#lifelongKDG Archive


Thursday March 8, 2018
7:00 PM EST

  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:00 PM EST
    Intro: Welcome to week 2 of the #lifelongKDG twitter. chat. Please introduce yourself with Name / Location / Role / @mres shared his story of the mini golf course he created when he was a kid. Share something cool you have created…
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:02 PM EST
    Hello! I work on #CSforAllNYC. When I was little my mom organized all the neighborhood kids to make the set an run a full production of "The Three Piggy Opera" #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:00 PM EST
      Intro: Welcome to week 2 of the #lifelongKDG twitter. chat. Please introduce yourself with Name / Location / Role / @mres shared his story of the mini golf course he created when he was a kid. Share something cool you have created…
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:02 PM EST
    Mike Kronberg, middle school literacy specialist in NY. I have created figurative language songs, recorded them in Garage Band, and made videos for them which we've shared on YouTube #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Love it!!! So creative. I see where you got it! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Awesome. I knew this icebreaker was gonna reveal some great stuff! Nice to see you, Mike! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Mae, from Millburn, NJ. Teacher Leader. Created... 2 awesome kids. Haha. In college, I put together a World Youth Leadership & Activism Conference and allowed HS students the opportunity to attend college for a week. #lifelongKDG
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:03 PM EST
    Awwww. You guys are too kind! Thank you! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Q1: Piaget coined the term constructivism and Papert the term constructionism. These are often confused. What are your definitions? How do you see the role of either / both in education? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:04 PM EST
    Steve from NJ - I teach Game Design and Development. In High School for my final project in BASIC programming I created an adventure game - apparently that class (thanks Mr. Behson) had a pretty big influence on me :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:05 PM EST
    I, too, was responsible for the creation of 2 awesome kids. @iwearthecrowns and I often look at them and say, "We made them!" #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @maeward2311, @iwearthecrowns
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:05 PM EST
    Hi everyone! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. This semester I'm creating a DragonQuest ARG for my Ss. Has really been fun! #lifelongkdg
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:05 PM EST
    I see constructionism as the next step forward. I think it's a goal for us to work towards in the current climate in education. #lifelongKDG
  • Dale_Chu Mar 8 @ 7:07 PM EST
    HAPPENING NOW: @mr_isaacs and @KCintheNYC leading a talk on iterative design. Follow along at #lifelongKDG!
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:07 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us Dale :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @Dale_Chu, @KCintheNYC
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:08 PM EST
    Hey #LifeLongKDG.. I’m urbie from chandler, arizona.. i design PD learning experiences for healthcare, law enforcement. Created a Trash Can game in '97.
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:09 PM EST
    A1: In both, learning is gained through experience. It seems constructionism has more emphasis on actual creation of something--the maker movement, if you will #lifelongkdg
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:09 PM EST
    Q2: Constructionism (I think) is building off of a solid foundation. Adding layers and layers of scaffolded learning. Growth happens as result of interdependent learners collaborating. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:09 PM EST
    Constructivism is the notion of building our knowledge from what we experience around us while constructionism is more the building of knowledge through the process of creating. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:09 PM EST
    A1 #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:09 PM EST
      Constructivism is the notion of building our knowledge from what we experience around us while constructionism is more the building of knowledge through the process of creating. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:10 PM EST
    OMG, what was that about??? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @urbie
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:10 PM EST
    Do you see one of these as being a higher DOK than the other? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:10 PM EST
    A1: I believe constructivism and constructionism can go hand in hand. I love how twitter and connecting with other educators supports constructivist learning so beautifully. We build on our knowledge by assimilating all the info we take in. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:11 PM EST
    I feel ya. I just think about construction workers, kids in hard hats lol #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:11 PM EST
    @mr_isaacs! Thanks for the reminder earlier today! Glad to be here!! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:12 PM EST
    Q2: How does Piaget’s idea that “children don't get ideas, they make them” resonate with how you teach? How does it impact pedagogy? Student expectations? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:12 PM EST
    I agree and constructivism is more about the compiling of information we take in to build our knowledge base. It gives hope to the fact that there doesn't have to be a right and wrong but our knowledge can build based on everything we take in. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:12 PM EST
    Hiya Urbie! Good to see you again! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @urbie
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:12 PM EST
    Thanks for joining us! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @dianagentile_1
  • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:12 PM EST
    Kit Haines, from New Zealand, Masters of Teaching student (History/Social Studies), created several awesome contemporary dance/spoken word theatre shows over the last few years #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:13 PM EST
    That's a great question. I believe you could say constructionism is but I love how we come to understand something through a constructivist approach so maybe they're pretty close. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:14 PM EST
    Fantastic and welcome! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @kit_haines
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:14 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A1 Constructivism is learning based on pattern recognition. Determining where new fits w/old. Constructionism is learning manifest for feedback from others.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:14 PM EST
    I think we need some more info on the trash can game :) Thanks for joining us tonight urbie! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @urbie
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:15 PM EST
