs have been looking for their Benchmarking Award for 9 years. The CEC knows but has done little to further it
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
My exp of BEING an LPT, growing up w/ social media, knowing how to use it to my advantage, should not be dismissed b/c of my age.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM EDT
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#edcExactly
the issue we need to change. I think other union has suspended their SO committee How do we change them or do likewise
In reply to @markens2
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
Congress really is a social occasion but with proper planning certain topics can be on the agenda as in small schools and NQTs
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markens2
Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
Sharing the agenda of congress with the minister before we even debated it has to be the LOWlight.
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Particularly when I am actively involved in the INTO, give up a LOT of my free time, and exp. varying amounts of stress re: above.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
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They are our CEC, they work for us! But seems they focus on self preservation
In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
Rules Congress 2019. Start the ball rolling now
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
This was absolutely mind-boggling + we didn't get a response. Must be 'the norm' considering they didn't think twice re sharing it
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In reply to @markens2
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:04 PM EDT
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My experience the teacher unions don't use tecnology to engage enough. Ballots etc should all be online.
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:05 PM EDT
Ara sure we tried that by initiating a C O N V E R S A T I O N around district structures and were accused of a big bold agenda!
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In reply to @tweepete
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:05 PM EDT
Considering the costs involved, Congress cannot be a social event. It is too important.
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM EDT
Not being funny, where's MY honorarium?? 😬 Haha seriously though, we complain about volunteerism being taken advantage of...
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In reply to @dhubhda, @GogartyColm
GERARDREILLY4
Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM EDT
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INTO Annual Congress has been truncated from Mon-Fri to Mon-Thur to Monday-Wed over last 2 decades.Belfast poor venue IMO !
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Have argued that young teachers were thrown under the bus by unions for their self interest. - weakest members not protected.
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In reply to @_conorgalvin
Gcorc
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
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a good debate
In reply to @heartrattle, @tweepete
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Big social element - Lots of 'regulars' at congress, many retired members who like a good knees up!
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FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM EDT
Congress really is a social occasion but with proper planning certain topics can be on the agenda as in small schools and NQTs
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
It is, and some excellent, thorough motions are submitted - but made into weak, composite motions, for God knows what reason.
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In reply to @de_Bruner
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
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well they should be a representative body.
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In reply to @markens2, @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Congress is a slow way of proceeding. Technology must be utilised to ensure everyone can take part and not just 800
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FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Small schools pupil teacher ratio cuts reversal,benchmarking and pay equalisation.Lets get the ball rolling for 2018in Kerry
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johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
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there is not a whole of debate here tonight everyone is pretty much thinking the same thing
In reply to @Gcorc, @heartrattle, @tweepete
lthugh
Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
I was at both the GAA congress and INTO congress last two years and always amazed at number of motions GAA can deal with!
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Nothing wrong with a bit of socialising if it's done after 8pm on Monday, after 4pm on Tuesday, after 2pm on Wednesday!!
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In reply to @conpower
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
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Folks, if you think you have problems come teach in the States. VA is freedom to work state so no unions. More turnover of staff
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
A bit more like the bus came on course for younger members and the unions didn't try to be heroes and stop it.
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johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM EDT
Have argued that young teachers were thrown under the bus by unions for their self interest. - weakest members not protected.
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In reply to @_conorgalvin
SusanJPike
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
Teaching
#geography
&/or
#history
? At
@DCU_IoE
we have an MEd in them! For all teachers!
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#geographyteacher
RoscommonGAA
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
I pay to be represented not led.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @markens2, @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
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if Teaching Council can facilitate On Line ballot for elections surely INTO can. Technology so under-utilised.
In reply to @tweepete
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM EDT
Sure we were shown that 3 motions could be passed in five minutes when the clock showed a time of 1:55pm on the Wednesday!
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In reply to @lthugh
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Involvement at grassroots level is key to all this. If that is sorted, Congress could be worth the exercise.
