#ATchat Archive
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Wednesday September 13, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#Atchat
. Please let us know who you are and where you are from? Tonight we will be discussing AT Assessments and Consultations
participatechat
Sep 13 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Participate in the upcoming
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by sharing resources and collaborating at
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The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:01 PM EDT
John O'Sullivan Chelmsford High School Librarian/AT Specialist
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
AT Specialist from NJ & your fearless leader tonight for
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edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
First twitter chat!
#edt5334
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
hey John. Glad you are here tonight
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In reply to @The_app_guide
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Missing my partner
@KarenJan
tonight - will be typing like crazy to keep up!
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JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Joanne Sped inclusion teacher MA
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hey Kate! So glad you could join us tonight. Tell us about yourself and how you heard about
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edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:02 PM EDT
First twitter chat!
#edt5334
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Joanne! Glad you are here tonight
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In reply to @JoanneSabo
aarrii_demos
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I'm Arianna, I am at student at Michigan State University studying Elementary Education
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wernedat
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Sad I'll have to catch the day after report on this one...still in hurricane recovery mode here in FL
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In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
We will use the Q1, A1 format today. Don’t forget to include
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hashtag
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
It is good to be here!
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In reply to @mmatp
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Paige from Kansas- Special Education Facilitator focusing on AT.
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JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Thanks Mike! Glad to be here!
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In reply to @mmatp
edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
I'm a first year teacher, and am working on my Master's specializing in EdTech.
#1stgrade
#TX
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:04 PM EDT
HI Arianna. So glad you are joining us tonight!
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aarrii_demos
Sep 13 @ 8:03 PM EDT
I'm Arianna, I am at student at Michigan State University studying Elementary Education
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Q1a: Who conducts your AT assessments? Do you have an in-district team or use outside support?
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hey Elisa. Hope everything is OK with you and your family.
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In reply to @wernedat
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hi Paige! Glad you are here tonight. Looking forward to your thoughts
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In reply to @pbuckingks
Robertawhalen1
Sep 13 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Roberta from MA first time actually joining
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In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Q1b: If you have in district team: How are team members selected to ensure collective knowledge+skills to meet all S needs?
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JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
My heart goes out to you! My parents and sister live in Naples!
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In reply to @wernedat, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
So glad you are joining us tonight! Looking forward to your insights
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In reply to @Robertawhalen1
ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Kim Zajac SLP from Norton, MA MS & HS level. Excited to hear views & practice patterns tonight.
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pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:06 PM EDT
A1- IEP teams lead by the SLP and I am support as the team needs it. Teams call me to step in at any point they need me.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hey Kim! Thanks for joining us tonight
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In reply to @ZajacSLP
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Hello- I'm Vicki- used to coordinate AT in Boston & now clinical professor for SLPs in Memphis
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The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
It is good to see you, Kim!
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In reply to @mmatp, @ZajacSLP
ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: Our district refers out for comprehensive AT Evals. Informal low to mid tech trials are done by treating SLP.
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krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Krista from Nashville TN. AT and special educator.
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edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
What is included in an AT assessment?
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1a: As a consultant, I am brought into teams to provide guidance related to AT issues
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Hi Krista. Glad you are here tonight
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In reply to @krista_bolen
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1b: We did training to all SLPs on AT/AAC and how to do evals. They lead IEP team at building instead of outside group coming in
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In reply to @mmatp
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: IEP team lead by a chair with all the specialists that work with the student, sped teacher and regular ed teacher
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MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Tracy from Norton here. 8th grade Learning Specialist. AT is not my area of expertise but excited to join in.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
How does the district team decide what constitutes a referral out of district?
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In reply to @ZajacSLP
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1a our district team does most formal Evals. We also accept outside evals.
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krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1b our district teams consists of OT, SLP, special ed T , TVI. We also have access to audiologist if needed.
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kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Hi! Kayla, SpEd Teacher from Texas.
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#edt5334
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Q2: Do you have procedures for all aspects of AT assessment & are they clearly defined and consistently applied
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:13 PM EDT
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ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Case by case basis. Look at what is in place, what's working/not, trials, seek input if needs are not met by former steps.
