#ukedchat Archive

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Thursday May 31, 2018
3:00 PM EDT

  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:00 PM EDT
    It's 8pm. Time for #UKEdChat Topic: Keeps Privacy in Education Question 1 coming up...
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  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:01 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q1 What is the bare minimum of data needed by class teachers on a daily basis? Pls use the hashtag & A1...
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  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:02 PM EDT
    A1 Deceptively simple question...of course names...but then prior attainment data for mark books...and depending on school communication processes, may need access to parent contact details...and so the data grows! #ukedchat
  • teachernudge May 31 @ 3:02 PM EDT
    It’s amazing what you learn about your learners as the year goes by... one of our Access students popped in today to show us her Commonwealth Gold medal from 2002 amongst others! What golden secrets hide in your learners? #SLTchat #ukedchat #aussieED
  • Vivgrant May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
    Love this... What Makes a Great School Leader... #sltchat #ukedchat #womened #imschat https://t.co/3h03SzfHiW
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q1 again What is the bare minimum of data needed by class teachers on a daily basis? Pls use the hashtag & A1...
  • ChalkandTalks May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
    A1: I think the data usage by individual staff members is highly contextual- I’ve been in schools where huge expectations on pupil data are expected for planning and meeting lesson expectations. Differs by school, SLT and stage #UkEdChat #EdChat
  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
    Not sure if it's the bare minimum but teachers have to collect attendance data daily. Not sure what else they need to collect on a day to day basis. #ukedchat Q1
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • Vivgrant May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
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    There are 3 things that schools should do before trying to develop a School Well-being policy… https://t.co/ygxXSKPIJo #sltchat #ukedchat #womened #primaryrocks
  • LitUnPeeled May 31 @ 3:05 PM EDT
    A1 #ukedchat If you wanna go old school, then a simple surname will suffice.
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • savedyouaspot May 31 @ 3:06 PM EDT
    A1 #UKEdChat name, parents contact number, age, SEN certificates (for those who have SEN), parents email
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • HollyfieldKBH May 31 @ 3:06 PM EDT
    A1 #UKEdChat Their grade from previous year and any SEN needs
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:08 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q2 What are the main sources of data within your classroom/school? Pls use the hashtag & A2...
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:08 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat First thing in the morning...role call. So names and absentees. Plus Ss have to justify absences.
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:10 PM EDT
    A2 Probably like many others it is our "management information system" (MIS). We use "SIMS" but are going to be moving over to "Schoolpod" probably in the next year or so. #ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:10 PM EDT
    A1: #UKEdChat #UKEdChat First thing in the morning...role call. So names and absentees. Plus Ss have to justify absences.
  • ChalkandTalks May 31 @ 3:10 PM EDT
    A1: Data should be considered when planning how best to support pupils- a working knowledge of the needs pupils present is key- but a professionally developed understanding of need based on supporting pupils, day in, day out, trumps data #UkEdChat @UKEdchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:12 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q2 again What are the main sources of data within your classroom/school? Pls use the hashtag & A2...
  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:13 PM EDT
    The school pupil database, with personal and contact details, comes from school admissions forms etc. Assessment data can come from internal and external tests. Medical data usually comes from parents too. #ukedchat A2
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    A2 Isn't that a destination of data, rather than the source? #UKEdChat https://t.co/eoBRjJbhBA
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
    • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:10 PM EDT
      A2 Probably like many others it is our "management information system" (MIS). We use "SIMS" but are going to be moving over to "Schoolpod" probably in the next year or so. #ukedchat
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    A1: Names, assessment data, IEPs, attendance records are things which immediately spring to mind #UKEdChat
  • Littlemslaurad May 31 @ 3:14 PM EDT
    A2 we use RM to access registers as well as assessment data. I also have mark books(old school) and excel docs so I can auto colour code #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
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  • Vivgrant May 31 @ 3:15 PM EDT
    How can Leaders stop their values from being compromised in their role? #SLTchat #UKedchat https://t.co/iG5wjeMwFz
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:15 PM EDT
    A2 What about teacher observations of pupils? #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ThatMathsMan
  • thechrissyt May 31 @ 3:15 PM EDT
    I wish mum's phone was never invented #ukedchat #PrimaryRocks https://t.co/f3pfeak7om
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  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:15 PM EDT
    A2 I see...Source is parents, of course, but then teachers and admin staff input additional information...which then becomes a new source for others to use! So perhaps it's both! #ukedchat
  • keran77 May 31 @ 3:15 PM EDT
    A1 I'd agree with this. The register of attendance is the only data we collect. If a child is feeling ill or a parent hasn't picked them up on time then contact details for parents may be needed. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ThatMathsMan, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q3 How has your handling of data changed with the new legal requires coming into effect? Pls use the hashtag & A3...
