#PatinsIcam Archive

A weekly half hour chat focused on improving access to education for PK-12 students through the use of Accessible Educational Materials (AEM), Universal Design for Learning (UDL), and Assistive Technology (AT).

Tuesday January 30, 2018
8:30 PM EST

  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:30 PM EST
    welcome! Sign in and let us know who you are. AT Team Development #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Jan 30 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Greetings! Bev Sharritt, PATINS specialist for blindness and low vision AT and AEM in Indiana, tweeting from #ATIA18 about SOTU (seek out tech understanding) #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hi! Kelli tweeting from #ATIA18 4 tonight's #PatinsIcam chat! Specialist of ASD, Aspergers, SLD, Chrome Accessibility, AEM & AT Integration
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Sandi Smith PATINS Specialist, Columbus, IN #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Juliie Kuhn here, moderating tonight! Let's explore AT Team Development and ATIA! #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Sandy Stabenfeldt, ICAM Digital Services Specialist Welcome everyone! #PatinsIcam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Karen Dishman, Assistive Technology Coordinator, from Evansville, Indiana #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Hi! Rachel Herron here! Proud PATINS Team member and former AT Team Developer! Looking forward to the chat! #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Hello from ATIA! Daniel here...Dir. of @PATINSPROJECT, former PATINS Coordinator, SpEd Teacher, Behavior Therapist, Paraprofessional. My favorite night of the week! #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 30 @ 8:33 PM EST
    Good evening! Jena Fahlbush from PATINS here to learn more about AT team development. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Hi Karen! So glad you are here!!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Q1: Do we still need AT Teams? #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Glad you're here, Karen! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • jconradslp Jan 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Jessica, PATINS Specialist, former team member and no 1 fan #PatinsIcam
  • asheetsroom14 Jan 30 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Angie from Bluffton checking in from ATIA! #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Hooray! Welcome Angie! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @asheetsroom14
  • ksuding Jan 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A1: In order to have systematic way for AEM in a timely manner for students...YES! #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A1: Yes #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    So fun to see you here in person and in the chat Angie! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @asheetsroom14
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: YES, I say. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: Yes we do! Empowering schools at the local level to increase capacity is what it is all about! #PatinsIcam
  • NWingate5 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Nicole Wingate, SLP from MSD Bluffton-Harrison checking in from ATIA! #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    YESSSSSSS! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt, @asheetsroom14
  • jlfahlbush Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: I say two or more heads are always better than 1 #PatinsIcam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: AT teams are more important now than ever to spread the information about all of the technology solutions available. #patinsicam
  • mwhammond1 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A:1 Sorry ! #Patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Hi Nicole!! I am so glad to see you again so soon! :) #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A1: No, really, Yes #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Absolutely! You have such a HUGE team! I know you know! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • jconradslp Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
    A1: Multidisciplinary teams are always a great idea when looking at ways to support students, but it may not need to be a formal or dedicated team, Id like any T to feel like they can step up #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
    no, sorry! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @mwhammond1
  • BevSharritt Jan 30 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Hey Nicole! We should find the best local key lime pie while we’re here! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @NWingate5
  • NWingate5 Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A1: Absolutely! It takes a team to assess all aspects of AT and what the student needs. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Q2: Describe Expert model and Local Capacity. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Count me in! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @BevSharritt, @NWingate5
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A1: I think having a team that gets the front line of professional development or education is so important. #patinsicam
  • mwhammond1 Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A:1 Can staff adhere to the quality indicators without a team cohesive?#patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Just having that organized approach is huge! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • ksuding Jan 30 @ 8:39 PM EST
    That is an excellent question for pondering when thinking of AT team development #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @mwhammond1
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Q3: Who should be on the AT Team?#PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A2: Local Cap. is the ability & resources to solve a local issue w/out the assistance of local resources. #PatinsIcam
  • mwhammond1 Jan 30 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A3 Sped Teacher Building Principal or Designee, Student, Parent(s)/Guardian, Gen Ed Teacher, Special Service Providers (OT, SLP), DRM, Tech. Specialist #patinsicam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A3: Any staff is game. Teachers, administrators (principal) would be awesome, Ots, Pts and especially SLPs. Having a paraprofessional would be a super asset. #patinsicam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A2: Local Cap. is the ability & resources to solve a local issue w/out the assistance of non-local resources. #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A3: What @mwhammond1 said but don't forget gen ed. #PatinsIcam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Q4: What is your AT Team referral process?#PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3: I think many minds need to contribute! OT, SLP, Gen Ed Teacher, Admin, Special Ed teachers, PTs...so many different perspectives and levels of expertise! #PatinsIcam
  • ksuding Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3: It would highly benefit schools when developing an AT team to have the IT staff member to be involved in SOME way to have a deeper understanding of the needs our diverse learners have to access curriculum. Blocking access can be a huge barrier to access. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A3: student, parents, sped staff, gen ed staff, admin, transition are all choices. Some decisions can be made without the full compliment, but especially long term planning should include all #PatinsIcam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A2: Teach a man to fish saying comes to mind with local capacity! #patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Beautiful! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    A3: TOR, Gen. Ed. Teachers, Admin., All Related Service Professionals, School Psych., possibly IT Staff. #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Nailed it! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:43 PM EST