In reply to @mmatp
ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
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A1. I do all the AT Evals for the Public school i work in. Sometime we have outside evals.
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1: In Boston we mostly did our own but outside people certainly weighed in. In Memphis, I've been asked to consult a few times.
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kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Q2 Not that I know.
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#edt5334
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1a: In-district people (like me), but a better way might B 4 people like me to train others on how to better consider AT
#capacity
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In reply to @mmatp
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Also, super excited we added an ATP to our team this year!!
@AliRando1231
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In reply to @AliRando1231
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:15 PM EDT
YES! YES! YES! Let's shut the chat down now :) Agree completely
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attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A1a: In-district people (like me), but a better way might B 4 people like me to train others on how to better consider AT
#capacity
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
I write the reports. I have a list of steps I go through
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kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Q1 I believe the Occupational Therapist in District. At least that is the one that comes into my classroom to teach AT.
#atchat
#edt5334
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: If you have procedures in place, why not share with the rest of us!
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pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: We have a manual that pulls in forms/ideas from GPAT, Illinois, WIAT, QIAT team uses SETT to lead discussion then set up trials
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attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1b: Everyone (Educators, Parents, Students) has knowledge & ability to brainstorm what a S needs, some know more in different areas
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In reply to @mmatp
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
#micdrop
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In reply to @mmatp
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A1: Steve Dollahan, a Lead Special Ed teacher/Coordinator in Indiana.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: Check out the SETT documents to help support the AT consideration process.
https://t.co/cAGQx5OuBz
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attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
I'd bet you know more than you think you know!
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In reply to @MrsMcGarryNMS
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
SETT is critical in the AT process
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In reply to @mmatp
edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A1b: I am in a small district, on a PK-1 campus. I believe our SpEd team handles all AT evals/assessments
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:19 PM EDT
I agree with Chris. We all have so much to share throughout this process.
#WeAreInThisTogether
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In reply to @attipscast, @MrsMcGarryNMS
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q3: How does your district determine whether to complete an AT Evaluation or a consult? Do you have procedures in place?
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krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A2 part 1 we use ASNAT to gather prelim info before working with S. Also using SETT with teams. Focus on eval being data for the
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
This might be a great time to reach out to them & ask about the process. The process only works if we all know what it is!
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edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A1b: I am in a small district, on a PK-1 campus. I believe our SpEd team handles all AT evals/assessments
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kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Q3 The ARD Committee decides from documentation by the teacher.
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JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:20 PM EDT
Agree and so helpful - great organizational tool to help TEAM focus on essentials when considering needs
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In reply to @pbuckingks, @mmatp
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A2 part 2 data for the team to consider AT, and not being the "experts" on the S and the classroom
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SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:21 PM EDT
Whoops! Forgot to include
#ATchat
. Many apologies!
In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3: I strongly encourage consult vs eval. Eval feels like a "drive by" See a Student, write a report, hopefully see them soon
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ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
I like the app AT Eval. It helps me organize my report and is a good check to make sure everything is included.
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mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Consult gives the process a chance to "breathe" Gather input from teams on trials. Leads to more complete solutions
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pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3-Start with SETT which guides questions AT eval when new question comes up that cannot b answered w/ quick consideration.
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In reply to @mmatp
edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: This decision is made by the ARD committee
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ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Case by case.Would love more of a map for reaching determination of E vs C more objectively.
#ATCHAT
In reply to @mmatp
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
To my knowledge we do not but the tendency was to go for evals however in my opinion the consult is more meaningful, and efficient
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In reply to @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3: ALWAYS contact us first, & we'll chat. Very frequently, we can provide some ideas for the IEP Team to consider just by talking.
#ATChat
In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:24 PM EDT
It is more efficient. Others don't think so but over time leads to better match between needs/abilities & features of tools
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JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:23 PM EDT
To my knowledge we do not but the tendency was to go for evals however in my opinion the consult is more meaningful, and efficient
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3-Eval if need cannot be met with items available in building- we have lots of tech that all students can use
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In reply to @mmatp
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3 Many of the consultations had AT eval already. It all depends on the need. I get to follow up.
#atchat
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
ARD?
