#swarmfbchat Archive

The ONLY defensive-themed chat on Twitter! Talking all things Defense and Game Planning. Tuesdays at 9pm EST.

Tuesday February 5, 2019
8:00 PM EST

  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome, Coaches to the Tuesday Night #swarmfbchat Tonight we continue our discussion on DBs focusing on skill development and drills. Glad you are here - tag a friend and let's share freely tonight! #getbetter
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:01 PM EST
    We will use the Q1/A1 format - Questions will start at 8:05 and be posted every 7 minutes (roughly). Please feel free to have side conversations and respond to as much as you want. Like/RT as much as you want for max exposure. Use #swarmfbchat in all responses!
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:01 PM EST
    @CoachJRawlins this chat is perfect for our back 7 skills and fundamental progressions! #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Feel free to check in and say hi - tag a buddy - let us know where you coach and what position. Always a good time to learn! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachJonesUHS Feb 5 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Jake Jones Defensive Backs Unaka HS Tennessee #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Aron Moss Analyst Elkmont HS Elkmont, AL #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
    John Grayson - Special Teams Coordinator - Nazareth Academy - La Grange Park, IL #swarmfbchat
  • CoachCCase Feb 5 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Cody Case LB Coach and STC Riverside Military Academy Gainesville, GA. Multitasking tonight. #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:04 PM EST
    I am really looking forward to learning tonight - I will be coaching the secondary for the first time in 20 years....need to brush up on new skills/drills/technique. #swarmfbchat
  • TheMorningJoe16 Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Joe Coffey Avon Grove HS Co-DC (1st year) / Corners Coach #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachAMoss, @rmacblue
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Wes Smith. Safeties/DC. Musselman HS. Inwood, WV. #swarmfbchat
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Dwayne DuBose creekside hs jacksonville fl #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Nick Velazquez HC / DC Orland HS #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1: What are the coaching points and drill work for either backpedal and/or shuffle technique? Do you allow your kids to choose based on comfort level? #swarmfbchat
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Cedric Allen Defensive Coordinator Safeties & Corners Lamar Consolidated High School Rosenberg,TX #swarmfbchat hello coaches
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:06 PM EST
    We use shuffle/half run and we teach it to the kids like dancing. You don't want your feet to touch or you'll fall. We don't allow the kids to pick. Would be too difficult trying to teach 8 different things. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
      Q1: What are the coaching points and drill work for either backpedal and/or shuffle technique? Do you allow your kids to choose based on comfort level? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Vince DiGaetano *Interim* HC @NYMaritimeFB #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue, @NYMaritimeFB
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Personally with Q1 I'm looking for ways to teach the shuffle tech without my kids drifting off a line and where eyes should be. I need good drills for hips as well. #swarmfbchat
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: back pedal - low pad level (shoulders over toes), eyes up, soft feet, hands ready for action! #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
      Q1: What are the coaching points and drill work for either backpedal and/or shuffle technique? Do you allow your kids to choose based on comfort level? #swarmfbchat
  • IanGuru13 Feb 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • USAFootballMT Feb 5 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Some kids are stiff, some our flesh. Some fast, some quick, why ask them to all play the same? #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKroell Feb 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Andrew Kroell Asst coach Freeport HS, NY #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachJonesUHS Feb 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1.) Whatever benefits the kid first. But soft feet. Stay on the balls of your feet. Flat footed and your toast. Hips low. Eyes on thighs during back pedal. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • TheMorningJoe16 Feb 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: We will teach both techniques and allow the kid to play to his strength. Pre-snap alignment and what we ask them to do scheme wise is not an option. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: try to teach as much tempo out as possible. Want to have feet underneath you to break on 3 step. Try to keep as consistent as possible. Pedal tends to get feet out of Hip circle for young players. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:10 PM EST
    A1: I think coaching both techs w/in same position group can take away from both in terms of attention to detail as the coach..we’ve done both, but backpedal only now..we work on vertical lines everyday to work breaks from every angle from diff phases/positioning #swarmfbchat
  • Joebruneel Feb 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: Learned from Jim Salgado, currently the Bills DB’s coach, to “tuck the toe” when opening your hips from a full turn. Just turn your toe towards the way you want to open to. Makes the process smoother. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • EPTigerFball Feb 5 @ 8:11 PM EST
