#ATchat Archive
#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.
Wednesday October 4, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to the October 4th edition of
#ATchat
. Please let us know who you are and where you are from.
participatechat
Oct 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
#ATchat
by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/LbdD5CgZib
UDL_Center
Oct 4 @ 8:00 PM EDT
#UDLchat
starts in one hour w/
@digitallearnudl
! Let's help some teacher educators w/ common ?s about
#UDL
.
#ATchat
https://t.co/UtFjXyZopi
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hey Now
#ATchat
AT Specialist from NJ; co-mod w/
@KarenJan
Very excited for our questions tonight
MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:01 PM EDT
I'm Ashley, an elementary teacher that currently lives in Texas.
#edt5334
#atchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
John O'Sullivan Chelmsford High School Librarian and Assistive Technology Specialist/Author
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Tonight will be a bit different. We are going to throw up a few provocative statements to get the convo flowing.
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
HI Ashley - first one here tonight! Welcome! Did you check out the questions on the Smore?
#ATchat
In reply to @MrsAndersonRm14
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
HI Ashley - so glad you are here tonight
#ATchat
In reply to @MrsAndersonRm14
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Welcome John - great to "see" you!
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide
MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Maegan SLP/AT from CT
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Check out our
#ATchat
@flipgrid
& tell us what excites you about our profession: Flipgrid link:
https://t.co/S4e0EGpomB
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hey John! Glad you are here. Thx for doing a video on the flipgrid
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide
KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Kerri-SLP in RI
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Maegan! Glad you are here
#ATchat
In reply to @MaegeK
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include
#atchat
hashtag
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Always great to be here in my favorite chat
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi Kerri! Thx for joining us tonight
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp
MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
I am not sure what Smore is..? I am new to Twitter chats.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
taowens2016
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
#Atchat
I am Tracy Owens SPED high school teacher from Georgia I also serve on our AT team
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
@KerriHslp
Welcome to
#ATchat
tonight. first question is coming up in a minute.
In reply to @MaegeK, @KerriHslp
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Leslie - AT Specialist from LI, NY
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Check out the link:
https://t.co/VTycup8fu8
Smore is an online flyer maker
#ATchat
In reply to @MrsAndersonRm14, @KarenJan
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1: We’ve heard it said by several people recently, every student on an IEP should undergo an AT Evaluation. Agree or Disagree? Why?
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AssignmentHelpN
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
The SAMR Model: Effective Technology Integration in Classrooms
https://t.co/N8NF3byMeG
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#BigBeacon
myassignment
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/Z8TN4t4GK0
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#BigBeacon
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
The
@Flipgrid
video was an awesome idea we should do that again.
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
So glad you are here! Looking forward to your thoughts tonight
#ATchat
In reply to @taowens2016
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hey Leslie! So good to see you tonight
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:06 PM EDT
I agree! I just purchased my full license so this will come back in future chats
#BusinessExpense
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide, @Flipgrid
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
If you are new to FlipGrid, check out the one
@mmatp
created and add your voice!
https://t.co/WZ96kc2s39
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:07 PM EDT
A2: Disagree! Every student we work with must have AT considered. Not all consideration discussions need to lead to an eval
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KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 AT needs to be considered, but eval only if the team needs help to find solutions that work.
#ATchat
MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: Disagree. Not everyone needs an eval (ex. an artic only student), but it should be considered more formally to increase use.
#ATchat
MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: I am not familiar with AT evals but if they can be used to better assist students in learning, that is great!
#edt5334
#atchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1: I believe in proactive assistive technology. Getting the technology in the classroom is what matters. Reports have a place too.
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 - disagree. Consultations/coaching can be more effective and include the team to build capacity.
#ATchat
massignmenthelp
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
The Complete Guide to UK Car Driving Theory Test
https://t.co/skWVo4OBdl
#atchat
#AVIDchat
#BigBeacon
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 Disagree, if you have a team who can access the student. If not, hire someone to do an AT eval.
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: I lean towards disagreeing. 4 some Ss the tech can actually act as a hindrance/distraction, even w/ right supports in place.
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
kclarke5240
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Karen Clarke from MA- OT and AT
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
We should make
@Flipgrid
to answer Twitter questions in future chats.
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid, @Flipgrid
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: This is such an important discussion. The difference between consult vs eval. Consider AT>determine next steps
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Welcome, Karen.