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    A2 How are the mark books and Excel secured to ensure the data is safe? #UKEdChat
    In reply to @Littlemslaurad
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:16 PM EDT
    A2: Assessments link to students, recorded in planner etc; communication with colleagues, so potentially email/verbal; information management systems #UKEdChat
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  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:19 PM EDT
    A3 We have found it hasn't changed too much. There is a difference between general data and "sensitive" data, as far as I understand it. Teachers need to access a lot of "sensitive data". But we all need to be careful, especially with memory sticks...! #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:16 PM EDT
      #UKEdChat Q3 How has your handling of data changed with the new legal requires coming into effect? Pls use the hashtag & A3...
  • NikkiSSmith May 31 @ 3:19 PM EDT
    #a1 #ukedchat name, target, update current grade
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:20 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q3 How has your handling of data changed with the new legal requires coming into effect? Pls use the hashtag & A3...
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:20 PM EDT
    A3 Teachers in my school were concerned with paper copies of emergency contact details that are taken, often, on trips. This is another thing to be very careful of now. #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:16 PM EDT
      #UKEdChat Q3 How has your handling of data changed with the new legal requires coming into effect? Pls use the hashtag & A3...
  • Littlemslaurad May 31 @ 3:20 PM EDT
    Excel is on the secure network and mark books kept in my locked draw A2 #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:20 PM EDT
    A2 Difficult to secure markbooks, I’d think. We have advice not to leave them accessible/open on desks where students or others might see info #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat, @Littlemslaurad
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:21 PM EDT
    Which tell you more, the target or the grade? #UKEdChat https://t.co/TYOiWbAODX
    In reply to @NikkiSSmith, @fieldsofmindedu
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:22 PM EDT
    A1 targets and grades...both beg big questions about how schools assess, and how schools set targets...probably each worth a separate #ukedchat of their own!!
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  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:23 PM EDT
    A2 I think this is fair advice. Students shouldn't be looking at other people's notebooks anyway! #ukedchat
    • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:20 PM EDT
      A2 Difficult to secure markbooks, I’d think. We have advice not to leave them accessible/open on desks where students or others might see info #UKEdChat
      In reply to @ukedchat, @Littlemslaurad
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:24 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q4 Do you feel confident at handling data? What further training do you want/need? Pls use the hashtag & A4...
  • keran77 May 31 @ 3:24 PM EDT
    A2 SEN paperwork which is kept in a locked cupboard, class assessment data which is stored in a separate office and children's addresses / home phone numbers stored in locked drawers in school office. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:24 PM EDT
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    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • ICTmagic - Moderator May 31 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Amazing iPad app which replaces a whole TV crew & video editing studio. https://t.co/pQsmeyrLlg #ukedchat #edchat
  • epraiseUK May 31 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Be organised this summer and get students signing up to volunteer and take part in events on epraise. #edchat #edtech #SLTchat #BIS #ukedchat #edtechuk #sportsday #schoolevents #activities
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    A2: Yes, it’s emphasis on good practice really rather than big changes #UKEdChat
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:25 PM EDT
    Don't forget the #UKEdChat hashtag 😊
    • NikkiSSmith May 31 @ 3:24 PM EDT
      current grade - I trust the judgement of my dept. Target comes from ks2 and can have so many factors involved.
      In reply to @ukedchat, @fieldsofmindedu
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:26 PM EDT
    A4 I think generally speaking schools are aware of data issues and are probably ahead of many businesses, because of safeguarding concerns. There are new leadership burdens of appointing a "data controller" now, though, which SLTs need to address. #ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:28 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q4 again Do you feel confident at handling data? What further training do you want/need? Pls use the hashtag & A4...
