#ASEchat Archive
The Association for Science Education (ASE) promotes excellence in science teaching and learning. Follow #ASEchat Mondays at 3pm ET.
Monday February 13, 2017
3:00 PM EST
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM EST
Is twitter the best place to share ideas? If so, why is it not your school/department?
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edubabbIe
Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM EST
Co-Teaching and National Problems Social class and anchors discussion.
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participatechat
Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM EST
Participate in the upcoming
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by sharing resources and collaborating at
https://t.co/mKOeusFf0N
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM EST
How much opportunity do you get to talk to colleagues about good practice?
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:01 PM EST
good place to share links to docs e.g. select committee evidence collection on grammar schools
https://t.co/lCbgIkD7ia
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MaryUYSEG
Feb 13 @ 3:01 PM EST
it’s good to get ideas from others outside school, otherwise it can become sterile.
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:02 PM EST
try to build it into every department meeting.
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Mr_Misquitta
Feb 13 @ 3:02 PM EST
Twitter is a good place to share. I used to share via email at school and yet sporadically do share at school
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Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:02 PM EST
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The more places to share ideas the greater the diffusion of knowledge. twitter is a good place to share information
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:02 PM EST
but it is only a prompt - limited no chrctrs doe s not allow explanations of 'why'
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teacherchalky1
Feb 13 @ 3:03 PM EST
We've used CPD speed dating, we give a slot in dept meetings, an I've done sessions with our NQT / ITT
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twinklresources
Feb 13 @ 3:03 PM EST
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- that sounds interesting
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aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
informally - most days as we all meet at lunchtime and talk. Staff freq seek advice from others too and we share a lot.
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Refthinking
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
Hope you don't mind me sharing this during your
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! I thought it might be a nice addition.
https://t.co/7DNPeOfzIT
@coolcatteacher
Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
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Speaking twitter my main hashtags are
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and
#physics
would love to have more to share physics teaching ideas with
In reply to @hrogerson
SKLchem
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
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we try to have departmental lunchtime teachmeets - once a term(ish) - with a theme for sharing ideas
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
But difficult to discriminate wheat from chaff on twitter. Lots of bandwagons
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
twitter = great to share ideas.Sharing ideas within department & school still can happens-twitter just keeps ideas new!
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:04 PM EST
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@hrogerson
Twitter good but face2face better so school and department first place. Need good shared space & time to share expertise
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:05 PM EST
also lots of opportunities over coffee to chat informally across science department
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:05 PM EST
twitter = great to share ideas.Sharing ideas within department & school still happens-twitter just keeps ideas new!
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MaryUYSEG
Feb 13 @ 3:05 PM EST
While Twitter and
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are good ways to share ideas, even better is that it builds networks you can meet IRL at
#ASEConf
& teachmeets
rbegum2013
Feb 13 @ 3:05 PM EST
yes i do that but find new staff not as much any ideas how to get them more talking and sharing
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In reply to @aegilopoides, @hrogerson
SKLchem
Feb 13 @ 3:05 PM EST
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share good links from twitter in weekly department newsletter; email ideas from
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as I see them
Mr_Misquitta
Feb 13 @ 3:06 PM EST
Share in the department during break times n have called teachers in class when I have found a exciting idea in class
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JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM EST
A lot of good practice shared via the prep room in science departments I've worked in
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SKLchem
Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM EST
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trying to share my teaching ideas via blogposts 'Fieldnotes from a chemistry classroom
https://t.co/mlSTzCUFNG
mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM EST
informally a lot. Formally-a weekly T & L idea on intranet page for staff.Also mini-insets often to share between dpts.
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:08 PM EST
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@hrogerson
Good collaborative team in school needs challenge and input from outside. Why Twitter,
#aseconf
, IOP Network important
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:08 PM EST
& a slot at departmental meetings for more subject specific at least once a month (if not more often)
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Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:08 PM EST
#asechat
, I like all of these and also find sharing ideas on
https://t.co/VoDgGaAriS
and PTNC always gets me thinking physics
In reply to @MaryUYSEG
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:09 PM EST
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really took off once we had met physically, and 'knew' who we were chatting to. Need element of trust
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JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:09 PM EST
Informal sharing over coffee and lunch is invaluable, but how do we have this contact with wider community?
