#nhed Archive
An chat run by New Hampshire educators.
Sunday April 10, 2016
7:00 PM EDT
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NHed
! Tonight's topic is about how we find the strength to push past false summits.
https://t.co/GAqXuiltHE
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
Tonight's
#NHed
topic was inspired by a hike I took with my family today in the Ossipee Mountains:
https://t.co/yZsrCRuaCy
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:01 PM EDT
Good evening
#NHed
Love the topic for tonight's chat! Merri, AP excited to spend the next hour with favorite educators.
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Tonight’s
#NHed
chat will be archived & it and past chats can be found at:
https://t.co/MPBxsHCq8K
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:02 PM EDT
#NHed
There are so many metaphors to link hiking and learning. We'll see if we can't craft one tonight!
guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:02 PM EDT
Tod, media specialist in Claremont
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:02 PM EDT
SR, sped T from MA. Loving this topic for both the idea and the metaphor for learning!
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:03 PM EDT
So great to see these familiar faces for
#NHed
tonight!
@guilfordt
@gallianstone
@DrMerriRajaniem
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:04 PM EDT
I'm your
#NHed
host & walkabout extraordinaire, John Martin out of the incredible White Mountains of New Hampshire.
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:04 PM EDT
@edventures
There are a lot of obstacles in the way of hiking & learning... Learning can be an uphill climb
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:04 PM EDT
@DrMerriRajaniem
@edventures
and sometimes getting out the door to start at all is the biggest challenge of all....
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:05 PM EDT
#NHed
roll call! Who is here tonight? Share a bit of yourself & tell us about your favorite hike, walk or path!
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:07 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@DrMerriRajaniem
True! A warm bed & hot coffee were a siren's song this am! But sad puppy eyes made a compelling case.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:08 PM EDT
Hi, I'm Merri, an AP in KY MOVING to NH/ME in JUNE! Love the NH mountains! Avid hiker, kayaker, nature lover. Saw an eagle today
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:08 PM EDT
@edventures
@DrMerriRajaniem
convincing myself I'd "just go for a short walk" got me out the door this AM - once I get to the pond...
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:08 PM EDT
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@DrMerriRajaniem
Any
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job leads?
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
I've hiked the Appalachian Trail through NH, except crossing the state line into Maine
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Welcome to
#NHed
Marie!
https://t.co/Le8pyoflTu
mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:08 PM EDT
@edventures
Marie Sullivan, Principal at SYSC,my favorite walk The Audubon in Auburn
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Oh, my favorite hike is the one I'm on at any given time
#NHed
https://t.co/EwM9HTe247
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
I've hiked the Appalachian Trail through NH, except crossing the state line into Maine
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:09 PM EDT
Every morning the dog gets me out the door! Favorite hike: Mt. Caridgan or Mt. Chocorua
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
#NHed
Q1: Sometimes in life, ok lots of times, we hit these moments where we realize we have a long way to go. How do we respond?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
One of my fav walks was when I was TAD to Hanscom AFB in my Navy days: Walden Woods!
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
I do not understand you dog people. Nor the people who mask the nature with headphones.
#bunnyperson
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
Catie from Laconia! Sales Rep, Tech trainer, Music educator, Grad student, Frequent hiker at Ramblin' Vewe in Gilford!
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Oooh, Chocorua is a classic! I see its profile every day when I come home!
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:12 PM EDT
I haven't walked it in a few years but it is a beautiful hike.
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https://t.co/Ondh23gLcW
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:10 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Oooh, Chocorua is a classic! I see its profile every day when I come home!
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:12 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
:) My dogs are my hiking partners when I didn't have any. Finished my 4K footers (Mt. Isolation) w/ my friend Kona.
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:12 PM EDT
A1. In school, it's why I love data. It helps me see the little victories, & the long term progress.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A1. Keep your eyes on the prize! Set goals, reflect on where you've been and what you need to do to reach the goal
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:13 PM EDT
A1: Make a plan, break it down into manageable goals, keep motivated
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:13 PM EDT
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A1: Q1 was a reflection on today. We hit what we thought was the peak only to learn it was still a mile away. So many choices to make.
