#TEDEdChat Archive
Sparked by the enthusiasm of teachers in the TED-Ed community, TED-Ed hosts #TEDEdChat on Twitter every Tuesday from 6-7pm ET.
Tuesday January 12, 2016
6:00 PM EST
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Who bears most responsibility for this need?
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A1:a loaded question! Innovation, taking risks, teachers getting out of our comfort zone. teaching with
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What happens if they are already up and they are a little bit harder to run through than anticipated?
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I like the idea of "Ts getting out of comfort zones." What does this look like in the classroom?
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"Start with Why" I think is the title, white cover, red letters, I have that book, time to read it
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TY 4 the Q. I like to push myself to try new strategies even if it's just to find out they don't work
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Please be sure to use the hashtag when commenting and chiming in on tonights chat!
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Ts can do the extraordinary! They should start by changing the way they teach +adding their own character to the lesson
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Oh they're up, doesn't mean we don't back up, find another way. Find ur tribe, they'll keep u sane https://t.co/EKpkreCtDz
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What happens if they are already up and they are a little bit harder to run through than anticipated?
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I agree with you. As long as it benefits the Ss, I am down to try anything knew
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A1: difficult! Important for whole school to be on board.
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I hear you, collective, community and consciousness is always the key to overcoming obstacles...
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What do you mean by "adding their own character"? TY!
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I agree, & it policy doesnt want to change, enough examples of positive change on the ground will force their hand
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Technology (apps, email, courses) can interrupt "summer forgetting." Organization + effort just as important as money.
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That is an interesting point, I think i follow, can you elaborate...
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A1. First we need to define what do we expect from education. Our expectations determines what are the barriers
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So important!! https://t.co/dvqUkffLLH
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A1. First we need to define what do we expect from education. Our expectations determines what are the barriers
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create more creative and fun lessons by using their uniqueness as individuals,because all of us are unique!
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I agree policy moves slowly but momentum can grow quickly when enough people move in the same direction.
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Completely agree, we have a candid discussion regarding the purpose of education
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If we do not, we will continue to spin on a mouse wheel
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Always. Policy, ironically enough, is usually last to change, context almost always happens first
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RT: Q1 How do we break down barriers in our traditional model of schooling?
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A1 You break down traditional barriers by giving the explosives of courage, freedom & trust to teachers, admins & parents.
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And once that happens, guess who grows into this model...the Students
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. Candor is a superb barrier-remover!
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Surprisingly, so many people are afraid of this..Fear of what? Who knows..
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. Big part of education should be teaching kids to recognize and remove barriers.
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A1: flipped learning where students learn via videos, excerpts, practice at their own pace
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Q2 coming up in a moment!
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Q2 coming up in a moment!
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I hear you. But be careful of the sweeping msgs, in 2016 U'd be surprised how many have cells!
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. Conformity can be a kind of armor. BS, too. Some people can't operate w/out such support.
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Yes, sounds like an anti-traditional education, education..If that makes sense
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Success by + students the tools. Passion, persistence,Social intelligence, self esteem& intentional behavior.
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. Barriers are barriers to understanding. Lesson for kindergarten. All the rest is commentary.
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We must be brave enough to say and to accept what are the barriers in education.
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we are exploring the expectations people have of education.
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use tech as a tool rather than a lens. Engage the community.
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A2: Use tech to strengthen authentic engagement in the classroom and kids will learn
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A2: In so many ways! Connect them to the world around them, open them up to vast opps for learning about diff. cultures.
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take advantage of the possibilities that PCs,interactive boards,internet r offering us to make the lesson more appealing
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reminds me of a quad blogging session I observed in a classroom. Powerful.
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policy makers mostly listen praises rather than criticisms. So they cannot see the barriers
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A2: put Ss in driver's seat where they can use tech for research; compose online presentations; collaborate w/ ppl acrs the wrld
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A2) In 2016, we must admit that technology is going to be the vehicle to take us higher; thus we must find best ways to use it
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A2 Good use of tech can allow for differentiation and give Ss access to a world beyond their classroom.
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How might we do that, Rinard?
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A2 decentralise the learning space and increase the learning springboards
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This is so important, tech as the vehicle, not the ultimate end point
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A2: problem solving opportunities are endless.
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Flip learning even farther to ask students what they want to learn. If you want to help someone listen.