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massignmenthelp
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
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Should the toughest kids be assigned to the best teachers?
https://t.co/3NhTh5TF87
AssignmentHelpN
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
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10 Simple Ways to Use Pinterest For Classroom Teaching
https://t.co/0i2sbvZqo7
mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
maybe try to share things you have done that did go well/that did not go as well and ask if they have any ideas to help?
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In reply to @rbegum2013
Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
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I agree nothing better for interaction. I am so lucky to be a PNC and deliver ideas at workshops etc
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
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@ViciaScience
@Newmanphysics
@hrogerson
Agreed, need to read critically as with any source of information but still great resource.
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MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
How do you make sure twitter sharing is evidence based and not just opinion/the loudest voice/the current 'fad'?
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:11 PM EST
Need good communications to build a team in school but also need external input to revitalise ideas
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In reply to @JonScott46
aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM EST
a local school to us has tried to set up regular Teach meet style event to bring together local schools to share ideas
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stormeducation
Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM EST
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Surprised so many teachers use twitter, but what hashtags do you use for science?
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:13 PM EST
I would go beyond twitter and suggest other 'social media' such as blogs need careful evaluation
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#nopeerreview
In reply to @MarcNeesam
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:13 PM EST
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@ViciaScience
@MaryUYSEG
All online fora
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@pedagoo
etc all quickly lead to demand for face2face and added dimension.
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:15 PM EST
For some teachers twitter, teach meets, blog and occasional conference is a great set of tools tokeep up with external developments
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BiochemSoc
Feb 13 @ 3:15 PM EST
We have free online resources for schools, including Sciberbrain =>
https://t.co/aZApqhn3Jy
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#ScienceEducation
ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:15 PM EST
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also use paired collaborative observations in department which rotate each term.
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:15 PM EST
I feel that there is a real danger of this.
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MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM EST
How do you make sure twitter sharing is evidence based and not just opinion/the loudest voice/the current 'fad'?
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NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:16 PM EST
Have a pick and drop folder per unit
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:16 PM EST
why rotate every term? Depends on structure of dept, but pairings could be most successful?
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In reply to @ashl3ylaw
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:17 PM EST
Does the sharing of practice have any impact? What is the last change you made that 'stuck'?
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:18 PM EST
Wold you create a google drive account for the dept for this purpose?
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Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:18 PM EST
I use this one
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and
#physics
. I loved to have more science teaching ones
In reply to @stormeducation
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:18 PM EST
I do feel that although there are those of us who enjoy external CPD, you should be able to learn what you need to in school.
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:18 PM EST
I have recorded a show for
@edutalkr
on professional learning, PLC, teacher collaboration, see
https://t.co/IpigjQGGC0
due 21 Feb
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
It isn't easy to make changes to your own practice without access to resources that do what you are trying to. IMHO
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NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
Do paired drop in session with a focus. Pairs discuss and share good practices found All
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MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
When a teacher shares but you think 'that doesn't sound like great practice' how do u challenge? Not just the sharing but talking
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Mr_Misquitta
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
I normally use teaching ideas from twitter any long term changes need to be evidence based
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Newmanphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
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Long may it continue, bet it is all outside of school time and on the excellence of the individuals?
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:19 PM EST
I would agree in 'dynamic' schools, but much more risky in 'stagnant' departments
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
This is true. Having twitter to get access directly to the information on the current changes has been invaluable.
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MaryUYSEG
Feb 13 @ 3:01 PM EST
it’s good to get ideas from others outside school, otherwise it can become sterile.
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
might focus on a particular yeargroup so may depend on who teaches which groups. Discuss then at dept meeting
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Mr_Misquitta
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
That is a great idea and I should try and make this happen at school :)
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @NgeeOg
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
Only if shared well, properly collaborative with those involved, with time for proper understanding etc
@hrogerson
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aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
good Q! you told me about Quizlet I tried it. Now used by whole dept & learning support asked me to train others
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NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
Do paired drop- in with a focus. Pairs discuss and share good practices
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM EST
we have shared space on school network to place resources / ideas that have worked well
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM EST
Agreed. Everything is context dependent - there is no single answer to success
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM EST
up to SLT to challenge and provide the opportunities. Surely everyone wants to get better, just need the climate?