  • keran77 May 31 @ 3:28 PM EDT
    A3 Need to ensure all data is kept securely, encrypted USBs. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • fla_tweets May 31 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    What have you been reading this half-term? What can you recommend? @R1chMr @Mrs_M_NQT @MrCooperTeach @Teacherglitter #ukedchat #teacher5aday
  • NikkiSSmith May 31 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:25 PM EDT
      Don't forget the #UKEdChat hashtag 😊
      • NikkiSSmith May 31 @ 3:24 PM EDT
        current grade - I trust the judgement of my dept. Target comes from ks2 and can have so many factors involved.
        In reply to @ukedchat, @fieldsofmindedu
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    Do you feel that schools at allowing pupils to 'opt in' to how data about them is being used, and prepared for pupils/parents to request all of the information being held about them? #UKEdChat https://t.co/X6Xx5BHS7K
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
    • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:26 PM EDT
      A4 I think generally speaking schools are aware of data issues and are probably ahead of many businesses, because of safeguarding concerns. There are new leadership burdens of appointing a "data controller" now, though, which SLTs need to address. #ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:29 PM EDT
    A3 Yes, I'm sure some smart companies have an opportunity to market encrypted USBs. They're very handy - used to use one for my safeguarding work. #ukedchat
    • keran77 May 31 @ 3:28 PM EDT
      A3 Need to ensure all data is kept securely, encrypted USBs. #UKEdChat
      In reply to @ukedchat
  • NikkiSSmith May 31 @ 3:30 PM EDT
    #a4 #ukedchat I can understand the implications of data but am a maths fail - it's always good if a system gives you the results to work on rather than the raw material. This gets better every year.
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q5 What information is collected about staff which you feel shouldn't be or is misused? Pls use the hashtag & A5...
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:31 PM EDT
    A4 My understanding is that every organisation must have someone in charge of data, taking a lead on it. So it might be the Business Manager / Bursar in some schools... #ukedchat
    • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:30 PM EDT
      Isn’t that for very large organisations though?
      In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • R1chMr May 31 @ 3:32 PM EDT
    Finally found out what all the Who Let the Gods Out fuss is about- brilliant!! @MaryAliceEvans. Would also recommend Bubble Boy. Also re-read Weslandia ready for the final half-term. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @fla_tweets, @MaryAliceEvans
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    A4 We took the view that we have to have parental contact details for emergencies, so it would not be appropriate to give parents the chance to opt out. That would not be safe for children to have no emergency contacts. There are some legal issues, though, yes. #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:29 PM EDT
      Do you feel that schools at allowing pupils to 'opt in' to how data about them is being used, and prepared for pupils/parents to request all of the information being held about them? #UKEdChat https://t.co/X6Xx5BHS7K
      In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
      • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:26 PM EDT
        A4 I think generally speaking schools are aware of data issues and are probably ahead of many businesses, because of safeguarding concerns. There are new leadership burdens of appointing a "data controller" now, though, which SLTs need to address. #ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:33 PM EDT
    A2: #UKEdChat That's tricky-we have an electronic register where we register absences and justifications of students. In the latter we're talking about sensitive data related to health and psychological problems. Plus any marks they obtain.
  • keran77 May 31 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    A5 I think the only information held about me and accessed by HT and one other member of staff in the office are address, phone details and emergency contact. HT has information about professional development dialogues. I'm happy with that. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:34 PM EDT
    A5 ...here is a minefield perhaps! ... I am guessing that teachers and members of SLT may feel differently about this one... #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:31 PM EDT
      #UKEdChat Q5 What information is collected about staff which you feel shouldn't be or is misused? Pls use the hashtag & A5...
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:35 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q5 again What information is collected about staff which you feel shouldn't be or is misused? Pls use the hashtag & A5...
  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    I can't think of any information that's misused. Did you have anything in mind? #ukedchat A5
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    A3: #UKEdChat Personally not much, but since I'm in the safety team at school, I know there has to be an official nominee for eSafety in the school who looks after privacy matters. Before, it was just an unwritten agreement
  • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:36 PM EDT
    Had to do GDPR training for recent role as examiner. Left it with the feeling that it is a case of using extreme common sense. But as they say, common sense ain’t so common. #ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q6 For schools in general, what are the weakest points for potential data leakage? Pls use the hashtag & A6...