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Yes Sir. You may have an awesome vehicle, but you need to know how to drive it. https://t.co/7xZVS4NKTO
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A2) In 2016, we must admit that technology is going to be the vehicle to take us higher; thus we must find best ways to use it
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Oh definitely not.In fact, emphasis on it sometimes takes away from the purpose of education
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Ah, love the metaphor! Understand completely what you mean
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I am signing up for more this year. Such a powerful tool!
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Agreed applying learning is such an important part of the process.
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yes! Builds their investment, motivation and engagement
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Put kids in positions to collaborate and communicate. For example, blogging/class Twitter groups are fun ideas
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Something to do with 4 and something to do with blogging, can you explain more
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A2 Allow students more access to info rather than having Ts be the keepers of knowledge.
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A2. Teachers should stimulate a wish of learning, then how to use tools to reach that wish. Technology is one those tools
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And engagement is the key to relevance..love the flipped model
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Edmodo is a great platform
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Yes! I am yet to try it! :/
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There is the key - helping students FIND THEIR WHY..without this education is pointless
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A2: Bring resources and learning experiences to areas which are lacking them--urban schools in particular
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let tech be one tool in changing the narrative of educations role in real world events and local community
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A2: Ts need to find a few good tech tools and focus on them rather than looking for the next best thing https://t.co/U7jkNxCrQx
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teach them the SKILLS. As we are preparing children for jobs that don't exist using technology that hasn't been invented
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A2. If we cannot criticise enough the technology in education as we praise it, it may become a barrier itself.
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Right, in that case, education because situation specific with a compass on society
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A1&2 I blogged today about building bridges from Montessori to mainstream. It addresses both questions. https://t.co/uUkcMZ5Rhi
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it doesn't have to be all the same grade. I saw a 2nd grade class engage with 3rd & 4th grade classes.
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make use of and possibly encourage the use of communication platforms like Twitter
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If I can fit that into my plate this semester, I might throw that out there in a staff mtg
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A2: Using technology to assist in the overwhelming process of diagnostic-driven practice--accessible data is key!
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A2: Technology w/o a skillful teacher and solid curricula is nothing
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A2 use tech to create new networks of co-learners/creators
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Q3 How can we adjust standardized testing so the results we receive directly impact student learning? https://t.co/YIAWM3MboC
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I'm on the same page as you, Rebecca!
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This is why i love these twitter chats! Always some food for thought
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I saw Spanish Immersion connected with traditional classes. All having a common ground thx to tech.
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What do you think about this idea?
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A3) Our testing RESULTS must arrive in time to actually impact the students who created them
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A3: It's not just testing that needs adjusting, it's how data gathered from the testing is applied & the weight that it is given
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A3 see data as descriptive of impacts and not prescriptive of outcomes
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A2 Student creativity-integrating s-created video, audio, animations, digital art, etc.
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Standardized testing *might* be more effective if teachers were able to see itemized data for each student quickly
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A2 Ss creating and producing w tech more.Ss learn critical thinking, collaboration and communication through digital creations.
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A3) If results arrive too late (the next year, etc) they are almost mute
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A3: If we adjust standardised testing, does that mean it is still standardised?
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YES, the data is essentially useless in actual practice in the current system!
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I agree, important also to let Ss explore with the . We don't have to be the "knower of all" with this gen
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A3 Reinvent the system so we are tracking mastery by ind. points of arrival. Remove the problem of same- same day/test/grade
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Of course, there are ways to adjust it (time frames, etc) so that the results are more beneficial to the Ss
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A1 need 2 teach habits that lead to 21st cent skills as a class. El ts should teach critical thinking class daily just like math
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I know the feeling. We all probably do.
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I can, but by then, the Ss who produced it are gone. It can help systematically, but what about the particular Ss?
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I think for this to happen we would need to test more frequently so that the adjustments benefit that cohort
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*It can..pardon the typo https://t.co/4uQcNNM17x
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I can, but by then, the Ss who produced it are gone. It can help systematically, but what about the particular Ss?
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Oooh, that is a slippery slope..but I somewhat agree...
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RT : Q3 How can we adjust standardized testing so the results we receive directly impact student learning?
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A3 testing is only valuable if it informs next learning steps and teachers can act quickly Ss are not robots to be programed
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Exactly, unless they use it for some school wide improvement plan, but for the students, it's pointless
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If the results, again, were given to us quickly, and user friendly to analyze, so students can track their own data and growth
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Exactly! Having tech isn't the same thing as using it effectively.
