#sblchat Archive


Wednesday January 10, 2018
9:00 PM EST

  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Good evening and welcome to #sblchat! Our topic for tonight: The Challenge of the Change. Please start intros...(name, role, location)
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:00 PM EST
    Rik, a MA-based Facilitator of Learning with Math, welcomes you to our Standards-Based Learning & Grading discussion tonight! Be ready to be inspired and Challenged! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hello #sblchat! Katie, science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy 2018 everybody!!
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Joni Readout, Instructional Coach, Leon, Iowa #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    #sblchat Rick Wormeli, coming to you from home in Herndon, VA this evening!
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    There are many Challenges ahead to get ready for them and join #sblchat NOW!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Hi Rick! Thanks for joining us tonight. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Thrilled to connect with you, Katie! #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
      Hello #sblchat! Katie, science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy 2018 everybody!!
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:01 PM EST
    Chris, Science Teacher Vernon Hills High School. First #sblchat for me and excited to learn from you all!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    I'm Garnet, an author and speaker from the Chicagoland area. So glad to be back with my partners in crime @RoweRikW @KatieBudrow for #sblchat 2018!
  • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    John, MS principal in Mayville, WI. Challenge = opportunity! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Good evening Chris! #sblchat
    In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Glad you are here, Joni! #sblchat
    In reply to @MrsReadout
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Bridget - 6th Grade ELA teacher in Alpharetta, GA. #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Welcome, Chris! #sblchat
    In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    John, pleased to welcome you! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:02 PM EST
    Glad you could join us, Rick! #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2, @garnet_hillman
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hello! High School Social Studies Department Chair from Chicago suburb. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Bridget! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Hi Bridget! #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Pete Sullivan from suburban Chicago. Happy new year all! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Welcome Chris! You are just down the road from me. Glad you could join us! #sblchat
    In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Greetings, Jason! #sblchat
    • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
      Hello! High School Social Studies Department Chair from Chicago suburb. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:03 PM EST
    Always pleased to welcome you, Pete! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Like this tweet if you're new to #sblchat so we can welcome you to our collaboration on Standards-Based Learning & Grading.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Hi Pete! Hope you and yours had a happy holiday. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Brandon, science teacher from Illinois! Looking forward to seeing what ideas this chat brings. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Welcome John! Happy you are here! #sblchat
    In reply to @JohnSchlender
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us Brandon! #sblchat
    In reply to @WattersEdu
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Brandon, we're pleased you joined us for #sblchat Tonight!
    • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
      Brandon, science teacher from Illinois! Looking forward to seeing what ideas this chat brings. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Glad you could join us, Bridget! #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:04 PM EST
    Julia Burns, middle school principal, joining from west central Illinois. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Jason! #sblchat
    In reply to @JasonJaffe
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Good evening Julia! #sblchat
    In reply to @jcbCupcake
  • TWT_StandeferKJ Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Kathy Standefer, first time... looking forward to it #sblchat
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Megan from Iowa - 8th ELA #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Welcome Kathy! #sblchat
    In reply to @TWT_StandeferKJ
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Please join me in helping to welcome Brandon {@WattersEdu} to #sblchat tonight!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Hi Megan! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganKnight85
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:05 PM EST
    Glad you could join us, Pete! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Kindly help me welcome Julia {@jcbCupcake} to tonight's #sblchat!
  • RESP3CTtheGAME Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Brian, HS ELA in WI. Processing end of semester grades tonight, with an eye on #sblchat #plrnchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Happy you are here, Brandon! #sblchat
    In reply to @WattersEdu
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Hi Brian! #sblchat
    In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    We have an eye on you, Brian! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Ken O’Connor, author/consultant tonight in White Rock, BC. Long day today as I flew here from Orlando. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    Thrilled to see you, Ken!! #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
      Ken O’Connor, author/consultant tonight in White Rock, BC. Long day today as I flew here from Orlando. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:06 PM EST
    We are glad you are spending part of it with us Ken! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Q1 Why is changing educational practice so difficult? #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Happy you are here, Julia! #sblchat
    In reply to @jcbCupcake
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    And we're off!! #sblchat
  • PegGrafwallner Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Peg, Instructional Coach/Reading Specialist, from MKE #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    And boy, I bet your arms are tired! :-) I may be too funny for #SBLchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Welcome Kathy! We are very happy you could join us! #sblchat
    In reply to @TWT_StandeferKJ
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Ian - educating in BCs snowy (almost a foot due overnight!!) shuswap - loving the midweek fire-up known as #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
    Nice to see you again, Peg! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hi Ian! #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 Change is difficult. When traditional practices are ingrained teachers can be fearful of trying something new. The key is to provide support whether it be an ear to listen, resources, or the time and space to process. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 - Status quo is often easy and comfortable. However, having an #InnovativeMindset and welcoming educational change can lead to Healthy Teaching, Learning, & Grading Practices. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    SNOW Kidding? #sblchat
    • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:07 PM EST
      Ian - educating in BCs snowy (almost a foot due overnight!!) shuswap - loving the midweek fire-up known as #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Hello Ken! :) #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Good evening Peg! #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Glad you could join us, Megan! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganKnight85
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    Having an #InnovatorsMindset is vital! #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
      A1 Change is difficult. When traditional practices are ingrained teachers can be fearful of trying something new. The key is to provide support whether it be an ear to listen, resources, or the time and space to process. #sblchat
  • PegGrafwallner Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1 While I'm all about change, just let me grab it and hold on. Our district "changes" so fast that it's hard to see if any of the initiatives actually work. Frustrating #sblchat
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:08 PM EST
    A1: We are dealing with Ss grades and those grades are their only currency to get into good colleges. I always questions myself "What if this doesn't work or a waste of time" #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 Educators work so very hard to hone their craft. Suggesting a change implies something is wrong. Make sure to help everybody see the why behind progressing forward. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    I understand that! #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Hello Brian! Glad that you could join us, even if only for a little while! #sblchat
    In reply to @RESP3CTtheGAME
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 Educational change is hard because all stakeholders have long, personal histories with traditional practices in education and have seemingly come out fine. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    @mmineau Welcome Matt. A pleasure to see you in #sblchat tonight!
