#dtk12chat Archive

Please join us for a weekly conversation about design thinking in K12 education. We will have a variety of moderators with a wide range and depth of design thinking experiences. Each week, we will connect the dots to the design thinking methodology and how it can and will play a bigger role in today’s K12 educational arena.

Wednesday December 19, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good Evening #dtk12chat!
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Welcome to #dtk12chat. Please introduce yourself and share a win for the week. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:03 PM EST
    I am super excited to talk #dthinking & experimentation--I hope you are too ! #dtk12chat
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hey @msjlura thanks for Modding tonights #dtk12chat Looks like a great topic!
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I hope so! It's definitely one that my students & a lot of adults I know struggle with #dtk12chat
    In reply to @scitechyEDU
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Zoe Grove from Elon University class of '20 studying MG Math Ed! One win this week is that I got all my Christmas shopping done! #dtk12chat #ElonEd
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:05 PM EST
    I’m Mary via ATL No wins for me this week! #dtk12chat #justbeinghonest
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    That is impressive, Zoe! I still have some outstanding items that I can't quite cross off my list yet. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @zoe_grove16
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Jill from MN, calling toys the K ss made for Curious George my win for the week #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hello #DTk12chat Jackie from CT - local activator for @fdesignschool and current high school library media specialist.
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Jill--those are awesome! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:06 PM EST
    yes, and I hope you will do this topic again sometime in Feb as I am sure the fast approaching holidays for Teachers may create a light chat tonight #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Donna from South Carolina. A big win this week has been collaborating with district innovators on plans for 2019! #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Thanks! working w/the art teacher helped bring them the next level #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • Ms_Cerda - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Hi #dtk12chat friends, long time no see! Steph here from #ATX! 🤗
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    You're here--that's a win :) #dtk12chat
    In reply to @scitechyEDU
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1: Please complete the following madlib #dtk12chat Experimentation is like ___________________ because _____________________________.
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Steph! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @Ms_Cerda
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Donna--you do such great work with your district! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hey Donna Care to share any cool ideas for 2019 Notice any trends? #dtk12chat CC @lndeutsch Trends for 2019 wld make a great chat for #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber, @lndeutsch
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:09 PM EST
    welcome back Stephanie! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @Ms_Cerda
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Rachel from NE Ohio. Win: baked gluten free sugar cookies for the first time and they’re edible! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 Experimentation is like abandoning my recipe while cooking because I don't have all the ingredients anyway and I can make some cool substitutions with what I do have #DTk12Chat
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 Experimentation is like a sand box bc its messy, irritating, fun, unpredictable, & impossible to play for perfection! Plus if you don’t go barefoot, the experiment will follow you for days in your shoes #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • T_HEB Dec 19 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 Experimentation is like a roller coaster ride because there are a lot of ups and downs, thrills and spills. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Rachel--welcome. That is super impressive #dtk12chat
    In reply to @RKonops
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    I think that experimentation is like a box of chocolates because you never know what you might get--it could be awesome or it could be terrible #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: Experimentation is like playing poker because sometimes you can bluff your way to a win #dtk12chat
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Thanks Jessica… not sure how long I can stay but I’m trying :) #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1 Experimentation is like baking without a recipe because it opens the door to new ingredients #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Nice! Fake it until you make it. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:12 PM EST
    love this... BC sometimes the sand is a good memory and sometimes irritating #dtk12chat
    In reply to @scitechyEDU, @msjlura
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Rapidly Experiment: the ability to quickly generate ideas, whether written, drawn, or built. Q3: What are some examples of when you’ve been asked to rapidly experiment? #DTK12CHAT