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In reply to @kjgeorge71
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Such a good point. Start the conversation - that is at the core of AT consideration. Talk about it!
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In reply to @attipscast
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Do you mean ATEval2Go?
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In reply to @ColleenGorman13
ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A3:currenty AT Evals but working towards consults. At the end of my Evals I recommend we continue with the app/ tool make changes
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MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Consult feels more meaningful in most cases. Builds more relationship.
#ATCHAT
In reply to @mmatp
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A2 cont: always amazed at how we forget to include supports & tools that are available to ALL Ss w/ or w/out disabilities.
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In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:28 PM EDT
Good point. Consults build relationships-which helps build capacity. See
@attipscast
it always comes back around to that!
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In reply to @MrsMcGarryNMS, @attipscast
kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:28 PM EDT
I'm new at this. Not sure if I'm supposed to have logged in somewhere. I've been commenting through hashtags. Please, help.
#atchat
#edt5334
In reply to @mmatp, @attipscast
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Q4: How does your district include functional assessment in your student’s customary environments
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MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
Agree! I know so little of how we handle this. Would love more conversations to happen. Then classroom Ts can better implement.
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In reply to @ZajacSLP, @mmatp
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
I tried to do as much as possible through consult- so much could be quickly addressed by providing information on existing tools
#Atchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
You are doing great! We see your comments. As long as you add
#atchat
to your tweets, everyone will see them
In reply to @kjgeorge71, @attipscast
Robertawhalen1
Sep 13 @ 8:29 PM EDT
#ATchat
Q3 our AT has been a huge resource through consultation. We used to do more assessments.
In reply to @mmatp
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
SETT and WIAT = great places to start. Haven't reviewed Illinois. Added to my list. Thanks for sharing!
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In reply to @pbuckingks
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
You think there's "AT People" who prefer evaluation from experts over consults & IEP Teams doing it on own (w/ guidance)?
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#fishy
In reply to @mmatp
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Tweet Deck is really helpful when doing twitter chats. Allows you to follow a hashtag
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In reply to @mmatp, @kjgeorge71, @attipscast
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3 think that as tech becomes more integrated and UDL embedded the CONSULT model will become more acceptable
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MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Yes! The more we collaborate the more successful our Ss can be.
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In reply to @ZajacSLP, @mmatp, @NPSPPS
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
I do think this happens. Not sure why they wouldn't want to be part of the solution. It is discouraging
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In reply to @attipscast
edukate5334
Sep 13 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Collaboration is definitely the key to finding success for our Ss
#atchat
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
What if there wasn't a thing called "AT Assessment"? Instead, when an IEP team was stuck, they just asked for assistance.
#ATChat
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
A3: If the IEP team needs data for AT consideration, we do evals. But we also consult with teams as part of evals.
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pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
ppl still ask for AT eval even when there is effective consideration They don’t understand u still get results wi/ consideration
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In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I had a constant battle on that exact thing with a former coworker. She seemed to like guarding information.
#AtChat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Next week
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Our focus is AT across the Lifespan. Make sure to join us for a great convo
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
A4: We do.
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In reply to @mmatp
MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
This stuff doesn't need to be mi I tired only by specialists. Ts should be incorporating AT too.
#ATCHAT
In reply to @ZajacSLP, @mmatp, @NPSPPS
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
SETT is a great place to start! Certainly guides your trials and AT eval. AND... who doesn't love Dr. Zabala?!
#ATchat
@joyzabala
😁
In reply to @mmatp, @joyzabala
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Those "AT Experts" need to take these professionals under their wings and build confidence to work 2 meet Ss need
#Back2Capacity
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In reply to @attipscast
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Q5: What are some sources of data your AT team uses to finalize AT recommendations?
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MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
This stuff doesn't only need to be monitored by specialists. Ts should incorporate AT too.
#atchat
In reply to @ZajacSLP, @mmatp, @NPSPPS
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:35 PM EDT
I think that time in NOW! :)
#ATchat
#WatchMeAsIJumpThisShark
In reply to @JoanneSabo
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Agree - TEAM knows the Ss and the needs much better than an outside expert can determine in the amount of time the spend evaluating
#atchat
In reply to @edukate5334
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Some ind feel that holding onto the info is job security! It is just wrong. We need 2 focus on Ss needs. #
#atchat
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:33 PM EDT
I had a constant battle on that exact thing with a former coworker. She seemed to like guarding information.