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 Because doing what you have always done is easier. #sblchat
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 if practice worked in the past (good enough for us....most of us? some of us?) it should be good enough for now...even though times have changed and we have learned so much more (about learning...the brain...etc) #sblchat
  • EtnyreSci Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Sorry I'm late! Shannon Etnyre, chemistry teacher from Vernon Hills IL. A1 "...because this is how it's always been done" #sblchat
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1. Some might say habit, but I disagree. I think great teachers have seen their practices help a lot of kids and worry that changing paths might not be in the best interest of students. #sblchat
  • mmineau Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    A1 We don’t know what we don’t know w/o proper vision mission plan resources & training #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
    Welcome Peg! #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    RT Q1 Why is changing educational practice so difficult? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Good evening Shannon! #sblchat
    In reply to @EtnyreSci
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Happy you are here, Ian! #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    One is never late to #sblchat...
    • EtnyreSci Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
      Sorry I'm late! Shannon Etnyre, chemistry teacher from Vernon Hills IL. A1 "...because this is how it's always been done" #sblchat
  • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 even if making the change is easy for us to make personally we are fighting against years of the “norm” of how it has been done. This is a hard current to swim against. #sblchat
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1: I think, for some, it is scary to do something that we didn't experience as Ss and it's what we know to be the "right" thing to do, so we continue because it worked for us - as far as we know. #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    Great response to why it is so difficult to change grading practices. We must let go of the ego. #sblchat
    • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:09 PM EST
      A lot of the difficulty in change is because of its immediate invocation of ego, and a general risk aversion we all build around ourselves. In order to accept new ideas, we have to first admit what we were doing was less effective than our ego thought it was.
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    A1 We have grown up being trained and observing educational practices which have deeply embedded those practices into our beliefs and comfort level. Unlearning is required before change. #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
    #sblchat A lot of the difficulty in change is because of its immediate invocation of ego, and a general risk aversion we all build around ourselves. In order to accept new ideas, we have to first admit what we were doing was less effective than our ego thought it was.
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Wow - between you and @rickwormeli2 all the jokes are being covered in tonight’s #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @rickwormeli2
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1: I think more people are scared of change than embrace it (the, “That wasn’t how I did it,” syndrome), and we who see need for change have to convince the wrld that change makes sense-my biggest frustrations come from people not agreeing suggestions of change #sblchat
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    A1 Educational change is hard because educators are passionate about what we do and why we do it. It's hard to challenge your own long held educational philosophies in which you so deeply believe. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    But worth it every stroke... #sblchat
    • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:10 PM EST
      A1 even if making the change is easy for us to make personally we are fighting against years of the “norm” of how it has been done. This is a hard current to swim against. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
    Totally true. Which is why I like talking about progress instead of change. #sblchat
    In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • Dale_Chu Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @garnet_hillman, @KatieBudrow & @RoweRikW moderating a thoughtful conversation on embracing change. Follow along at #sblchat!
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Profound... #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:11 PM EST
      Totally true. Which is why I like talking about progress instead of change. #sblchat
      In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1- Not just teachers worry about change. Board members, parents worry about changing a system that might appear to be working, worry about educators “experimenting” on something new with their kids. #sblchat
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    Change is difficult bc Ts do what was done to them & fear Ts will lose control/Ss will be ill prepared for the 'real world' #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: change means admitting we were wrong *gasp* #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    A1: Many parts to the challenge: fear of failure, institutional laxity, lack of innovative spirit, small or aborted thinking, poor or incompetent leadership, outside pressures/influences, and plain old laziness. #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
    I’ll jump in! Angela Newcomb. Principal outside of Louisville, KY. A1: Sadly, many teachers feel that the only power they can exert in the classroom is the grade they give the student. Just one of many reasons... #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    #sblchat It's interesting: I get people who send me manuscripts for their first attempts at published writing, and they are very put off when I edit their work, yet they are often teachers who edit their students work and ask them to receive the critiques constructively.
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Me too... #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Hi Angela, thanks for jumping in! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Yow. Good luck! We won't take points off if you leave early. :) #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    Ouch! #sblchat
    • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:12 PM EST
      I’ll jump in! Angela Newcomb. Principal outside of Louisville, KY. A1: Sadly, many teachers feel that the only power they can exert in the classroom is the grade they give the student. Just one of many reasons... #sblchat
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:13 PM EST
    A1 We educs care so much about our work. "Change" seems to imply something was wrong. We must change our mindset to growth instead. #sblchat
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    I love it #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    #sblchat I have found that teachers and principals who are used to being edited (they are frequent writers, musical performers, artists, scientists, etc) do not invoke self-protection and ego nearly as quickly when asked to change something they do.
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    A1: Change is scary because it takes us out of our comfort zone. What if it fails? I think if educators are give the time and tools they need, change may not be so scary. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
    Nice connection, Rick. #sblchat
    • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
      #sblchat I have found that teachers and principals who are used to being edited (they are frequent writers, musical performers, artists, scientists, etc) do not invoke self-protection and ego nearly as quickly when asked to change something they do.
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    A1: Past experiences when others have executed change from positions of power, with no rationale for the change. Change for change' sake. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    We must model it for our Learners... #sblchat
    • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:14 PM EST
      A1: Change is scary because it takes us out of our comfort zone. What if it fails? I think if educators are give the time and tools they need, change may not be so scary. #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:15 PM EST
    Sad that this is true. How many times do you hear that power trip? Once would be too many #makesmesad #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Q2 What is/was your biggest challenge with the change to standards based grading? #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Before I forget, I want to encourage everyone tonight to read Thomas Newkirk's phenomenal new book, Embarrassment. It has direct bearing on student AND teacher success (and tonight's topic). 'Probably one of the most pivotal books of the last five years. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Agreed. That passion is a pretty powerful thing too ... in a great way. #sblchat
    In reply to @JasonJaffe
  • Dale_Chu Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1: As the adage goes, old habits die hard (or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it). Hard to let go of what’s familiar and comfortable #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    There is no room for egos in learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    Never thought of it that way...as a former gymnast myself I had a lot of 'editing' growing up. I like it when people help me improve my writing! I guess I am very used to continual learning and revision. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 Change is also difficult bc it's tough to balance stakeholders' (perceived) needs with what research tells us is best for students; it's tough to know how far/fast to push the envelop, and communication takes time #sblchat
  • akh003 Jan 10 @ 9:16 PM EST
    A1 Ego is a massive factor. Acting as a learner before a teacher helps too.Yet, I firmly believe most teachers teach the way they were taught, unless they have made a mindful, conscientious effort to do otherwise #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 - Several years ago when I transitioned to Standards-Based Grading, I was cautious since I was the only one in my school at the time attempting the transition. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A2 With my transition the biggest challenge was changing my language in the classroom so that my kids would follow suit. I had to be very conscious of what I was saying to make sure I used a language of learning (rather than grading) all the time! #sblchat
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1: Also, system rewards uniformity. Teachers who are on the cutting edge are likely to face the harshest criticism. Can make it hard for others to want to get on board. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    A1 I ask that all the time. If a new medication comes out that’s better, physicians abandon the old one immediately and switch. Why don’t we abandon less effective ed practices in favor of ones with more promising evidence? #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #sblchat So, we need a culture of candor and support, where we feel less like we're vulnerable and more like we're growable.
