#mschat Archive

A chat that offers middle school teachers a chance to have a collaborative discussion about a different topic each week. Our topics change from week to week, ranging from Common Core State Standards to Character Education. During the chat, participants exchanges ideas and resources. The chat group ranges in size each week from 10 to 50+ participants. Discussion can be general talking about instructional style or process to specific. Recently members of the chat group help each other create lessons.

Thursday September 6, 2018
8:00 PM EDT

  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #mschat about Finding Balance, Thanks for joining in the conversation
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Let's start with introductions, I am Todd 7th grade science teacher from Warren, MI trying to balance work and life with my 3 active children. #mschat
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:01 PM EDT
    Hi I’m Jove a MA Principal from MO balance is a constant struggle for me #mschat
  • PegGrafwallner Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Peg, Instructional Coach/Reading Specialist, excited to join #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Don — Middle school principal from Long Island -so great to be here with all these amazing middle level rockstar educators #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hey all, I'm Erin, 7th grade math teacher from Northern CT #mschat
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi Todd, I am in Bob Sinclair's EDUC 502 class. #mschat
  • Dorli_Teacher Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    #mschat Hi Todd! Thanks for doing this chat!
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi, I'm Orit (Aureet) from NY excited to learn with all of you today #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    Hi, I am Bob, a high school principal in Maryland, teaching a graduate course in technology in education tonight! WE are excited to join you #mschat
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:02 PM EDT
    My name is Rodrigo Godinez @NMSMathCS and I am the Math Content Specialist at Neelsville Middle School in Germantown, MD #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    We will use a Q1... A1 format tonight ... planning on going a full hour this week since this topic will offer needs for deeper discussions #mschat
  • TWIteacher2 Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    My name is Sindy, a second grade Dual Language elementary school teacher #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Kenny Ward. HR director Bridge Creek in Oklahoma. Will forever be a middle school educator! #mschat
  • BMESTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    My name is Nicole and I am a 3rd grade teacher from Montgomery County, MD. #MSCHAT
  • MsHubbard124 Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi #mschat! Jordan from MI checking in.:) 8th grade language arts.
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi, Lisa here. Third grade teacher in EDUC 502 #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi Bob, I am an elementary school resource teacher in Maryland #mschat
  • KatjaArtTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    I'm Katja, art and fashion teacher at a High School in Maryland #mschat
  • Dorli_Teacher Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    #mschat I forgot to introduce myself- Dorli, special education teacher, working with K students.
  • spitzteacher Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi I’m Mariana 2nd Grade. EDUC502. #mschat
  • BrookeEisenbach Sep 6 @ 8:03 PM EDT
    Hi! Brooke from MA. Trying to balance work, family and occasional time for myself 😁#mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Questions are coming right up ... #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Good evening thanks for joining #mschat
    In reply to @hooblm00
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    John - ELA TOSA from WA #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Good evening Orit #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • Teacher_Ellen1 Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hey all! I'm a k-1 special education teacher in MD #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Jeremy Hyler here. Middle school english/science, author, and all around good guy. #mschat
  • TWIteacher2 Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hi, I'm Sindy a second grade Dual Language teacher #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Hey Erin Hope all is well #mschat
    In reply to @ScholesE15
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:04 PM EDT
    Good evening Son! #mschat
    In reply to @donald_gately
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Q1: How do you balance direct instruction with student discovery/ self guided learning? #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Hi Todd! Thanks for hosting #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Thanks Todd, happy to be here! #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:05 PM EDT
    Glad you could join in Ken! #mschat
    In reply to @kennethdward
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1: I think it's important to have the students guide how they learn. One way is to ask them in surveys or even posting questions on Google Classroom #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    A1: I feel that the direct instruction should come after the Ss have been allowed to inquire and discover. Sometimes it just depends on the content. #mschat
  • tsocko Sep 6 @ 8:06 PM EDT
    Can you draw a map of the world from memory? Awesome teamwork on this task. And never underestimate the value of the the continents and oceans songs kids learn in K and 1st grade! #worldgeochat #mschat @WMSRoom210 @wmsnatick
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: Both are valuable in the classroom. I try to start with for student discovery and self guided learning. Once students share what they have learned I use direct instructional methods to fill in gaps #mschat
  • cmt215il Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    HI #mschat! Christie in Chicago here--7th grade math.