    I was at #SXSWEDU until today and only missed one day of school because of all the weather and downed trees and such. Now we have a delayed opening tomorrow. Not too shabby. #lifelongKDG
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:15 PM EST
    Speaking as someone who's currently studying Theory for my Teaching course. The various branches of Constructivst theory is much more splintered than the other Theories. I "get" it but hard to fully define without going into an alternative branch #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:15 PM EST
    When students realise that their realities are socially constructed, they can critically read and write their own worlds. They should be challenging the social construction of texts around them, not only traditional but all texts, film, advertising, social networks. #lifelongKDG
  • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:16 PM EST
    Diana from PA. former world history teacher currently working in STEM and focused on getting kids involved in robotics! #lifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:16 PM EST
    A1) I see constructionism as the next step forward. I think it's a goal for us to work toward in the current climate in education. #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:16 PM EST
    sounds like you have a lot to share - feel free to take some stabs at it! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:16 PM EST
    Glad you could join us! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @dianagentile_1
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:17 PM EST
    Love this response! #lifelongKDG
    • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:15 PM EST
      When students realise that their realities are socially constructed, they can critically read and write their own worlds. They should be challenging the social construction of texts around them, not only traditional but all texts, film, advertising, social networks. #lifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:18 PM EST
    In what ways can we get students to see their realities are socially constructed? I'm curious about what you have done. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @kit_haines
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:18 PM EST
    A thoughtful insight. And as you said, we should be expanding this to all texts--I would also add the growing number of rich-text games and video games, too #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @kit_haines
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:19 PM EST
    Wow, tell me more about how students do this in your classroom #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @kit_haines
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:19 PM EST
    Don't forget the #lifelongKDG hashtag to stay in the conversation
    • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:18 PM EST
      I know that sadly in our studies Papert doesn't really show up (Not even as a branch to Piaget), but aspects of his theories appear in "Evidence Based" teaching techniques in that we need to let learners create their meaning and facilitate rather than dictate
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:20 PM EST
    Q3: Creative Learning Spiral / Iterative Design - @mres speaks to the naturally occurring creative learning spiral when students are in the role of creating something. How do you bring these ideas into your classroom? How would you like to further do so? #lifelongKDG
  • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:20 PM EST
    Well, I'm only a Masters student, so am merely beginning my inquiry into critical literacies. Looking at ways to get students to look at texts critically, asking how they've been constructed, whose interests do they serve and how they work to produce our identities. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:20 PM EST
    A1: I am a strong believer in constructivism! We all learn best through our own experiences and understandings of the world. #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:21 PM EST
    Check out: https://t.co/V8ermTyIvJ #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:21 PM EST
    Whoops sorry, focused on thoughts and forgot to put the tag. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:21 PM EST
    For some reason I didn't see Q2 come up.. here it is Q2: How does Piaget’s idea that “children don't get ideas, they make them” resonate with how you teach? How does it impact pedagogy? Student expectations? #lifelongKDG
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:22 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG Trash can game.. produced in Macromedia (Adobe) for #Shockwave where a fab worker must toss a found object in the right trash can: Acid, Solvent, General within a set amount of time. Guess wrong: #boom.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:22 PM EST
    A3: I am in love with the Creative Learning Spiral and the Iterative Design Process - when kids make games it is a crucial part of the process, in fact my primary teaching objective is that they understand that - so important #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:23 PM EST
    Awesome - I loved Macromedia Director and Flash #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @urbie
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:23 PM EST
    A2) I guess I would want clarification about what he means. So much of what is expected with literacy support seems to work against students feeling empowered to have their own ideas or to feel they are worthy enough to be shared. #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:23 PM EST
    More hands on, active learning, less sitting, lecturing, (note: not none.) more conversation / dialogue, #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:23 PM EST
    totally agree and it also kind of took some pressure off for me thinking that there was always a right or wrong. We come up with our understanding through the learning process and taking it all in. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @dianagentile_1
  • ericaeducator Mar 8 @ 7:24 PM EST
    I saw it! I’ll answer with the first thing that popped into my head - Ts need to be guide on the side as opposed to sage on the stage - let Ss lead inquiry, #pbl, etc. Let them take the reigns of their own learning #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:24 PM EST
    What are your kids building? Physical or computational? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrterborg, @mr_isaacs
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:25 PM EST
    Only a masters ..... no. You're a masters student. You're not merely beginning either. Forgive the abruptness, please, as these thinking processes can impede your learning and your students learning without one realizing it. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @kit_haines, @KronbergToolbox
  • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:25 PM EST
    A3: Iteration is a cornerstone of robotics and engineering! Fail fast, fail often, fail forward! #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:25 PM EST
    A2: If we provide a space for collaborative / social learning and exploration we provide an opportunity for students to develop their own ideas. It's somewhat of a paradigm shift for sure. #lifelongKDG
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:25 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A2 I like to make learning visible.. “this” demos efficacy. Usually case studies (stories). Helps w/engagement & ownership..