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:14 PM EDT
@gallianstone
I just wrote PR & looking at last year/this year is amazing to see. Put the minimal progress of the Q in perspective
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:14 PM EDT
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A1 cont'd: In our case, the 3 of us leaned on one another & chose to keep going. Sometimes that voice of support can be all it takes.
guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:14 PM EDT
A1. Keep plugging along, stop and take stock of where I've been and where I need to try and go.
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:16 PM EDT
A2. I'm fond of moving the goal posts, declaring victory and setting a new goal. :)
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:16 PM EDT
A1. In my personal life, I'm fond of moving the goal posts, declaring victory, and setting a new goal. :)
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:17 PM EDT
I like this mindset! Definitely growth v. fixed!
#NHed
https://t.co/E0A18tHdR4
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:16 PM EDT
A1. In my personal life, I'm fond of moving the goal posts, declaring victory, and setting a new goal. :)
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mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:18 PM EDT
A1: What's the goal, work it backwards to make a plan
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:18 PM EDT
A1. I make a lot of lists but sometimes those get abandoned for different goals or plans.
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:19 PM EDT
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A1 cont'd: And sometimes we need to re-evaluate why we are there in the first place. Which leads us to Q2...
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:20 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
True...
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:20 PM EDT
@edventures
My mother always tells me I'm very good at making lemonade. :)
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:20 PM EDT
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Q2: There are times when you reach a point where you have to choose to go on or turn back. How do you make that choice?
edubabbIe
Apr 10 @ 7:20 PM EDT
Reversed Thresholds If in the given occupation.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:20 PM EDT
My professional setting for this year
#NHed
https://t.co/vQxY9DrKSl
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:21 PM EDT
A2. There is a need to reflect on your goal, direction, and progress. Turn back? I say no, try a different direction
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mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:22 PM EDT
Need to decide if the results are worth the effort
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:22 PM EDT
A2. Take in account my surrounding and environment and make a decision (in educational terms assess to see if students are learning)
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:22 PM EDT
A2. Honestly, I'm not very good at this. I tend to push on too long/far before admitting I should have turned back
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:23 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
Even that is an important self-reflection.
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:24 PM EDT
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A2: For me I choose to look at why we chose our goal, the conditions at the moment, and whether it is safe/prudent to continue.
musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:24 PM EDT
A2: I think that choice comes when all possibilities are exhausted and you physically and mentally can't take one more step
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:24 PM EDT
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@musiccargirl14
Do you have an example?
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:24 PM EDT
@edventures
Thanks. I'm trying to improve. I'm learning from all of you and all of my Twitter
#PLN
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:25 PM EDT
@musiccargirl14
IME, that's the point when I've already gone too far.
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:25 PM EDT
I tend to push too hard too, leads to negative effects. Gotta learn when to stop.
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:27 PM EDT
@edventures
When a student is learning a certain instrument, you've tried everythingto get them to play a flute but it takes too(1/2)
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:28 PM EDT
@edventures
that "WHY" is crucial. Incorporating that reflection earlier will hopefully let me see the choice b4 I'm long passed it.
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:28 PM EDT
@edventures
much air and they just don't have the lung capacity, but they have great rhythm and end up rocking on the drums (2/2)
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:29 PM EDT
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@musiccargirl14
That reminds me of someone who said earlier about reevaluating your goals. I like it!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:29 PM EDT
#NHed
A2 cont'd: At the time we chose to go on, but later I learned 1 of our crew had a hip prob. Is the summit always the goal?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:29 PM EDT
#NHed
Do we have goal fixation and is it healthy? In life as in education?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:30 PM EDT
#NHed
Q3: When it comes to learning, Is it the destination or the journey that matters in the end? How do you justify your choice?
cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:30 PM EDT
Pushing yourself and group to be best is the goal
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https://t.co/jQYjgSMVOd
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:29 PM EDT
#NHed
A2 cont'd: At the time we chose to go on, but later I learned 1 of our crew had a hip prob. Is the summit always the goal?