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: It is important to make sure students have enough prior knowledge to make the discovery possible and challenging enough, but not frustrating to the point of wanting to "rage quite" (student words) #mschat
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1 great question interested to hear what classroom educators have to say this is an increasingly important question #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: Using a workshop model helps with the balance - teacher directed mini lesson, then giving Ss ownership and indiv conferences to support their learning/work #mschat
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:07 PM EDT
    A1: There needs to be explicit teaching and modeling, especially at the primary level. Then as you release responsibility to the students, they are able to collaborate and make discoveries independently and fluidly. #mschat #4Cs
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    Amen Orit!! #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1: I also do activators at the beginning of class with content that is being learned during the lesson. The students have an opportunity to be frustrated, have questions brew in their minds. Then, I direct teach. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1: Try to offer choice for students within my instructional plan. Try to balance my responsibility to teach certain standards at certain times with autonomy and choice. Not perfect, but works. #mschat
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1: dissecting the standards to determine where there are clear areas for exploration within an environment sometimes challenging the status quo to break down unnecessary boundaries group and self-imposed #mschat
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    We break our classes into three groups, based on scores, and do didactic instruction to some groups while other do exploration/discovery via chromebooks. Then we swap groups & tasks, It means writing three lessons per day, ( we have a block schedule) but it pays off. #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:08 PM EDT
    A1- Knowing your students is so important. Having taught in an exploratory model it is important to know where you need to guide, where you need to coach, and where you need to instruct. #mschat
  • KatjaArtTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: All three are important in my classroom. The balance comes from allowing all three to blend together without one being dominant. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1 agree with @oritgately Workshop model of pedagogy is most powerful approach. #mschat
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    Collaboration is so important as is the variety of it #MSChat
    In reply to @globalgreenbaum
  • spitzteacher Sep 6 @ 8:09 PM EDT
    A1: I agree with @Jeremybballer Sometimes you need to frontload vocabulary and exploration will come next. #mschat
  • Dorli_Teacher Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: I also do both. My students are not so good at exploring on their own- they have to be taught how to do that many times. They have to be shown how to interact with materials, what kind of answers to answer (a location to a where question for example). #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1 If we are responsive as educators then this question answers itself. We need to be responsive to the students in front of us. Teaching is not telling. #mschat
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    Do you use the Blended Learning model in which students select the path they'd like to travel to showing what they understand? #mschat
    In reply to @Beyond_the_Desk
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: We have implemented modeling instruction into our science classrooms. #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    This can be applied to multiple subject areas too #mschat
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:10 PM EDT
    A1: It always depends, but an example in literature is we read the Giver and Ss are able to choose a method in teaching me what they've learned every few chapters whether that be through art, essay, poetry, music, etc. I have guided directions, but there's choice. #mschat
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    For sure....building in the one to one conversations and making them the norm is key #MSChat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • Teacher_Ellen1 Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: Provide students with necessary supports (i.e. visuals) in order for them to be successful with discovery and self guided learning. Pre-teaching routines and modeling as well #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1. Direct instruction can be obtained during whole group instruction as well as in collaborative groups and independent work. #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    I like that you let kids get frustrated! Students need to make mistakes in order to learn #mschat
    In reply to @NMSMathCS
  • MsHubbard124 Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: In language arts, I tend to use the workshop model more frequently than others. I may tweak how much time I spend at each step, but I love the balance it provides. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    The learning is in the struggle. #mschat
    In reply to @globalgreenbaum, @NMSMathCS
  • cmt215il Sep 6 @ 8:11 PM EDT
    A1: I try to allow some form of student discovery/discussion in each lesson. Some new math concepts require more direct instruction because they are so foreign to the kids but I think it's always good for students to have a voice in the lesson. #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Hehe, so true, explicitly teaching how to explore! #mschat
    In reply to @Dorli_Teacher
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Freeing students within the discussion and tasks during a novel is powerful #MSChat
    In reply to @from_middle