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
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Totally agree! Networking and sharing experience is invaluable to discussing and resolving issues that effect us all.
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM EDT
Nothing wrong with a bit of socialising if it's done after 8pm on Monday, after 4pm on Tuesday, after 2pm on Wednesday!!
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In reply to @conpower
HanrahanAndy
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
Don't think I could handle 5 days the 4 day congress were great though
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In reply to @GERARDREILLY4
mjoran
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
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Values such as solidarity + collegiality pervade teaching unions more than self interest + egotism
In reply to @johnmayo
TTMobile_ie
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
#edchatie
is now trending in Ireland, ranking 34
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:10 PM EDT
We all complain about the €65 re-registration fee but at least they managed online voting!
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In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:12 PM EDT
Does anyone ever do an Evaluation on Congress? It is done at every half-baked course I ever attended
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:12 PM EDT
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Lol what about the time they were doing paper votes and messed up the ballot papers and had to isse them twice.
In reply to @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
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Huge disconnect between union leadership & membership esp. LPTs. Fail to see that they need to earn LPTs respect. Not a given!
pauldechnoic
Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
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congress needs some fringe events! Make it more appealing! And not during Easter! ASTI always get the headlines!!!
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM EDT
Ah but we're the bold boys and girls.
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In reply to @wdryan2000, @tweepete
niamhmurraysing
Apr 24 @ 4:14 PM EDT
Another concern I had was the reference made about a hidden 'agenda' which was quite obviously aimed at a certain individual.
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:15 PM EDT
I was really disappointed by the chairing of that debate. Total confusion in the hall.
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In reply to @HanrahanAndy, @wdryan2000, @tweepete
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
There's a lot of hidden politics at Congress. So many individuals with agendas....some well-intentioned, some not so, methinks
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
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Bread and Congresses.
In reply to @GogartyColm, @heartrattle
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
LGBT fringe event last yr Paul! Disappointed wasn't one this yr but there was a v successful one on TU friends of Palestine!
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In reply to @pauldechnoic
GogartyColm
Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
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Less time listening to obvious motions, more time debating issues in small groups. Get every teacher talking and debating
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
Good point. Opportunity never given even though we were surveyed about the Youth Conference just a month ago in Cork.
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In reply to @tweepete
HanrahanAndy
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
At this stage it's like a myth from the tales of the Red Branch knights " the myth of the benchmarking award "
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In reply to @tweepete, @GERARDREILLY4
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
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going to be mean here & say every organisation that size will have a share of head the balls who love the sound of their own voice
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM EDT
There's a lot of hidden politics at Congress. So many individuals with agendas....some well-intentioned, some not so, methinks
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niamhmurraysing
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
PS I felt hidden 'agenda' comment totally unmerited especially regarding the fine individual to whom it was directed
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johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
have broken my
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record - have written 5 tweets in reply and not tweeted them. Hate Union topics for
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chats
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
But what is a better way to discuss issues that affect teachers? Do we need motions that condemn/demand? Who cares?
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:18 PM EDT
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But at least they never resorted to using chemical weapons.
#amiright
In reply to @johnmayo, @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
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know number of LPTs find union system bureaucratic & cumbersome. Sounds like Oireachtas .. feedback from some!
GERARDREILLY4
Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
Too much time lost on Committee reports, valedictory speeches.Speeches should be bullet points of achievements of last year !
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In reply to @tweepete
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
I disagree there, plenty of time at branch meetings, br. committee meetings for small debates. Get the voted on, made into policy
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In reply to @GogartyColm
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM EDT
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I demand people comdemn motions on who cares?
In reply to @tweepete
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Condemning and demanding something of DES etc are unfortunately a waste of time. Language needs to instruct CEC to DO SOMETHING.
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In reply to @tweepete
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Yet.....
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In reply to @conpower, @heartrattle, @dhubhda, @tweepete
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
I demand people comdemn motions on who cares?
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tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM EDT
But what is a better way to discuss issues that affect teachers? Do we need motions that condemn/demand? Who cares?