    A1: We do “stamina” pedals. Sideline to Sideline to get their legs in shape, we also do W-Drills working different breaks (Buzz, 2-Step, T-Step) to get comfortable with what works best for them #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1: We have taught both shuffle and pedal. Both require clean feet/light feet, shoulders over toes, and most importantly keeping the feet within the framework of the body #swarmfbchat
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Q2: What drills/coaching points do you use for press man? Do these translate to/with the practice of in-phase and out-of-phase drills? #swarmfbchat
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1 We always start off with the pedal. For me it leads to all the other drills as we try and work on those natural movements #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: Spent too much time teaching pedal. Changed to shuffle in 2015. Fits our kids better. If a kid naturally pedals, we can work with that if he can make plays. #swarmfbchat
  • greek42e Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1. Shuffle - always about comfort. If struggling try to use other sport movements , if baseball kid tell him it’s a secondary lead technique If b-ball kid defensive position. Active feet in contact with ground as long as possible. Relax. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
    A1: We pedal. Nose over toes, quick feet that burn the grass. Keep shoulders square to LOS. Steer with your rear. Eyes on leverage hip. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Brandon Billups DB Coach Providence High School Charlotte, NC #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:14 PM EST
    Trevor Williams-DC, South Forsyth HS, Georgia. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:14 PM EST
    A1: We work W drills with emphasis on “T step” line drills with emphasis on 180 degree turns, 45 degree breaks. Never cross your feet! Shuffle - more geared toward keeping feet within cylinder, and route recognition #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • IanGuru13 Feb 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A2: We have our corners head up our receivers, making first contact with our outside hand, and taking our first step with our outside foot #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKroell Feb 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Always liked using the sideline for all shuffle, crossover run and transition drills. “Pin the chin” is a constant CP I stress for getting eyes back to man #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
    A1: stance and read pedal/ shuffle step are more POE as well transitions and working on being comfortable. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Shuffle, we call slide. This is deliberate. Don’t want kids to hop or click heels together. Want feet underneath. We teach no more than 3 slide steps, then if WR is still vertical transition into crossover run #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
      Q1: What are the coaching points and drill work for either backpedal and/or shuffle technique? Do you allow your kids to choose based on comfort level? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachJonesUHS Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    I use the yard line and back pedal down and open up. Feet always on the line. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Outside foot lined up with belly button of WR. First move we use outside hand to punch and push WR to sideline (all this is outside man). We practice it everyday. If out of phase we try to bring our hands up through the hands of WR to make them drop the pass #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Q2: What drills/coaching points do you use for press man? Do these translate to/with the practice of in-phase and out-of-phase drills? #swarmfbchat
  • TheMorningJoe16 Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Inside leverage, split receivers near leg. Fast feet, be physical (off hand jam), no lunging. In phase near hand to near thigh. Out of phase we’re running eyes on WR near neck #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    A2: i love teaching man coverage with the idea of man to man basketball defense. A lot of us grew up playing basketball. Don’t let him break your face, shuffle - move your feet! #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Q2: What drills/coaching points do you use for press man? Do these translate to/with the practice of in-phase and out-of-phase drills? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    As Saban once said, backpedaling is one of the most overrated DB techniques. I agree. Teach a slide (shuffle) technique. I still work backpedaling because you need it in the toolbox. I like the slide because you can transition easier, especially if open (zone turn). #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:05 PM EST
      Q1: What are the coaching points and drill work for either backpedal and/or shuffle technique? Do you allow your kids to choose based on comfort level? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Here is my clinic on the slide technique: https://t.co/AXwsYSwhlp -- #ArtofX | #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2: We are a press Cover 2 team, so it is a natural transition to our press man. We take away inside release. We want to stay over top the WR. Don't step towards the WR or open up the gate. We try to step flat down LOS to flatten release then work to get over. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Sorry late to the party Dana Arthur Defensive Coordinator North Paulding HS Dallas, GA #AlphaDawgDefense #swarmfbchat