  • DrBrianCook Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Brian—-gr6 ELA Teacher from Maryland joining in #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    Not formally. Instead, I offer different ways to develop and demonstrate mastery so students w/ diverse interests/needs have an appropriate fit for them. Somethimes I can lay out what mastery should look like & let them demonstrate it any way they see fit. #mschat
    In reply to @NMSMathCS
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:12 PM EDT
    agreed. we need greater personalization. workshop model allows #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • KatjaArtTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    In art we do a lot of self guided /studio time but we cannot dismiss direct instruction when we teach technical skills for example. it all depends what part of the unit you are in sometimes #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:13 PM EDT
    A1 I’m very excited by the potential of hyper docs to allow students to proceed asynchronously and for the teacher to workshop with kids as they work #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Q2: How does technology fit into balanced instruction in your classroom? #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    NowComment is another great digital tool. #mschat
    In reply to @donald_gately
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    Absolutely! And once you model the conferencing, you can then release responsibilities for S to S conferencing opportunities too #mschat
    In reply to @dr_helgeson
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:14 PM EDT
    A-1 We let the more proficient students explore with no previous instruction, because they tend to have more prior knowledge, and by working in a small group with the children with a lower knowledge base, we give them knowledge which builds confidence to explore. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: Here is an article from @edutopia on finding a balance with technology and teaching https://t.co/FZoWHjjxbc #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    @hoodgradschool #EDUC502 students growing their PLNs with their first ever Twitter chat #MSChat thanks @blocht574
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    Q2: There always need to be the "why?" asked when implementing technology. Technology should help students extend their learning. #mschat
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:15 PM EDT
    A2: it needs to be innovative and extend the learning...not just for composition #MSChat
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: Providing students with a choice as to how they show what they know or understand is crucial to learning. One of the variable is technology. And, even in technology, there should be choices: Flipgrid, Google Slides? #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: Good resources from @lkolb and @TripleEFrame on how to implement tech in the classroom. #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 Sep 6 @ 8:16 PM EDT
    A2: This Q is tough because it very much depends on the availability of technology. I am all for utilizing tools if they enhance the learning/lesson, but tech for the sake of tech doesn't help Ss. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: I wish we had a balance of technology integration in my instruction. We have access issues so when I can I imbed technology using a variety of tools #mschat
  • TWIteacher2 Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2 Being able to integrate various forms of technology to motivate students is such a powerful practice. We can't forget our multiple learning modalities #mschat
  • KatjaArtTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: If you want to keep up with our students we better learn to incorporate it wherever we can. So many tools to use in the art room but I wish we could have drawing tables and Apps to use on school devices; not just on their phones. #mschat
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A-2 We use technology both constantly and intermittently from class to class, to engage, further instruct and test student knowledge, while it concurrently gives us the opportunity to personally engage with small groups of children. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    We can't just use a tool because we think it is neat. #mschat
    In reply to @MsHubbard124
  • BMESTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: I try to get my students on Chromebooks at least once per day to practice typing skills, use an online reading platform, or respond to reading, etc. I've found that embedding technology in instruction keeps students engaged. #MSCHAT
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    A2: I like using technology when it can provide Ss instant feedback on their learning. Ts can do this too in the classroom in various ways, but for practice outside the classroom, tech can be there when I can't to inform Ss of their progress. #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
    @hoodgradschool #EDUC502 Educational Leadership students growing their PLNs and learning to use Twitter to network through #MSChat Twitter Chat with @blocht574
  • Dorli_Teacher Sep 6 @ 8:17 PM EDT
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2 I feel it gives students more freedom to explore different ideas or interests and gives a wider variety of how to present what you have learned. Allows teachers to personalize learning as well as provide some direct instruction and more immediate feedback #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2. Using the internet for inquiry projects. #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Absolutely! There has to be a greater purpose. Otherwise it's just a time suck. #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2: Finding balance on using what's necessary to use technology and not just using it for the sake of it. I'm at a one to one school, and it's definitely important to make sure that technology is enhancing a lesson or pushing students to be more creative/self-directed #mschat