#AtChat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
I saw this as the goal- embed tech in UDL, evals should be rare & more for complex cases, although even then consults can work.
#ATChat
In reply to @JoanneSabo
kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
I love my Occupational and Physical Therapists. They always share ideas. I use all kinds AT in my class.
#atchat
#edt5334
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
so important for those the know the S to be part of the eval
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In reply to @JoanneSabo, @edukate5334
ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
#ATChat
All evals I do include Ts, Ps, and Ss. I don't make recommendations that cant be implemented by Ts.
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Absolutely! It's everyone's responsibility!
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In reply to @MrsMcGarryNMS, @ZajacSLP, @mmatp, @NPSPPS
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
What kind of data? What kind of evidence? How much? It's tricky, right?
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In reply to @krista_bolen
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:37 PM EDT
A5 I read testing, talk to teacher(s)/specialists then match the need w/ the best of my research.
#atchat
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
consideration process needs to be the focus- problem solving by the team
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In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @JoanneSabo
kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:38 PM EDT
I have learned a lot from them. They taught me about work boxes & Motor Lab.
#atchat
#edt5334
Robertawhalen1
Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Agreed. There are always more students and more needs. Give em tools for success
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:39 PM EDT
I believe in collaboration because that is best for positive outcomes.
#atchat
In reply to @mmatp
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
A3: We encourage contact for consult 1st and problem solving discussion with team. Tends to be more effective.
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Totes. There's a perspective that "if I'm not doing evals then my job might be cut. What's my purpose?" The answer is "coaching."
#ATchat
In reply to @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Right. It doesn't benefit anyone to make AT feel more complex. We need to make this easier so people are receptive to solutions
#ATchat
In reply to @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP
ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:41 PM EDT
A5: Data from Ts,paras, SLP, input from Ts & paras about how impacts function at school;parents about how impacts life out of school
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Q6: What are the components of your written AT recommendations report?
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ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Agree most of my job is training and problem solving in the moment
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In reply to @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Totally! With every interaction with educators ask, "Am I building dependency or building capacity?"
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In reply to @mmatp
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Coaching is absolutely the need that I see! So many times eval provides list of recommendations but no one knows how to implement
#atchat
In reply to @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Over the 5 years I was there, my job shifted from mostly evaluating to majority training/coaching. I thought this was success!
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In reply to @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A5: are people using Google Forms to collect data? My teams love it. Very successful
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Evals are important. I believe follow up is important. AT should be part of service grid, not a one-time thing.
#atchat
In reply to @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Good question!
#atchat
#edt5334
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Do you have any forms you could share? I haven't created any yet but one of my goals
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In reply to @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: Stopped using the term "recommendations" in favor of "considerations". Recommendations = I decided. Considerations = You decide
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In reply to @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Plus we have to tell them that is what we are doing. It isn't about "getting out of work"! It is all about empowerment
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In reply to @attipscast
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
So important to remember: Words Matter!
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attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: Stopped using the term "recommendations" in favor of "considerations". Recommendations = I decided. Considerations = You decide
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In reply to @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
#Truth
Trust the team.
#ATchat
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Agree - TEAM knows the Ss and the needs much better than an outside expert can determine in the amount of time the spend evaluating
#atchat
In reply to @edukate5334
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Love this terminology
#atchat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
pbuckingks
Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
I would love to have student AT needs met by teams and I do is train
#atchat
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:46 PM EDT
A5: I don't use Google forms. I talk to people one on one and develop relationships. I can't read body language on a form
#atchat
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A5 Big thing is the tech able to remove the barrier, increase Ss participation and provide sense of confidence, empowerment
#atchat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Yes! Coaching at all stages of the process. How to get to what to implement and then how to implement it.