    You are so correct on this!!!! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:44 PM EST
    ABSOLUTELY! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @ksuding
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5: How do you train AT Teams? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:46 PM EST
    A4: In my previous job we had a specific referral request based on the WATI laid out with links on a website. There was no question where information came from and a referral question was required. @jconradslp also created a video that outlined the process! #PatinsIcam
  • ss4122 Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5: Send team members to PATINS/ICAM training and workshops! #PatinsIcam
  • mwhammond1 Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A4: How are they selected? Who becomes team leader and chooses? Should it be based on knowledge of student needs? #patinsicam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5: Constantly and consistently! You must provide lots and lots of training! #patinsicam
  • Teach4SpclNeeds Jan 30 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Just wanted to pop in and give a quick shout-out to my favorite #PatinsIcam edurockstars!!! Miss u guys! I’m taking a college course Tues nights on Dyslexia. #learningneverstops #allkidsareourkids
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5: Familiarizing Teams with the SETT Framework is really important. Teaching Teams how to be organized and collaborate is huge. #PatinsIcam
  • BevSharritt Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A5: Send them to conferences together, bring in PATINS folks for targeted trainings, provide means/time for BLV teachers to talk to SLP’s, (for example) to collaborate #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 30 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Thanks for dropping by! Hope you class goes well! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @Teach4SpclNeeds
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: Shout out to the SETT Framework! Rachel, Joy. #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5: AT Teams need a variety of PD that is continuous and "just in time" and/or "on-demand" for the needs individuals have in that moment. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    WE MISS YOU TOO (although I am thrilled you are adding even more to your huge knowledge base!) We will be here when you are done! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @Teach4SpclNeeds
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    It is incredible...it does not miss a step! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A4: Our process starts with the IEP team following a flow chart of questions. This leads them to determine if a consultation is needed or they already have devices they are using. Then, a related service of AT consultation is added to their IEP. #patinsicam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Q6: So when should an AT Evaluation be done? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Timeless #PatinsIcam
  • mwhammond1 Jan 30 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5: Yes, the SETT is pretty perfect and so simple.Thanks, Joy! #Patinsicam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Here is a link to the SETT Framework...important stuff! https://t.co/5YfbtAsvDs #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Your flow chart is really helpful! Great organizational tool that takes the "guess work" out of things! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Q7: When should devices be trialed? #PatinsIcam
  • jlfahlbush Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A7: When the features match the needs #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A6: It is worth discussing whether a full AT eval or a consultation is the better path. #PatinsIcam @KarenJan
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:53 PM EST
    A6: Our team mostly performs consultations if possible and involve the current SLP, teacher, related services if possible. Evaluations are done for students that have more detailed, complex or multiple needs. #patinsicam
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:53 PM EST
    Do they need to all be formal 50 day referrals? #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:54 PM EST
    A6: I think that Ts can do lots of trials...trials are important. Sometimes trials lead to the end result, and sometimes a full evaluation is needed. It depends on the situation! #PatinsIcam
  • danielgmcnulty Jan 30 @ 8:54 PM EST
    And further, if just a consultation, what's the harm is just trying some things as a classroom T? #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:54 PM EST
    Q8: List some AT Eval/Assessment Resources. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:55 PM EST
    I have always believed that it is like any other evaluation and YES it should be held to the 50 day timeline if one is initiated through an IEP (and followed with a formal report). Consults are more causal #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Just make sure you DOCUMENT how it turned out! #PatinsIcam
    • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:54 PM EST
      A6: I think that Ts can do lots of trials...trials are important. Sometimes trials lead to the end result, and sometimes a full evaluation is needed. It depends on the situation! #PatinsIcam
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A7: We present suggestions and ideas to the student's team and start trials with low or high tech devices. We try to get something started with the student ASAP #patinsicam
  • jconradslp Jan 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Thoughtful goal based trials usually yield better data for the team (does a 50 day eval for every pencil grip and new visual support make sense for the student to guide the team? Probably not.) #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    For high incidence needs a consult should be best practices. In a perfect world high incidence needs would already be met in a UDL environment. #PatinsIcam
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    Yes...Trials are HUGE and a lot of Teachers have good intuition about this! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @danielgmcnulty, @JulieHKuhn
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    I agree! Sometimes the team already knows what the student needs but they just need reassurance or a little training. #patinsicam
    In reply to @RachelH872
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:56 PM EST
    ABSOLUTELY! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @JulieHKuhn
  • RachelH872 Jan 30 @ 8:57 PM EST
    This is absolutely true! #PatinsIcam
    In reply to @KarenDishman
  • KarenDishman Jan 30 @ 8:57 PM EST
    Good thoughts! We keep our consult services on for a full year to allow for trials of different devices if needed. #patinsicam
    In reply to @jconradslp
  • JulieHKuhn Jan 30 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Q9: Is there always one AT solution? #PatinsIcam
  • PATINSSandi Jan 30 @ 8:59 PM EST
    A9: Thankfully not! Individuals require individual solutions. #PatinsIcam