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    Now that my students have Chromebooks, I push out their rotations in classroom or have them create bookmarks on the bookmark bar so that they can quickly log on and get started without wasting transition time #mschat #chromesavvy
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:18 PM EDT
    A2 in short when the lesson is more about the tech than the lesson we have a problem! Unless of course the lesson is on tech itself. #mschat
  • cmt215il Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: HyperDocs in Social Studies! They could work at their own pace on the activities of their choosing. In math we occasionally do flip lessons if a concept is something where sts may have a wide variety of prior knowledge. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: Tech allows me to discretely assign & distribute resources or assignments to different students based on need—everybody’s working, but no one needs to know who’s working on what. & auto grading gives them immediate feedback & lets me focus on instruction. #mschat
  • Dorli_Teacher Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2: For my students it is very important to allow them access to computers to make they at least can use the computer mouse and learn how to navigate the coputer. #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
    A2. Technology is a great tool to manage classroom behavior and give students instant feedback. #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2: Modeling for Ss use of certain tech tools (depending on the goals of the instruction) and then giving them opportunities to create content for themselves and peers. ie. green screens for Ss created movies, @GetKahoot @Flipgrid #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:20 PM EDT
    A2- technology should be used as a tool to support and enhance the learning. There is great power with technology to support making learning come alive, but there is also the potential of using technology as over priced worksheets #mschat
  • MsHubbard124 Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2: I will say that when access was consistently available, Google Classroom & Google Forms transformed my formative assessments. The platform was so accessible & easy to format to fit the needs of the unit. #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    I agree. I just don't like the fact that some tools are used because they just have the neat factor. Lol! #mschat
    In reply to @JoveStickel, @MsHubbard124
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    What are some waysyou use tech to manage behavior? #mschat
    • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:19 PM EDT
      A2. Technology is a great tool to manage classroom behavior and give students instant feedback. #mschat
  • Teacher_Ellen1 Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2: Technology allows my students to interact with the curriculum in a way that is accessible and engaging. My students are highly motivated by the activities I create on the Promethean board; it encourages them to be active participants #mschat
  • spitzteacher Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2: be purposefully in using tech. Should move away form just a publishing tool. Sometimes it’s hard bc of lack of time or resources #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:21 PM EDT
    A2 Alan November says that technology should be valued for its ability for students to access information and connect with others in ways they cannot do without the technology #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:22 PM EDT
    Or an over priced babysitter! #mschat.
    • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:20 PM EDT
      A2- technology should be used as a tool to support and enhance the learning. There is great power with technology to support making learning come alive, but there is also the potential of using technology as over priced worksheets #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    Q3: How do you balance Formative and Summantive assessments in your instruction? #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2 example: Tomorrow some students need to retake an assessment. Google classroom lets me post it to individual students. All students will be working on their Chromebooks, some on extension activities, others remediation and retesting. We use them ALL day! #mschat
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2: I also love being able to use technology to help with assessments and grading because as every teacher knows it's so easy to get bogged down in trying to grade a million assignments. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    I love @ClassDojo. #mschat
    In reply to @kennethdward, @ClassDojo
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:23 PM EDT
    A2. Technology can be used as a green tool. Students can submit work via the internet, thus saving a tree. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: Start with formative assessments, once students seem to be understanding concepts and doing well on formative tools (ungraded) move to summative assessments. #mschat
  • TWIteacher2 Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2 Trying to get k-2 students to utilize Chromebooks IS self-discovery already.. but once they have it the rest is history #mschat
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A2 part 2: Technology needs to taught to the teachers before giving it to the students! Many educators/admin ask us to balance class time with digital literacy but then don't use it themselves. #mschat #needmorepd
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    A3: I give format assessments at the beginning of units & lessons and also on a daily basis. Summative assessments are typically given as check points or at the end of units. #mschat
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:24 PM EDT
    Andrew Maxey, mountain climber, jumping into #mschat late. Happy New Year middle school friends!