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2 We play lots of man so start with inching our feet lateral drill & progress to as I say dribble your feet back kinda same thing .Being relax & never panicked. Don’t reach for WR control your hands . We don’t think physicality in man but control of feet then hands #swarmfbchat
  • USAFootballMT Feb 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
    A2) patience, movement, you win with feet, laser focus. No drill will every replace competitive reps. They have to learn, see feel the space and timing so it has to be at speed, even if just 5yd release #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • DougZerjal Feb 5 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Doug Zerjal-O’Fallon, IL #swarmfbchat
  • greek42e Feb 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2. I Love the @CoachChrisAsh old stuff from Iowa state. Progressively taught easy to understand. Really good. And out of phase drills are THE MOST IMPORTANT drills in my opinion. If they get good at these they’ll rarely get beaten deep. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue, @CoachChrisAsh
  • Joebruneel Feb 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Keep your eyes away from the arms, neck and head. Focus on the hips and midsection. Those areas can’t misdirect you. #hipsdontlie #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • EPTigerFball Feb 5 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A2: Feet = Jab-Motor-Go, jab step to start feet, motor til WR declares, go with him when he does. Hands = 2-1-None. BE PATIENT! We do lots of one-on-ones to work these. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: teach man in reverse. Start with man finish. In trail tech teaching ears, eyes,hands. Atttack the basket - always preach “when the ball is in the air we are all in man!” #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Outside foot on inside foot. Patience at LOS. Much State calls is shadow press. Not really focused on keeping the WR at the line, but denying vertical access and forcing them to declare their routes by the stem. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
    Always ISL. Rare Situations we are OSL. We teach inch back/scooch and kick slide. Different situations to use each, and also gives kids tools to use in their toolbox. Biggest thing we do is teaching press 1st w/o using hands. Press is a PATIENT technique #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Q2: What drills/coaching points do you use for press man? Do these translate to/with the practice of in-phase and out-of-phase drills? #swarmfbchat
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
    A2: Mirror Shuffle w/no hands, mirror shuffle w/ hands teaching off hand jam basics..preaching to stay square as long as possible and use arm length to keep distance..those drills then progress to next phase of turning n running and recognizing what phase you are in #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
    We show these clips every year. Great stuff all on YouTube! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @greek42e, @rmacblue, @CoachChrisAsh
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
    We work a 1st step drill to feather out w/o reacting to the jab or foot-fire from the WR. Most WRs will jab opposite the way they are going. This conditions the DB to not react until the WRs hips mark his route. Also work an off-hand jam & "hook" drill (in-phase). #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:12 PM EST
      Q2: What drills/coaching points do you use for press man? Do these translate to/with the practice of in-phase and out-of-phase drills? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Here's my clinic on soft press: https://t.co/Rp60lN8BkD -- #ArtofX | #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
    A2: Just like most I used basketball as my reference points. I usually focused on one component of man during the off season and that taking our read step and working on collision and getting on the hip pocket. Control chaos not overly chaos. Controlled Chaos #swarmfbchat
  • Skillutt28 Feb 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Jeff Lutt DC & GBLB Coach Great Bend High, KS Late to the party! #swarmfbchat
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
    Amen! Force them to run the “T” #swarmfbchat
    • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:19 PM EST
      A2: Outside foot on inside foot. Patience at LOS. Much State calls is shadow press. Not really focused on keeping the WR at the line, but denying vertical access and forcing them to declare their routes by the stem. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Feb 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
    BP points: pad level low, stay square to LOS, ready to break at any point, know and keep leverage on WR. For me, depends on coverage—1/3 is shuffle, crossover run, zone eyes. 2/4 I like backpedal. Basic drills like weave, backpedal, C.O.D. Hammer the basics. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachdavis86 Feb 5 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A1. We back pedal at two speeds slowing kids to dictate their cushion. We shuffle based or corners techniques and what defense we are playing. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Mirror drill or "Sword Fighting" as was taught to me with no hands really effective getting kids to realize the key to stopping a WR release is the feet. Then their hands become weapons, not crutches! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @coachsmitty_43