    In reply to @jcbCupcake
  • KendraFGrant Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    #sblchat A1: In a split second our beliefs and assumptions filter what we "see" and "know". We're convinced that what we see and know is correct. It's only when we explore our A&B that things can change.
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
    Why in my daily-reflection-blog I’m willing to share some concerns about some of the changes I have made in what I’m doing (thematic day with Finnish schedule) https://t.co/AqQjAUWn5x #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2 For me, it was really getting to know my standards. It has taken years and something I revisit frequently! Actually, just analyzed a few again today. :) #sblchat
  • daveschmittou Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    2) fighting too many fights at once can kill any new strategy. I’ve learned to earn support strategically. Get others to weigh in and stop fighting for buy in. #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A1 Fear of public scrutiny. Are we trying to please parents and uninformed public or are we willing to make effective changes on behalf of the learners? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A@ Ensuring that it is done with fidelity so that it is effective and isn’t unfairly criticized to the extent that schools/districts return to (mostly) traditional grading. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    Bring it, Erin! #InnovatorsMindset #sblchat
    • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
      A1: Also, system rewards uniformity. Teachers who are on the cutting edge are likely to face the harshest criticism. Can make it hard for others to want to get on board. #sblchat
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
    A2: Ive not made the change but one fear is that Ss won't buy in bc it is not the norm they are used to. They just want an A. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    RT Q2 What is/was your biggest challenge with the change to standards based grading? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    It can be daunting to fly solo with this change! I was fortunate to have @j_ozbolt with me along the way. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @j_ozbolt
  • akh003 Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A1 Also, sometimes Ss do not want changes. They have made an effort to understand and work within a system that is familiar and they understand, they can be resistant too #sblchat
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2 I was implementing in a university system in which there is no possible way to report behavior. But I found a work around! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    Garnet, I was fortunate to meet YOU! #sblchat
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    agree #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    So sad, but so true. Teachers eat their own stars too often. #sblchat
    • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:17 PM EST
      A1: Also, system rewards uniformity. Teachers who are on the cutting edge are likely to face the harshest criticism. Can make it hard for others to want to get on board. #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
    A2: deciding how far to push the envelope. With district requirements on ‘like’ grading across collaborative planning team, minimum requirements for summatives/formatives (yeah, really), and Grade policies, I spend a lot of thinking time on how to get around the rules #sblchat
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 Biggest challenge right now to full blown SBG fidelity is not having the technical capacity due to district adopted gradebook/reporting. But the SBL mindset is more important than its technical execution. #sblchat
  • BenBo370 Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Okay, time for an admission: When I had a piece published (in a book!) two years ago, I had to be edited. The editor was gentle, but it was still tough being on the receiving end of "the red pen." I highly recommend this for EVERY teacher. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2: Agree with those saying analyzing standards, but also in created valid assessments that measure student mastery of the standards with scales for scoring the work. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    Very much so. Especially those students that have gotten really good at playing the game of school. #sblchat
    In reply to @akh003
  • JMcCarthyEdS Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1) fear of the unknown or simply “comfortable” with the status quo. We all can fail to @see” growth opportunities. That can be the hardest change. #sblchat @220858Agatha #edu5720
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @see, @220858Agatha
  • TWT_StandeferKJ Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A2 getting everyone to listen and learn from each other. Understanding the anxiety and being patient as they work through the process of improving and growing. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:20 PM EST
    A1: ALSO, I’ll say I’ve worked with many teachers who have put heart & soul into #sbg & sometimes it can get complex- especially at the HS level. Ex. ELA teachers often assess all of their stds simultaneously. What does that look like in a grade book? 😬 #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    What was your work around? #sblchat
    • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:19 PM EST
      A2 I was implementing in a university system in which there is no possible way to report behavior. But I found a work around! #sblchat
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 having the consistent question: what will the universities and colleges say? (My oldest is revising the efolio her engineering programs are interested in and more Us are looking at interviews to see if Ss are a “good fit” beyond memorizing for tests #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    May we encourage you. Our Learners are thankful every day for our learning that is a result of a Standards-Based approach! #sblchat
    • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:18 PM EST
      A2: Ive not made the change but one fear is that Ss won't buy in bc it is not the norm they are used to. They just want an A. #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2: Defining mastery with Ss who (not of their own fault) conflated high grades with deep learning. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Hooray! I’ll be there on the Sunday night and Monday of #empower18 #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    Yes, there's a lot of fragility, perpetuated by our system, and a general sense that, "I only have value to the adults in my life based on my test score," and other external validation issues. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    “Because that’s not how I was taught.” How do we change that mindset? #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    🙌🙌🙌 #sblchat
    • Jeff_Zoul Jan 10 @ 8:53 AM EST
      Why is it okay to have students redo courses they fail, but not okay to have them redo assignments and assessments that they fail? #sblchat
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
    A2 Biggest challenge with SBG: communication with Ps that balances listening to their needs and pushing the envelope with what I know is better for Ss; also the time it takes to create a mindset shift in Ss, although it's worth the wait! #sblchat
  • akh003 Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2 Disconnect from traditional grades and often I’ll-fitting attempts to cobble them together somehow #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2. We had nearly complete buy in for the WHY but many challenges with the what and how? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    I agree but it shouldn’t be the case because there are programs out there that can do SBG well. #sblchat
    In reply to @JasonJaffe
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    And Ben, you just gave dozens, if not hundreds, of educators license, encouragement, and permission to do just that -- Thank you for that gift. #sblchat
    In reply to @BenBo370
  • BrysonBridget Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
    A2.2 discussing with team peers who feel that extensive formative assignments (that I believe should be ungraded) should be ‘valued’ - I.e. graded, to ‘reward’ the work. I struggle with the concept of rewarding by grade #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    It's a start, John... #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:22 PM EST
      A2. We had nearly complete buy in for the WHY but many challenges with the what and how? #sblchat
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 Soo many challenges. One is Time. When do teams get together to create and analyze skills, create learning pathways/proficiency scales, redesign lessons promoting S Choice. Soo worth it, though. #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Perhaps colleges/unis can employ multiple measures for assessing readiness levels of Ss. Without solely relying on standardized test scores. #sblchat
    • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:21 PM EST
      A2 having the consistent question: what will the universities and colleges say? (My oldest is revising the efolio her engineering programs are interested in and more Us are looking at interviews to see if Ss are a “good fit” beyond memorizing for tests #sblchat
  • PegGrafwallner Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Hi Lee Ann, I will be presenting on Sunday and flying out on Monday. Perhaps a connection Sunday evening? Let's keep in touch! #ascdempower18 #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: One of the biggest challenges is actually reaching consensus on where the lines are. Which performance actually meets the standard? Which is close but Not Yet? #sblchat
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    Yep - done many “examples” of giving students a letter or number vs descriptive feedback....eventually the descriptive feedback loop kicks in and the learning becomes more important than the “sticker” that shows learning is done... #sblchat
    In reply to @wolfsciedu
  • mmineau Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2 Moving from the convo to the “how” embracing the learning while being vulnerable during the process #sblchat
  • GrantMinkhorst Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2- Have a look at Ontario’s Assessment and Evaluation policy, Growing Success. Grading is based on learning goals derived from curriculum expectations with focus on professional judgement #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:23 PM EST
    A2: As a teacher, getting it to work with our silly grading scale and Infinite Campus grade book. 🙄 As an admin, helping teachers with those things (especially those out of my content areas), and getting naysayers to buy-in. #sblchat
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    Ss had to be recommended certification after finishing courses. We rated on dispositions as part of that process. I told Ss that although I didn’t penalize their achievement grade in 4 punctuality/attendance, I’d consider both in their ratings 4 certification. Worked! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:24 PM EST
    And some really great teachers are in systems where they feel raising those test scores is all that is valued. Too many school cultures uniquely punish the best educators they have with philosophies which are not student-centered. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Q3 What would be your first step to calm a colleague who is fearful of a change to standards based grading? #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    So true! #sblchat This is not a skill often taught in schools of teacher education or to in-service teachers, yet it's so vital to SBG success.
    In reply to @ErinKMcGurk
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    If you are going to give students effective feedback you have to be able to communicate about standards separately. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Those are such essential (but sometimes tough) conversations. What is our common understanding of the standard? What evidence elicits each proficiency level? #sblchat
    In reply to @ErinKMcGurk
  • technolandy Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    #sblchat
    In reply to @dbuckedu
  • AggieSalterITS Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    Wow love this #sblchat
    In reply to @GrantMinkhorst
  • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
    I would rather do the right work with room for improvement than do the wrong work perfectly. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 - A first step could be to educate others to the benefits of Standards-Based Learning & Grading. Once I became more knowledgeable, I dove in the deep end FOR Learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 First step - I would ask them to talk about what is making them feel anxious and LISTEN. #sblchat
  • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2 my biggest concern is being able to give meaningful feedback to each student consistently and building in time to correct. #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A2: Also as an admin, having patience. @mikemattos65 once told me to hold off on #sbg until we have strong PLC/RTI in place. He’s right. Strong systems are critical, but then think about the senior failing a class because of HW. He doesn’t have time for teacher buy-in. #sblchat
  • PegGrafwallner Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
    A3 In truth, SBG has not worked at our school because it has been modified/revised from authentic SBG to fit a grading policy that fits with our district's perspective. I have yet to see SBG work authentically. Sad, isn't it? #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 The transition is a lot of work, but it is worth is! Wait until you see what students can do. How can I help you get started? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    Our Learners and colleagues need to model and accept this daily. #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Jan 10 @ 9:25 PM EST
      I would rather do the right work with room for improvement than do the wrong work perfectly. #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    @wolfsciedu The initial change can be daunting to students but once they trust the new evaluation system, they thrive! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @wolfsciedu
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    It does help to do some of it online... #sblchat
    • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:26 PM EST
      A2 my biggest concern is being able to give meaningful feedback to each student consistently and building in time to correct. #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    #sblchat Ask the initially concerned colleague to consider what they want for the students in their classes. Usually they'll say, "to learn the material well, and to grow personally." Agree, too, that grades should be accurate, evidence based. Start with what you have in common.
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    "A summative score is based on formative scores collected throughout a unit rather than a single final assessment.” NO, formative assessment should be NO score, comment only. #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    A3 our job is to find the better way for our ss to learn and b successful...#sblchat change ur classroom to a culture where f learning not grading it will b rewording to u and ur ss
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
    So true, Kelly! #sblchat
    • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
      @wolfsciedu The initial change can be daunting to students but once they trust the new evaluation system, they thrive! #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW, @wolfsciedu
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    RT Q3 What would be your first step to calm a colleague who is fearful of a change to standards based grading? #sblchat
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2: I have had parents and board members complain that standards-based is not real world. Oh, but it is. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    That's a hard one. I had the good sense to listen to my students when I first started ... they suggested conferencing. One of the best things in my room now. #sblchat
    In reply to @WattersEdu
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A2 Another concern I can't shake is the ways in which social studies AP classes aren't exactly congruent with best practices for standards/skills etc over content. Looking for resources to support my AP teachers wanting SBL w/o sacrificing good AP test prep. #sblchat
  • TWT_StandeferKJ Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3 Encourage them to share their understanding of the system and share their fears. Only them can you tackle misconceptions and fears. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3: Let the Ss make the argument -- show the colleague Ss reflections or responses to the focus on deep learning rather than on meaningless grades. #sblchat
  • Fridays85 Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    A3 Ask some questions and hook them up with this chat #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    You have an incredible #sblchat Crew to support you!
    • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:27 PM EST
      I believe you. I just need to take that leap...
      In reply to @koliver555, @RoweRikW
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
    There's no moving forward together if we don't find common ground first. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    #sblchat Additionally, we can give testimony from our own experience with hesitations and concerns, and what happened when we gave some of the ideas a chance. We can also invite them to try just one, two, or three elements in the first year, not everything.