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: Formative assessments in math give us a more immediate idea of what students can do lesson to lesson, and the summative assesments are a great indicator of the knowledge that the students absorbed over a period of time #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: I think "balance" is a funny word to use when thinking about formative vs summative, I feel like I am constantly using formative assessment... even a summative can become formative. #mschat
  • cmt215il Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: I try to incorporate several small formative assessments/checks in each lesson to gauge student learning. Having a Smartboard slate and being able to walk around the room while writing on the board is also so helpful to see how each student is doing during the lesson. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3 Most assessment should be formative don’t you think? For middle school students, when is it really over? I guess there is a point where we have to put a grade on the report card but #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:25 PM EDT
    A3: I do “academics checkups” for each individual sub-skill within a standard or topic (formative)—once a week w/ retakes as needed. This drives my instructional choices. Formative once unit is completed. Far less often. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:26 PM EDT
    A3 summarize assessment should happen almost non-stop. Summative gives you the end measure for that lesson, section, chapter etc. just make sure you collect data all along the way. #mschat
  • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3) All assessment is both formative and summarize. It’s how we use it, not what we call it. Whenever a kid “gets it” we need to move on. Whenever a kid doesn’t “get it” we must adjust. Timelines don’t matter. Mastery does. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3 If a student came to you after a so-called summative assessment and said he wanted to demonstrate he achieved the standard, how can we say no to that? #mschat
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: Can I start with snark and opine that for all our talk about summative/formative, the role of grading practices in our students’ learning has not substantively improved most of us #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: Most of my assessments are formative. I do not want students learning for the sake of a grade, but for the sake of being a learner #mschat
  • Teacher_Ellen1 Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
    A3: In terms of formative vs summative, I feel as though i am continually assessing on a daily basis and this helps guide my instruction for the days and weeks to come. Assessment is on-going. #mschat
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3: I have used Plickers as checks for understanding in the middle of lessons. These type of formative checks have helped me get an idea of which student is making what mistakes... and who I need to go talk to! #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    well said!!!! #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    A3: Most of the work is formative. It should guide the direction and exploration of the social, emotional, and academic skills of students. Summative assessments are not as frequent. #MSChat #MSChat
  • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:28 PM EDT
    3) Assessment should always drive Instruction, not conclude it. #mschat
  • TWIteacher2 Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    A3 Formatives are ongoing and sometimes given weekly/daily (exit tickets) and then this data is used to drive immediate instruction. Summatives are and the end of a unit/semester/month etc. Also, formatives usually weigh less than summatives #mschat
  • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:29 PM EDT
    3) I love to ask: How do you know if a kid is ready to test? If you KNOW he’s ready, does he need the test. If you don’t KNOW, then it’s setting a child up for failure to test. Both are educational malpractice #mschat
  • globalgreenbaum Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Tell that to our data collection tools #mschat
    In reply to @daveschmittou
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Totally agree #mschat
    In reply to @dr_helgeson
  • cmt215il Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    Speaking of assessments... I need to hop out of this chat and grade some math quizzes. I will catch up on the chat later! Thanks for the great conversation, everyone! #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:30 PM EDT
    IMO the best formative assessing is achieved and the students don’t even know they are being assessed! #TrueMeasurement. #mschat
  • KatjaArtTeacher Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3; In art is is a tough balance to keep since we automatically fall back on summative assessments and put all of our projects under that umbrella. Formative assessment is just as important because it allows us to scaffold the art project #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Love how you stated this! #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3: I do a substantial amount of formative assessments. I think most teachers do because that is the data used to plan the next course of action with concepts needing to be taught and how. #mschat
  • KFernandez_SEM Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    A3: The key is knowing what your students can do and can’t do. Formative and summative assessments are our window into responsive teaching #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:31 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining in #mschat
    In reply to @cmt215il
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Q4:In what ways do you balance compliance and engagement into your classroom? #mschat
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    Formative should be for the purpose of checking the state of things in order to make great decisions about what to do next. Like watching your surroundings and mirrors while driving. Summative is for making judgments at certain points. Like a driving test. #mschat
  • KFernandez_SEM Sep 6 @ 8:32 PM EDT
    A3: it’s about seeing what kids can do independently and then drive your instruction based on your noticing. Formative assessments are the KEY! #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4: I find compliance is needed to get to engagement as I talked about in this post: https://t.co/kw947oYU4S #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    I think you may agree - we want our Ss to build intrinsic motivations to be life long learners. A focus on grades does not cultivate that type of mindset #mschat