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
The summit is an added benefit. The journey is the adventure! Time spent in nature with family / friends
#NHed
https://t.co/sfxEpOcxmY
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:29 PM EDT
#NHed
A2 cont'd: At the time we chose to go on, but later I learned 1 of our crew had a hip prob. Is the summit always the goal?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
As an experiential educator, that was an interesting dichotomy. Evaluating each mbrs needs & nurturing that growth.
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mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
I think having goals are important.
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
A3. The journey, b/c honestly for most of my Ss, the destination options are pretty dismal.
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
It is healthy to have goals as long as they are reachable, when we set ones we can't reach thats when it goes over the edge
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:32 PM EDT
A3. Life and learning is about the journey. There really should not be a destination (END). Lifelong learning & adventure
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:32 PM EDT
#NHed
Goal fixation: Grades, diplomas, certifications - they so often tend to be things. But what about the learning, the connections?
guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:32 PM EDT
A3 It depends on your perspective, in a traditional sense is about the destination but nontraditional sense- about the journey.
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cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:33 PM EDT
Working with students and teachers is very similar. Pushing each to be best
#nhed
https://t.co/AoDwQsfWp5
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:31 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
As an experiential educator, that was an interesting dichotomy. Evaluating each mbrs needs & nurturing that growth.
#NHed
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:33 PM EDT
A3 cont'd. Successes come as the result of a lot of failure. The learning comes from reflecting on less than successful attempts
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:33 PM EDT
"The purpose of a liberal arts education is to make your brain a more interesting place to live for the rest of your life"
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:33 PM EDT
A3: Just like traveling to new places, you always cherish the journey. Those create the stories and memories you learn from
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Quote from Mary Patterson McPherson - former president of Bryn Mawr College (my alma mater)
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cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:34 PM EDT
Society is product oriented. What do you have to show for your work? Learning is hard to quantify for some
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https://t.co/CbbCYj6GTI
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:32 PM EDT
#NHed
Goal fixation: Grades, diplomas, certifications - they so often tend to be things. But what about the learning, the connections?
mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:34 PM EDT
A3: I work with a lot of special ed students with poor reading abilities. Picking up a book and reading for pleasure is a good goal.
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
I see that too. Funny though, it feels like that perspective is what gave us
#NoChildLeftBehind
legislation.
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:36 PM EDT
@mariees1960
But so is enjoying reading - and that can be done with audiobooks and other alternative formats....
#UDL
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:37 PM EDT
@mariees1960
Reading for pleasure is a great goal! It's also great to share a good book with a struggling reader
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:37 PM EDT
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@gallianstone
@mariees1960
Baby steps, and achievable milestones, they are the cornerstone of success for all of us!
#NHed
guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:37 PM EDT
But we are always trying to quantify our learning. Or quantify our experiences.
#nhed
https://t.co/ALWDP2rwEM
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
I see that too. Funny though, it feels like that perspective is what gave us
#NoChildLeftBehind
legislation.
#NHed
cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:38 PM EDT
No question. The new question is what are we producing for students? What do they need to show? Be ready for
#nhed
https://t.co/26SQOnxa3S
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:36 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
I see that too. Funny though, it feels like that perspective is what gave us
#NoChildLeftBehind
legislation.
#NHed
mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:38 PM EDT
I've had students that told me they've never read a full book before. I work with teenagers. Sad.
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:38 PM EDT
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@guilfordt
Or qualify them. Of all my research design courses, the qualitative approach was always more appealing.
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:40 PM EDT
#NHed
Q4: When looking at a long journey, how do you break it into manageable pieces?
