#divergED Archive
Tuesday May 9, 2017
8:00 PM EDT
nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#divergED
! Please share your name and where you're from!
MrsMurat
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
The changing role of substitute Ts:
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#edulive
#ohio_mla
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participatechat
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
#divergED
will be in a Q/A format. Mark responses w/ A1...2...etc. This is a 30-min chat, so buckle in!
EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Mike from PA
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
This chat is chalk full of examples, actions, risk-taking, disruptive innovations,
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thinking...so bring it
megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hello! My name is Megan Van Kirk, and I am a Biology pre-service teacher from Pittsburgh, PA!
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi Mike. Great to see you!
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Mike from PA
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hi Chris! Great to be here!
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In reply to @WeberEducation
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Thanks for joining Megan!
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megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:01 PM EDT
Hello! My name is Megan Van Kirk, and I am a Biology pre-service teacher from Pittsburgh, PA!
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hello All! Danielle K teacher in AZ! Excited about tonight's topic!
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hi Danielle! How have you been?
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:02 PM EDT
Hello All! Danielle K teacher in AZ! Excited about tonight's topic!
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JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Jeremy, parent and more from Connecticut.
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Candice from TN
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi Jeremy. Glad you're here!
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JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Jeremy, parent and more from Connecticut.
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Hi all! Sounds like a great topic tonight!
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Amazingly well!! So glad I could make it! Tuesday's have become so packed! It always makes my day when I can be here!
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In reply to @WeberEducation
nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Welcome to the 3rd chat in the
#divergED
series "Is **** Good or Bad?" (Hint: It's not that simple.) Tonight: Is testing good or bad?
CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi All! Cori from SoCal
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi Candice. Thanks for stopping by
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi Cori. Where are you from in SoCal?
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Hi All! Cori from SoCal
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:04 PM EDT
Makes mine too
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:03 PM EDT
Amazingly well!! So glad I could make it! Tuesday's have become so packed! It always makes my day when I can be here!
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In reply to @WeberEducation
CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Ventura County
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In reply to @WeberEducation
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hear you are talking testing! Making my night - only wish I was kidding. Bring it!!!
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Oh yes, Jim Smith, Assessment and Data. MN
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Excellent!
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Ventura County
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In reply to @WeberEducation
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
We were hoping this topic would entice you to join!
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:05 PM EDT
Hear you are talking testing! Making my night - only wish I was kidding. Bring it!!!
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Oh yes, Jim Smith, Assessment and Data. MN
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:06 PM EDT
Q1 coming up in 1 minute...
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Bret chiming in from NE Texas!
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mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
John Miller, CAO of a PK-12 school just outside Charleston, SC
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Hey Bret from TX. Thanks for joining!
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Bret chiming in from NE Texas!
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Thanks for joining John!
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mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
John Miller, CAO of a PK-12 school just outside Charleston, SC
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NewkirkJerrica
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Hi all! Jerrica Newkirk tapping in from Chapman University! Excited to be here.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#divergED
! Please share your name and where you're from!
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1. Ensure assessment is duplicating data. Ensure that assessment is going to be used to guide learning. Assessment with purpose.
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Shorter feedback loops. Rather than waiting for the big test, lets assess at shorter intervals
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AdamBrownEDU
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1. Move towards Socratic thinking and demonstration of proficiency. Focus more on the journey towards learning.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
RTQ1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 Create options for showing what you know
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Hi Jessica! We're excited you're here!
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NewkirkJerrica
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
Hi all! Jerrica Newkirk tapping in from Chapman University! Excited to be here.
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#divergED
! Please share your name and where you're from!
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Good point! The shorter feedback loop, helps promote better use of the information.
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Shorter feedback loops. Rather than waiting for the big test, lets assess at shorter intervals
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mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Happy to be here
@WeberEducation
! Looking forward to a lively debate on
#testing
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In reply to @WeberEducation, @WeberEducation
theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1: Build assessment opportunities throughout the school day/year while using revised language to change Ss perceptions.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Yes Mike!