    In reply to @donald_gately
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4: I tend to always focus on engagement... and building relationships will save you from thinking about compliance :-) #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A3. We are living in the screen generation. This generation of students are born in to the ever evolving technology that this is one of the best ways to engage them. #mschat
  • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    Bam bam double bam. We call it cheating when a kid copies off his peers but give him an “A” when he copies off of us. #mschat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4 It shouldn’t be about compliance. Classrooms thrive on routine is that allow us all to succeed #mschat
  • hooblm00 Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A-4 Do what I am supposed to do in increasingly more creative ways. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:33 PM EDT
    A4 compliance happens because of engagement. If we are spending very much time talking about compliance we are probably already off the rails. #mschat
  • Blake_Principal Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    Thanks @blocht574 we need to move on in class, but we learned a ton!! #mschat
  • dr_helgeson Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: It is sometimes difficult to know, but it is important to constantly try to move Ss beyond compliance #MSChat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: I feel compliance needs to be established first. Most of that comes from daily routine where Ts don't have to worry about compliance and focus on engaging the Ss. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4: My content may not always engage each and every student. That’s just honest truth. But the package I put that content in can! I aim for active mental & physical engagement for every student. #mschat
  • KatinaSane Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    A4. Compliance and engagement can be achieved when you let students take ownership of it. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:34 PM EDT
    I feel we have to have compliance to get to engagement: if students can’t follow rules and expectations how can you engage them in what you need them to learn? #mschat
    In reply to @NMSMathCS
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    A4: Giving Ss choices lead to engagement bc they are complying with their own decision making #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    We are very limited if they are doing it because we said so. When they want to do what we say they automatically are going to learn more. #mschat
  • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    4) engagement does not require rebellion. When I play sports I have to follow the rules but must also be fully engaged in the process to make the most the opportunity. #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    I agree, not compliance for compliance sake, but students wanting to engage and participate because they understand and believe in what is expected of them. #mschat
    In reply to @KatinaSane
  • TheeMrMoore Sep 6 @ 8:36 PM EDT
    -Nate, teacher-leader, tech coordinator, I’ve ran a few half marathons. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Q5: How do you balance relationships to not show favoritism? #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    But it’s cyclical. A students who’s engaged will readily comply w/ any directive or expectation you lay out. One, then the other, over and over again. #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574, @NMSMathCS
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    Well put! Engagement and compliance go hand in hand ... as long as focus is not just on following the rules but actually doing something meaningful! #mschat
    In reply to @daveschmittou
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:37 PM EDT
    A5: getting tired and a little punchy... can't they all be my favorite?!? #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A5: Strong relationships with students are key. I try to show all students I care about them, hoping not to show any favoritism. #mschat Not allowing any single student to dominate all my time
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A5 This is a great question but we need students to understand that we don’t treat everyone the same. We give kids what they need #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A5: I talk to every student. Even students who may not speak-up in class. Every student deserves a mentor and positive role model. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A5 Good parents master this art every day. We need to do this with our students as well. #mschat
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    I agree with a caveat. My observation has been that often times we focus so hard on compliance (based on past experience for sure) that we forget why it even matters. Compliance itself becomes the point. Even in our grading. #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574, @NMSMathCS
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:38 PM EDT
    A4: Compliance to me just has to do with classroom management; Engagement has to do with my lesson and whether or not I've got students' focus #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5: I explained when I gad a 2nd kid, my bucket of love didn’t get divided between 2 kids. My 2nd kid got his own bucket. It’s like that. Each kid has their own bucket. #mschat
  • KFernandez_SEM Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A4: the classroom needs to be established as a community from the onset. Establish routines to foster independence and compliance will grow organically. it’s about the mindset of ‘our’ classroom #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    I disagree they are engaged in their Agenda vs our agenda ... #mschat but see where you are coming from
    In reply to @NMSMathCS, @Beyond_the_Desk
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:39 PM EDT
    A5 Intentionality important as well. How do we keep track of our interactions with kids. Could be as simple as index cards or popsicle sticks. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 I guess if you are truly attempting to form relationships with all S’s, even the hard to get along with ones, you shouldn’t have much trouble being accused of favoritism. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Do they see it that way? #mschat Yes it is hard but some students see relationships as favoritism if teachers aren’t careful
