#IEedchat Archive

#IEedchat is a great way for Inland Empire (California) educators to share teaching strategies, educational resources, and more.
Monday November 6, 2017
10:30 PM EST
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:30 PM EST
    Welcome to #IEedchat. Tonight we will be discussing Coding In and Out of the Classroom. We will be using the Q1:A1 format.
  • participatechat Nov 6 @ 10:30 PM EST
    Participate in the upcoming #IEedchat by sharing resources and collaborating at https://t.co/kBC0NA1bMS
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:31 PM EST
    Q0: Introduce yourself and tell us a little about your first computer (PC, laptop,etc.). #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Hi, I'm Tom and I'm the TOSA Tech Coach @Paloma Valley in the @PUHSD. I loved my Macintosh SE in '87. It got me through college. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    A0: Chris Lara 8th grade history first computer was a big Mac. Made so much noise when turning on #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:32 PM EST
    Q0 Princess Choi. HS math and CS teacher. My first computer was when I was a freshmen in college. a big box. #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    Carisa in the High Desert my 1st comp. was an Apple IIE. Used it in school computer lab then later got one at home. #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A0: Deatra Lee, Tech TOSA @puhsd, it was a PC. I remember it had a typing game I loved to play. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    Joseph Williams Exec Dir of Tech We didn’t have a lot of money when I was a kid.I experimented using friends' computers. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A0: Jonathan Synnott, tech TOSA @puhsd. My first PC was an Amiga 500. Awesome games and I learned basic command line instructions #IEedchat
  • MistaDaly Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    #IEEdchat A0: Stephen Daly. Agriculture educator at puhsd. And I don't even remember it's been that long
  • BaynesHeidi Nov 6 @ 10:33 PM EST
    A0: Heidi Baynes- SJUSD...I think my first computer was an Apple IIe? I loved to play typing games on it. #ieedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    Q1 is coming up. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:34 PM EST
    A0: Jed Tech TOSA / math geek @puhsd @HeritageHSPats First "computer" I could think of was the classic Speak and Spell #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    Q1: Several states are writing computer science standards. Of what importance should schools place on teaching to these standards? #IEedchat
  • TrPatel20 Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A)) Hi this is Sonal, IC at Romoland and I don't remember what my 1st computer was called! I remember playing pacman on it! #ieedchat😬
    In reply to @ieedchat
  • MRoarkPMP Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    A0) Michael proudly from Jurupa USD. I think it was an Apple IIc. Although, I owned older ones over the years #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    Rob Guzman,CMIPerris My first computer was actually a dell after I graduated college, all computer access had been on loaners #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    https://t.co/8AJmkQ0fQw #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
    Chad- Coordinator SPecial Ed. My 1st computer was a Radio Shack Model TR-80 #oldschool #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    A1:I think it is an outrage that our public (and private) school system is so slow to adapt to our changing world. WAKE UP people! #IEedchat
  • MsDeBuse Nov 6 @ 10:36 PM EST
    I completely agree! I don't understand why it has taken the school system so long to catch up with the changing times! #ieedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5
  • jswilliams Nov 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Ss need to be transliterate across platforms, tools and media. This includes being literate in programming languages. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Schools should realign priorities to focus on preparing Ss for future jobs in CS. These standards are as important as others #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1:CS should be in all grades and a requirement. In order to be better at what we have, we need to be better at we teach. #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1) I haven't seen the standards yet. So I can't answer that. But if it's a State Standard, don't we have to teach to it anyway? #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:37 PM EST
    A1: Sadly, I do not know the tech standards well enough to integrate in my classroom #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A1: I think a good amount of importance needs to be placed. These are relevant skills #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    Like some others, I have fond memories of programming the turtle to draw on Apple IIE in school lab. https://t.co/0p5L0G0MWH #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:38 PM EST
    A1: Also, are we referring to ISTE standards or are some states actually writing state standards? is CA doing this? #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    Q2: How would you suggest schools balance teaching computer science (CS) standards w/ teaching traditional content standards? #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Nov 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    A1: Very important. All students should be exposed to the field and have the opportunity to pursue it if they choose #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
      Q1: Several states are writing computer science standards. Of what importance should schools place on teaching to these standards? #IEedchat
  • TrPatel20 Nov 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    I totally agree! Especially after reading this Horizon Report back in January: https://t.co/A7ZypD2b3Z Very interesting! #ieedchat
    In reply to @AshleyMSJC5
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
    Me too, but hat is way cooler than anything I did. What was the language called? #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: I think we need to blow up the science framework to make way for guided pathways that allow interested Ss to focus on CompSci #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    Say more here - what's a good amount (or what isn't a good amount?) #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • DeatraLee_Edu Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A1: All students should have some experience with computer science. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:35 PM EST
      Q1: Several states are writing computer science standards. Of what importance should schools place on teaching to these standards? #IEedchat
  • Chad_Shaner Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2 w/ a little creativity, you can blend most any lesson in with CS standards b/c CS is woven into everything in today's society #IEedchat