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    And it never completely goes away #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @scitechyEDU
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I am always so wary :) #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Very much so! Hey Jill i meant to reply to your tweet on my blog post about loading kilns…(yet can’t find the tweet) I think you are onto something abt drawers & kilns Thank you for reading & responding to the post #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @msjlura
  • urbie - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A3a I’m learning how to grill through a #CUEmasterclass .. gonna be doing some (hopefully) char-less #eduMEAT experiments the next few weeks
    • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:13 PM EST
      Rapidly Experiment: the ability to quickly generate ideas, whether written, drawn, or built. Q3: What are some examples of when you’ve been asked to rapidly experiment? #DTK12CHAT
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    nice, had same thought; we had friends over and did our own version of chopped for dessert. Each team picked 3 ingredients for the other team to use #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: Experimentation is like going on a road trip without a map because you’ll have some bumps along the way & may not actually arrive at your destination. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: Experimentation is like hockey because you never know what the game will hold #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Of course - always interested in your thoughts! Plus was interesting since I had just watched my friend do exactly what you described! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @scitechyEDU, @msjlura
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Umm... I may have mis-numbered my questions--there's no #2 #dtk12chat
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1b: Experimentation is like asking your family to help you fill in the blanks because you never know what they're going to say #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:17 PM EST
    whew! Was thinking things were moving faster than usual! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A3 Not sure anyone ever asks me to rapidly experiment but I do it anyway! #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:18 PM EST
    It's just the craziness of the week. I have them written on my doc with no number two there. Oops :) #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    & might have some unexpected finds on the way! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @RKonops, @msjlura
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Q4: What do you think holds students (and adults) back when asked to quickly generate ideas, whether written, drawn, or built? #DTK12CHAT
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:22 PM EST
    My students definitely struggle with brainstorming and wanting the "correct answer" or the best brainstorm (as if there was one correct answer) #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A4 Rapid experimenting is thwarted by the question (whether it is articulated or internalized): "Is this right?" #dtk12chat self-doubt, fear of criticism or failure, lack of trust in the process
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A4 Fear of all kinds #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    How did you support them in becoming strong design thinkers #dtk12chat?
    In reply to @dteuber
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A4: At least for me, the idea of failing (or my idea failing) holds me back #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A4: Self-doubt and jumping to worrying about how to actually execute idea rather than embracing possibilities of idea. I've also observed recently the 'yes &' difference as well as the + affects of group brainstorming vs individual #dtk12chat
  • T_HEB Dec 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3 We find ourselves rapidly experimenting during hands on learning experiences. Though there is planning involved once you get rolling it is hard to stop. Recreating scenes from our lit book using legos and stop motion had us trying new things. #dtk12chat
  • Ms_Cerda - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A3: Everyday as admin at a new campus. I’m currently looking at re-designing a school cafeteria and rethinking how to move from student discipline to student development #help #restorativepractices #dtk12chat
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:24 PM EST
    A4 Students are conditioned to follow the rules and get the right answers. Experimentation is scary. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    How might we over come our feel of failure when generating ideas or rapidly experimenting? #dtk12chat
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A4 judgment, fear of failure/embarrassment/getting it wrong, Pressure of coming up w/ an answer(any answer), Mind freeze, waste of time 2 come up w/ lots of ideas (Does NOT see value in riffing for volume) Slow or Reflective Processors do not thrive in time constraints #dtk12chat
  • T_HEB Dec 19 @ 9:25 PM EST
    A4 Hesitation stems from self doubt stemming from the idea that there is only one right answer and the one generated can't be it. Experimentation is the cultivation of ideas, of possibilities! #dtk12chat
  • Ms_Cerda - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A4: The stakes being so high. Experimentation for me can have consequences(good or bad) for 300+ kiddos 😬#DTK12CHAT
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A4: Fear of being vulnerable. So much goes back to the feelings surrounding the level of discomfort in “not getting it perfect.” #DTK12Chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:27 PM EST