  • TheMorningJoe16 Feb 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A3: Safeties in the run game on the LOS we work keeping outside arm and leg free while not running themselves out of the play by going beyond the depth of the ball carrier #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachjsam Feb 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2: all depends on your philosophy of press tech #swarmfbchat
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Our safeties are either “extra fitters” or FORCE players. We teach ALL DB’s how to hard joint and set the edge. We have a drill called hard joint drill just for this. Teaches them to set the edge or be there for CCR. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I stand where number 2 would be and have them shuffle and read my hips breakdown when I breakdown than brings eyes on my hand to see where I’m pointing to, to transition to that area. Try put landmark at in, post, dig, corner and etc. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I make sure to work our sink technique w/ my Safeties & the pin-n-spin if the TE goes vert. It fits w/ our Sky coverage. At the HS level you know if a TE can catch or is a glorified OT. That's a factor during the week & if we need to practice another technique. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    ... Also use a "Travel" technique that was featured in an @XandOLabs article this month. That needs to be rep'd in inside hull + in Indy to make sure it's perfected. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @XandOLabs
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2: Feet, Eyes, Hands... Mirror drill, kick step, off hand jam, key near hip. If beat play through WR hands. Those are our main coaching points. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A3 Safeties always go to Inside I would say I probably need to get them more timein 1 on 1 Man drills . But if they gotta get run fits #swarmfbchat
  • coachdavis86 Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2. We teach or man techniques based on where we want to route the offender to go. We rarely leave a guy 1 on 1 so we always want to funnel him to his help or the boundary. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:23 PM EST
    But again not much true “hat and hands”, but will get them on the sled 1x a week at least working all WORST CASE SCENARIOS #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: we will work reroutes, block destruction, but the biggest thing is eye discipline. Work live reps in Indy on Run/Pass reads. #swarmfbchat
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Feb 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Stay square, be patient, key the hips, know your leverage and where help might be. Helps with In-phase with leverage, keying hip, and knowing where help is. Out of phase is attempting to close the gap...NOW!! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKroell Feb 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
    Mirror progression off sideline is something do everyday bc we play a lot of press man. We’ll start with hands behind and progress to off hand use. We’ll work in different wr releases. In phase out of phase usually do as separate drill working straight off sideline. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:24 PM EST
    A3: i think you have to take them down and work punch, step and punch, then put it all together with a hook or a drive block. Similar to what you teach an OLB. Have to get O guy off his tracks. Use your quickness off the ball to get into him before he gets into you! #Swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • youcandomore1 Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat we preached pretty much thee same thing... “break on every ball thrown” was our mantra for back 7... we tried to start break on “long arm” motion from the QB rather then when ball was in air
    In reply to @CoachDiG, @rmacblue
  • CoachJonesUHS Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A1 https://t.co/N6sO0HerUS #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    We teach to react and mirror them. We are square at LOS so if they move outside, we step outside, if they step to cross our face, we step inside to keep ISL. We punch same arm to shoulder. Good WR will clear that arm so we can get our off hand to their core or hip. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachAMoss, @rmacblue
  • coachjsam Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3: depends on how much of it is apart of your base defense #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
  • mzito59 Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3) we play a 3-4 so for us it has to be pretty equal . The Olb’s can be a dlinemen one play and the next play they will be a S.C.I.F. on a wr. Our olb are our best players on our defense because we ask to much out of them #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:20 PM EST
      Q3: How much time and what drills/coaching points do you emphasize with SS/WS who take on TE/FB/OL during the run game – particularly at the LOS? #swarmfbchat
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:25 PM EST
    A3 I think for us it’s not I would say the Tackel aspect but setting the edge at all levels #swarmfbchat
  • coachdavis86 Feb 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Q3. I love this work because it is taught the same way you would a stand up end or OLB. Keep outside arm free, squeeze, be able to make the tackle if ball bounces. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • greek42e Feb 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
    A3.I call the technique where they’re on the LOS the BFF technique.They Bang the Emol/Force the run and Fly to the Flat on pass. It’s an everyday drill that week if we are a facing a team that utilizes those guys. Any drill we do to work that tech it’s BFF drill . #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:26 PM EST