  • MsDeBuse Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: I think that content area teachers should incorporate some general principles that are helpful for CS into their curriculum. #ieedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2:CS should be integrated in all subjects, but I can see how Math and Science could gain from this as well #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:40 PM EST
    A2: CS can complement core classes. Bootstrap is a language/curriculum that supports Algebra education #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: It's an issue of time. CS needs to be built in every Ss schedule to achieve proper balance of CS, ELA, math, science, etc. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A1: There's been Tech standards w/ @iste S standards, recently updated, https://t.co/SHRQQWj8Ch But this is more specific here. #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Nov 6 @ 10:41 PM EST
    A2: Schools could teach CS through other subjects. https://t.co/4jlLsi30rL #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Q3 coming up. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    CS standards only just been formed. It's hard to standardize something that changes. Still, It needs presence in schools. #IEedchat
    In reply to @iste
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A2) We need to make time in our classroom to blend in CS standards, especially in math. But as a T who teaches both, CS takes time #IEedchat
  • MRoarkPMP Nov 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    Big ships turn slowly or capsize #ieedchat
    In reply to @MsDeBuse, @AshleyMSJC5
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:42 PM EST
    A2: intertwining the standards would be good. Use the CS standards to teach content ones #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    Q3: The job market for CS jobs is rapidly growing. What pathways should K-12 schools offer to help Ss prepare for these jobs? #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    ...I'm glad that CA ed code allows for CS courses to count with math under certain circumstances at least: https://t.co/smtMxacv9b #IEedchat
    In reply to @iste
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    With how important variables and operations are to any programming language, it seems CS would be easily merged w/teach math #IEedchat
    In reply to @jswilliams
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    I don't disagree at all, but I think Comp. Sci. needs to muscle into the starting lineup... #IEedchat
    In reply to @jswilliams
  • BaynesHeidi Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
    A2. This is tricky. Need to offer a variety of opportunities for Ss to engage in CS, but that's easier said than done. #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:39 PM EST
      Q2: How would you suggest schools balance teaching computer science (CS) standards w/ teaching traditional content standards? #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A3: It is so frustrating to see the world SHOWING us its needs and educators being so slow to respond: AI, renewable energy, CS. #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:44 PM EST
    A2:@ standards alignment meeting. Our T expert said her district had tech sequence that went with standards scope/sequence #IEedchat
  • MRoarkPMP Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A1) if we are to prepare students for their future, we must. Imagine the blacksmith’s son in 1930. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A2: I think we should focus on practices to start (when integrating CS into other courses). #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    !!!!!! Are you saying that a CSD class can be a "C" course if the District says so? *eyesWideOpen* #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler, @iste
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    ...For example: NGSS practice 5: Use Math and Computational Thinking https://t.co/iiWVLqxkKg #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A3: Some schools promote CS w/STEAM academies that have a CS focus. Palm Middle School in Moreno Valley has one such program. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    A4:By Incorporating CS in school, we still need flexibility for Advance Students to take courses on things like Code Academy #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:45 PM EST
    Not too sure yet but definitely promoting them as much as common core standards are being promoted is a start #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathButler
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A3 out MS offers 1 comp class that teaches typing, word processing, etc. Plus @PLTWorg electives. It’s a start #IEedchat
  • MagikMonta Nov 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    A2 Hello! Center Administrator & ELA TOA 4 Mojave River Academy n Phelan. I’v found giving our Ts the training in tech is 1st #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
    Not sure about counting for A-G. But it can count as third year for district requirements. I think. #IEedchat
    In reply to @MathPrincessC, @iste
  • MagikMonta Nov 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A2- when Ts become more comfortable they start getting excited then they start sharing with the ads and then our families #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    https://t.co/Ev52eW38AP has several free self-paced courses on many programming languages for beginning and advanced learners #IEedchat
    In reply to @rguztec
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    A3: I'll stick with what I mentioned in A2: focus on dev. practices related to CS in current pathways. Don't rebuild whole system. #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:47 PM EST
    Can someone please give me more info on this one? #IEedchat
    • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:46 PM EST
      Not sure about counting for A-G. But it can count as third year for district requirements. I think. #IEedchat
      In reply to @MathPrincessC, @iste
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    Q4: Should passing CS courses be a graduate requirement? Why or why not? #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A3: We would need input from the industry/business partners to determine a pathway for students. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:43 PM EST
      Q3: The job market for CS jobs is rapidly growing. What pathways should K-12 schools offer to help Ss prepare for these jobs? #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    Thanks! I just always remember Code Academy, but those are sweet too. #IEedchat
    In reply to @JSynnott1
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A3: more CS courses would be awesome as well as like an AP CS course #IEedchat
  • MRoarkPMP Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A2) I agree w/ others that CS can be integrated into many other topics. Algorithms, process, logic, and loopholes #IEedchat
  • MsDeBuse Nov 6 @ 10:48 PM EST