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Andrew Maxey, “an educator with clear and strong opinions about educational practice” (as I was called this week), jumping into #sblchat late to join the convo the clarify and strengthen my knowledge about grading practices.
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    Yes, logistics are many. Change is hard. Agreement is a challenge. This chat keeps me motivated. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    @jmccarthyeds - I love this forum #sblchat
  • mmineau Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    A3 lead w empathy & compassion listen & coach up #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
    You have this right! Student testimony is one of the most compelling arguments for SBG implementation! #sblchat
    In reply to @dbuckedu
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Help Ss use Bloom's taxonomy Graphic by @WCPSS #edchat #sblchat #tg2chat #teachlap
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    That is the good part but there are lots of deep flaws in Growing Success. I hope some of them will be eliminated as a result of the review due March. #sblchat
    In reply to @GrantMinkhorst
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:30 PM EST
    Couldn't agree more. My students were the best advocates for the change to SBG! #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2, @dbuckedu
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A2: I also struggle with weeding through all the content to get the a bigger standard. What is truly important for them to know. #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    And their responses are great motivation to continue the good fight! #sblchat
    • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:29 PM EST
      You have this right! Student testimony is one of the most compelling arguments for SBG implementation! #sblchat
      In reply to @dbuckedu
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    #sblchat Good point, Jason. IB programs have a much more robust and sound assessment policy and practice than does the College Board AP course system. The College Board wants AP tchrs to practice good assessment and reporting, but they don't always support it w/resources.
    In reply to @JasonJaffe
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    A3: This should depend on the one who is fearful. Do they need logic, emotion, data, or something else. All of the above and more is there; response should be responsive to the nature of the anxiety #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
    With Standards-Based Learning & Grading, the grades become more meaningful. Not everyone is ready to handle the thought of that. #sblchat
    • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:28 PM EST
      A2: I have had parents and board members complain that standards-based is not real world. Oh, but it is. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3 Explain the why - and why it is better for students, and thus for teachers. #sblchat
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    A3: Start off small and change 1 class. Realize that it’s a work in progress. When you add the 2nd class, you’ll know what changes need to be made. #sblchat
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:32 PM EST
    Just ask any school secretary if Ts have ever been given extensions on deadlines for paperwork! :) Or ask any principal if Ts have ever been allowed to 'revise' a lesson before giving again. Even as Ts, we are given opportunities we fear with SBG #sblchat
    In reply to @jcbCupcake
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    We're here to support you through your transition. Accept the fact that the Change will be met with Challenges. #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:31 PM EST
      I want to jump in too, but in HS ELA, I decided to shift to a workshop model with feedback I first. Once I work out those challenges, I think I’ll be more prepared to go to #sbg; I needed to re-frame my teaching and more fully align my assessments first
      In reply to @wolfsciedu, @koliver555, @RoweRikW
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    A3: It's powerful to see an actual assessment with standards-based feedback/ratings vs. another with a single summative grade. Which would help the student know what to work on? Which would help YOU as a teacher know specifically how to support the student? #sblchat
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
    Hey #sblchat leaders! Greg- K, MD. Jumping in late after an awesome #KidsDeserveIt collaboration. Hope all are well.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Q4 When you are challenged to provide support for the change to standards based grading, what are your go to resources? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Good evening Greg! #sblchat
    In reply to @jazzmeister2013
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I think these conversations sometimes become battles between opposing camps rather than a chance for genuine dialogue and shared understanding. A sincere commitment to finding commin ground is key. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @rickwormeli2
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Truth! Revisiting skills and how students acquire these skills makes for powerful conversations! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    Thank YOU! #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:33 PM EST
      The shift to more meaningful grades is so important. It’s not about passing it raising a grade or getting by, it will be about learning and developing
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • JDuenas24 Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    I see the #sblchat hashtag but can't find who is sourcing the Qs....can someone tag them please and gracias!
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
    A3: I would share my personal experience with it. LESS grading, MORE understanding of student learning, STRONGER instruction, BETTER communication with parents & kids, and most importantly, GREATER and ENSURED student success!!! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 - The main resource for Standards-Based Learning & Grading is our #sblchat PLN. These dedicated educators seek the highest learning for our Students day in and day out.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    A4 A few favorite books: How to Grade for Learning by @kenoc7, Fair Isn’t Always Equal by @rickwormeli2, Grading From the Inside Out by @tomschimmer, and On Your Mark by @tguskey #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I am tweeting the questions! #sblchat
    In reply to @JDuenas24, @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    I have worked hard many times to make the case that SBL gets grades to do what they actually should do - it results in marking & grading that is more honest & pure. That outcome is what students deserve #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    Welcome Jessica. @garnet_hillman is sending our questions. #sblchat
    • JDuenas24 Jan 10 @ 9:34 PM EST
      I see the #sblchat hashtag but can't find who is sourcing the Qs....can someone tag them please and gracias!