#atchat
In reply to @kclarke5240
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Hi all- Vicki in Memphis running late but liking these provocative questions!
#Atchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Patty ATP from TX signing in.
#ATchat
adaptechcf
Oct 4 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Hi
#atchat
joining the conversation late tonight! Cheryl from MA, AT Consultant
taowens2016
Oct 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 disagree , evaluation no consideration yes
#Atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1: I think it should always be a consideration and an available option, but evals are not always needed.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A1 - Most times a consultation is what the team needs. AT Evals should be requested infrequently.
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Yes it will return!
@KarenJan
& I have some creative chat ideas coming in the near future. Stay tuned!
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:10 PM EDT
We should make
@Flipgrid
to answer Twitter questions in future chats.
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @Flipgrid, @Flipgrid
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Joining a little late! Hi everyone! Hillary from Maine!
#atchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
we start with request for consult/eval. parent consent has bn obtained. We end it w consult if no special device or software needed.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
It's an excellent option in a universally designed classroom!
#ATchat
adaptechcf
Oct 4 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Looking forward to checking this tool out!
In reply to @KarenJan, @mmatp
adaptechcf
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1: agree with what most are saying; looking at the consultation model to address AT needs, but at times an eval may be needed
#atchat
kclarke5240
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 disagree- would like to see it discussed more in team meetings, but we don't always get the best buy-in from team from Evans
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1: consideration at every IEP is required & should be. Team may need to ask for a consult in order to consider appropriately.
#Atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Hey Hillary. Glad you could make it tonight
#ATchat
In reply to @hillavee
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Nicely put Vicki
#atchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
The best chat just got better!
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:15 PM EDT
we have built in tools for all students in the district. we call them Universal tools. most times they are all that is needed.
#ATchat
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:16 PM EDT
What types of universal tools are provided?
#ATchat
In reply to @PattyATP
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Yes-that is key! Discussion IS Consideration. Let's talk about Ss needs as a team. The team may have expertise to provide support
#ATchat
kclarke5240
Oct 4 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1 disagree- would like to see it discussed more in team meetings, but we don't always get the best buy-in from team from Evans
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Q2: Is it time to change federal law regarding AT in IDEA? Why or why not? What would that look like?
#ATchat
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1 disagree. Always should be considered and determine next steps- whether it be consult, eval- what does the student need?
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Karen Can you clarify what sorts of changes you are asking about?
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:18 PM EDT
I am I hearing
#UDL
? When tools are available to all its pretty cool.
#atchat
In reply to @PattyATP
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Thinking about the words "Assistive Technology" Is it time to change that term?
#ATchat
In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2 AT eval is to identify strategies/tools-not dx. Timeline should be different
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Technology tools have become more universally available. should the law reflect that? demystify the term AT?
#ATchat
In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
taowens2016
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 it states ANY device that enhances a students ability so I'm not sure what a change would look like?
#Atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 -would like to see AT Evaluation removed from the law. We eval areas of suspected disability. AT skills do not fit that criteria.
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2: They change how they interpret the law from time to time. We should change how people see special education. Laws don't do that.
#atchat
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
broaden the term AT, or eliminate or define or?? Still unsure of why you ask.
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @KarenJan
kclarke5240
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 wow- I feel like that's a big question. How to be sure it gets the results it hopes for? Interpretation is variable.
#ATchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A1 in lg district w 78,000+ Ss, a full team discussion is not always possible b4 ARD. Even though that wd b my preference.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Yes, we need to see the results of other evals to help team make appropriate AT decisions.
#ATchat
KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A2 AT eval is to identify strategies/tools-not dx. Timeline should be different
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Yes! Very difficult to do trials well within the current timeline. (Part of why I prefer consults.)
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
#ATchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
We have Co-Writer Universal and Snap&Read U. other tools r incl in spec ed programs as standard tools.
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Consults allow the whole team (not just the AT person!) a chance to determine the right match b/w S needs & tool features
#ATchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @KerriHslp
KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:23 PM EDT
And also see goals/objectives so we know what AT is supporting
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
kclarke5240
Oct 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Good point about AT timeline. How can AT be considered on an initial consent , when eligibility hasn't even been determined?
#ATchat
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Sometimes a training, class lesson, or consult is all that’s needed. Sometimes the eval has value when teams are stuck.