    I was working with teacher of entrepreneurship class, she wanted S's to profile successful entrepreneurs... I suggested they tell the story of the person's failures, not successes and use that to prove why it was important to understand their process. S's loved it! #DTK12Chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    That's so cool. What a great reframe #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    To overcome fear: I haven't tried it, but I've read of asking ss to come up with worst ideas in brainstorming to help break ice and get flow going. Also think lots of practice in low-stress situations #dtk12chat
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
    Support students by providing a safe space for experimenting and encouraging iteration on projects. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    what a great lens to see the person through! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Q5: So with so many things holding us/students back, what types of activities/learning experiences can we do in our classroom/school to support students in learning how rapidly experiment? #DTK12CHAT
  • urbie - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Vulnerability, yeah. Sunday I took my drone up to San Saba, Texas to see if it could help #archaeologists from @Gault_School locate places to excavate.. #dtk12chat ..i got some good shots but too high to really help https://t.co/vkFkQUgyBV
    In reply to @RKonops, @Gault_School
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Overcoming fear of failure is a hard thing to do especially for Ss. As Ts I think we need to create an atmosphere where failure is seen as a bump in the road, rather than the end. Personally just knowing that failure is an aspect of success has always been hard #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Round-robin brainstorming. Two minutes to add to an idea and then rotate, keep going, then no one and everyone owns the ideas; low-risk, how output #dtk12chat
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A4 Some people dont know how 2 brainstorm or have experienced its value- Never shown nor taught. Case in point 2 brainstorm multiple ideas is not viewed as productive or useful #dtk12chat If not practiced/nurtured in culture of school, why try even once! Never gets off the ground
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:30 PM EST
    #dtk12chat
    • mrehlander Dec 19 @ 9:28 PM EST
      Maintaining empathy and embracing and celebrating vulnerability
      In reply to @msjlura
  • Gen_Kilpatrick Dec 19 @ 9:32 PM EST
    a4: we've been doing alot of work with growth mindset and it's really helped the kids be less stressed about giving a wrong answer or not doing something right #dtk12chat
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    One way: generate ideas with people who inspire you/you trust/feel most comfortable with. Could also try “low-risk, failure-focused exercises” as a team...that way, everyone is sure to goof up & sees it’s okay! Example: juggle 5 plastic spoons for one minute. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A5: building in time for weekly challenges that build community; 30 circle challenge, lots of #MorningMeeting activities do this too #dtk12chat
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A5: I read about this game called Pepper in Teach like a Champion by Doug Lemov. The point is to warm call students and keep them on their toes. You're asking them review questions and topics can switch at any moment #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Study rough drafts with students instead of final drafts... like the Declaration of Independence and Picasso paintings and Michelangelo sketches... study the process, not the product #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:34 PM EST
    We (the adults) did a couple of iterations of a fail club--meeting at bar to talk about our most spectacular failures from the week-- trying to set the tone of risk-taking is acceptable & stuff happens #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • T_HEB Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 Embed creative responses & time constraints in other parts of the day. I use a morning mtg format and we get up & move to physically create. From day one we see there is more than 1 right answer & that we can build off of one another's ideas. Not always on paper. #dtk12chat
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A5 I love the ideas of design sprints for students. Use time constraints to push for rapid learning and experimenting. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Oh--I like juggle plastic spoons-- low floor activity with no real expectation that you'd be good at it previously--any other favorites? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @RKonops
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Love the sound of this idea! Do you think something similar could work for students too? Or would it lead them to only focusing on their failures rather than successes? #ElonEd #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:36 PM EST
    Hi #dtk12chat! A bit late but better than never :)
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    The other day, my colleagues and I had to build a replica of the Statue of Liberty in 1 minute using only binder clips and small post-its. It was pretty hilarious! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    It's all about context... share your worst idea and then let's "yes, and..." until it is the best idea #dtk12chat "worst" idea just means it is the starting point. Only failure if it is also the stopping point.