      In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
    That's a great first step! Before grading practices can change, curriculum, assessments, and instruction must first be aligned with standards. The workshop model will begin shifting the mindset to learning over evaluation. #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @wolfsciedu, @koliver555, @RoweRikW
  • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    A4 I also recommend taking a look at #sblchat and our Standards Based Learning and Grading facebook page https://t.co/dA5h29Ll5I. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    #MicDrop #sblchat
    • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:35 PM EST
      That's a great first step! Before grading practices can change, curriculum, assessments, and instruction must first be aligned with standards. The workshop model will begin shifting the mindset to learning over evaluation. #sblchat
      In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @wolfsciedu, @koliver555, @RoweRikW
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
    These are so important, Angela. Thank you. You made me remember, too, that in schools in which faculty have a strong background in how the minds learns, cognitive science, SBG is embraced far more readily, than in those schls without such professional knowledge. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4: For resources and expertise, my first stop is always @rickwormeli2 #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    RT Q4 When you are challenged to provide support for the change to standards based grading, what are your go to resources? #sblchat
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Certainly provides a more focused analysis on Ss performance. Moves from generic to specific. Powerful feedback. #sblchat
    In reply to @ezigbo_
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Have you yet read "Power Standards" by @AinsworthLarry? #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
      Thanks! Trialing some #sbl with an independent study course I’m overseeing at the college level with a teacher getting her SpEd cert. I’ve got our learning targets, some planned measures, and discussions and feedback to trial some #sbg
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • PegGrafwallner Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    Signing off, everyone. Thank you for a wonderful evening of chats. I haven't had a chance to hang out w/ my twitter pals for a long time. This felt great. Thank you again! #shelfietalk #kidsdeserveit #sblchat #BeTheOne
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:37 PM EST
    A4 Sometimes the best resources are the people willing to admit the mistakes, setbacks and challenges they had in adopting new practices. Unadulterated cheerleading can come across as insincere or out of touch. We must also hear the bad w/ the good. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Thanks Peg! #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: @rickwormeli2 videos, articles, books, also @mctownsley list of resources #sblchat
  • Dale_Chu Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    A4: The smart folks on this chat would be a good start! 😉 #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    I would also add that schos in which large portions of the faculty participate in the larger, regional/national associations in their subject areas often embrace SBG sooner and more successfully than faculties w/limited numbers of tchrs who participate in those groups. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
    Yes, yes. If you aren’t part of the Standards-Based Learning and Grading Facebook group please join today. @garnet_hillman and I will approve you!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @garnet_hillman
  • mmineau Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4 @TomSchimmer Grading from Inside Out #sblchat
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4: Favorite books I’ve read recently are Grading from the Inside Out by @TomSchimmer and Shift This by @JoyKirr #sblchat
  • TWT_StandeferKJ Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4 research surrounding districts, internet, colleagues and the professional books. Specifically, looking for electronic versions and implementation. Summit was suggested and very promising. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    A4. Looking forward to updated edition of Fair Isnt Always Equal by @rickwormeli2 and upcoming publications by @garnet_hillman!!! #sblchat
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    All outstanding. I also recommend @mctownsley ‘s webpage where he curates SBL resources - books, articles, etc. https://t.co/HRLmzuWtrM #sblchat
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:39 PM EST
    On Your Mark by @tguskey has really helped increase understanding of hte flaws in the current system. Read by BOE members, administrators, teachers. #sblchat
  • datiepriest Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    #sblchat Greetings and Happy New Year to all...Datie from AL.
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4 In addition to the ones mentioned, Sue Brookhart’s work in rubrics. #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Thanks, David, but for me, it's been @tguskey @mctownsley @DouglasReeves @jaymctighe @robertjmarzano @SusanBrookhart @cooperd1954 @dylanwiliam @kenoc @leeannjung among others. #sblchat
    In reply to @dbuckedu, @tguskey, @mctownsley, @DouglasReeves, @jaymctighe, @robertjmarzano, @SusanBrookhart, @cooperd1954, @dylanwiliam, @KenoC, @leeannjung
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Hi Datie! #sblchat
    In reply to @datiepriest
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    Datie, it's always a pleasure to welcome you! #sblchat
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:40 PM EST
    A4: On Your Mark by @tguskey has really helped increase understanding of the flaws in the current system. Read by BOE members, administrators, teachers. #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    A4: Perhaps a national speakers bureau needed for SBG and learning promotion. Community colleges a fertile ground for this change in learning assessment! #sblchat
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    Hmm. This is VERY interesting. Do you have any theories on why this is so? #sblchat
    • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:38 PM EST
      I would also add that schos in which large portions of the faculty participate in the larger, regional/national associations in their subject areas often embrace SBG sooner and more successfully than faculties w/limited numbers of tchrs who participate in those groups. #sblchat
      In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
    I think that issue of EL has an article by @rickwormeli2 and @kenoc7!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganKnight85, @garnet_hillman, @rickwormeli2, @TomSchimmer, @tguskey, @leeannjung, @rickwormeli2, @kenoc7
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    Great Man and Great Read! #HereForYou #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:41 PM EST
      And.... purchased!
      In reply to @RoweRikW, @AinsworthLarry
  • mctownsley Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A4) https://t.co/9GTJ6uURKJ for all things SBG scholarly literature. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    That is not required by sbg. #sblchat
    In reply to @PegGrafwallner, @mctownsley, @CVULearns
  • JDuenas24 Jan 10 @ 9:42 PM EST
    A2: As a #SpecialEducation T, standards based grading truly puts into perspective where those Ss are. They grew up with As for effort...but suddenly the effort doesn't count if they don't get it. Pushes sped Ts to truly innovate to give Ss true access to content. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
    Thank you, @rickwormeli2! The conceptual framework for #sbg doesn’t have to be complex if we focus on the big picture and keep the end in mind! Share successes and be hedgehogs! #sblchat #level5leadership
    • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:36 PM EST
      These are so important, Angela. Thank you. You made me remember, too, that in schools in which faculty have a strong background in how the minds learns, cognitive science, SBG is embraced far more readily, than in those schls without such professional knowledge. #sblchat
      In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 - Traditional letter grades are often clouded by Extra Credit, bonus points, deductions from 'late learning', and 'Kleenex' points. Please #STOPIT with all these. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A5 Standards based grading isn’t just a change from letters to numbers. The symbol isn’t the important part, rather being criterion referenced, evidence based, and secure in the separation of academic achievement, behaviors, and growth. #sblchat
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4 So many resources: Wormeli's videos are beyond compelling. Marzano, O'Connor, teacher testimonies, and the piece de resistance... student testimony. #sblchat
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    @AgathaMensah123. As educators, we need positive change. #sblchat
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    When I first starting teaching PK a number of years ago, the grading was done based on a set of standards. It was the most comprehensive, thorough, authentic evaluation of Ss performance. However, a far more generic grading system has been used in the years since. #sblchat
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:44 PM EST
    A4: Also https://t.co/asyYePuUkh has great resources, including letters of support from colleges pledging that #sbg transcripts won't hurt college admission. Important to share with parents who are concerned. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 Personally, I don't care if we have grades, levels, symbols, or flying panda bears. What matters most is a culture that focuses on learning. With that, anything is possible. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 - Our Standard-Based letter grades are based solely on the proficiency level demonstrated by our Learners. There is nothing to muddy their grades. Keep grades meaningful! #sblchat
  • GrantMinkhorst Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A4 - I really like Making Classroom Assessment Work by @Anne_DaviesPhD #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 The subject letter grades are kept for external reasons; the grades for standards provides a useful profile of student’s strengths and areas for improvement for internal use. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5: just bc letter grades may still exist in your district, #sbg gets us there in a different, more meaningful way. Ss can chase points less and focus o learning and progress more #sblchat
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Reinforces the need for P/T/S communication. Grades on the report card don’t necessarily paint the clear picture. #sblchat
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Because it it important that those grades be as accurate as they can possibly be. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • Fridays85 Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A5 I would say that what matters most is how the letter grade was determined...averaging :( standards :) #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    I want flying panda bears! :) #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • CVULearns Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    While it is by no means easy, it is certainly worth it. Here is a blog we wrote a few years back about the challenges and struggle...guessing it might ring true. #sblchat https://t.co/7FJQT0BtWo
    In reply to @mctownsley, @PegGrafwallner, @kenoc7
  • BradMockabee Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    A1: Because we all interned in our own profession since Kindergarten. School worked for us, so we resist change. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:45 PM EST
    Who doesn't? #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    RT Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: Letters mean nothing in life after school. They serve are a means to an end. Your boss won't care you got an A in biology! They will care what you can do with what you know. #sblchat
  • kc37 Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    #sblchat Tracking standards has been proven to be more effective in diagnosing specific areas for intervention and support.