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1 Shorter feedback loops. Rather than waiting for the big test, lets assess at shorter intervals
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Eric Lawson Director of Tech & Libraries from York ME sorry I'm joining a little late
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1-smaller schools, focus on relationship in learning, SEE learning as it happens reduces need to "assess"
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: How about if we remove points & letters from nearly all assessments & just provide specific, growth-mindset-y feedback?
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Its about balance and the correct use of assessments. Most important is whats closest to the learning moment - formative use.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
#authentic
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AdamBrownEDU
May 9 @ 8:08 PM EDT
A1. Move towards Socratic thinking and demonstration of proficiency. Focus more on the journey towards learning.
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 Let's stop focusing on the grade and start focusing on mastery of the standards and skills
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
Yes!
#choice
#voice
#agency
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
A1 Create options for showing what you know
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glbspringer
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Ask "why are we testing?" The problem testing is testing for PROOF. Test for understanding and it becomes more clear.
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Funny you should ask,we are state testing this week. We need to assess for, & as the learning more. Right
@MeldrumKim
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
No Purpose, no feedback, no student response, why do it?
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In reply to @TeachDB17
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Glad you're here Eric!
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:09 PM EDT
Eric Lawson Director of Tech & Libraries from York ME sorry I'm joining a little late
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mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Good
#assessment
starts and ends w/ Ts investing in knowing each & every one of their Ss
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megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1 Assess practical skills, rather than rote memory. Find a way for Ss to apply their knowledge to real life!
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Should be doing CFUs constantly. Should be having "face time" w Ss, so we always know where they are-better meet their needs.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1p2: Too much assessment of the learning means less time for teaching & deeper meaning!
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
Yep!
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1 Let's stop focusing on the grade and start focusing on mastery of the standards and skills
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: What testing/assessment practices are harming learning and motivation?
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NewkirkJerrica
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Although I am still learning, I always found discussion to be helpful. It also helps teachers observe the interest of the class
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In reply to @WeberEducation
theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1b: You could reassess WHAT we're measuring. Reconsider the purpose of edu. Perhaps it's not in tests but rather Ss creations.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Always starting with why...
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glbspringer
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: Ask "why are we testing?" The problem testing is testing for PROOF. Test for understanding and it becomes more clear.
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
I want to live in that world-this is a paradigm shift I would like to see happen
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
A1: How about if we remove points & letters from nearly all assessments & just provide specific, growth-mindset-y feedback?
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Assessing doesn't always & mean testing. Find other engaging/empowering ways for Ss to show their understanding.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1 tests need more authenticity. Quality not quantity used for specific Student feedback
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Amen
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:10 PM EDT
No Purpose, no feedback, no student response, why do it?
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In reply to @TeachDB17
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: We do not assess enough - of the right thing, formative assessing in all of its forms, and too much of the wrong.
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Absolutely! It is all about supporting learners.
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In reply to @elawson1977
EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2 Covering the content...where is the motivation when you have no connection to your work
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
Amen!
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In reply to @elawson1977
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
The best intervention is a 1-on-1 conversation about learning
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:11 PM EDT
A1: Should be doing CFUs constantly. Should be having "face time" w Ss, so we always know where they are-better meet their needs.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:13 PM EDT
A2: 6 weeks of testing where Ss are being given test after test after test from the ACT to the End-of-Course exams. Hyper burnout.
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liz_fiore1
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Liz from NY jumping in late
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Wouldn't that be wonderful for both T's and S's!
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In reply to @BretMistergesl
AdamBrownEDU
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2. Assessments focused on regurgitating content. There is nothing to gain from this.
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2. Testing that doesn't allow Ss to show their understanding. Assessment that doesn't support growth.
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megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 Standardized tests that require students to pass before graduation - students aren't motivated when they're learning for a test
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 joining in from Montreal the frequent use of isolated paper pencil tests and then averaging results harm learning
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NewkirkJerrica
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
From personal experience, testing on information that wasn't taught by the instructor!
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In reply to @nalang1
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
Exactly...I'm not sure that testing and assessing are the same thing
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A1: Assessing doesn't always & mean testing. Find other engaging/empowering ways for Ss to show their understanding.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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MrsDamianoWH
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2: Trying to make a test fit to a certain amount of time, you wind up with a lot of questions focused on only a few standards
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
SAme for elementary. Talk about not loving learning by the time they get to HS
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In reply to @theaddisonpate
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
RTQ2: What testing/assessment practices are harming learning and motivation?