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:40 PM EDT
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@mariees1960
But for them to have a supporter like you is gold! That person who slowly, staunchly supports their growth & dev.
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:41 PM EDT
@mariees1960
Ss don't need pity, they need dedicated teachers to make a difference in their education
#soapbox
#nopity
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cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:42 PM EDT
@edventures
#nhed
. Like anything we do in education it has to be with short term goals leading to an eventual outcome. pilot ideas
mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:43 PM EDT
@gallianstone
I don't pity them. I work hard to encourage them and find something they're interested in to make reading suggestions.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:43 PM EDT
A4. Look at the goal, break it down into smaller goals and strategies, check them off along the way. A road map with check marks
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:43 PM EDT
A4. Keep slicing into smaller chunks. Sometimes you over/under-estimate, but that's where those movable goalposts come in. :)
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mariees1960
Apr 10 @ 7:44 PM EDT
A4: Important to know where we're starting from, and where we need to go.
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:45 PM EDT
I break the year down in bite size chunks (quarters, vacations, days off, etc.) to set goals.
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gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:47 PM EDT
@mariees1960
I believe you. I also believe we have an obligation to change the narrative around sped/Ss & Lang is a big part of that.
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:50 PM EDT
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Q5: So what journey will you plan next? What steps will you take to get there?
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Map & Compass - know where you're going and how to get there. Use the compass to stay on the right path
#NHed
https://t.co/7ekzuIHyIU
DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:51 PM EDT
Map & Compass - know where you're going and how to get there. Use the compass to stay on the right path
#NHed
...
https://t.co/XhhxBgJrMz
cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:51 PM EDT
@edventures
#nhed
I want to see students authentically assessed on meaningful work
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:52 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
What does that journey look like? What is your first step?
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:53 PM EDT
A5. My next journey is moving to NH/ME. Apply for NH & ME admin certifications, apply for jobs, network
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:53 PM EDT
Starting on some S projects using a mastery rubric in place of my traditional Acc/Ind data - fun and scary. See how this turns out!
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guilfordt
Apr 10 @ 7:54 PM EDT
I'm not sure, changing landscape in the district has kept me having to reevaluate priorities and direction of goals.
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cpbossman09
Apr 10 @ 7:54 PM EDT
Competencies that have students present knowledge in ways that are pertinent to their world PBL, student led
#NHed
https://t.co/qt5ge6jeU9
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:52 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
What does that journey look like? What is your first step?
#NHed
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:54 PM EDT
We've been using a mastery rubric for classroom participation all year, but this is our first time trying it with academic skills.
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musiccargirl14
Apr 10 @ 7:54 PM EDT
A5: to explore North, south, east, and west and take what I learn and pass it to Ss and Collegues
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https://t.co/dbQLvqLTaN
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:55 PM EDT
I really want to move toward this model if it works well for my Ss (and staff) - want them to have more ownership of evaluation
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edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:55 PM EDT
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@cpbossman09
Would love to work with you on that. My school is doing similar work.
#Interlakes
#NHed
#CBL
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:57 PM EDT
@edventures
@cpbossman09
we've been talking a lot in our school about how to apply these same ideas to vocational skills & transition.
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DrMerriRajaniem
Apr 10 @ 7:57 PM EDT
@cpbossman09
PBL is a great way to engage Ss and teach soft skills with content!
#NHed
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:58 PM EDT
As we leave
#NHed
tonight, may every journey you begin start like this! Have fun this week and plan a new adventure!
https://t.co/i2ujbL5E9n
edventures
- Moderator
Apr 10 @ 7:58 PM EDT
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@DrMerriRajaniem
@cpbossman09
#PBL
is a great topic. I may ask my friend
@GingerLewman
if she wouldn't mind moderating a future
#NHed
chat.
gallianstone
Apr 10 @ 7:59 PM EDT
@cpbossman09
@edventures
agreed, but the road-map/competencies look different for Ss not on a diploma pathway.
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