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    A5: SBG accurately portrays Ss specific abilities, when you drill down into the standards, passed just the letter grade, instead of traditional grades that show arbitrary numbers associated with random assign. and possibly attendance, behavior and buying supplies. #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
    And it actually allows us to progress monitor standards-based IEP goals in a far more effective and classroom-embedded way #sblchat
    In reply to @JDuenas24
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5 The symbol and the assessment practices are two totally different issues. #sblchat
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5: This seems like the easy part - grades don’t do what they are designed to do. They are symbols that have lost their meaning and/or are a grossly insufficient method of communication. #sblchat
  • JasonJaffe Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    A5 The change to SBG is important because it better communicates to students what is needed in order to achieve those respective letter grades. It is the expectations, processes, assessments and feedback which become clearer. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Kevin, welcome to #sblchat tonight!
    • kc37 Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
      #sblchat Tracking standards has been proven to be more effective in diagnosing specific areas for intervention and support.
      • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
        Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Jan 10 @ 9:47 PM EST
    Love all of these plus @myrondueck grading smarter not harder #sblchat @DouglasReeves has great videos also
    In reply to @ezigbo_, @mctownsley, @myrondueck, @DouglasReeves
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5: The system seems to possess a stranglehold over the gains made by SBG implementation. This is the same system that will greet Ss when they enter college. Change in K-12 must extend to higher ed! #sblchat
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5: Because of eligibility, letter grades aren’t going away for me. I encourage my teachers to only score assessments and take a hybrid approach. No homework grades. No extra credit. Each assessment may have 4 or 5 “grades” #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    Nicholas, keep you eye on #udlchat (Universal Design for Learning) as well as #sblchat (Standards-Based Learning & Grading).
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:46 PM EST
      And it actually allows us to progress monitor standards-based IEP goals in a far more effective and classroom-embedded way #sblchat
      In reply to @JDuenas24
  • WattersEdu Jan 10 @ 9:48 PM EST
    A5 most jobs have their employees rated by standards when evaluated. Especially teachers. I can’t remember the last time I got an 85% on my evaluation! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    There is lots of change happening in higher ed. E.G. MIT and Wellesley. #sblchat
    In reply to @dbuckedu
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    #sblchat Such schools have an elevated professionalism, wanting to reflect modern pedagogical practice in their own efforts. 'Also see emphasis on SBG & similar topics at these national conf's, and while attending, 'can have thoughtful conversations/sharing w/out local politics.
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Absolutely! #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @JDuenas24
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
    Assessment practices are always an interesting conversation. Systemic over reliance on assessment, often for the sake of assessing w/o clear focus/purpose can seemingly devalue authentic, real and relevant assessment that can help pinpoint needs and show growth. #sblchat
    In reply to @leeannjung
  • claremw Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Change is difficult if I am not self reflective. I must challenge my thinking about what I say I believe about learning and teaching and what I do. There's an Indonesian saying, "Learning from a teacher who has stopped learning is like drinking from a stagnant pond." #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5 SBG is more than a grading reform--it's an education reform; SBG improves teaching and learning by communicating more meaningfully and focusing on growth over evaluation #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5: The Grade is irrelevant. #sbg is about mastery of standards. You could communicate that with a color, picture, emoji, or whatever. We have to communicate where Ss are on individual concepts to know their true learning of the content, skills, and process. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
      Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • AggieSalterITS Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    A5 because it’s about creating a culture of learning and constant feedback & assessment...once u put a grade on an assessment the learning stops #sblchat
    In reply to @kc37
  • 220858Agatha Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    @AgathaMensah#EDU5720 I think grades on the report cards are the true picture of students performance. #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Yes -- would love to see more community colleges adopt SBG, especially considering their student populations. #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:49 PM EST
      There is lots of change happening in higher ed. E.G. MIT and Wellesley. #sblchat
      In reply to @dbuckedu
  • mctownsley Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Hey #sblchat - has your building or district started down the SBG path and since turned back? (In past 1 or 2 years) @MeganKnight85 & I would like to learn more!
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
    Absolutely necessary! What an important reminder. We are all in this together. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrPeteSullivan, @garnet_hillman, @rickwormeli2
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Isn’t why this chat is sbL not sbG?? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganKnight85
  • AggieSalterITS Jan 10 @ 9:51 PM EST
    Amen!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrAngelaNewcomb
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • ErinKMcGurk Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    #sblchat Another article describing how much momentum is growing around seeing letter grades as obsolete.