#ATChat
In reply to @KarenJan
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:24 PM EDT
even tho we don't all meet..I do collect info from intervws w all stakehldrs. when stating the barriers, I use their words.
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp, @VickiBostonSLP, @KerriHslp
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A2 a few options - change the name, Keep consideration but remove AT Evaluations and replace with consultations.
#atchat
In reply to @bcdtech, @mmatp
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Yes, yes, yes!
#AtChat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2: They change how they interpret the law from time to time. We should change how people see special education. Laws don't do that.
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Eval does have value (that is for sure) especially when the team does not posses the expertise to determine tools.
#ATchat
In reply to @hillavee, @KarenJan
HarleyMamaK
Oct 4 @ 8:25 PM EDT
No, it's truly Technology that assists the person
#Atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @bcdtech, @KarenJan
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
And I hate trying to answer if a student is "eligible" for AT based on evaluation. I didn't determine presence/absence of disorder.
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Also empowers staff and students to use the tools when being showing in context and with intent
#ATChat
In reply to @mmatp, @VickiBostonSLP, @KerriHslp
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:26 PM EDT
we go to eval when spec software or dedicated device is needed.
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Remember to use
#atchat
hashtag. We want to hear your thoughts!
HarleyMamaK
Oct 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I'm in Loudoun County, VA. We always try to do consultations and provide strategies and ideas before an evaluation
#Atchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @bcdtech, @mmatp
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I believe in changing hearts over laws.
#atchat
In reply to @hillavee
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Thats the ideal to me. Engage the team, collaborative problem-solving. Develop an implementation plan.
#ATchat
In reply to @HarleyMamaK, @bcdtech, @mmatp
HarleyMamaK
Oct 4 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I'm in Loudoun County, VA. We always try to do consultations and provide strategies and ideas before an evaluation
#Atchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @bcdtech, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Q3: Do we enable educators by using the “expert model” for AT Service Delivery? How can we change that?
#Atchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
lots of advocate driven requests for full evals. they shoot down the consult model despite attempts to edu on benefit.
#ATchat
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:29 PM EDT
We do too.
#ATChat
In reply to @PattyATP
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Get Ready
#CTG17
We will be hosting
#ATchat
live during the conf. Wed night 10/18. Location TBD Stay Tuned!
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A2: A big piece is looking at the whole child and engaging the entire team to paint a complete picture.
#ATchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Anyone else having trouble with Tweetdeck tonight?
#atchat
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Couldnt agree more!
#ATChat
In reply to @The_app_guide
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:30 PM EDT
That's too bad. This is an opportunity to educate advocates, just like we educate staff. Eval is not always better!
#ATchat
In reply to @PattyATP
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
I always say Forethought, not Afterthought.
#ATChat
In reply to @KarenJan, @HarleyMamaK, @bcdtech, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
No (knocks on wood!) Not having any issues tonight
#Atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:31 PM EDT
We see that as well. Partly because, imho, the team has not responded to at consult requests with expertise & partly pushy advocate
#atchat
In reply to @PattyATP
MelissaEDerr
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
would like to see AT considered for all IEPs & Ss. Use evals infrequently. Evals often prolong getting tools into Ss hands
#atchat
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
We need to educate parents and advocates about benefits of consultation v. Evals.
#atchat
In reply to @PattyATP
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Gave up on tweetdeck and flipped over to
https://t.co/halXivupai
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan
JudithSchoonov1
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
As an aside, I like the words collaboration and assessment over consultation and evaluation
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp, @VickiBostonSLP, @KerriHslp
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Yes. Also, if the team doesn't have the ability to describe their "AT process", advocate may think nothing is happening
#ATchat
In reply to @bcdtech, @PattyATP
MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:32 PM EDT
great point! Evals do not seem to accurately describe a student (most of the time).
#edt5334
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3- I think evals might enable some educators, but you still need someone to be the point person to learn about the tools and share.
#ATchat
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: We empower educators and students by the gradual release of responsibility model- goal is for them to become their own expert.
#ATChat
In reply to @mmatp
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
it is a work in progress....
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
adaptechcf
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3 I work really hard to educate the Ts about the tools at their disposal that they are not aware of. Proactive vs. reactive model
#atchat
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: Wouldnt say enable but we unintentionally create limitations. By relying on"experts"it doesn't become automatic 2 use the tools.