    Only do backpedaling in Daily Musts. Everything else is slide or a variation of off it. That's how I find time to keep it in the mix. I'm a slide guy. Whole heatedly believe in it. Had one kid, Demitri Goodson @ Baylor that just pedaled. I'm open if the kid needs it. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @JerryGordonFB
  • EPTigerFball Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A3: 4-2-5 our Hybrids work as force players and will play Spartan Tech keeping their outside free. Safety is a alley fitter, banana to near hip. We do a lot of 2 on 1 leverage fits for this along with our inside run periods. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
    Q4: We get a LOT of questions that ask about how to play Palms/2-Read/Combo. What is your base alignment and how do you practice communication and alignment with your players? Is there a rule about going from 2-read to Man or Zone based on spacing? #swarmfbchat
  • IanGuru13 Feb 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: we spend time on run support in indy with both t-stepping with cones, and block shedding with hand shields #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Feb 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • Skillutt28 Feb 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3. At least once a week. More of we will see a lot of TE or Dbl TE sets. Eye discipline, hands on, aggressive fits without getting reached. #swarmfbchat
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:28 PM EST
    A3: our Safeties go to inside run period and get coach up on it. We also can have a blitz on barrels period or bring the bags out and walk thru responsibility #swarmfbchat
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A4 Y’all got my answer last week about Palms Coverage lol #Swarmfbchat
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
    A3: We work crease-alley-outside fits. LB/S/CB. Also do inside run session. He is either crease or alley player depending on where the OLB is aligned. Depend on coverage our SS will be in 2 deep, man, or flats. Work each scenario (team specific) in 7 on 7 and team. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • NMaksimchuk Feb 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachKroell Feb 5 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Any time we can get safeties down for inside run to see and feel their fit the better. Takes some time for young safeties to understand their critical in run game. Indy time with them keying TE/OT/FB with bags then transferring to big picture in team is huge. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
    CB and Safety are reading 2 for 3 read steps. CB will shuffle/slide for 3 steps, safety will slow pedal for 3 steps. If 2 is out before the 3 read steps CB will buy 2 and safety will work over top of 1. If 2 is negative NOW, CB will drive outside of 1 #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
      Q4: We get a LOT of questions that ask about how to play Palms/2-Read/Combo. What is your base alignment and how do you practice communication and alignment with your players? Is there a rule about going from 2-read to Man or Zone based on spacing? #swarmfbchat
  • youcandomore1 Feb 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A) we always figured in those matchups we would have the more athletic player... practiced and used “wiggle” technique to avoid blocker and get to ball carrier... typically feinted inside then wiggled outside to keep leverage #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:30 PM EST
    A3: We do a V drill. Start defeating WR blocks. Then can progress by adding a TE of FB. Basis of the drill is there is less space closer to LOS so don't spend time on WR and keep your leverage as you get to LOS. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachFitzHSS Feb 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A2) -Shuffle Mirror -Shuffle Mirror, Kick Step -Kick Step, Switch Back *Never cross over, eyes lock to hip* #swarmfbchat
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A3: we drill the safeties during inside run. We also try to define their fit. Force/fold and have that definition be implicit to the coverage they play. That way our safeties can have freedom to play without a bunch of “if thens”. #swarmfbchat
  • NMaksimchuk Feb 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A2: maintain and keep inside leverage. Drills are focused on maintaining inside leverage. Very rare to see HS QB throw fade ball consistent #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • IanGuru13 Feb 5 @ 8:31 PM EST
    A4: We play our safeties 10 yards off the ball over # 2, and our corners head up the receivers on the LOS. We get that jam, trying to force the receivers inside funneling to the safeties. If there is no flat threat, we sink vertical, treating it like quarters #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • USAFootballMT Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I’ll give you a crazy one here. I hate coach forced alignment. Align for the job! If you can do it tighter/wider/insider take that freedom. It gives ‘false looks’. Give player as much freedom as possible and still get the job done. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    CBs are 1x7 OSL and Safeties are 2x12 ISL. If 1 is outside the numbers then he will be 1x7 ISL. We tell the safety to LOCK it if he feels he CANNOT get over 1. We drill this DAILY! #Swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
      Q4: We get a LOT of questions that ask about how to play Palms/2-Read/Combo. What is your base alignment and how do you practice communication and alignment with your players? Is there a rule about going from 2-read to Man or Zone based on spacing? #swarmfbchat