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Assessment goes far beyond tests, creations can be assessed of improve the creation. Must take assessment out of the "test" box
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In reply to @theaddisonpate
massignmenthelp
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
#WCPSMDLead
#ctedu
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#Teach2Teach
#Ohio_MLA
Top 5 Concerns Students Have While Writing Assignments
https://t.co/QNgbrlLwjX
glbspringer
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: Those with slow or no feedback.
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2: High stakes state/nation assessments that do not match the curricula
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2-Placing focus on raising data and achievement-learning is not something you achieve, it is a journey to be embarked upon
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: What testing/assessment practices are harming learning and motivation?
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JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A1) Stop grading everything. Formative assessments are important, but they should be to guide teaching. Students are for learning.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:07 PM EDT
Q1: There's compelling evidence we test too much & that it's not so good for learning. How do we "assess" better?
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
A2. Assessment that isn't shared with Ss in a timely manner. Ss wonder why they are assessed if they don't receive feedback.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: When we test low-level thinking & don't use assessment to inform future T & L - & when it's about the letter grade - Ss lose
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CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
A2: still hear of spelling tests, MC tests, weekly "story tests", timed math tests-what is purpose? Are Ss critically thinking?
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
Q2: What testing/assessment practices are harming learning and motivation?
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BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Couldn't agree more
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:12 PM EDT
A2 Covering the content...where is the motivation when you have no connection to your work
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theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
Absolutely! It's a paradigm shift. What we're measuring is growth and understanding, not a numbers game.
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In reply to @MrDataGuy
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:16 PM EDT
The best assessment is a 1-on-1 conversation about learning
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:15 PM EDT
Assessment goes far beyond tests, creations can be assessed of improve the creation. Must take assessment out of the "test" box
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In reply to @theaddisonpate
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Q3 Coming up in 1 minute...
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2 thinking that workflow tools that help collate students marks r appropriate ways of assessing-stop confusing tools w/assessment
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: The damage of calling standardized assessment even when its adaptive, a formative assessment. This is regularly done,
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Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
A2: Assessment that places the importance of scores and confining the Ss critical thinking in expressing their creativity
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In reply to @nalang1
CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
They aren't :)
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In reply to @WeberEducation
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:17 PM EDT
Agreed. 2 great points!
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:14 PM EDT
A2 joining in from Montreal the frequent use of isolated paper pencil tests and then averaging results harm learning
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: What testing/assessment practices are enhancing learning and motivation?
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mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
A2: Summative
#assessment
comes across to Ss as gotcha' while formative seems more about acknowledging the needs of the learner.
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MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
You made my night - it really does not get better than that, you can even document and call it data.
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In reply to @WeberEducation
glbspringer
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Agreed. Testing for growth should place emphasis on scores NOW not an average. Why penalize for learning?
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In reply to @WeberEducation
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Yes!! Constantly in Elementary. Don't see enough application or PBL
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In reply to @CoriOrlando1
erinhakes12
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
Q2:Although standardized testing is important, I believe creating new and exciting ways to "teach to the test" need to implemented
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EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3 I think good assessment provides timely and specific feedback that does end the learning but promotes or furthers it.
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3 assessment for learning and assessment as learning should be our focus guide and encourage students
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3. Assessment with immediate feedback. Assessment that provides information to Ss. Ss in primary also enjoy gamified feedback.
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3: Performance tasks, PBL, open ended projects that allow for Ss choice/voice, but hold them accountable to rubric standards
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TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3. Assessment that supports enriching and supporting learning for ALL students. One size DOES NOT fit all.
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theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3: Student-driven assessment where kids actively assess themselves to measure their own growth and push themselves further.
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AdamBrownEDU
May 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3. Teachers assessing Ss in a variety of ways. Determining proficiency through a collection of evidence and not a single sample
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megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 Formative assessment that provides clear, quick feedback to Ss during instruction. This helps Ss self-manage their learning!
