#connectedTL Archive
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Tuesday March 29, 2016
10:00 PM EDT
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Welcome EVERYONE! I’m Roland. a Tech Coordinator from Sacramento. If you were a GIF, what would it be? https://t.co/uCbOE1HLlQ
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Hey here for my very 1st Twitter chat! I'm Nicole from Campbell, CA. Tech Int coach & 6th grade ELA/SocSt
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Time! Hi friends! Susan Stewart in Fresno, Ca.
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YEEESSSS!!!!!! Everyone welcome Nicole... she's UHmazing!
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Q1 Frontload - Space 1: The Campfire. Home to the lecture. Teachers are the arbiters of knowledge. https://t.co/BjqJL0s0CW
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It is literally what I'm doing just about every evening at this time... ha!
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Great to “see” you, Gregg! P.S. Michael Scott is my hero.
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A1) No more than 1 minute per the Ss age. Regardless, no more than a kickoff and interjections.
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Melanie, HS math from San Diego
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thanks man. Glad I could drop in to for a bit.
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A1: So the campfire is an analogy for direct instruction. Has it’s place, but not the whole picture.
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Hello! Lisa from Whittier, CA - HS Math T & Coach
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Agree with you, Tom. But does that work? Don’t you need it sometimes?
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A1: Since Ss have ways to find/seek info we should tell just enough of the story to send them on their quest for knowledge
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Hello Velia Admin joining in
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A1) I haven't lectured in a long time. Kids have yet to complain like they used to. It's more of pushing in a direction.
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Hello I'm Julie, elementary T and tech coach in Perris CA
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One of my all time favorites... love it!!
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Yes! Just enough to be able to send them on their way again!
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Direct instruction can be efficient. Not sure it creates personal value for Ss.
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I have really, really gotten away from it. I have done it once this year by request in my sociology class.
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Hi all, jumping in a little late, Kim from Fresno, MS Sci/STEM
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A1: def has its place but should never be the whole "ghost story"
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Thank you Roland, happy to join in
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A1: The minimum amount. It's about Ss telling the story, Ts making sure they "stay on topic."
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Lecture by request. Imagine that.
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A1: Those doing the talking do the learning, so Ss should get to tell their stories, too. Start the convo, then let them learn!
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A1: I tell just enough to get them hooked & interested then let them discover their own ending
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A1: I attempt to have them discover their own ending, doesn't work every time though. Sometimes it's easier to give spoiler. :(
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A1) Every T is different. What works for some does not necessarily work for others. My style is very different.
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A1: Like a real campfire story the best ones include audience participation. Also camping trip not centered around that 1 story
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A1: Enough to build Ss interest, let them discover, and bring to light the happy ending
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A1) If they want a lecture, a screencast with narration works wonders.
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True, indeed. I personally haven’t figured out how to crack the traditional model for math. ?
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My district forces us to use the direct instruction model - of course some of us try to keep our real teaching on the DL
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sometimes the spoiler is necessary to make sure they are getting the concept
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Attempting to join chat tonight. Jamie Joyce, DIgital Learning Coach, Tustin.
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A1 Provocation and Wonder, let students discover through inquiry.
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If there was something that worked every time, there’d be no reason to meet each week and chat. Lol!
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Hey ! Karly, TOSA from Concord, CA. Jumping in a bit late. Kiddo just fell asleep! If I were a GIF https://t.co/7hsSVpDWy9
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agreed, but laugh at myself when I answer my own questions. Keep thinking: "Bueller? Bueller?.."
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Who's doing the narrating tho...the T? S? Sal Khan? https://t.co/gU0K6c6gkE
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A1) If they want a lecture, a screencast with narration works wonders.
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Yes! You are sooooo correct.
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Not completely sure how I'd answer Q1 yet, but this is about where I'm at as well https://t.co/cLZ7kHwJeh
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A1: Enough to build Ss interest, let them discover, and bring to light the happy ending
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I find as I look at my own practice, I often do what’s good for me, not always what’s best for students.
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I said that the other day in class and they all just stared at me 😔
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Me or them. Sometimes someone we don't know. I haven't used Khan yet for my social studies kids.
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Just close your door, Julie. Funny though. I found myself still using it even when I didn’t have to.
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A2: That's a BM question, if culture of classroom is such that we value each other, and structures are in place then no problem
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😳 sometimes my age shows, and my students say "I love the 80's!"