    A4: I think that it should be a requirement because it is imperative to the Ss understanding of society. #ieedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4: Yes, I think passing a CS course to graduate would properly emphasize the importance of of programming and logical thinking. #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4: I think it is time for CS units to be a requirement along side ELA, math, etc. Ss should have so many units of CS to graduate #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4: Tricky game here, let's say CS should be req for grad. Does something else give? Or do we just keep adding? Need longer convo #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A3) I think it was 2 yrs ago, I met a student from another school who told me he made money on the side programming. #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:49 PM EST
    A4: Yes, the world is changing and we should create opportunities for the modern world. They have to think in CS #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Nov 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A4: Yes, I agree with @JSynnott1 & @AshleyMSJC5. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    Q5 is on the way. #IEedchat
  • MagikMonta Nov 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A2- we all wk w/amazing Ts who want to do more 4 our Ss and we want our Ss 2 have the best. Empower our Ts who then empower our Ss #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Nov 6 @ 10:50 PM EST
    A4: I may change my mind on this eventually, but right now, I say no. #ieedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • jswilliams Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    14 states allow students to fulfill a math, science or foreign language credit through completion of a computer science course. #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    A4: Another bit: Some districts look at performance based requirements. e.g. focus skills / chunked standards, not just courses. #IEedchat
  • TrPatel20 Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
    a4) I think it'll be just as important as Math, Science, ELA! Just imagine how many future occupations it would benefit... #ieedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A5: Ts can extend the Hour of Code to be several hours of code in Dec! Also, World History Ts can teach 2nd Ind Rev- Electric Rev #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A5: I had a student that took what he learned on CS class @khanacademy and applied it to his Bio class by creating a molecule #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    BUILD COMPUTATIONAL THINKING! Look at structures and systems. Learn the art of the content but also the science. It'll be like CS #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
      Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
    A5: Using platforms like Scratch and Tynker, Ts could have Ss use block coding to express understanding of course content. #IEedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A4: not too sure on this. A lot of variables would be in motion to make room for it #IEedchat
  • BaynesHeidi Nov 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A5: Start small. Software like @scratch is very versatile and can be embedded in the curriculum. #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
      Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • DeatraLee_Edu Nov 6 @ 10:53 PM EST
    A5: Use CS skills to create content in those subjects. #IEedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
      Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A5: There are CS activities that embed context related to other content areas, like @codeorg, still: https://t.co/31UoQFwFEZ #IEedchat
    • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:52 PM EST
      BUILD COMPUTATIONAL THINKING! Look at structures and systems. Learn the art of the content but also the science. It'll be like CS #IEedchat
      • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
        Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • TrPatel20 Nov 6 @ 10:54 PM EST
    a5) Connect it to what you are already doing... and make it meaningful for them. How can this help them in the future? #ieedchat
    • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:51 PM EST
      Q5: How can educators who teach ELA, Math, Science, and Social Studies encourage Ss to practice CS skills in their classrooms? #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A4) Making a subject a graduation requirement makes it... a requirement. Like math or science or English. #IEedchat
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:54 PM EST
    A5) Math: using variables, algorithms. ELA: importance of proper punctuation, Sci: using programs to analyze data #ieedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Q6: How can educators encourage Ss to use coding platforms outside of the classroom? #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    Agreed! Proper syntax is essential in any programming language. #IEedchat
    In reply to @KochCarisa
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:55 PM EST
    A6: We would need to have students find an interest and link it to that interest, this way they wlll keep working on it #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A4) I am NOT for making CS a graduation requirement. I want Ss to learn because they want to and see value. #IEedchat
  • MathPrincessC Nov 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A4) CS counting for another required subject is better. #IEedchat It's been a while. I'm wordy today.
  • MathButler Nov 6 @ 10:56 PM EST
    A6: Allow Ss to demonstrate understanding of content via a coding/CS project. We could better market options Ss have 4 coding too. #IEedchat
  • ieedchat - Moderator Nov 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    Any final thoughts on Coding In and Out of the Classroom? #IEedchat
  • JSynnott1 Nov 6 @ 10:57 PM EST
    A6: Embedding CS into a long term project would encourage Ss practice at home #IEedchat
  • AshleyMSJC5 Nov 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT:Emphasis of Computer Sci in K-12 needs to be top priority, but not at expense of Lib Arts. They teach what it means to be human #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    FT: Promote CS as much as you can, you don't know what kid is the next genius. You also don't know how they can change the world #IEedchat
  • TrPatel20 Nov 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    Get the community involved. Start with @hourofcode They have letter templates to send to parents and the community... #ieedchat
  • Chrisjlara24 Nov 6 @ 10:58 PM EST
    A5: allow Ss to use those skills as an option to complete projects #IEedchat
  • rguztec Nov 6 @ 10:59 PM EST
    And to teach us as well #IEedchat
    In reply to @Chrisjlara24
  • KochCarisa Nov 6 @ 10:59 PM EST
    FT: Coding is a highly marketable skill but computational thinking instead of 1 language or program. Tech is constantly changing #ieedchat