#ATChat
In reply to @JoanneSabo, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
KerriHslp
Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
A5: Google Form for info when req for assistance is made. Shared Google Doc at the meeting with IEP team to collect SETT info
#ATchat
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:49 PM EDT
so true! Makes everyone part of the solution. It isn't ME deciding, it is US deciding
#Atchat
In reply to @angrabe, @attipscast
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Q7: What strategies are in place to ensure Ss needs are reassessed as needs change?
#ATchat
krista_bolen
Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
THIS!!! Am starting this right now.
#ATChat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
#ATChat
This is an iPad app to develop AT Reports.
https://t.co/4KE8lUICDb
In reply to @SteveDollahan, @attipscast
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I got push back when I suggested AT on grid b/c not enough AT people- need to build capacity & have team understanding AT services
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
I was going to write that exact phrase but I ran out of characters!
#greatminds
#ATChat
In reply to @mmatp
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Nailed it! I use the phrase, "considerations for the Case Conference Committee include: ..." It helps with team ownership.
#ATchat
In reply to @attipscast, @mmatp
MrsMcGarryNMS
Sep 13 @ 8:52 PM EDT
I think that is a great thought. Would "force" Ts to implement more & be held accountable.
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide, @attipscast, @ZajacSLP, @VickiBostonSLP, @mmatp
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
Don’t forget-we are always looking for guest moderators. Fill out the form:
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#ATchat
ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
A6: Documentation of trials based diagnostic approach is not typically a formal write up. Outside agency eval are& have std format
#atchat
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:53 PM EDT
I work in a public school. If there is an issue I can not far away. With follow through you get higher success rates
#atchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:54 PM EDT
I'm so glad you like it! You digging the update?
#ATchat
In reply to @ColleenGorman13, @SteveDollahan
1in5awareness
Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
As a
#sped
parent I would B concerned @ a report w/"considerations". The
#AT
evaluator is the expert not those at the team table
#ATchat
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A5: Stopped using the term "recommendations" in favor of "considerations". Recommendations = I decided. Considerations = You decide
#ATchat
In reply to @mmatp
ColleenGorman13
Sep 13 @ 8:55 PM EDT
#ATChat
so far it has been very helpful. I plan on using it this year for evals.
In reply to @attipscast, @SteveDollahan
ZajacSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A7: Being in the classrms & community experiences with Ss. Regular consults w Ts also key. 1st report of shift in Fx = re-eval flag.
#ATchat
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM EDT
This was when we had 4 (3 as part-time) ATs to cover 128 schools in Boston. I'm not arguing against follow-up, just logistics
#ATchat
In reply to @The_app_guide
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Did you miss something tonight? Don’t worry-we will post the Storify from tonight’s
#ATchat
tomorrow morning
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
But the team implements solutions so they should be part of the decision process. AT specialist provides ideas based on S needs
#ATchat
In reply to @1in5awareness
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A6 The report looks similar to other sped testing observation, Background, recommendations summary
#atchat
SteveDollahan
Sep 13 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Lots to learn from the related services team! I'm always amazed!
#ATchat
#RelatedServices
In reply to @kjgeorge71
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Make sure to follow everyone from today’s
#atchat
Let’s continue to learn and share!
e_dauphinais
Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
#ATchat
This is my go-to process. I create a live Doc during collaboration time and the teams add to it on the fly.
@joyzabala
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: Check out the SETT documents to help support the AT consideration process.
https://t.co/cAGQx5OuBz
#ATchat
JoanneSabo
Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Thanks for another great chat!
#atchat
attipscast
Sep 13 @ 8:58 PM EDT
The idea that an AT person is an expert is a myth many in the field want to dis-spell. IEP Team knows best. We're more like guides.
#ATchat
In reply to @1in5awareness
mmatp
- Moderator
Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
This was a great conversation tonight. We will revisit this discussion later in the year for sure!
#ATchat
The_app_guide
Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
There is not enough AT specialist for follow up. It is a very small field.
#atchat
In reply to @VickiBostonSLP
VickiBostonSLP
Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
If you'd like some
#AugComm
chat,
@gallianstone
& I are co-moderating
#USSAAChat
tomorrow at 8 ET on AAC & Curriculum Access.
#Atchat
kjgeorge71
Sep 13 @ 8:59 PM EDT
Thank you!
#atchat
#edt5334
In reply to @mmatp