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CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:20 PM EDT
A3 ones that S's can apply true learning. Makes me think of PBL or projects. Students have a choice in how they are assessed
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: What testing/assessment practices are enhancing learning and motivation?
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nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
RTQ3: What testing/assessment practices are enhancing learning and motivation?
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MrsDamianoWH
May 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: short & sweet assessments w. a few simple essential questions, written or in person or video. Really see if they "get it"
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erinhakes12
May 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
A3: Assessments need to be both enriching and productive for both the student and the teacher
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:21 PM EDT
#diverged
word of caution about gamified feedback some of the apps being used resemble old school charts on the wall=public shaming
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3. Assessment with immediate feedback. Assessment that provides information to Ss. Ss in primary also enjoy gamified feedback.
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3: S self-assessment, peer-assessment & a focus on feedback & possibilities 4 continuous improvement are ways to enhance learning
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JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Have students been asked what practices motivate them? What do they say?
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WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: What testing/assessment practices are enhancing learning and motivation?
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GregJWolcott
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3: FUELED (Focused, Uplifting, Edible, Lean, Enacted, Descriptive) FEEDBACK!!
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theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3b: To get Ss to do self-assess, however, we must provide purpose to their education and engage them throughout the year.
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MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3 yes but rubrics are only good if there are explars. Students need to know what the goals and expectations are.
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elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3: Performance tasks, PBL, open ended projects that allow for Ss choice/voice, but hold them accountable to rubric standards
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cpoole27
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Adopt the "YET" Mentality to increase motivation, instill belief and offer hope!
#DareToBe
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#tnedchat
https://t.co/uAuAvgPDCS
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Important within very limited learning uses, aiming inst. at standards, and assess formatively the big picture tests will be fine
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In reply to @erinhakes12
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Informal assessment w gamify lesson using hyperdoc or
https://t.co/oYMQRcjiRr
. Ss will be more relaxed to learn at their own pace
#divergED
In reply to @WeberEducation
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Lots of schools want to keep the wall of shame and name them data walls! It's horrible
#divergED
In reply to @MeldrumKim
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
I like it!
#divergED
GregJWolcott
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3: FUELED (Focused, Uplifting, Edible, Lean, Enacted, Descriptive) FEEDBACK!!
#divergED
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Thanks for sharing! I have seen this too. I am thinking more along the lines of assessments like
@GetKahoot
or using
@plickers
.
#diverged
In reply to @MeldrumKim, @GetKahoot, @plickers
mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
A3: Any practice that give Ss a chance to change Ts and their own perceptions of what they're capable of.
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Great, great, great question!
#divergED
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
Have students been asked what practices motivate them? What do they say?
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:18 PM EDT
Q3: What testing/assessment practices are enhancing learning and motivation?
#divergED
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
How would you assess the right thing?
#divergED
In reply to @MrDataGuy
CarrieAnnTripp
May 9 @ 8:23 PM EDT
Always ask the Ss! They know and will share!
#divergED
In reply to @JeremyDBond
nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q4: To what shifts to testing/assessment will your classroom, school, or district commit?
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Addressing the Growing Need for Data Science Education
https://t.co/gJsl7TMdzF
@Getting_Smart
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Yes, rubrics or scoring guide and exemplars or anchors go hand-in-hand
#divergED
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:22 PM EDT
A3 yes but rubrics are only good if there are explars. Students need to know what the goals and expectations are.
#diverged
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:19 PM EDT
A3: Performance tasks, PBL, open ended projects that allow for Ss choice/voice, but hold them accountable to rubric standards
#diverged
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
A3 assessment should happen while students are solving problems+creating
#divergED
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Thank you. It helps to have another great question when you don't know the answer to the other one. 😉
#divergED
In reply to @WeberEducation
Gavin_Sonntag
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A1) Instead of having Ss regurgitate information, assess learning in
#PBL
. Make it meaningful. Ss are more than a test score.
#divergED
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A3: Let me be clear, Hattie agrees, THE FORMATIVE USE OF ASSESSMENT. It is what closes gaps and move learning forward
#diverged
In reply to @nalang1
CarrieAnnTripp
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
What is an alternative format for data walls?