#ATchat
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I use the NATRI protocol for AT implementation plan to forestall the "nothing is happening" Helps everyone stay on track
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp, @PattyATP
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
There it is!!! You just won tonight's
#ATchat
Wrap it up>shut out the lights!!
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: We empower educators and students by the gradual release of responsibility model- goal is for them to become their own expert.
#ATChat
In reply to @mmatp
KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A3 Teams will build capacity when given opportunities to own solutions and outcomes through collaboration and AT consults
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I would also like to see more support and implementation of AT. The team approach with engagement works best.
#atchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @PattyATP
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
They can when you understand the whole child. The evals should consider utilizing the Ss strengths to build upon the weaker areas.
#ATchat
In reply to @MrsAndersonRm14
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I have at least one advocate who req. my input. and is receptive to strategies other than eval. that is progress.
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Yes. Those opportunities must be nurtured in order to promote continued creativity & problem solving
#ATchat
In reply to @KerriHslp
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Doesnthat take changing federal law?
#atchat
In reply to @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @VickiBostonSLP, @KerriHslp
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:36 PM EDT
we use the SETT framework so clearly describe the S and use team members input too.
#ATchat
In reply to @MrsAndersonRm14, @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I couldn't agree more.
#atchat
In reply to @MelissaEDerr
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A3: while not a fan of the expert model at all, have to consider that it takes time to keep up w/specialized AT/AAC & not all can.
#Atchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
building capacity empowering others...that is our AT motto here.
#ATchat
In reply to @hillavee, @mmatp
MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
This is so true!
#ATchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:38 PM EDT
That is the motto we should all live by
#ATchat
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:37 PM EDT
building capacity empowering others...that is our AT motto here.
#ATchat
In reply to @hillavee, @mmatp
VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Yes- evaluation is the official term that requires parent consent. Assessment intended as in between times/RTI like data collection.
#ATchat
In reply to @KarenJan, @JudithSchoonov1, @mmatp, @KerriHslp
bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Love SETT, need clear AT plan. I start w/SETT, talk w/team & work together to fill out our modification of
https://t.co/gxaOsESUrI
#atchat
In reply to @PattyATP, @MrsAndersonRm14, @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3: Shift the focus on making the Ss the experts, putting them in the driver seat for how the AT is implemented. Seeing + results!
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Check out our
#ATchat
@flipgrid
& tell us what excites you about our profession: Flipgrid link:
https://t.co/S4e0EG7MY1
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:40 PM EDT
That’s how it should be for life.
#ATChat
In reply to @PattyATP, @mmatp
MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
I agree. That's why I believe they need to be paired with observation and input from t that work closely w/stu
#edt5334
#atchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
My expert just submitted his review of iOS11. Guest blogger!
#ATChat
In reply to @lrdichiara
KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Love this!
#ATchat
In reply to @lrdichiara
lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:39 PM EDT
A3: Shift the focus on making the Ss the experts, putting them in the driver seat for how the AT is implemented. Seeing + results!
#ATchat
MelissaEDerr
Oct 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3:when schools add more technology PD is a must, not just give it to teachers, this will help with AT. But yes expert model enables
#atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Last question coming up in a few minutes. Great conversation tonight
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:43 PM EDT
AT Devices + Services = Student Success
#ATchat
MelissaEDerr
Oct 4 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A3:when schools add more technology PD is a must, not just give it to teachers, this will help with AT. But yes expert model enables
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KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
MTSS--AT Tiers: Tier 1 =UDL, Tier 2 =more personalized/suggestions based on SETT, Tier 3 =rec's from AT eval
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Q4: How should AT eval reports list tools/strategies? Call them Recommendations or Suggestions? or something else?
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lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
@MrsHenchel
We just talked about this today with two of our Ss. Allowing them to interpret how the tools are used = greater success!
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lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Recently held a PD on new tools & the Ts were grateful to have the time to explore and learn it hands on vs. having to figure it out
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hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Tier 1 is my jam! Apply this same model to curriculum- powerhouse! Love this!
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MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
I agree! Otherwise the technology doesn't get used if no one knows how to use it!
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PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A4. we list the barriers in bullet format as id'd by team then incld suggested intervention for ea. we ask the team to cnsider all.
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VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
This is what I'd like federal law around AT to reflect! Can catch most in Tiers 1 & 2, go to 3 when necessary.