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:37 PM EDT
    Nor me! Just payroll, emergency info and performance management paperwork, really #UKEdChat A5
    In reply to @ThatMathsMan, @ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:38 PM EDT
    A5 I think most schools will have things like medical info, attendance, appraisals, salary info, references... probably more info than many teachers think. Because schools have to have these things .... #ukedchat
    • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:36 PM EDT
      I can't think of any information that's misused. Did you have anything in mind? #ukedchat A5
      In reply to @ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    A4: #UKEdChat Absolutely NOT: things change so fast in the virtual world, that I feel abismally ignorant, even though I've done many courses to keep up. So more staff training is mandatory.
  • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    A6 - people not realising how easily data is stored unintentionally. Ever emailed from your phone, even if using school email? You’re storing confidential data... on your phone. #ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:39 PM EDT
    A6 We were concerned about school's use of social media - photographs etc. Though again many schools already wised up to this for safeguarding reasons. #ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:40 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q6 again For schools in general, what are the weakest points for potential data leakage? Pls use the hashtag & A6...
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  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:41 PM EDT
    Yes there's lots of information and probably more than you might think, but I agree that it's all necessary. #ukedchat A5
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    A6 what about when you don’t freeze the board by accident when looking at, for example SIMs. #ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:42 PM EDT
    A5: #UKEdChat That's a sore point with me...our paper folders and files just aren't safe. At least as far as I know. They have just about anything about our past lives, legal files, health files and family, and these are left to be checked by anybody.
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:43 PM EDT
    A5 That's a fair concern. But they should be kept in locked offices, I would hope, and usually office staff would only look on a "need to know" basis. Perhaps your staff committee to ask about procedures? #ukedchat
    • angilucy May 31 @ 3:42 PM EDT
      A5: #UKEdChat That's a sore point with me...our paper folders and files just aren't safe. At least as far as I know. They have just about anything about our past lives, legal files, health files and family, and these are left to be checked by anybody.
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q7 How is information treated once pupils leave the school? Pls use the hashtag & A7...
  • LRyall_History May 31 @ 3:44 PM EDT
    #currentlyreading On Tyranny in prep for our Politics book club next year! #ukedchat #politicsteacher
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    A6 ..that's always a bad feeling...it's even worse when you don't freeze the board ad you are emailing a teacher...or a parent...surely that would never happen to anyone on #ukedchat ... ... !
    • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:42 PM EDT
      A6 what about when you don’t freeze the board by accident when looking at, for example SIMs. #ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    A6: #UKEdChat Weakest points: well secretarial ignorance as far as I know. A lot of these office workers don't even know how to use their credentials and how to protect things with e decent password! So yeah, they need training too!
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Was actually thinking of a news report about a school SLT noting staff arrival and leaving times from school as part of performance management (because long hours=performance apparently🙄), but a genuine open question. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @MrsEEllis, @ThatMathsMan
  • _theteachr May 31 @ 3:45 PM EDT
    Q7 - must be a period after which it should be deleted? #ukedchat
  • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:46 PM EDT
    Do you get every parent to opt-in for use of children's photos on social media? Or do you not use photos of children at all? #ukedchat
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q7 again How is information treated once pupils leave the school? Pls use the hashtag & A7...
  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:47 PM EDT
    Oh it's really sad to hear that happened. #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat, @MrsEEllis
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    A7 ...But what if an adult then decides to sue a school, in their middle-age, about not recognising an SEN issue, or about abuse...Schools will want to keep data, but then how does GDPR square with that... (getting beyond my training here..._ #ukedchat
  • keran77 May 31 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    A7 Some information is transferred to the next school. I need to ask this question at next SLT meeting to have a complete answer. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:48 PM EDT
    A very interesting point. #UKEdChat https://t.co/9gmtUzIi50
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
    • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:48 PM EDT
      A7 ...But what if an adult then decides to sue a school, in their middle-age, about not recognising an SEN issue, or about abuse...Schools will want to keep data, but then how does GDPR square with that... (getting beyond my training here..._ #ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:49 PM EDT
    Yes, always a good thing to put on the "Acceptable Use" form. Every school wants to use photos of children, of course. But there will always be some families who do not want children to be recognised for understandable reasons. #ukedchat
    • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:46 PM EDT
      Do you get every parent to opt-in for use of children's photos on social media? Or do you not use photos of children at all? #ukedchat
      In reply to @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:50 PM EDT
    Would be fascinated to know the response. Could you report back? #UKEdChat
    In reply to @keran77
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:51 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q8 What information would you like to know which you don’t currently collect? Pls use the hashtag & A8...
  • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    Parents have to give consent, for use of images, names etc. Also depends on type of use: some parents might be ok with image in a newsletter but not on social media, for instance. #UKEdChat
    In reply to @BrunsdonTom, @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:52 PM EDT
    A8 To be honest, I think most schools have the problem of making sense of the huge amounts of data we already have! I think the challenge is streamlining data systems, and perhaps GDPR may help us all with this (being optimistic here!) #ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    Indeed so. Then pity the person who has the job of checking every photo sent in for the school's various social media posts, especially when they are group shots! #ukedchat But we all do our best.
    • MrsEEllis May 31 @ 3:52 PM EDT
      Parents have to give consent, for use of images, names etc. Also depends on type of use: some parents might be ok with image in a newsletter but not on social media, for instance. #UKEdChat
      In reply to @BrunsdonTom, @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • savedyouaspot May 31 @ 3:53 PM EDT
    A5 #UKEdChat I agree with @ThatMathsMan : It’s necessary
    • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:41 PM EDT
      Yes there's lots of information and probably more than you might think, but I agree that it's all necessary. #ukedchat A5
      In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    #UKEdChat Q8 again What information would you like to know which you don’t currently collect? Pls use the hashtag & A8...
  • ThatMathsMan May 31 @ 3:55 PM EDT
    Yes, that's so true. Streamlining might be the key. #ukedchat A8
    In reply to @fieldsofmindedu
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    That is the problem with GDPR. I guess that many photos of adults don't really count as "sensitive data", though probably all photos of under 18s should. #ukedchat
    • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:54 PM EDT
      And photos of visitors (e.g. a visiting author or sports player giving out medals at sports day)? Would you get them to fill in a consent form? It's a minefield.
      In reply to @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    Spot on. Or if you use a home laptop for work and downloadled a file it could be stored in your downloads. #ukedchat
    In reply to @_theteachr, @ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    A7: #UKEdChat That's my weak point...as far as I know, they have an archive about old student records...but I'm not sure, and I don't think they are willing to share this info with me (I'm not so deep in the direction😉)
  • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:56 PM EDT
    Photos on those sign in screens and name label printers at the entrance of many schools? 😳#UKEdChat https://t.co/3fFLXkHjHo
    In reply to @BrunsdonTom, @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu
    • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:54 PM EDT
      And photos of visitors (e.g. a visiting author or sports player giving out medals at sports day)? Would you get them to fill in a consent form? It's a minefield.
      In reply to @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • fieldsofmindedu May 31 @ 3:58 PM EDT
    Surely this is then a balancing act, risk assessing rights of people over data versus need to safeguard children - and the latter should always trump the former. #ukedchat
    • ukedchat - Moderator May 31 @ 3:56 PM EDT
      Photos on those sign in screens and name label printers at the entrance of many schools? 😳#UKEdChat https://t.co/3fFLXkHjHo
      In reply to @BrunsdonTom, @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu
      • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:54 PM EDT
        And photos of visitors (e.g. a visiting author or sports player giving out medals at sports day)? Would you get them to fill in a consent form? It's a minefield.
        In reply to @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu, @ukedchat
  • angilucy May 31 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    A8: #UKEdChat That's easy...what happens to our info (and ex Ss info) once we don't work at the school anymore. Is it still there, or do they archive it in a central point?
  • BrunsdonTom May 31 @ 3:59 PM EDT
    In fact, if I visit a school and sign the visitor book I often put my car registration in alongside my name and surname. That's not exactly secure personal data. #ukedchat
    In reply to @ukedchat, @MrsEEllis, @fieldsofmindedu