#divergED
In reply to @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
A4: Ongoing assessment for learning using
#GoogleClassroom
#GoogleForms
w/ speedy feedback & meaningful redirection/relearning
#diverged
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Always a great strategy!
#divergED
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
Thank you. It helps to have another great question when you don't know the answer to the other one. 😉
#divergED
In reply to @WeberEducation
EdTechPeck
May 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4 We have been focusing on providing students with authentic experiences that promote voice and choice using
#gsuite
#DivergEd
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
Not sure. We were forced to use them in a classroom and I always try to turn it into a positive thing but that was for 1st grade
#divergED
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
theaddisonpate
May 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: Can't speak for the latter two, but I'm going to begin the transition to gradeless and work standards-based measures.
#divergED
MrsDamianoWH
May 9 @ 8:26 PM EDT
A4: In my classroom, less MC old-school tests, more succinct open-ended questions to CFU. Lots of thought going into retakes, AHH!
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
RTQ4: To what shifts to testing/assessment will your classroom, school, or district commit?
#divergED
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
Identify critical standards, and the learning progression needed to meet them. Find evidence of learning, if it not there fix it
#diverged
In reply to @JeremyDBond
mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
So humble... Great discourse comes from great questions!
#divergED
In reply to @JeremyDBond, @WeberEducation
Gavin_Sonntag
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A2) Having students take TONS of standardized exams... They cause test anxiety & they don't accurately measure learning.
#divergED
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
No alternative. They should not exist.
#diverged
CarrieAnnTripp
May 9 @ 8:25 PM EDT
What is an alternative format for data walls?
#divergED
In reply to @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I don't know why we "need" them. The student knows how they are doing and so do I. Not sure why it needs advertisement
#divergED
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
GregJWolcott
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
A4: More self assessment acknowledging progress focused around Ss strengths is so important!
@thrively
@VIAstrengths
#pospsych
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4: We'll continue to involve Ss more in their learning journey through self-assessment & empower Ss to take responsibility
#divergED
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4. Assessment that is timely, with feedback that is timely, especially for assessment that is school wide.
#diverged
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
So true. They are demoralizing not motivating.
#diverged
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
I don't know why we "need" them. The student knows how they are doing and so do I. Not sure why it needs advertisement
#divergED
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4 More open-ended questions, authentic assessment, and formative assessment that reaches every student!
#divergED
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4. Assessment that involves Ss in application. Watch how and what they learned/how they applied it. You might be surprised.
#diverged
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
We are working on 21st century learning by having students blog use screencasts create video+more to demonstrate their knowledge
#divergED
BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4-Keeping the learning conversation open and alive-Helping Ss to self advocate, learn from each other & find their own solutions
#divergED
nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:24 PM EDT
Q4: To what shifts to testing/assessment will your classroom, school, or district commit?
#divergED
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
See you next time on
#divergED
!!
nalang1
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Thank you everyone for joining us this evening!
#divergED
Gavin_Sonntag
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A3) Start simple... Formative assessments aid in the learning process more than we think. Use assessment to form instruction!
#divergED
MrsDamianoWH
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4: Goals- SBG and going gradeless, scary but hoping to make small steps to get there! 1st step- studying up on new stndrds
#NGSS
#divergED
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Absolutely. Being able to ask guiding questions is so important
#diverged
megan_vankirk
May 9 @ 8:28 PM EDT
A4 More open-ended questions, authentic assessment, and formative assessment that reaches every student!
#divergED
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4p2: Develop strong relationships w/ your Ss & you can learn a lot more about their understanding & growth.
#diverged
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4: Great question. There are always reasons to give more tests, even though there is no impact on learning. Must resist.
#diverged
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4. , I had no control over any of it. They were more assessments that came from the district than content tests I gave
#divergEd
WeberEducation
- Moderator
May 9 @ 8:27 PM EDT
RTQ4: To what shifts to testing/assessment will your classroom, school, or district commit?
#divergED
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Yes assessment for and as learning! This should be our daily focus and what we report on on report cards
#diverged
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:29 PM EDT
A4. Assessment that involves Ss in application. Watch how and what they learned/how they applied it. You might be surprised.
#diverged
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Thanks so much
@nalang1
&
@WeberEducation
for a great discussion!