    • edutopia Jan 6 @ 7:18 AM EST
      Traditional A-F letter grades are under fire as schools look to modernize student assessment. Are letter grades obsolete? https://t.co/BGunXAA24e
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    Quakertown, PA; Montgomery County, MD. #sblchat
    In reply to @koliver555, @DrPeteSullivan, @garnet_hillman, @rickwormeli2
  • JDuenas24 Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    My apologies...allow me to introduce myself #jayz reference (#Brooklyngirl speaking) I'm Jessica Dueñas, teacher for all but specifically a #specialed teacher and 8th grade team leader in rural KY. #sblchat
  • koliver555 Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman I can't agree strongly enough. Standards based grading allows for student choice in texts, topics, ways to demonstrate learning, timing/pacing, and more. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 Standards based grading works at all levels. As the grade levels increase the focus on grades also increases. If our grades are going to clearly communicate achievement, being standards based is essential no matter what grade the student is in. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A6 - I teach Math at the secondary level and our Learners will be the first to tell you how Standards-Based Grading combined with a Culture of Feedback have been instrumental in their heightened learning. #sblchat #MHSLearns
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    A5 For my dissertation research, 6/7 participants said they would never return to TG because SBG "makes sense" for improving learning and communication... it's not about the letter, it's about the learning #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Welcome Jessica. #sblchat
    • JDuenas24 Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
      My apologies...allow me to introduce myself #jayz reference (#Brooklyngirl speaking) I'm Jessica Dueñas, teacher for all but specifically a #specialed teacher and 8th grade team leader in rural KY. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    Yes! Watch for this in March from ASCD (shameless plug) #sblchat
    In reply to @NAEmmanuele, @JDuenas24
  • ezigbo_ Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    In this age of boldly casting off paradigms and norms that we have lived with for CENTURIES, why can’t we let go of a grading system we have only had for decades? #sblchat
  • Dale_Chu Jan 10 @ 9:53 PM EST
    An #edu trifecta: #ohedchat, #sblchat, and #dtk12chat are all currently trending!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    RT Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A5: Also, when they come back with “the Grade is relevant in college,” tell them we can use outdated practices because higher-ed is behind. Ours kids will be better prepared. I can say that because I work in higher-ed as well. 😂😂😂 #sblchat
    • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      A5: The Grade is irrelevant. #sbg is about mastery of standards. You could communicate that with a color, picture, emoji, or whatever. We have to communicate where Ss are on individual concepts to know their true learning of the content, skills, and process. #sblchat
      • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:43 PM EST
        Q5 How could you respond to the idea that if letter grades are kept in the system, why is a change to standards based grading necessary? #sblchat
  • kc37 Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    #sblchat That would depend on the "someone" - Ts seem easier to convince than parents without a deliberate and thoughtful implementation plan, preferably inclusive of them instead of foisted upon them.
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
      Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
    A6 It is actually more necessary at the secondary level because at the secondary level they are high stakes. No one’s future was ever decided by elementary level grades. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
      Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Accurate perspective, Ken... #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      A6 It is actually more necessary at the secondary level because at the secondary level they are high stakes. No one’s future was ever decided by elementary level grades. #sblchat
      • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
        Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: One of the sad differences between ElEd and HS is how much more our younger kids love school. If SBL is working at the ElEd level, perhaps it can bring a sense of ownership and progress in our secondary students #sblchat
  • dbuckedu Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: Learning is a cognitive act that transcends age or grade level. Where there is a learner, there can be effective standards-based instruction. #sblchat
  • jazzmeister2013 Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Enjoyed the conversation tonight, #sblchat leaders! Have to step away. Have a great rest of your week on purpose! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    Thanks Greg! #sblchat
    In reply to @jazzmeister2013
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    #sblchat 'Wrote a piece countering the idea that we have to prep students for next year by re-creating next year's policies THIS year: We Have to Prepare Students for the Next Level, Don't We?: https://t.co/7X8yyjGYlB
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: My wife @MrsWolfD70 and I talk about this all the time. I don't understand why the change happens from elem school to high school. #sblchat
  • DrAngelaNewcomb Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
    A6: I would tell them what absolutely does NOT work. And that’s failing kids and letting them drop out of school, or passing them without making sure they have learned, and watching them underperform on assessments. Then I’d say, “Your turn...give me a better solution.” #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      RT Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • CVULearns Jan 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Absolutely...SBG alone does not improve student learning. #sblchat https://t.co/i7Pr1Ltso7
    In reply to @MeganKnight85
  • jcbCupcake Jan 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    A6: SBG is about showing what kids know. There is no age limit. I think that a hybrid approach may need to be taken in ms and hs for eligibility purposes, but it can still be done. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:56 PM EST
    Our secondary level Learners appreciate the retention that is resulting from our Standards-Based learning environment. #sblchat
    • NAEmmanuele Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
      A6: One of the sad differences between ElEd and HS is how much more our younger kids love school. If SBL is working at the ElEd level, perhaps it can bring a sense of ownership and progress in our secondary students #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks to everyone for a great kick off to 2018! See you all next week. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Always appreciative of my co-mods @RoweRikW and @KatieBudrow! #sblchat
  • DrPeteSullivan Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    I would add that ensuring that students have mastered anchor standards is so vital in high school. Assessment has to give accurate feedback on what they have learned—not if they are compliant. #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:54 PM EST
      A6 It is actually more necessary at the secondary level because at the secondary level they are high stakes. No one’s future was ever decided by elementary level grades. #sblchat
      • garnet_hillman - Moderator Jan 10 @ 9:52 PM EST
        Q6 How could you respond to someone who feels that standards based grading works at the elementary level, but not at the secondary level? #sblchat
  • MeganKnight85 Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    Thanks for reaching out, Matt! Please message one of us if you'd be interested in sharing your journey. :) #sblchat
    • mctownsley Jan 10 @ 9:50 PM EST
      Hey #sblchat - has your building or district started down the SBG path and since turned back? (In past 1 or 2 years) @MeganKnight85 & I would like to learn more!
  • leeannjung Jan 10 @ 9:57 PM EST
    A6 I’d say that’s where it matters most! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Wow, absolutely a great start to 2018. Thanks @garnet_hillman #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @garnet_hillman
  • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Thanks for the great chat. Is this a weekly one? Same time, same day? #sblchat
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    Ankeny schools to some degree, as well as some Dallas, TX area schools #SBLchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @koliver555, @DrPeteSullivan, @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:58 PM EST
    As a teacher at the secondary level, I'm trying to learn from Elementary Teachers to bring the learning alive! #sblchat
    • wolfsciedu Jan 10 @ 9:55 PM EST
      A6: My wife @MrsWolfD70 and I talk about this all the time. I don't understand why the change happens from elem school to high school. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks for kicking off 2018 with a great #sblchat everybody! Huge thanks to my co-mods, @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman! Have a great week everyone!
  • kenoc7 Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    I think Ankeny is mostly back on track. #sblchat
    In reply to @rickwormeli2, @koliver555, @DrPeteSullivan, @garnet_hillman
  • MrsReadout Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    @garnet_hillman Thank you for a great chat with your co-moderators! Always rejuvenated mid-week after this chat. #sblchat
  • _LisaCap Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Makes me think of how important it is involve parents in the shift from traditional grading. So many parents request these things. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • RoweRikW Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Garnet, so many folks in #sblchat each week have such appreciation for who you are and all you do.
  • rickwormeli2 Jan 10 @ 9:59 PM EST
    Thanks, Garnet, @RoweRikW @kenoc7 and everyone for a great conversation! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW, @kenoc7