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aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM EST
yes, outside school time - last one only had 5 of us. It is helpful though.
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In reply to @Newmanphysics, @JonScott46
teacherchalky1
Feb 13 @ 3:22 PM EST
I've put lots together for the new required parcs that other Ts have been using
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:22 PM EST
Working collaboratively is a really important aspect of embedding change to your practice.
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NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM EST
Do paired drop- in with a focus. Pairs discuss and share good practices
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:22 PM EST
For me the challenge was to get true collaboration and sharing in a diverse department
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In reply to @ashl3ylaw, @NgeeOg
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:22 PM EST
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saw a great presentation last week by James Richardson of
@EducEndowFoundn
on evidenced based teaching: recommended
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:22 PM EST
Much to be learned from colleagues in school but need external inputs too, incl research. Otherwise risk of groupthink
@hrogerson
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:23 PM EST
lots of topic specific demos. e.g. skittles for diffusion, pop it beads for meiosis & many different starters/plenaries
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NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:23 PM EST
Have a departmental area on the school intranet.
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Google docs seem to be an option with the downside of the intranet
In reply to @ViciaScience
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:23 PM EST
your resources will be having a great impact to a lot of people.
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:23 PM EST
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Have you got a link
@JonScott46
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JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:21 PM EST
saw a great presentation last week by James Richardson of
@EducEndowFoundn
on evidenced based teaching: recommended
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:23 PM EST
I hope you are right! With funding and recruitment challenges classroom practice may not be high priority for some SLT
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:24 PM EST
slot at dept meeting where colleagues bring something that worked well useful
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In reply to @ViciaScience, @NgeeOg
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:24 PM EST
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agree—have been party to many such collaborations...but how to make them sustainable?
In reply to @Newmanphysics, @aegilopoides
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:24 PM EST
Sounds like a good department/school to work in.
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM EST
informally a lot. Formally-a weekly T & L idea on intranet page for staff.Also mini-insets often to share between dpts.
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:25 PM EST
Agree. Bit like an internal teach meet
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In reply to @ashl3ylaw, @NgeeOg
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:25 PM EST
Yes, I have to agree. Also hear of well-meaning INSET ideas that don't get followed up so are a waste of time
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In reply to @ViciaScience
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:25 PM EST
Problem with many external CPD. No time, resource, support to properly share with colleagues and implement in schools
@hrogerson
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
Some teachers do not use twitter - journals remain a good source of (evidenced and reviewed) ideas for practice
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aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
I don't know - sometimes the events clash with other commitments, others have been well attended.
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TJohns85
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
I run termly internal teachmeets for all staff and am in the process of reorganising the VLE
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
It's extremely difficult to make a change to teachers' practice because we're so busy.
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MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
Are the CPD standards being used by schools when giving CPD? Are they informing teachmeets?
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Rendcombbiology
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Agree - part of our CPD policy for external courses is to to share ideas at next dept / whole INSET
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teacherchalky1
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
It just means there's consistency and all the skills are defiantly covered as there's a big overview
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Agree with this. Impact of 1 day ex courses can be limited. I liked it when the LA consultant came into school after a course.
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:25 PM EST
Problem with many external CPD. No time, resource, support to properly share with colleagues and implement in schools
@hrogerson
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JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
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https://t.co/QGQf9VNWlU
the conference organisers (GCC) promised links to presentations to follow
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Evening all
#asechat
ters. What are we discussing tonight?
@hrogerson
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DrWilkinsonSci
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Which is why PGCE and NQT (and associated support) is so important.
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM EST
It's extremely difficult to make a change to teachers' practice because we're so busy.
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TJohns85
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
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also have written a couple of quick blogs in the last couple of days after a whole day of sharing good practice in sci/1
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
Too many departments just struggling to survive without the time or space to really reflect, share etc
@ViciaScience
@hrogerson
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YeasminMortuza
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
@hrogerson
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One science dept I work with were given time off to go onto a STEM MOOC course
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
What is best way to share practice?
#asechat
Must be something
@theASE
discusses
@NeedhamL56
?
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Evening all
#asechat
ters. What are we discussing tonight?