    In reply to @zoe_grove16, @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Love that! I once had the c team of a company stand in a circle, state a failure from last week out loud then take a bow. Always started with “we did...” n I pushed them to say “I..”. The stigma is real. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • mrehlander Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A5: creating routines and practice where ss get to quickly brainstorm low risk ideas #wouldyourather #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I will sometimes stop students 1/2 way to share things they discovered that didn't work; tell them knowing what doesn't work is just as, if not more important; sharing so others can learn from our mistakes is how we support our community #dtk12chat
    In reply to @zoe_grove16, @msjlura, @MsJWhiting
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I think that there is definite value in sharing failures, especially if the teacher is willing to model & participate. I think that ability to laugh at yourself is really important & so sharing ridiculous failures is a great way to break the ice #dtk12chat
    In reply to @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Fail is also often reframed as First Attempt in Learning and so if you focus on the learning with the students (and "what came next") it feels appropriate #dtk12chat
    In reply to @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    Using improv activities opens the door for experimentation. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @RKonops
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: See Sam's video #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:39 PM EST
    super interesting ... there is value in owning it #dtk12chat
    In reply to @EmanAboulatta, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • scitechyEDU - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A5 Set short time spurts 4TCS Think, Create, Show -Have Prototype materials available -Let Ss choose their medium/platform 2 create & share work -Create & Live a Culture of Prototyping. Treat everything as a prototype gives Ss & Ts AirCover 2 try, messup & try again #dtk12chat
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Definitely agree that teacher modeling behaviour is super important -- allows students to model what they see and can help set them up for success #ElonEd #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Yes but I think it’s imp to give them tools to guide them through what happens next. What if ppl laugh at them? If they don’t get the part in the play? Or they don’t do well on test. Fear of failure is often cuz we feel stuck afterwards #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I am HORRIBLE at improv so it definitely helps me keep a beginner mindset #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber, @RKonops
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    yes and.. is a teaching technique we've talked about in class before! Love the idea and is something I'm more than excited to implement in my future classroom #ElonEd #dtk12chat
    In reply to @mrehlander, @MsJWhiting, @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    True... I show them this: https://t.co/YIS1pwCkQL It never gets old. And he failed in front of millions of people at the stadium and watching on TV. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @EmanAboulatta, @msjlura, @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:42 PM EST
    And by helping guide them through it, it normalizes the process into a learning process. Any favorite tips/tools, @EmanAboulatta ? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @EmanAboulatta, @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting, @EmanAboulatta
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Yes! We tried the Bad Idea Brainstorm w/Ts a few weeks ago...it was a great start, though still really difficult for them to share terrible ideas! I wonder how it would’ve gone had we used a lighter challenge question instead of something heavy..we’ll keep trying! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Words of wisdom from @MsJWhiting: Only failure if it is also the stopping point #dtk12chat
    • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:37 PM EST
      It's all about context... share your worst idea and then let's "yes, and..." until it is the best idea #dtk12chat "worst" idea just means it is the starting point. Only failure if it is also the stopping point.
      In reply to @zoe_grove16, @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    ohhh would you rather is a great one! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @mrehlander
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:44 PM EST
    Q6: Rapid experimenting can be generating ideas quickly. Students often struggle with suspending judgement. What types of activities/learning experiences help? #DTK12CHAT
  • zoe_grove16 Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Have to pop out a little early tonight but I've really enjoyed the chat! Lots of great ideas and mindsets going around. Hopefully I can join next Wednesday or sometime soon #ElonEd #dtk12chat
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Sometimes I suggest the students draw what it would look like if the problem they were solving went away or never existed... in those drawings they find their ideas for solutions; remove the word failure from the discussion #dtk12chat
    In reply to @RKonops, @GHSTEAMchic
  • urbie - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    #a4 Culture.. ours frowns on fails. I think laughter helps get over the #oopsies .. see https://t.co/Za4AYdX5VS #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:46 PM EST
    Exactly! Repurposing the 5 why’s from DT empathy tools:3 why’s behind failure + 3 things you’ll do to move fwd. also: “keep/toss/learn/work on” reflection on behavior. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • ElaBenUr Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Ela from Cambridge, MA catching #dtk12chat late—thanks to end-of-year activities...but excited to catch even a bit of @msjlura's modding!