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Hey, ! It's Spring Break, so this "time" thing is relative right now... in other words, sorry I'm late. ;) Laurie, 4th Grade.
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Of course you would be, Karly. Welcome!
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Wishing chat wasn't so early! 7pm is hard. I'll try for next week!
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A2: Side convos aren't bad, but use platform to manage (TodaysMeet). Make convo engaging/relevant enough to keep them reeled in
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A2: I'm lovin whole class shared Google Doc w/ column to post & column to comment. 100% voices "heard" Convos can be digital!
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I have as well to some degree never the whole dog and pony show I have to put on for admin
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A2: Organized engagement structures/strategies that hold Ss accountable to small group and whole group https://t.co/3XloceAp5g
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A2) Great question. I like using feedback in GClassroom. I have been shouting out questions as I go along. No easy answer.
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And you’d never get any sleep. Lol
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Mic drop! https://t.co/BrQQchUsPo
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A1: Those doing the talking do the learning, so Ss should get to tell their stories, too. Start the convo, then let them learn!
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A2 Develop norms and expectations for conversation. Show students how you "table" something & return to it later.
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It's super easy with . My students and I love using it.
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because great minds are all like connected + TL
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A1: Just enough to want to know the rest of the story! Although, sharing the end can make you want to go back to the start!
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A2: Good question. Have you ever tried to keep a room of teachers focused on one conversation!? Thanks for your ideas.
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A2: The 3-Act Math tasks have pulled some of my students out of the shadows and into the discussion.
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Thank you sometimes the word vomit I am so often guilty of comes out nicely (too gross O: ...see what I mean)
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A2- starting in small group then to large groups helps my Ss stay on topics. Class norms for group talk important
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A2: I keep trying the Ask a ? Feature in GClassroom, taking awhile to get Ss to have good convos, but whole class participates
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Practice? Even adults having convo w/30 others &no side convo=hard! Better be SUPER engaging convo https://t.co/4PvOcrnymA
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LOL, well maybe if we're just for a minute...or something (:
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tell me more about them I've never heard of them
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I agree! Small group accountability and large group accountability.
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Behavior management (Sorry, I realized it might be misconstrued)
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You’re right on time, Laurie.
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So excited to join you in your FIRST Twitter chat! You are doing a fabulous job!
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I thought you wanted me to Blackberry Message you.
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Right! Just look at us in this tweetchat!
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Am I too late for the learning spaces chat for ?? Got busy helping out a T who kept wanting to learn more. :-)
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A2: Side convo is less of a challenge for me than empowering those who would rather stay quiet
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LOL, Blackberry Message! :D
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A2: Perhaps a tool like TodaysMeet to allow the convo to continue, but not lose a good Q along the way?
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A2: I’d never thought about how a class discussion goes against the natural tendency to have 3 or 4 people in a convo.
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Tell us more! Interest = peaked.
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but sometimes birdwalks add to the learning it's hard to gauge without hindering
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A2: While groups are chatting in 3s and 4s, tag one member of each group for a share-out.
"Calling on you, calling on you..."
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LOL, yes. Oh how I miss, "You've got mail."
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Q3 Frontload - Space 3: The Cave. For reflective learning. Solitary, self-directed meaning making. https://t.co/7FL2SUJk3s
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welcome and stoked to be here
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Ouch. BBM still lives! You can download it for iOS!
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A2: also involves teaching Ss how to have a group conversation, many may have never experienced that type of format
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Birdwalks lead to a hopefully connected story that is memorable and cheerful.
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Oh if that's the excuse...I guess it's cool. Never late, always arrive right on your time
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you rock! Will check it out when I get home childs soccer practice goes mobile 😱
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A2: now I need to apply same principals I do in a classroom in a PD session to avoid side convo (that's not helpful)
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I haven't heard of that one, I will check it out. My Ss like GClassroom but tend to get off track quickly
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Exactly! Am I the only one seeing that whole-class discussions go against a natural tendency?
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Those are awesome. love me some 3-Act Math.
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If you can insert a meme in a chat while keeping up then you are WAY ahead of the curve 😉
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A3: Meaningful tasks lead to meaningful reflection. Also give opportunities to reflect/demo learning in a variety of ways
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So true! Have to teach Ss how to have a convo and def in lg groups!
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A3: I'll hang up and listen for my answer.
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Gotcha. Susan’s on fire tonight! Your’e, like, a good teacher and stuff.
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A1: I've seen effective lecture classrooms where the students are like my 3-year-old @ storytime.