  • NMaksimchuk Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A3: Usually in pre practice. Teaching them to help make OLB right no matter what. Keep pounding leverage concept. If you are outside stay outside...inside stay inside. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A3: We teach hand placement on 1/2 man like we would our DL at LOS...when literally on the LOS covering up a TE, we spill kick outs just like our DEs would...DB behind them will force...this keeps our run fit philosophy consistent regardless of who is where really #swarmfbchat
  • coachdavis86 Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Q4. When any coverage the free safety’s communication is imperative. When we combo the coverage the weak safety must equally communicate his coverage to his side to avoid confusion on drips and zones. #Swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBillups_ Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
    A4: we are working on improving our communication we have our different calls. But we want to make sure our guys understand when to do what so more visuals are coming #swarmfbchat
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
    I know there is a big debate about the 5 yard rule and my 3 read step answers. I’ve been running palms for a while and we encountered teams who would mess with the 5yd rule , so the 3 read step timing works out better #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
      Q4: We get a LOT of questions that ask about how to play Palms/2-Read/Combo. What is your base alignment and how do you practice communication and alignment with your players? Is there a rule about going from 2-read to Man or Zone based on spacing? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
    If we see a hitch/corner we teach C to float in middle to take away corner route & make a play on hitch. Currently reading this to learn more! #swarmfbchat
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: oddly enough I’ve never coached this coverage (thought i had them all). I’ll hang up and listen (read). #Swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:27 PM EST
      Q4: We get a LOT of questions that ask about how to play Palms/2-Read/Combo. What is your base alignment and how do you practice communication and alignment with your players? Is there a rule about going from 2-read to Man or Zone based on spacing? #swarmfbchat
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: we align 6-1 at corner and 12-1 at safety. We communicate using hand signals and words. Both communicating the same thing. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • EPTigerFball Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
    A4: 4-2-5 and if we get tight spacing particularly stack, bunch, or cut splits we will make a simple bingo call. Press the point and take them as they finish, CB-1 Hybrid-2 Safety/ILB 3 #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • USAFootballMT Feb 5 @ 8:34 PM EST
    Personal feeling. Pedal and shuffle are most over coached aspect of the game! It’s not normally the pedal that let them down, its reading the play while pedaling. They react slow, get run by, we blame pedal, it’s usually not. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachMach, @rmacblue
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Also we define what “2 up” is and where the vision goes from that divider point. #Swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
    I also have a video of my Read Drill on my DB Resource Page: https://t.co/NmRXZAuUzk ... Tons of info on there. Including my 2-Read (Cloud) pedagogy article. #ArtofX | #swarmfbchat
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A4: haven’t played it in a couple years, but base rule for CB is 5x1 outside #1. OLB apex EMOL #2 S is apex 1-2. If we get a split of 5-6 yards we would go 1/4s to 2 read. Lot of “IN/OUT” “YOU” calls. Takes lots of reps! Very effective coverage! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachMach Feb 5 @ 8:35 PM EST
    Biggest coaching point is matching foot fire of the WR, maintaining leverage, and GIVING GROUND to make WR release. Then we off-hand jam. Biggest mistake kids make is lunging at WR and/or losing leverage. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Q5: How do you teach defeating the stalk block with your CBs? Ultimately, how will you emphasize body position/hand placement on contact? #swarmfbchat
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: do a lot of fit drills on air followed by run pods and half line skell constantly working fit and angles. Get them to see the fit for all supports #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Harold Barnett too? 😏 #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachFitzHSS
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Coach sets the structure, but the players play. I make sure the understand the function of each coverage & let them play. In practice give structured info & let them react. Later we come back & talk about why it worked or failed. #swarmfbchat
    • USAFootballMT Feb 5 @ 8:32 PM EST
      I’ll give you a crazy one here. I hate coach forced alignment. Align for the job! If you can do it tighter/wider/insider take that freedom. It gives ‘false looks’. Give player as much freedom as possible and still get the job done. #swarmfbchat
      In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachArthur71 Feb 5 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Our corners ALWAYS fit outside of #1. Never drive down until CONTACT is made. Same with safeties. If the guy you are reading makes CONTACT it’s time to come down and fit the alley. Never COME DOWN UNTIL CONTACT IS MADE!!! #Swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Q5: How do you teach defeating the stalk block with your CBs? Ultimately, how will you emphasize body position/hand placement on contact? #swarmfbchat