@hrogerson
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teacherchalky1
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
The only problem with that is when other teachers are happy to take but don't contribute
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
how did you go about setting up internal teachmeets?I am looking into setting this up in my school-any advice appreciated
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TJohns85
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
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a list of T&L ideas shared at a recent county INSET day
https://t.co/EUFowSeMjy
/2
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:29 PM EST
That's a brilliant idea. That MOOC made an impact on my teaching because of the time that it was for.
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YeasminMortuza
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
@hrogerson
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One science dept I work with were given time off to go onto a STEM MOOC course
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:29 PM EST
I should not have said "problem with external CPD" - problem with "school culture etc" that allows this
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@hrogerson
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TJohns85
Feb 13 @ 3:29 PM EST
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and a blog on what colleagues are doing in KS3 science
https://t.co/NAs5Im4xvz
/3
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ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:29 PM EST
agree that this can be a problem but once there is a culture of sharing it becomes easier
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
CPD standard is starting to be used by external providers - be interested to hear if schools are using it yet
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In reply to @MarcNeesam
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
What is CPD?
https://t.co/KqohmM1RCc
see the implementation guidance here to make sure even 1 dayers have impact
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
your commitment to sharing and supporting is brilliant. Need people like you to help others.
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edubabbIe
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
The clear advantage of a language skill.
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Rendcombbiology
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
Annoying but definitely not a reason to keep sharing
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In reply to @teacherchalky1, @ashl3ylaw, @ViciaScience, @NgeeOg
ThorntonSciPark
Feb 13 @ 3:30 PM EST
We offer students a unique blend of industry & academia, & provide excellent facilities to enhance learning
https://t.co/WSraVEvRVn
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:31 PM EST
teenager's chemistry teacher does flipped learning. She seems to like it.
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:31 PM EST
teacher has to see the point, try it out, reflect, did it make a difference? otherwise effort to change is too great
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YeasminMortuza
Feb 13 @ 3:31 PM EST
@hrogerson
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Directed dept work on MOOC was successful because it was followed up with action-planning and peer-work.
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:31 PM EST
becoming effective teacher does not stop at NQT either - need PD milestones to be formally adopted e.g. registers
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aegilopoides
Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM EST
my HOD does go to meet others from local schools. Also signed up to AQA hub.
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM EST
did you manage to write any hinge questions? I think I would have got on better working collaboratively on that.
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In reply to @YeasminMortuza
Rendcombbiology
Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM EST
All changes from the top down 2 individual practice should be viewed as experiment and amended if needed
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stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM EST
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Building good trusting open culture really fundamental for sharing best practice
@ashl3ylaw
@teacherchalky1
@ViciaScience
@NgeeOg
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ZoeAndrewsAST
Feb 13 @ 3:34 PM EST
I've tried with my sixth form but so far not too successful. Will keep trying though.
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mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:34 PM EST
it is!We also run termly learning reviews when members of staff sign up to review the learning in a certain year group.
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:34 PM EST
I suppose practice can be split into two: things we should be doing most lessons and individual ideas related to a specific topic.
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rbegum2013
Feb 13 @ 3:34 PM EST
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impact also when people smile as you share a strategy that's helps ease the process of marking
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:35 PM EST
I think that good activities and schemes of work are really important. Sharing ideas for questions on a scheme is so useful.
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:35 PM EST
We are looking at how we can make our events more effective by looking at the standard for teacher’s PD
https://t.co/KqohmM1RCc
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:28 PM EST
What is best way to share practice?
#asechat
Must be something
@theASE
discusses
@NeedhamL56
?
In reply to @theASE, @NeedhamL56
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM EST
Evening all
#asechat
ters. What are we discussing tonight?
@hrogerson
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:36 PM EST
Should
@theASE
be organising more local teach meets for sharing ideas?
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hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:36 PM EST
I think school culture can be such a minefield when sharing practice. Some people can be held up so much that it sidelines others?