    In reply to @ScholesE15
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    Or create a spreadsheet to keep track. I started doing this and it helps greatly. #mschat
    In reply to @donald_gately
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A5 I always think building relationships is what we do with all people my connection with one child is with super hero’s with another S it could be sports. They line between the two is being GENUINE with all relationships #mschat
  • TheeMrMoore Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
    A4: This is a great question @blocht574 - I’m a fan of engagement over compliance. If students are engaged then compliance is secondary. #mschat
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5: This is such a great question because all students think teachers do pick favorites. I try to invest in my students on a personal level by getting to know them beyond just academics, and I really try to focus on different students daily. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    yes! love my google forms! #mschat
    In reply to @Jeremybballer
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5: Super important. This requires taking the time to express interest and invest in each kid. A habit of genuine interactions keeps me from focusing on a few kids - which further deepens my relationship with them while starving my relationship with others #mschat
  • shighley Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    A5: Tech can make it easier to reach out to Ss in ways to be sure you are connecting with all of them, while at the same time, making it easier for the more introverted Ss to reach out to you. #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:41 PM EDT
    Teach like a champion strategies have helped me be more aware of and intentional about who I call on. #mschat
    In reply to @donald_gately
  • DrBrianCook Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A5: Servant Leadership: Always ask "what else can I help you with" to everyone #mschat
  • KFernandez_SEM Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A5: it’s always about how we make our students feel! Kids are attuned to this. It’s our responsibility to make all of them feel like they are our favorites. Relationships are key! #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    I think you have really challenged my thinking here. I try to engage and build those relationships with all students, and a group as a whole. I haven't really thought about favoritism being a negative outcome of doing so. #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:42 PM EDT
    A5: Relationships with students is our primary focus at my school, which has created a really great atmosphere for parents, teachers, and students. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:43 PM EDT
    Important to go above and beyond w/ the ones that are susceptible to feeling left out? Hard to handle the ones that are more interested in being the victim than participating in a relationship. #mschat
    • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:40 PM EDT
      Do they see it that way? #mschat Yes it is hard but some students see relationships as favoritism if teachers aren’t careful
      In reply to @ScholesE15
  • TheeMrMoore Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5: Try to spend time everyday getting to know all of my Ss - in the hallways, passing time, in between lunches, taking an extra minute here or there a big part of my day. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    I bet you are just so go at it and intentional it isn’t an issue for you! #mschat I have observed some teacher build so great relationships but with just a few they do get accusations of favoritism
    In reply to @ScholesE15
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:44 PM EDT
    A5: Each child has their own individual, unique needs in the classroom. As educators, we need to build relationships with the individual in mind. It's the same idea as in the book #Culturized by @casas_jimmy fairness is not always equal #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Q6: What strategies do you have to balance professional life with personal life? #mschat mine seem to blend together
  • NMSMathCS Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    A5: Well, there's always the 27 Equitable Practices... but, seriously, if you are being equitable you will maximize your chances of not playing favorites.#mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:45 PM EDT
    Relationships must be genuine -- thinking of this Adam Grant podcast https://t.co/KhnDqSXDzs #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    A6: Schedule times on your calendar for school work or reading. Then, when the time is up, stop what you are doing. Try to exercise for at least 15 min too. It helps. #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
    No, good to think about and be aware of. I have never been accused of such, but it doesn't mean a kid hasn't felt it. #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6 very much worklife integration here. @dmgately #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5: Relationships are also built from conferring w Ss one on one. Gives Ts and Ss opportunities to talk for a few minutes with a focused attention on just that Ss #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A5 my wife@is@also an educator so our life’s have always been totally blended. My kids were always just part of it. We decorated classrooms together, games together. My first grandchild was born 2 weeks ago so we will see how this chapter goes! #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    A6: Making myself leave school at a certain time is my biggest. & weighing when to bring work home (at least I’m w/ my family) vs not bringing work home (respect family time). #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:47 PM EDT
    Congrats! #mschat
    In reply to @kennethdward
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Perceptions are everything for these kids #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574, @ScholesE15
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Valid. #mschat
    In reply to @ScholesE15, @blocht574
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    I do run every morning before work! #mschat.
    • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:46 PM EDT
      A6: Schedule times on your calendar for school work or reading. Then, when the time is up, stop what you are doing. Try to exercise for at least 15 min too. It helps. #mschat
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A6 ok my Achilles heel has surfaced I’ve tried all kinds of things taken u hobbies of all kinds, scheduling time to meditate, putting time on my calendar just for me that I make non negotiable. I even tried establishing rules for me to to stop school work No success yet #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    And adults. ;) #mschat
    In reply to @oritgately, @blocht574, @ScholesE15
  • ezigbo_ Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    Q6: Über critical. My strategy is not to check work email at night period. A more mind-based strategy is to remind myself that public education got on fine without me for a long time and will be here long after I’m gone. My kids will only be children once though. #mschat
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:48 PM EDT
    A6: This is so hard because the truth of the matter is we could all spend all of our time working on bettering our craft as teachers, BUT that's not healthy. I go in stages on both ends. I have yet to find a perfect balance. #mschat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:49 PM EDT
    How are you going about it? #mschat
    In reply to @from_middle
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Yes limiting access to work endeavors is a must when on family time #mschat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Names are SO hard for me and I tell the kids that. I do worry that they will feel hurt that I can't remember their name... sometimes I mess up one that I have gotten right a bunch before on purpose, so the kids see that I just simply struggle.(Don't tell them!!) #mschat
    In reply to @blocht574
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
    Exactly #mschat I binge both ways! Summer time is for family
    In reply to @from_middle
  • JoveStickel Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    @blocht574 I need to head out but THANK YOU for a great chat tonight! #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:51 PM EDT
    Can’t remember names to save my life! #mschat.
    • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:50 PM EDT
      Names are SO hard for me and I tell the kids that. I do worry that they will feel hurt that I can't remember their name... sometimes I mess up one that I have gotten right a bunch before on purpose, so the kids see that I just simply struggle.(Don't tell them!!) #mschat
      In reply to @blocht574
  • TheeMrMoore Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    A6: There’s always a little overlap, but plenty of time away from technology, reading for fun, exercise, plenty of good music, but still lots of professional conversations too help grow a good practice. #mschat
  • BrettSonntag Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    I’m a big fan of formative assessment! Both students and teachers need feedback for a positive classroom climate. #mschat #formativeassessment
    • daveschmittou Sep 6 @ 8:27 PM EDT
      A3) All assessment is both formative and summarize. It’s how we use it, not what we call it. Whenever a kid “gets it” we need to move on. Whenever a kid doesn’t “get it” we must adjust. Timelines don’t matter. Mastery does. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:52 PM EDT
    You helped make it happen Thanks for joining in #mschat
    In reply to @JoveStickel
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Final Q7: How do twitter chats help with your balance? #mschat
  • Beyond_the_Desk Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    Speaking of balance, it’s time to go read Harry Potter (book 7!) with my kids. Thanks, #mschat!
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A7: For me, Twitter chats give me a shot in the arm throughout the year so I can stay on top of my teaching game. #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6 having a non-teaching spouse #mschat makes me put Work and Family on a calendar and attempt to not mix all the time
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:53 PM EDT
    A6: Suggestions welcomed! This is definitely a work in progress area. Being mindful of the daily schedule in order to carve out time for personal and professional life #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A7: Twitter chats help balance my thinking, giving me positive reinforcement in a relatively judgement free zone. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A7 not sure how they help me balance but they do help feed the fire! #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:54 PM EDT
    A6: Family first, and realizing grading/planning can and will happen. #mschat
    In reply to @kennethdward
  • EduGladiators Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
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  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    A7: So this is my first twitter chat. So I'm excited to see what it ends up doing for me and the other two co-workers/friends I do this podcast with. #mschat
  • kennethdward Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    That’s the number one thing! #mschat
  • Jeremybballer Sep 6 @ 8:55 PM EDT
    Thank you @blocht574 for a great topic and chat tonight. Looking forward to next week. #mschat
  • shighley Sep 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A7: Sometimes twitter chats help plan & settle into a routine; the #BFC530 chat helped me organize my am the last few yrs I taught #mschat
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    A6: Being gentle and generous to yourself. Family first. Remembering that you can't be your best in the classroom if you aren't your best. Almost everything can wait an extra day. #MSchat
  • from_middle Sep 6 @ 8:57 PM EDT
    I've so loved this. Thank you to everyone who participated and to @blocht574 for hosting us! Definitely looking forward to doing this more, and maybe discussing some of it on the podcast. #mschat
  • donald_gately Sep 6 @ 8:58 PM EDT
    Great chat everybody!!! THANKS!!!! #mschat
  • blocht574 - Moderator Sep 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for joining #mschat tonight have an awesome Friday
  • ScholesE15 Sep 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    Thanks @blocht574 Night #MSchat
  • oritgately Sep 6 @ 8:59 PM EDT
    A7: Twitter chats help balance PD time #mschat