  • DwayneDuBose4 Feb 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
    Agreed coach, it’s all about creating a rhythm for the db’s to disperse the routes of the receivers. #Swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachArthur71
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
    All 5 Questions are out there - you guys made me work tonight! What a night of sharing - some really good stuff out there. This has been fantastic - can't wait to go through it all. #swarmfbchat
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A5: This is the V Drill I mentioned. We attack our leverage side and with outside arm-strike to break his elbow, then punch or rip through. He doesn't have ball so don't spend time on him, but you can't just go around. Gotta be violent. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Do not let them get into your chest/pads. Very similar to deal in that aspect. We can use a swim or rip to get past or just be stronger. We try to force the run back inside where our other players are. Stay low & have violent hands the 2 main things! #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Q5: How do you teach defeating the stalk block with your CBs? Ultimately, how will you emphasize body position/hand placement on contact? #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
    Call that Crab-n-cone w/ eyes to QB. Give a stop or out call to the OLB to trigger him. Saf tops the Corner route if Smash. #swarmfbchat
    • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:33 PM EST
      If we see a hitch/corner we teach C to float in middle to take away corner route & make a play on hitch. Currently reading this to learn more! #swarmfbchat
  • IanGuru13 Feb 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5: We emphasize getting our pad level lower than the receiver, and making first contact at the breastplate. Then we shed the blocker toward the sideline. “Shock and shed” #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • NMaksimchuk Feb 5 @ 8:39 PM EST
    A5: Maintain outside leverage. Need to stay disciplined and trust safety will fill inside. Shed block drill is amazing. Check out Nick Saban DB drills at Bama #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachjsam Feb 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5: block destruction should be the same regardless of position just have to teach leverage #swarmfbchat
  • TheMorningJoe16 Feb 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5: From a contain standpoint we teach to attack the outside leg of the receiver. From there you need to fight to get hip to hip(WR outside hip) / slide butt to butt and replace him. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A4: 1 by 6 with safety at 10. Spacing makes a difference and can even change the support. All about leverage. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:40 PM EST
    A5 we use stand up but and press drills. Preach heavy hands shock the guy and extend I where your help is #Swarmfbchat
  • CoachWilliams22 Feb 5 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A5: Stole this from @JnashCoach . We shock with violent intentions. We want to create space through collision with the WR. Eliminates double moves. Tests their ‘want to’ and creates the leverage we want. Most have longe limbs and we don’t want to hand fight. #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:41 PM EST
    Leverage & the runner's shoulders. Must keep outside arm free unless the runner's shoulders are N-S & can cut in. Also alignment. Wider you can cut in sometimes but when WRs get close set the edge & vice. Also need to butt-n-press or dip-n-rip. Need tools in toolbox. #swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Q5: How do you teach defeating the stalk block with your CBs? Ultimately, how will you emphasize body position/hand placement on contact? #swarmfbchat
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:41 PM EST
    A4: For me the easiest way to master 2-Read is to run 2on2 half field route combos over n over n over forcing the safety n corner to communicate and utilize our buy line rules correctly...more reps, better it all gets...dam near an everyday drill throughout the year #swarmfbchat
  • CoachSapp14 Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A4 $ is 1x11 and CB is 6x2 depending on split of #1 skate by CB reading #2 to #1 while forcing inside release of #1 Once #2 WR clears 5 yds eyes go to 1 combo off = play MOD. If splits tight or wide we zorro (zone off routes) also will game plan combo off tendencies #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • JRGrayson Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: honestly this might make me sound like a simpleton, BUT just get your hands on the outside wing tip and just bench press that guy like your life depends on it. Make sure you’re on the outer half and pump those feet like pistons! Beat him up! So all 3? #Swarmfbchat
    • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Q5: How do you teach defeating the stalk block with your CBs? Ultimately, how will you emphasize body position/hand placement on contact? #swarmfbchat
  • EPTigerFball Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Attack the block! Attack middle to outside of blocker and keep your outside free, force the runner to your help. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • rmacblue - Moderator Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    My sincere thanks to all of you on here tonight. This has been very educational - lots of solid minds sharing best practices! As always, it's my pleasure to bring the #swarmfbchat to you each Tuesday night.