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SKLchem
Feb 13 @ 3:36 PM EST
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after northern Ase conference am trying to introduce hinge questions into own lessons and dept. Sow
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NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:36 PM EST
and the bottom up… we need convincing it's worth the effort, and change will not be sustained if doesn’t make a difference
#default
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Rendcombbiology
Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM EST
All changes from the top down 2 individual practice should be viewed as experiment and amended if needed
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JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
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in my experience training is far more effective when revisited periodically, with gap tasks. 3 x 0.5 days
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A_Weatherall
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
Sorry I'm missing
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- sharing practice is very important.
DSGhataura
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
Through subject specific groups. Often, cross departmental work is iffy.
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ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:38 PM EST
i.e. it takes place over extended period, with time for reflection and review, focussed on specific issue
#ASEChat
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
#asechat
in my experience training is far more effective when revisited periodically, with gap tasks. 3 x 0.5 days
In reply to @hrogerson, @ViciaScience
allchet94
Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM EST
Think that would be really useful...especially to continue aiding the prep for new a level exams
#ASEChat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @theASE
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM EST
Discussing this with husband. Teaching v=fλ, VERY different maths and science approaches! (Harder in science).
#asechat
DSGhataura
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
Through subject specific groups. Often, cross departmental work is iffy.
#ASEChat
In reply to @hrogerson
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM EST
whatever you do,should be part of a ‘plan’ with school taking responsibility 4 support/ collaboration opportunities/sustained focus
#asechat
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:37 PM EST
#asechat
in my experience training is far more effective when revisited periodically, with gap tasks. 3 x 0.5 days
In reply to @hrogerson, @ViciaScience
YeasminMortuza
Feb 13 @ 3:40 PM EST
#ASEChat
Yes, whole dept. focussed on writing lots of HPQs to keep the work manageable
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:40 PM EST
OK. Next teach meet up north is in Huddersfield on 28 Feb and all welcome to come and share ideas
#ASEChat
In reply to @allchet94, @theASE
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:40 PM EST
Teacher learning is not really that different from pupil learning. Revisit and space learning.
@JonScott46
@hrogerson
@ViciaScience
#asechat
In reply to @JonScott46, @hrogerson, @ViciaScience
SKLchem
Feb 13 @ 3:41 PM EST
#asechat
we have used a great idea from Shaun Allison '15 minute forums' has really got staff sharing ideas & discussing
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:42 PM EST
Lots of 'local'
@theASE
conferences taking place this academic year, inc at least two in March. Volunteer to present your ideas!
#ASEChat
In reply to @theASE
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:42 PM EST
#ASEChat
I teach it as a form of speed=dist/time
In reply to @hrogerson
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:43 PM EST
check out
@theASE
website for details
https://t.co/Z4q2KuMCOE
register please
#ASEChat
In reply to @theASE
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:40 PM EST
OK. Next teach meet up north is in Huddersfield on 28 Feb and all welcome to come and share ideas
#ASEChat
In reply to @allchet94, @theASE
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:43 PM EST
Too many cross-curr CPD too generic so misses everyone. CPD in domain groups likely to be more effective for many
@DSGhataura
#asechat
In reply to @DSGhataura
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:44 PM EST
#ASEChat
cascades usually need formalising to be effective
In reply to @DSGhataura, @hrogerson, @ViciaScience, @tguskey
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:45 PM EST
Does anyone miss the reduced number of 'Science Notes' in current SSR editions as means of sharing ideas?
#ASEChat
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:45 PM EST
You know this: the last INSET that had an impact on me was by
@TeachitScience
when
@TeacherJames140
taught me to film instructions.
#asechat
In reply to @TeachitScience, @TeacherJames140
DSGhataura
Feb 13 @ 3:45 PM EST
culumative vs hierachical and the interplay between substantive and disciplinary knowledge
#asechat
(2/2)
In reply to @stuartphysics
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:46 PM EST
What should be a cascades often result in an ineffective dribble
@JonScott46
@DSGhataura
@hrogerson
@ViciaScience
@tguskey
#asechat
In reply to @JonScott46, @DSGhataura, @hrogerson, @ViciaScience, @tguskey
MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:46 PM EST
Is there a need for schools to have CPD leads? Are they effective where they exist?
#ASEChat
TJohns85
Feb 13 @ 3:46 PM EST
@MrKeyseScience
@rlinskill
would you like to write a short guest blog on your
#s4s17
#science
workshops?