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dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
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Need a formal written published progress report on what motions have been delivered prior to Congress.
In reply to @tweepete
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
I was a teller and on Wednesday we had 50% present for a vote
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
In fact I'm getting weary of being on branch committee after 4 yrs. Round-and-round we go, then to Congress where nothing changes
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In reply to @GogartyColm
heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Sorry for shouting at you Pete 😎
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In reply to @tweepete
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it, And Anyone could have done it But in the end Nobody always ended up with the task.
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:20 PM EDT
Condemning and demanding something of DES etc are unfortunately a waste of time. Language needs to instruct CEC to DO SOMETHING.
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In reply to @tweepete
wdryan2000
Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Could standing order not come up with a list of topics/motions 4 debate and let membership vote electronically on what makes clár?
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:22 PM EDT
That's available in the "Final Agenda" document in the Members' Section of the INTO website.
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In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:22 PM EDT
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Think that Congress needs to be a vehicle where performance targets are laid down for leadership.
GERARDREILLY4
Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
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Have it on good authority that backdated Principals' unpaid award will be confirmed by toothfairy at Congress 2018!
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
You mean performance targets for "teachers" :-0 Slippery slope !!!!!
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In reply to @dhubhda
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM EDT
Use Kahoot for voting!
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@GetKahoot
And motions as well while we are at it.
wdryan2000
Apr 24 @ 4:21 PM EDT
Could standing order not come up with a list of topics/motions 4 debate and let membership vote electronically on what makes clár?
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AliceODonnell10
Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
T.U.I seem to fly through motions, proposer and seconded only if motion is unopposed
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heartrattle
Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
Like with most things in the INTO, they assume we know, without clearing explaining it to us...
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In reply to @dhubhda, @tweepete
lthugh
Apr 24 @ 4:24 PM EDT
My branch has motion looking for our payslip to be available electronically last 5 yrs. believe it would take 3 minutes debate max
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
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Take these to the congress.
In reply to @AliceODonnell10
lthugh
Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
Never makes it
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AliceODonnell10
Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
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@FoleyKev
any suggestions as to how we can improve attendance?
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In reply to @FoleyKev
johnmayo
Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM EDT
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have to leave early folks visa paperwork to sort out. Enjoy the final term
fboss
Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
We're into the famous final five minutes of tonight's
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Any last thoughts, ideas, questions or solutions?
dhubhda
Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
John these guys are no longer teachers. Nunan etc is earning a salary far in excess of any principal in the country
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In reply to @johnmayo
pamelaaobrien
Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
Sorry to have missed tonight's
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:( Reminder that registration is open for
@ICTedu
full details at
https://t.co/zLtnd92ngh
#ictedu
fboss
Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
The
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transcript will be available online tomorrow, so there's still time to add in some extra tweets after the official hour is up
FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM EDT
Final word.Can we all put NQTs pay equalisation ,Benchmarking and our small schools to the forefront for INTO Congress Killarney18
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TTMobile_ie
Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
TT IRELAND 20:27 1.
#NUFC
2.Newcastle 3.Donal Toolan 4.
#irishbeerchat
5.
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6.
#CitizensAssembly
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#IFABrexit
8.Macron 9.Le Pen 10.Tipp
tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
Thanks for hosting, Fred. We are no further on and it is very frustrating. Only the leadeship can change if they have the will
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conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM EDT
Look at Skype/hangout options for branch meetins for members who can't attend in person. More Branch members = more delegates
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In reply to @AliceODonnell10, @FoleyKev
conpower
Apr 24 @ 4:28 PM EDT
Look at Skype/hangout options for branch meetings for members who can't attend in person. More Branch members = more delegates.
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tweepete
Apr 24 @ 4:28 PM EDT
I suggest we keep motions on specific topics deliberately short so that SO can fly through them
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FoleyKev
Apr 24 @ 4:29 PM EDT
Reduce to 3 the number of speakers for/against any motion even on small schools
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In reply to @AliceODonnell10