#RuralEdChat Archive
#RuralEdChat is a chat that focuses on the needs of the rural educator. This chat has been revised by Tammy Neil (@MathNeil), John Martin (@edventures) and Natalee Stotz (@nataleestotz).
Tuesday July 18, 2017
8:30 PM EDT
robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Good evening,
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Robin here taking the lead for tonight's conversation. How is everyone this evening?
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Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:30 PM EDT
Hey, Linda! So glad you are here, of course. It's pretty warm and humid here in my part of Wisconsin, too. Summer, summer.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Fine, thanks. And you?
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:31 PM EDT
Jerry Cybraryman just posted
https://t.co/3QrJ3kBYF5
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Is this humidity all over the North and NE states?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Hi, Bill! Doing really well and so glad to have this conversation with you in attendance!
#mindfultweeps
:)
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM EDT
Doing excellent this evening. It's hot and humid in Arkansas!
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Fairly humid here in Western Mass. but not over the top.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Do I see
@bivey
back again? Missed you @
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:33 PM EDT
Nathan, thanks so much for being here! I'm guessing Arkansas may win the prize for warmest state represented in
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tonight!
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Good to see you here!!!
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
Anything is possible in Arkansas. Wait 10 minutes and the weather changes!
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:34 PM EDT
I'd think Arkansas was humid a lot. I lived in SC, VA and KY... hated the humidity.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
Got lots of good stories to share?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:35 PM EDT
😀🙃😜
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:36 PM EDT
So tonight's topic is near&dear to me & interested in others' perspectives.Just attended a 16-day training w/
@WeBreatheChange
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:37 PM EDT
Quiet but good summer here. With my wife, moving our son to the Upper West Side a genuine highlight. And you!
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM EDT
We're taking a bit of a themed approach over the next 3 chats & focusing on minds.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:39 PM EDT
Consider joining us for all 3 chats if you can make them. We'd love to have extensive conversation over time on this.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
We'll follow a Q1/A1 format unless/until natural conversation takes over, but please tag all of your tweets w/
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
I didn't realize I was this late to the conversation. So glad
@robinhosemann
has the lead tonight for
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Q1 What does mindfulness mean to you? What are your personal experiences or impressions of it?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
Hello, Tammy! You get a free pass because you created
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:) Pretty sure none of us would be here w/o your vision!
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A1: Mindfulness means that I am particular in my thoughts and deeds in dealing with people. Being kind and considerate
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:40 PM EDT
Q1 What does mindfulness mean to you? What are your personal experiences or impressions of it?
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:42 PM EDT
A1 Quote from Gen McCrystal says mindfulness is "disciplined empathy" --putting yourself in the other's shoes over and over
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Awe, thanks. But it takes every voice to make
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what it is. Everyone matters.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: Mindfulness is the act of focusing on the things/people/world around you. Not being a passenger but a participant in life.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:44 PM EDT
A1 Mindfulness requires an attitude of goodwill or at least of doing no harm. It involves a worthy goal
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massignmenthelp
Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
How to Write the Best Conclusion Chapter for Dissertation
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AssignmentHelpN
Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A Simple Guide on How to Design an Effective Case Study
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
Loving these tweets about mindfulness being about community in many ways. A tribute to something greater, for sure.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A1 I think of mindfulness as a sort of calm but alert awareness, internal and external.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
#everyvoice
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#welcomehome
:)
TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
Awe, thanks. But it takes every voice to make
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what it is. Everyone matters.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Yes, but I think mindfulness occurs 1:1...and may build into wider sense of community
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
A1: Yes, being a participant in life and positively impacting those around you!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:43 PM EDT
A1: Mindfulness is the act of focusing on the things/people/world around you. Not being a passenger but a participant in life.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM EDT
So to build off of Bill's thinking with a follow-up to Q1: Q1.2 Is anyone familiar with Jon Kabat Zinn's work on mindfulness?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:45 PM EDT
A1 I think of mindfulness as a sort of calm but alert awareness, internal and external.