#diverged
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Schools are trying to apply competitive environment from working world to schools, which definitely doesn't encourage the Ssl!
#divergED
In reply to @CandiceColson, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Great chat for such a relevant topic!!
#divergEd
In reply to @nalang1
Gavin_Sonntag
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4) Assessment is purposeful... If we are lacking a purpose, assessment is meaningless. Use assessment in purposeful ways!
#divergED
TeachDB17
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Again, never disappointed with
#diverged
chats! Thanks for pushing my thinking!
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:32 PM EDT
A4: Here the number of require tests lessened, but the number of tests to prove progress on state initiatives exploded, less=more
#diverged
MeldrumKim
May 9 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Great chat. Thanks for tagging me
@elawson1977
#divergED
CarrieAnnTripp
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Does competition ever play a role in education?
#divergED
In reply to @Stephanie_GXY, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
MrDataGuy
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Now my heart rate can get back to normal. Theres so much positive in assessment, yet standardized testing has done so much damage
#diverged
In reply to @WeberEducation
CoriOrlando1
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Agree!! You can't help your Ss if you don't know your Ss.
#relationshipsmatter
#divergED
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4p2: Develop strong relationships w/ your Ss & you can learn a lot more about their understanding & growth.
#diverged
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Amen! Or help with the success in the classroom!
#DivergEd
In reply to @Stephanie_GXY, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
A4: Allow Ss to create their own fun self-paced lesson will help Ts to assess Ss creativity & understanding of the lesson material
#divergEd
In reply to @nalang1
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hope we can all agree on this!
#divergED
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4p2: Develop strong relationships w/ your Ss & you can learn a lot more about their understanding & growth.
#diverged
mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Competition is a natural phenomenon that needs little encouragement. Ts should encourage the kind that builds bridges not walls
#divergED
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @Stephanie_GXY, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Maybe only a very small %. Not many Ss can regain their confidence after they get defeated
#divergEd
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
I sure can!
#divergED
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:36 PM EDT
Hope we can all agree on this!
#divergED
elawson1977
May 9 @ 8:30 PM EDT
A4p2: Develop strong relationships w/ your Ss & you can learn a lot more about their understanding & growth.
#diverged
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
Competition has to be done wisely and it has to be balanced well. This requires great effort from Ts to oversee
#divergEd
In reply to @mexusmx, @CarrieAnnTripp, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:41 PM EDT
promotes wrong message-healthy in some contexts but if I'm learning from interest & passion, what's there to compete for?
#divergEd
CarrieAnnTripp
May 9 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Does competition ever play a role in education?
#divergED
In reply to @Stephanie_GXY, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:42 PM EDT
True, and allow for safe ways to fail as well.
#DivergEd
In reply to @mexusmx, @CarrieAnnTripp, @Stephanie_GXY, @MeldrumKim
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Especially now a days!That's why we need to help them learn that failure is not always a bad thing and helps us toward learning.
#diverged
In reply to @Stephanie_GXY, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
CandiceColson
May 9 @ 8:44 PM EDT
Yes!!
#divergEd
In reply to @Stephanie_GXY, @mexusmx, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
JeremyDBond
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
And for better or worse, our society reflects it. But it's important to recognize trends toward collaboration.
#divergED
mexusmx
May 9 @ 8:38 PM EDT
Competition is a natural phenomenon that needs little encouragement. Ts should encourage the kind that builds bridges not walls
#divergED
In reply to @CarrieAnnTripp, @Stephanie_GXY, @CandiceColson, @MeldrumKim
BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Amen amen amen! Really! Why?! That is not the kind of "learning environment" a child can thrive and grow in
#divergEd
In reply to @CandiceColson, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
Stephanie_GXY
May 9 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Yes! And failure could be an open door for another great success which no one has even explored or thought
#divergEd
In reply to @CandiceColson, @CarrieAnnTripp, @MeldrumKim
BretMistergesl
May 9 @ 8:47 PM EDT
Agree with that addition
@JeremyDBond
-competition is real but so are empathy and community-would like to see those fostered more
#divergEd
In reply to @JeremyDBond, @JeremyDBond
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