#ASEChat
In reply to @MrKeyseScience, @rlinskill
TJohns85
Jan 31 @ 12:11 PM EST
I'mstill interested in guest bloggers to write about aT&L idea such as this from
@rondelle10_b
#ukedchat
-contact me
https://t.co/vpQR9pI16L
In reply to @rondelle10_b
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
#asechat
Agree with this. Time in subject teams to discuss successful strategies is highly prized by depts.
In reply to @stuartphysics, @DSGhataura
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
Only to agree fair distribution of resources, not to take on CPD role themselves!
#ASEChat
In reply to @MarcNeesam
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
What should be a cascade often result in an ineffective dribble
@JonScott46
@DSGhataura
@hrogerson
@ViciaScience
@tguskey
#asechat
In reply to @JonScott46, @DSGhataura, @hrogerson, @ViciaScience, @tguskey
mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
I would love to try this.Have you shared your films anywhere?Do you put on pupil/staff intranet?
#ASEChat
In reply to @hrogerson, @TeachitScience
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
Do you notice that there are certain people who are a fantastic influence for starting conversations on practice?
#asechat
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM EST
#asechat
should be part of SLT to ensure it has power to effect change.
@TeacherToolkit
's work is a valuable example
In reply to @MarcNeesam, @TeacherToolkit
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:48 PM EST
#asechat
mine are on youtube. helenrogerson80. They are of varying quality depending on the time I have to create them.
In reply to @mrsjmclark
NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:48 PM EST
Anyone planned for London?
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @theASE
NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:48 PM EST
Sharing good practices with related subjects e.g maths.
#ASEChat
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:49 PM EST
Too many school INSET days wasted on generic issues when more focused departmental working would have impact
@dave2004b
@DSGhataura
#asechat
In reply to @dave2004b, @DSGhataura
mrsjmclark
Feb 13 @ 3:49 PM EST
great - thank you so much, I will use yours to guide me!
#ASEChat
In reply to @hrogerson
ashl3ylaw
Feb 13 @ 3:49 PM EST
this is on my list of something to try also
#asechat
but haven’t had time to organise anything yet!
In reply to @hrogerson, @mrsjmclark
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:49 PM EST
Join us at our Teachmeet in Bristol next week
https://t.co/XG43TaWhdb
#ASEChat
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:50 PM EST
https://t.co/A35r7ugRwX
< we're having a teachmeet in Bristol next week.
#asechat
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:50 PM EST
20th May for London regional conference. Other events before then
https://t.co/9mBn7G6JIR
#ASEChat
In reply to @NgeeOg, @theASE
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:50 PM EST
#asechat
Strong middle leadership important on making this case to SLT.
In reply to @stuartphysics, @DSGhataura
ZoeAndrewsAST
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
CPD focus this year is sub spec issue identified by ind teacher to make them even better.
#asechat
In reply to @stuartphysics, @dave2004b, @DSGhataura
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
Important that departmental based CPD is properly managed and structured with clear aims too
@DSGhataura
@dave2004b
#asechat
In reply to @DSGhataura, @dave2004b
ZoeAndrewsAST
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
at end of year all projects shared in T&L journal for all staff
#asechat
In reply to @stuartphysics, @dave2004b, @DSGhataura
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
Do consider
https://t.co/UOOSuC5jcI
If school will let you out and pay?
#asechat
@ViciaScience
@theASE
In reply to @NgeeOg, @ViciaScience, @theASE
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
Definitely
@dave2004b
@DSGhataura
#asechat
In reply to @dave2004b, @DSGhataura
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:52 PM EST
Some things cascade, e.g. CPAC? Others do not, e.g. dialogic approaches
#ASEChat
In reply to @DSGhataura, @stuartphysics, @JonScott46, @hrogerson, @tguskey
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:52 PM EST
https://t.co/UOOSuC5jcI
<< really enjoyed this conference because evening meal allowed time to discuss ideas from the day.
#asechat
MarcNeesam
Feb 13 @ 3:52 PM EST
Hard for CPD to support long term development amid system changes and immediate needs of school
#ASEChat
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:53 PM EST
There should be responsibility of the individual as well as dept for professional development
#ASEChat
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:51 PM EST
Important that departmental based CPD is properly managed and structured with clear aims too
@DSGhataura
@dave2004b
#asechat
In reply to @DSGhataura, @dave2004b
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:53 PM EST
#asechat
Time given next year to embed the new practice??