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:26 PM EST
    Q2: Students are builders of their own knowledge. Constructivism view of "students /children don't get ideas, they make them” is a great reminder that we need to empower students to find their "why" / their purpose so that their learning is meaningful. I teach 8th #lifelongkdg
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:26 PM EST
    A2: As a younger T, I was focused on coming up with cool ideas for Ss. Then I realized that wasn't the point. Ss are more engaged and learn more when it's their ideas. Sometimes I'm still relearning this #lifelongkdg
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:21 PM EST
      For some reason I didn't see Q2 come up.. here it is Q2: How does Piaget’s idea that “children don't get ideas, they make them” resonate with how you teach? How does it impact pedagogy? Student expectations? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:26 PM EST
    and of course game design. and should be integral in many more areas of education and project / problem based learning. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @dianagentile_1
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:27 PM EST
    I love the stories from #lifelongKDG about kids coming up with their own projects along with how Papert conducted Logo lessons. But as a volunteer students get linear step by step things. I'm currently looking at Googles CSFirst and really like how that's more loose
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:27 PM EST
    Samples of things i produced with Flash.. https://t.co/odFgLMJ6W0 .. top one’s used at a Texas CC horticulture class still #LifeLongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:27 PM EST
    What did that shift look like in reality? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:27 PM EST
    Can't it be both? This year, my small groups are working on physical computing / e-textiles (4-5th) or buildings (2nd/3rd). We're just getting in to biomimicry. Previously, I did a lot of coding/movie creation, (PK+ and picture analysis -1/2nd+ #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:28 PM EST
    Q4: Puzzles vs projects. “Puzzles might be fine for learning the basic grammar and punctuation of coding, but they won't help you learn to express yourself.” How does this play out in your classroom? Do you start with puzzles or go right to projects? #lifelongKDG
  • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:28 PM EST
    A2: Piaget’s statement resonates with Friere's opposition to the banking model. Production of knowledge is something I am passionate about. Students learning needs to be part of their world. Students are producers of content, as much as they are consumers. #lifelongKDG
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:28 PM EST
    Totally! That sounds awesome! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrterborg, @mr_isaacs
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM EST
    Q3: I hope to foster activism in my students and make them contribute to the community. This allows them to choose their cause and then create a venue for others to share their passion. #lifelongkdg
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM EST
    Granted, I usually do things separately #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM EST
    A3: I try to recreate the cycle most w/ writing, using peer review groups that give feedbk on one section of writing. Tech is so helpful with quick feedback and revision/recreation #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM EST
    A4: Sometimes I start with puzzles or tutorials, but I try to always have kids create something to expand upon what they learn. This could start with modding and then move to building something from scratch (no pun intended) #lifelongKDG
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:29 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A3a I use #designthinking with clients when i can. It sounds like learning spiral/iterative design. +
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:30 PM EST
    One of my biggest concerns was how I was given content they just follow - but at first as a fresh volunteer didn't know better methods existed (but I guess its so volunteers don't have to be scratch experts.) #lifelongKDG
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:30 PM EST
    A3) It is something that I aspire to. The students in my classes are all struggling readers and I hope to change their view about reading and writing. If my students can see writing as iterative they will have more confidence in their abilities. #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:30 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG Mike, MD. EL LMS. Also a Certificate in early childhood tech from @TuftsECT
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:31 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A3b #designthinking helps build trust & risk to ideate that might otherwise not be shared.. I initially share a story about it.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:32 PM EST
    I found that much of CSFirst was pretty directed, but once I added little challenges or encouraged kids to mod the projects beyond the directions it got more individualized #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:32 PM EST
    But overall found that what happens is the kids build the step-by-step projects, but then don't feel inspired/empowered to do their own work outside of Scratch/ HTML/Python #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:32 PM EST