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    It has allowed my young DBs to grow exponentially. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @USAFootballMT
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: HAVE to maintain outside leverage. Inside hand on outside number of WR. Keep outside half free. Get your butt to the sideline. If WR worth a shit for blocking we focus on these during week- Push, pull, rip or push, pull, swim. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachDiG Feb 5 @ 8:42 PM EST
    A5: big on stack to attack. Need to work hips past hips to bend back against the pressure of the blocker. Anticipate being pressed out #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • mzito59 Feb 5 @ 8:43 PM EST
    #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachBaud Feb 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Must shoot your hands and get separation, find the ball. Then what to do depends on how far you are from the ball. Can push-pull or rip if you have time/space, or if too close to ball stalemate him, keeping outside leverage and wait for help. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • mzito59 Feb 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
    #Swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Splits & runner's shoulders. Wide splits = you can cut inside, tight = hold the edge. Outside arm free & vice if shoulders are square. They must know leverage & how that effects ability. Actually went over that today! 🤣 #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachWilliams22
  • CoachKroell Feb 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
    We’ll only play 2 read to boundary and that is a check made by safety. Don’t over coach alignment. If they understand the concept, they should be able to align for success. Team alignment period everyday to work on this and communication. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • CoachOwen321 Feb 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Dan Owen DC Keiser U A5: we teach strike points across our whole defense, pic attached, we emphasize the 33 strike more than anything all 5 fingers up to a pull arm over or push pull technique to disengage #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • greek42e Feb 5 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A5. After teaching basics have them “cross train” with other groups likeOLBsDEs. similar to force drills OLBs do and similar to pass rush drills DEs do.was reading @XandOLabs article on Dave Arandas simulated pressures and either he or nother coach mentioned that. #Swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue, @XandOLabs
  • MTCoachBerry Feb 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
    Thanks for hosting Ryan! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachdavis86 Feb 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A5. We want to stack, exaggerate the rip and attack our fit. For corner that is usually outside of the defender if the ball is to. If the ball is away we are usually in a trail position. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:47 PM EST
    I get punch pads (boxing) & will use them to give the kids an aiming point. Raise it up to my neck & the kids punch w/ off hand (butt of palm). Has really helped us. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachMach, @rmacblue
  • Coach_NW_ETHS Feb 5 @ 8:49 PM EST
    A5) understand run fit first and then attack half man, be physical, stay low, stay square to LOS, keep arm/leg free and ready to shed. Teaching it against air, wall through, bags, and then eventually full speed. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:49 PM EST
    I never teach a hard ceiling. Always react to what you see. Even a 10 yd Sail route is an out cut. We play that. Rep the 3/5/10 yd outs in half-line. CBs learn to read route depths & where to expect cuts. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachArthur71, @rmacblue
  • CoachV_OHS Feb 5 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Love this chat coach! Thanks for hosting! #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:50 PM EST
    A5: With AGGRESSION..teach how to “wax” the arms of the WRs down to beat him w/out fully engaging w/ him in open field..also hav to teach simple push/pull block destruction if they do get fully engaged...when in doubt, solve problems w/ aggression, WRs dont like that #swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Right, want a jab, not a haymaker. Get WR off balance & hook the near elbow (get in-phase). #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachDiG, @CoachMach, @rmacblue
  • CoachOwen321 Feb 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A5: examples of our 33 strike then our push pull and pull arm over techniques #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • robertpomazak Feb 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
    A1: backpedal is part of the weekly profession focus on 1 line drills tempo Pace Speed Back n breaks Transitions out 2 line drills Tite weave Weave Weave CF turn Weave fish tail #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @rmacblue
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:52 PM EST
    Have found it gives a great target. I relate it back to bench press. You don't press w/ your thumb down. #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @CoachMach, @rmacblue
  • coachsmitty_43 Feb 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
    I learned this as the “Attitude Drill” and I’ve loved it ever since #swarmfbchat
    In reply to @mzito59, @rmacblue
  • coachcedric Feb 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Did a few videos on Installing Iowa St.Dime defense. Any coaches interested in watching let me no can share #Swarmfbchat
  • The_Coach_A Feb 5 @ 8:57 PM EST
    The way it was explained to me by Phil Bennett was it allows the DB to track the ball (zone turn) & is an easier transition for the hips (already open). I've found this to be true. I'm actually in the minority on using it in off man. I think it's much more efficient. #swarmfbchat
    • FrshYelGrizzly Feb 5 @ 8:55 PM EST
      I watch games at every level and nobody backpedals anymore I would love to breakdown. Interceptions in college and the NFL and chart pedal vs bail on those plays
      In reply to @The_Coach_A
  • CoachAMoss Feb 5 @ 8:58 PM EST
    All you #swarmfbchat guys let's keep talking! We've got another chat at 8:30 CST. Go check out @NoFlyZoneChat1 it will be our first ever chat! #NFZCHAT