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A1: yes it's face2face. Developing communities and relationships.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:46 PM EDT
Yes, but I think mindfulness occurs 1:1...and may build into wider sense of community
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
Interested in hearing more about this 1:1 idea, Linda. Say more?
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM EDT
A2
@robinhosemann
I'm not
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:49 PM EDT
Me either.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
I'm a major newbie to studying Kabat-Zinn, but in '79 he developed Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction in healthcare setting.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:50 PM EDT
Idea from some verses I was mulling over in Bible study about treatment of one's neighbor
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM EDT
Handy link for later read
https://t.co/2dYdvbRELn
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:52 PM EDT
JK-Z defined mindfulness as "awareness that arises thru paying attention, on purpose, in the present moment, non-judgmentally"
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:53 PM EDT
cont
@robinhosemann
be as mindful of what's important to your neighbor as U R f what's important to you. So 1:1
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Q2 Why does/has mindfulness gotten more attention lately? Is anyone hearing the term used more?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
(Wow. That was a very poorly worded Q,
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!! My apologies!)
LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A2 Honestly,
@robinhosemann
I think it's because it sounds good but is ill defined, so we can't be held accountable
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
So much laughter in recognition of this, Linda. Hilarious phenomenon in edu culture!!
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:55 PM EDT
A2 Honestly,
@robinhosemann
I think it's because it sounds good but is ill defined, so we can't be held accountable
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:56 PM EDT
A2 I think it's become a bit of an edu-trend, for a variety of reasons not all of which delight me.
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A2: We discussed it at our Leadership Summit last week. It's about being deliberate, conscientious, and empathic
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM EDT
Q2 Why does/has mindfulness gotten more attention lately? Is anyone hearing the term used more?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
Oh please say more, Bill.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:57 PM EDT
A2: I think as we become more self absorbed as a society, we realize that we need to be more aware.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Love these things in my teacher heart, Nathan, but wondering what that looks like in systems. Thoughts?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A2 For one negative example, I've seen mindfulness touted as a way to ease the stress of standardized testing. Blecch.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A2 We jargonize stuff that's unpleasant/difficult to practice ... easier then to ignore
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
Oh, I will. 😀🙃😀
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 8:59 PM EDT
that old pendulum swing? I'm interested in those arcs, personal and societal
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A2 But I've also seen mindfulness done in a much more student-centered life skill kind of way. That appeals to me more.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
O my wise
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friends! How I appreciate you! We know we're in trouble when it shows up as standard. test Qs, right??
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 8:58 PM EDT
A2 We jargonize stuff that's unpleasant/difficult to practice ... easier then to ignore
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I see "big words" as good ways of avoiding doing tough stuff. So much easier to ignore what's not clear to us
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Yes! Xperienced deep dive into tackling mindfulness practice as an individual 1st w/goal to deeply engage b4 sharing w/others.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:00 PM EDT
A2 But I've also seen mindfulness done in a much more student-centered life skill kind of way. That appeals to me more.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Can you share some examples?
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Sometimes this is true but if you don't do the tough stuff eventually you get moved on regardless of the "big words"
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Our own school counselor is an outstanding example - guided meditation and relaxation fortnightly with the middle schoolers.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Exactly... and that may be a good thing!
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Research is mounting that these strategies have huge benefits for wellness, well-being and engagement.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Our own school counselor is an outstanding example - guided meditation and relaxation fortnightly with the middle schoolers.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
She made me a digital recording I can use. I have a whole plan this year to be more regular and incorporate more student voice.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q3 What role does the pace of our work and its demands have in your mindfulness practices?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A3 I find I am calmer and more focused when I do relaxation/meditation with the kids. Not as good at taking time on my own.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:08 PM EDT
that's fantastic, Bill. I'm seeing so clearly lately that cultivating mindfulness may very well be foundation of deep learning
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT
How do you work it into your own life?