"Daddy, next we should..."
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Oh My Mr. Vaudrey misses the 90's (: That's awesome. Now you can even get a Kia
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my class on Gclassroom goes sideways quickly too - other sites less it's all about their age and perception
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A3: Something that's going to flush out multiple ways of thinking. Also, relevence, meaning, & authenticity to Ss!
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Sorry brother, the wonderful folks at will provide for you soon...I'm so far behind I'm answer the 1st Q again (:
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A3: Give choice in how to reflect
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A3: we have to teach Ss how to be reflective, give opportunities for reflection, find meaningful activities to reflect on
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A3 Discuss something relevant to them or show them how it's relevant. Passion will ignite the conversation.
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Yes! No one wants to reflect on the awesome worksheet they did! Give them tasks relevant to themselves! https://t.co/x7ENVjN7A1
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A3: Meaningful tasks lead to meaningful reflection. Also give opportunities to reflect/demo learning in a variety of ways
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Truth! Been an S in that rm, hanging on Ts evry word! No 1 right way to teach, just do what you do well https://t.co/gvQzIP6HZ8
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A1: I've seen effective lecture classrooms where the students are like my 3-year-old @ storytime.
"Daddy, next we should..."
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Not to brag but I'm also drinking a glass of wine & half-watching Jessica Jones on Netflix.
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Teachers can sometimes be the worst students.
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I've seen that as well. But definitely a skill not everyone has.
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Shhh Roland, she doesn't want everyone to know (:
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Yep. But starting to develop [any skill] and learning from failure is the mark of a lifelong learner.
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A3- "ensure they have something to reflect on" wow! I think the Q is the answer
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A3: Relevance! Do you have any instrinsic desire to reflect if there is no relevance to your own life or the world at large?
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Boom! I love that response
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I may want to reflect on the worksheet, but it may not be a school appropriate reflection 😉
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i teach the idea of public (business/professional) vs private voice. We must teach Ss how to converse
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A2: create a class or other mind map that the class as a whole contributes too!
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So true, that's why little ones can make ipad work at age 3, they don't know they don't know (:
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A1: Lecture should be like a movie trailer or like the opening scene of every Breaking Bad episode. Pique curiosity & interest
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it's such an important skill for them that I think so many times gets overlooked
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So loving that, why I have hope for tomorrow's generations
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Good reminder, Kathleen! Yes, had this convo w/Ss too. I speak 1 way at work, 1 way at home... it's all good
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I heard Roger Staubach say that champions have short memories, meaning that they move on from miscues.
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So glad to hear your voice Kathy (:
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The judges have confirmed that’s a reasonable excuse.
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Right! When the girls were 3 they had my ipad and found games...I couldn't believe it
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Agreed! Relevance will cause them to reflect because it matters to them.
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A2 I've used Gsheets for this each S has a write a response in column A with their correlating # others respond in B+
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Agree! Working w/Ts this yr on speaking skills in math class. Something I had to improve on as T
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Reflection can be content focused but self directed using a bank of questions they can choose
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A little student choice never hurts.
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Awesome! Send me tips! Partnering w/ELA TOSA tons for PD/coaching
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Q4 Frontload - Space 4: Life. Where the meaningful application of things learned takes place. https://t.co/oW0jom90Ke
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And THIS is why I dig my PLN. Surrounded by professionals always looking to get better.
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I'll share a PD I did at beginning of year if interested
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The art of discussion & respectful debate is lacking especially in science or math.
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A2:think time 2process & express indiv..via Google Form(or peardeck,etc..)then review anonymously to eliminate fear &keep focus
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A4: I feel that this is where school misses the mark. We often educate in a vacuum.
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in Sci I've been working a lot on Constructive Criticism, how to give it & how to take it in
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I bet it involves the art of the questioning.
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Would love to see any sentence stems, teaching strategies any of you are using
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Pushing yourself and your craft is what matters. Seems you’re already there, Jamie.
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A3b: 7th grade S told me he thought a task was lame (writing about fave sport) and that he'd rather make a sport tutorial
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A4) I always weave in other curricula when I can. Always teaching social and digital awareness too. Every day, almost.
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can always ask your Ss to solve probs another way and explain their thinking in math
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Hmmm. How to take it. There is a skill to learn.
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and it's one of the biggest parts of Sci!!
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Don’t thank us. Apparently you know some people in high places.