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Should standardized testing occur more frequently, or would it be more effective to use embedded assess. more frequently?
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exactly. Content mastery is less important compared 2using what is acquired 2produce individual views of history
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Me too...But honestly, how are EQAO score by 6th graders helping those Ss now in 7th grade?
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Yes, and the students should always be the focus!
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Right! But most teachers avoid or neglect this opportunity for knowledge production
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Keep the comments coming. This chat is on fire!
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When the conversation leaves the confines of the classroom, it becomes even more powerful.
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Yep. Or when it ties the classroom with the community...real connection!
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A3: Just to start discussion... pros/cons of 'adjusting' by entirely dropping standardized testing and using other data types?
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A3 the test doesn't give data that reflects what is important in learning. Change what is tested then data will matter
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A3) "Billions and billions of dollars for data that ID too late to use." All that testing with no improvement...
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Right. That is always a productive way of dealing with assessment. But this years' Ss get left out the mix
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A4) Anecdotal analysis is always downplayed but it has amazing evaluative potential
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If learning is student centered/self-driven, is it possible to standardize it? I struggle with this.
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Everyday https://t.co/IPjEUEus9t
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If learning is student centered/self-driven, is it possible to standardize it? I struggle with this.
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a3 put the test design in the hands of the professional... The teacher!
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With a little supplement help from the subjects being tested...the student!
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A3 Some states are there..let students remediate after results Afterall, there's value in our Ss. learning from their mistakes.
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A4: Observation, anecdotal notes, embedded assessment, performance tasks... so many! All give more info than stand. tests!
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Education is the only business where failure is not viewed as PRACTICE
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I would say it is absolutely not possible! https://t.co/x1NJqQ5NUQ
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If learning is student centered/self-driven, is it possible to standardize it? I struggle with this.
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in the most highly rated Ed countries they answered that ? with a no. Put the evals n Ts hands.
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A4: A quality growth rubric is a good way to gauge progress.
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A4 Talking to them. No data to measure, but lots of insight.
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A4. One of the ways that teachers can get “real data” about students is understanding their
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A4: Our school uses results from MAP testing to differentiate instruction for each student by readiness.
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So true! Teachers are professionals. They are able to gather a lot of information with informal interactions.
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YES, teachers are professionals and should be treated as professionals!!
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I went to a PD last wk that talked about having Ss measure how much effort they are putting into things
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A4: The best way to get S data, is to just talk to them and form those relationships.
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You can observe a lot by just watching. - Yogi Berra
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I did this with my 1st graders. It was an incredible experience!
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A4 - By seeing how Ss interact with each other during group activities, also by speaking with them and knowing their interests.
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I teach that too. The important part is clearly defining what is meant by effort. Rubrics work well.
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Still working out what the survey/reflection would look like! What did yours look like?
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Agreed. Pretty ironic that we ignore the voice we are meant to serve
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At 1st I would allow anonymous responses from Ss, now I focus on the relationship so I can just ask the S outright about it
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A4: last year we videoed our lessons as part of our PD. Very interesting viewing. Pick up things you don't realise at the time!
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Sometimes I sit back and just watch my Ss learn, it is amazing to see how they process when a T is intervening
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A4 Agreed! Communication is vital! It's important to not rely too heavily on data from standardized tests https://t.co/chxvlXLbkg
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A4 Talking to them. No data to measure, but lots of insight.
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Yes. Knowing which Ss said what is important. Education is contextual, Ts are not robots and should try to be
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Did that for National Boards. That beat any evaluation I ever had!
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For HS Spanish, she had Ss look at a pic for 30 secs & list what they saw, max of 20pts & had Ss track
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A4 ...a thoughtfully designed portfolio system that includes data from the student, parent, and teacher
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Right. I know how it helps some Ts. It gives them a parameter of student limits - sad
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A4 have Ss assess each other using rubrics; or evaluate S projects
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Haven't tried that. Still working on the best way to track effort
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Smiley-face rubrics for surveys & weekly verbal/written reflections of evidence for which 'face' we chose!
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Amazing chat tonight fam. In honor of Geoffrey Canada, check out my latest post, "Hard Knocks Education" https://t.co/zeGteEE96U
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Sounds awesome! Easy and effective. Love it!
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Including different sources and perspectives is key!!
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