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A3 For me, the nature of the work rather than the pace makes a difference. Clear work goal enables mindfulness 4 me
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A3: I find the pace and demands cause me to purposely be mindful. The decisions I make today can impact Ss for years.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q3 What role does the pace of our work and its demands have in your mindfulness practices?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:10 PM EDT
That's astute. 😀
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
👍🏼
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A3: I often find myself so focused on work that I lose track of the things that make life pleasurable. Have to stop & focus.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
I've set up a morning practice and some check in reminders throughout the day to connect to my breath and thoughts.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Thank you, Bill. I can't recall "astute" being used in reference to anything i said before!
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MsMc_16
Jul 18 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Me, too. I let it get in the way.
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and late to the party!
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A3b: My definition of "work" has changed as well. It no longer applies to a specific job. More to the tasks I must complete.
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A3: this is so true. Got to give ourselves to be mindful of ourselves. Permission to breathe
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A3: I often find myself so focused on work that I lose track of the things that make life pleasurable. Have to stop & focus.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Yes, and finding non-judgmental aspects and self-acceptance reminders to myself are key. I'm highly distractable!
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
That's great. It also reminds me, if on a very different plane, of
@tinycarebot
. 😀
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
2nd mention of this to me lately! Must give it a try! Have you?
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:13 PM EDT
That's great. It also reminds me, if on a very different plane, of
@tinycarebot
. 😀
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crottymark
Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
We need to be asking what we're (schools, larger culture) doing to kids that has led us make mindfulness such an urgent topic.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I often forget to put me on my own task list.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I do, actually! It's cute and vaguely helpful in its own bot-like way.
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LindaAragoni
Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I have to focus on Goals. Tasks distract me from being mindful. I ignore people to cross things off lists.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Was amazing 2 experience how 3 collective breaths could impact room of 100+ educators in our learning sessions
@WeBreatheChange
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Hi Tammy M. We welcome you!
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT
For sure! I definitely sensed a deeper need in my kids post-election, for starters.
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Yes, taking a moment to center oneself is important
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:17 PM EDT
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tinycarebot
Jul 18 @ 9:15 PM EDT
here's ur personal reminder: 🌱: please take a quick moment to eat something nutritious! ily!!
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:18 PM EDT
And then, I suspect absence of letter grades in our MS, of tests in my (and some other) classes helps rather more than hurts.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:19 PM EDT
This was one of the things most of the attendees to this training had in common. Almost to the person.
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TG_Neil
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I often forget to put me on my own task list.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q4 What Qs do you have about mindfulness & edu? We'll revisit the topic in two weeks. Here's a cool org
https://t.co/rsWHzg61Kg
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:21 PM EDT
That's the minimum I'll do daily with my kids this year. It does make an amazing difference.
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crottymark
Jul 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Sure, but we've been slowly increasing the boil on kids for several years now.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I'd love to know students' takes on it. I know what my kids tell me, but I'm also known for promoting it.
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nthnwhte
Jul 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A4: I want to see ways that Ss are permitted to be mindful in other schools. It takes modeling from Ts and I want to see that
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Also, building on what
@crottymark
brought up, what school practices inhibit mindfulness and what can we do?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:23 PM EDT
& it's extremely impactful. Maybe smallest efforts are actually the greatest, in the end.
#whoknew
apparently
#alotofpeople
;)
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Too true. I think as an independent middle school/Rock Band teacher, I see less than others. But I know it's worsening.
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:25 PM EDT
And seeing some big systemic and societal impacts, right?
#hitpause
So much consideration of long-term needed.
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crottymark
Jul 18 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Sure, but we've been slowly increasing the boil on kids for several years now.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:26 PM EDT
Where would you start in lowering the temperature?
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robinhosemann
- Moderator
Jul 18 @ 9:28 PM EDT
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friends, have we told you lately how much we ❤️ you? Thank you for the great Qs for continued conversation. For being here.
crottymark
Jul 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
There's a bigger-faster-stronger mentality that dominates much in all aspects of school life, i.e. acad performance as race.
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bivey
Jul 18 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Thanks for your ever-thoughtful moderation! Be well, all y'all in
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!
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