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A4: Be literal & direct about relevance 2 their lives, help connect dots, don't rely on assumption. "This is just like __"
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I do believe that is a PD most of us are missing, how to ask good Qs for Ss to think
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YES!! I need more training in this, for sure!
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Our best real-life Q came from our English Dept./Relay for Life Chair: challenged students 2 find a way 2 meet $5000 fund goal.
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OMG how did you get dancing from Cue Karokee (:
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This is what good Ts do, but is it enough. It needs to be real application for Ss to test their understandings.
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A4 Rocky from Templeton. I convinced Ss the work I have them do has value, though I don't grade most of it, because it does.
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We probably all do, CC has some great Q strategies
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It's not easy and not possible with every single lesson.
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oh yeah! But it's such an important life skill
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A4- kids hate word problems yet life gives us math in word problems. Show them those problems
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Perhaps, but diving deeper, for me, means asking deeper Qs
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A4: Instead of projects, have our Ss create meaningful PRODUCTS from which others can learn and grow. https://t.co/Sr3zGqrF48
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A4: Tried to use this as a hook for Ss-led problem solving a couple times. No takers so far --> https://t.co/7sXwE2lhXb.
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A4: As a math T I sigh when I get the question "When are we going to use this?" Maybe they won't, but I preach perseverance.
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Well played gif sir, well played
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FYI chocolate milk is now on my screen (: Thanks Roland
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And… have the product be something that is demonstrated/used publicly in the community.
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thanks for your generous share!
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fixity squirt from your nose? Just laughing at the mental image
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Just doing my job, Jeremiah.
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A3: Give TIME &space for Ss to respond to meaningful ?s, espec. introverts,IMO the best reason for blended/online discussions.
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Anything I have is for others, we get better together
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Yes!!! Service learning! https://t.co/hEBFMLPAGn
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And… have the product be something that is demonstrated/used publicly in the community.
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Comp doesn't seem to mind it either
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We are making textbooks for kids to use next year. Hard, but they are really engaged!
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Just out of curiosity, how do you answer? I haven't found a mutually satisfying response yet.
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I always brag about the generous nature of my PLN. Love that our ed world has become less stingy in the last 20yrs.
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Sorry Lindsey, I couldn't resist (:
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indeed!! That's why I <3 my !
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Stumbled upon this chat late here in the Midwest. Was a bit of a creeper and reader. Thanks for the ideas!
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Yes, I hope it continues to grow, we're so much better together, than islands of excellence
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Students are making them?
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Just caught up to the feed with this again...awesome
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I am honest and say they might not use at all, but it might be the "ticket" to get into the future show they want.
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Yes. We are Iron Cheffing our way slowly through WWII right now.
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A4: connecting the project to real world: Ss studied brain, guest speaker about concussions, Ss designed better helmet
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Awesome. Honesty buys cred w/my students. I've taken that same approach. Pragmatic w/an eye to the future.
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A4: as a math T, pointing out how the 8 Math Practices are life skills to address the ? "When am I ever going to use this?"
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Lurk any time, Jeremy. Tuesdays, 7PM PST.
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Is Tom a master chef too (:
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They are trying to dial things in and it is getting rather cool.
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But we need to know Sadness to understand Joy, right?
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YES! Perfect connection for us math Ts. Thanks for the reminder.
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Good catch. I love when they dream big dreams.
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Authentic audience! THAT’S MY NEW A4! Thanks, Tom!
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There it is! Good answer, Ed!
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Not yet. Had some Ss take over and show the class some cool Drawing tricks.
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I’m going to say yes. I think.
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Any Peeps attending ? Hope to see some there. :)
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Thanks for a great chat tonight. Got some fabulous ideas and resources 👍 Have a wonderful night everyone 😊
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I think it's one way that people learn but not the only way
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Can’t thank you Tweeps enough. I walk away each week feeling mentally worked out.
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So I've heard! Can't wait to meet at in June!
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Yay! Survived...er...participated in my first Twitter chat. Thanks everyone!
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Awesome job Nicole! Welcome to the tribe!
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You know they named the Ed Camps after him, just saying. (:
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Yayyyy! It gets a little overwhelming but fun and inspiring. :)
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Fastest 60 minutes in teaching. I love my Tuesday Night PD.
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Then I'm all X--files, "The truth is out there.."
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That’s no small task. Hope to see you back next week!
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They are fun! Set alerts in your calendar. Super helpful! have helped me tremendously!
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Awesome! I'll obviously be tweeting from there, hope to connect.
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