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KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
MTSS--AT Tiers: Tier 1 =UDL, Tier 2 =more personalized/suggestions based on SETT, Tier 3 =rec's from AT eval
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adaptechcf
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A4: I write them as recommendations to the team to further discuss and trial
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
I like this idea
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MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A4: I list as recommendations, but recommendations for trial
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mmatp
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Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
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hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
@CAST_UDL
@joyzabala
... check this awesomeness out!
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VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:46 PM EDT
This is what I'd like federal law around AT to reflect! Can catch most in Tiers 1 & 2, go to 3 when necessary.
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KerriHslp
Oct 4 @ 8:44 PM EDT
MTSS--AT Tiers: Tier 1 =UDL, Tier 2 =more personalized/suggestions based on SETT, Tier 3 =rec's from AT eval
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A4: I always feel that the word Recommendation feels very "experty" & stops further discussion. Prefer "suggestions" or "options"
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A4 - we connect recommendations to the IEP goals. Whether or not to implement them is a team decision.
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hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
I do the same... for now...
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lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A4: It should contain flexible wording. Tech is ever-changing and we need to adapt as improvements are made to the tools available
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bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
We list as recommendations on IEP, but on implementation plan- more suggestions, trials, etc.. til we get things right.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:49 PM EDT
yes. We must make sure our AT suggestions tie back to IEP goals. That is what AT does>support the S to achieve IEP goals
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MelissaEDerr
Oct 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4: "Tools to reach goal #..." helps team see value of tool without being too intimidating
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PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
and they will b more likely to implement them in classroom.
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The_app_guide
Oct 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
A4: I give people options and remember that it is about people first and using technology that fits their needs/wants
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hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I’m finding recommendations are perceived as edicts. They’re for the team to consider.
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bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Agree and as the student changes, the AT often has to be adjusted
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PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
they r afraid they'll break it (some dedicated devices) Ts need to feel comfortable using tools.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:51 PM EDT
exactly! We have to remember that words have weight
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
Yes, we have offered fewer recommendations as the team can be overwhelmed by too many options. Become paralyzed.
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lrdichiara
Oct 4 @ 8:52 PM EDT
You said it! 👆🏻
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
In the last few minutes, anyone have a provocative question they would like to ask?
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bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Even the AT evals we are getting are doing more of a narrow focus, vs a broader outlook on tools. Mixed feelings about that .
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MaryannFuduric
Oct 4 @ 8:53 PM EDT
How about Optional Strategies? Gives options but sounds like more thought put into it then leaving just as "options"
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MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
I think if we all changed to suggestions then that would stop the conversation. It is not the words but the lack of team knowledge.
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:54 PM EDT
What does that look like?
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hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I like-What about strategies and supports?
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
that would be a concern for me too. bringing in an outside consultant should give the team lots of paths to explore
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MaryannFuduric
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Even better.
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jvanhoutensped
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
Suggestions for switch users to complete algebra graphing. Teacher wants to be able to add her own x,y numbers.
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#accessible
#math
PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I always try to include a strategy that a T has bn using just offer next level ideas to consider. Empowers T!
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MelissaEDerr
Oct 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
I feel like this working will keep the team open to discussion
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MrsAndersonRm14
Oct 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
do you think the word 'recommendations' has potential to stop the conversation too?
#edt5334
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VickiBostonSLP
Oct 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
As long as it's clear the team should pick an option (or suggest another) & then implement.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:56 PM EDT
Great point! I like to point out something the T is already doing that is having a positive impact
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PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I always try to include a strategy that a T has bn using just offer next level ideas to consider. Empowers T!
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
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tomorrow morning
hillavee
Oct 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Interesting- context? ...
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:57 PM EDT
We need to see what is already working and build from that foundation.
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PattyATP
Oct 4 @ 8:55 PM EDT
I always try to include a strategy that a T has bn using just offer next level ideas to consider. Empowers T!
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mmatp
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Make sure to follow everyone from today’s
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Let’s continue to learn and share!
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MaryannFuduric
Oct 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Great!
#alwayslatetotheparty
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MaegeK
Oct 4 @ 8:58 PM EDT
I think the problem is more the expert model and the fact that the team lacks tech knowledge than what word we use.
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bcdtech
Oct 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@karenjan
and
@mmatp
for another great
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KarenJan
- Moderator
Oct 4 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you all for another great conversation tonight. Have a great week and see you next Wednesday.
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