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Zoe--thanks for joining! We're always here at #dtk12chat & with a live chat again in January on Wednesdays, 6pm PST
    In reply to @zoe_grove16
  • hmoreyEDU Dec 19 @ 9:47 PM EST
    30 circles challenge is a great way to get to know how someone else thinks #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Welcome, Ela! We're happy to even have you for a couple of minutes #dtk12chat
    In reply to @ElaBenUr
  • urbie - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:48 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A6a At #CUENV18 I saw a couple of teachers share their #failfriday #knowhow.. check this stuff out.. https://t.co/CyKkPNNtFn via @NettiFarrar @4evrALearner
    In reply to @msjlura, @NettiFarrar, @4evrALearner
  • ElaBenUr Dec 19 @ 9:49 PM EST
    I love this! I also love reiterating the iterate piece. What will you try to observe now, as you experiment? What new observations, design principles, ideas, and experiments will you discover (because you never know until you try, failure is the best teacher, etc.). #dtk12chat
    In reply to @EmanAboulatta, @msjlura, @zoe_grove16, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • hmoreyEDU Dec 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Just popped in for the last few minutes! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:50 PM EST
    What if students and teachers refrain from using the "F" word for a week? If we stop saying failure, we start thinking differently about process because we are describing it differently. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Any thoughts on the use of the word "failure" vs "learn" vs "mistake" (fail fast vs learn fast) etc? I tend to not use the world failure w/ students (just with myself :) #dtk12chat
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    wonder if it's a HS thing, don't feel like we use the word 'fail' very much in K-5 in general #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting
  • mrehlander Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A6:Are there bad ideas or just not right for the moment/context ? #dtk12chat
  • RKonops Dec 19 @ 9:51 PM EST
    A6: Having students learn to use “I like...” “I wish...” “I wonder...” in giving high-quality feedback to their peers. #dtk12chat
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    A6 I like to have everyone create a storyboard with their perfect story. This sets the stage for building on ideas and prototyping. #dtk12chat
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Aha! Love the reframe #dtk12chat
    In reply to @mrehlander
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    agree, just said same comment to @MsJWhiting #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @MsJWhiting
  • MsJWhiting Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    that might be true... our vocabulary is learned and says so much about our culture. It is part of the routines that we internalize unconsciously... change the routine and change the culture/ mindset. Right @dteuber ? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @dteuber
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Donna--can you explain more? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @dteuber
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    I think using the word fail and taking away its power is the way to go. Inlife, they’ll be faced with it, n they should have the self efficacy to deal with it. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    That's a really good one. Totally made me 'huh, never thought about that' #dtk12chat
    In reply to @mrehlander
  • ElaBenUr Dec 19 @ 9:54 PM EST
    #dtk12chat A6 The can start with an idea they have, and change the who, what, when, where, how, how long, how much...A little—or a lot (going crazy on these, like what if it used [insert random word], or what if it took 1second/10years, etc. is what most brainstorming methods do.
    In reply to @msjlura
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:56 PM EST
    I once a heard a really interesting talk by Tom Chi (who used to be the head of google x & has a lot of stuff on prototyping) about research around the word "failure" & how it makes us shut down but haven't ever found anything else on it #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • hmoreyEDU Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A colleague and I developed a would you rather 2.0 to help students focus in on their individual strengths and passions. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @GHSTEAMchic, @mrehlander
  • urbie - Moderator Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Sharknado shoulda been another phrase for “it ain’t gonna fly".. i heard somewhere that of all the ideas to take off Sharknado had no chance. it’d be a fail. but it didn’t work out that way #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura
  • ElaBenUr Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I love this. What if challenges, and taking more than one shot to overcome them, were just accepted the norm in life/school (vs. "failure")—especially when people are stretching themselves in good ways? #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @GHSTEAMchic, @dteuber
  • msjlura Dec 19 @ 9:57 PM EST
    One learns by experiencing (benefit of rapid prototyping): https://t.co/0FErM9YjIR #dtk12chat
  • EmanAboulatta Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    We came up with the “glorious” vs. sad failure. Glorious: learned from it, like riding bike. Sad: gave up. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @GHSTEAMchic, @MsJWhiting
  • dteuber Dec 19 @ 9:58 PM EST
    So true! Our words set the stage for how we engage with the world. #dtk12chat
    In reply to @MsJWhiting, @GHSTEAMchic
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    also makes me wonder what is actual context of true 'failure' other than HS courses? In 'real life' if we get fired from a job do we say we 'failed'? We use it comically & w/meme's 'selfie fail'; I frequently use the phrase 'mom fail' w/my kids #dtk12chat
    In reply to @msjlura, @MsJWhiting
  • GHSTEAMchic Dec 19 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Wow - what an awesome tool! #dtk12chat
    In reply to @hmoreyEDU, @mrehlander