In reply to @ZoeAndrewsAST, @stuartphysics, @DSGhataura
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:53 PM EST
https://t.co/0FXFu105E3
@theASE events can be found on the website here.
#asechat
In reply to @theASE
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM EST
Last 8 minutes... what is your 'go to' place to learn new ideas for your practice?
#asechat
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM EST
Social interation time is very important for conferences. Need to avoid pressure to fit too many sessions in
@hrogerson
#asechat
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM EST
Judgement called for to put needs of pupils before needs of school sometimes
#ASEChat
In reply to @MarcNeesam
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:55 PM EST
I do worry that teachers 'failing' their PM will turn them off wanting to get better. Why bother if you aren't seeing the £ reward?
#asechat
ZoeAndrewsAST
Feb 13 @ 3:55 PM EST
Yes and to share, discuss, reflect. Subject team time very important to grow together.
#asechat
In reply to @dave2004b, @stuartphysics, @DSGhataura
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:55 PM EST
looking forward to lots of social time
@theASE
Scottish conference in a couple of weeks!
#whiskey
#ASEChat
In reply to @theASE
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM EST
Social interation time is very important for conferences. Need to avoid pressure to fit too many sessions in
@hrogerson
#asechat
In reply to @hrogerson
JonScott46
Feb 13 @ 3:56 PM EST
Agree—also very focussed
#ASEChat
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:52 PM EST
https://t.co/UOOSuC5jcI
<< really enjoyed this conference because evening meal allowed time to discuss ideas from the day.
#asechat
stuartphysics
Feb 13 @ 3:56 PM EST
Very much so, and good PRD scheme should ensure it all fits together for benefit of individual, dept, school, pupils
@ViciaScience
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:56 PM EST
the first time you need a good hour to do it, but it's worth it.
#asechat
@mrsjmclark
In reply to @ashl3ylaw, @mrsjmclark
tonicha128
Feb 13 @ 3:56 PM EST
#ASEChat
colleagues (in school and other schools), twitter, blogs
In reply to @hrogerson
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:57 PM EST
and I think we are up against twitter limitations here. How to take discussion deeper?
#ASEChat
In reply to @DSGhataura, @stuartphysics, @JonScott46
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:57 PM EST
#asechat
and then embedded into schemes of work etc?
In reply to @ZoeAndrewsAST, @stuartphysics, @DSGhataura
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:58 PM EST
Don't forget technician CPD. New technician since October. Resources from
@CLEAPSS
have been great.
#asechat
In reply to @CLEAPSS
NgeeOg
Feb 13 @ 3:58 PM EST
reflecting on practices. Mini evaluation
#ASEChat
In reply to @hrogerson
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:58 PM EST
Deep has to come to York in the summer!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @DSGhataura, @stuartphysics, @JonScott46
ViciaScience
Feb 13 @ 3:58 PM EST
Anyone got to BETT this year for ideas around good practice?
#ASEChat
DSGhataura
Feb 13 @ 3:59 PM EST
#asechat
In a sense we're looking for the holy grail of PD here. It seems like we know it so ...
In reply to @dave2004b, @ZoeAndrewsAST, @stuartphysics
dave2004b
Feb 13 @ 3:59 PM EST
#asechat
Depends how it is tracked by SLT, or whether middle leaders are given real ownership.
In reply to @DSGhataura, @ZoeAndrewsAST, @stuartphysics
DSGhataura
Feb 13 @ 3:59 PM EST
... what's stopping us?
#asechat
In reply to @dave2004b, @ZoeAndrewsAST, @stuartphysics
NeedhamL56
- Moderator
Feb 13 @ 3:59 PM EST
you can all come!
#ASEChat
@MaryUYSEG
will post details August Tweet Up
#sharedlunch
In reply to @MaryUYSEG
hrogerson
Feb 13 @ 3:58 PM EST
Deep has to come to York in the summer!
#asechat
In reply to @ViciaScience, @DSGhataura, @stuartphysics, @JonScott46