    AMEN! I totally relate - and it becomes soooooo refreshing when we really get it and see it in action! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mpilakow
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:34 PM EST
    I always point right to writing as the quintessential iterative activity. We've essentially gotten it right years ago - brainstorm, write, peer edit, revise, peer edit, revise, publish - great example of the iterative design process! #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:34 PM EST
    My style when teaching PK coding via @scratchjr is to show them how to make things move and let them go. They'll figure it out when they're ready. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG, @ScratchJr
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:35 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A4a When I taught Flash Actionscript I’d start with pseudocode (see https://t.co/GuT9ATCM4b via @courseIntel) +
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:35 PM EST
    A4: I like a combination of both. Puzzles (or models or what have you) can serve as scaffolding to Ss, providing new thinking activities. Some Ss need more foundation work than others #lifelongkdg
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:35 PM EST
    Yes. Yes he does! He's probably playing #minecraft with his son :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @maeward2311, @evanabramson
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
    Q5: “Becoming fluent, whether with writing or coding, helps you to develop your thinking, develop your voice, and develop your identity.” What kind of evidence do we have of this, either anecdotally or from research? #lifelongKDG
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A4b It’s a way to make the abstract a little more human. Describe what to do then drop in the code to do it..
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
    The hardest part of the process, I think, is the revision. So often, Ss want to get it exactly right the first time and then they're done. That's the part that I'm still getting better at...#lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KronbergToolbox
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
    Are there any you really like? @codeorg? #swiftplayground? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @codeorg
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:37 PM EST
    My style when teaching PK via @scratchjr is to teach them how to make things move and then let them go. They'll discover things as they're ready. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @ChibiBeckyG, @ScratchJr
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:37 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A5a When the SMEs (Subject Matter Experts) I design with shush me or forget I’m there [anecdotally] evidences they found voice.
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:38 PM EST
    I've heard similar things? How do we solve this? What's one way we might iterate? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:38 PM EST
    A5: This question makes me thinking of the kids from Parkland - @Emma4Change is a prime example. While we are not talking about coding, she's got the fluency thing down. So proud of that group of kids and how they've found their voice and are impacting change! #lifelongKDG
  • HumResPro Mar 8 @ 7:38 PM EST
    A2 It reflects the obvious notion that a student's discovery of learning is a teacher's greatest asset to educate. Let them explore and mentor when necessary! #edreform #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:38 PM EST
    I couldn’t agree more!! Coding, game design, robotic, and many other 21st century careers! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM EST
    A5: Blogging! This has absolutely grounded my feet to the ground and put clarity to my vision and mission. I love the idea of putting thoughts down and sharing it with the world. I'm still waiting for the day that someone will disagree. It's that powerful. #lifelongkdg
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM EST
    Have you tried @ScratchJr? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KronbergToolbox, @ScratchJr
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM EST
    It's interesting - I like @codeorg because it's so accessible, I like @Codecademy although it is mostly too tutorial driven, but the kids like the incremental part and it keeps them going - need to create more of the extension activities #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @codeorg, @Codecademy
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:40 PM EST
    For myself I've been going through the @freeCodeCamp #100daysofcode activities - but again mostly tutorial based - it's like a good news bad news kind of thing - enjoy the incremental accomplishments, but wish there was more opportunity to express creativity within #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @freeCodeCamp
  • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:41 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG For me, I want the writing process to be seen as the spiral. Revise, share, revise, share. It's never really done.
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:42 PM EST
    on a final note (you'll be sorry you asked) I love the tutorials that come with @MSMakeCode and #minecraftedu / #codebuilder - they have great tutorials and since the kids (and adult kids like me) are doing things in #minecraft it lends so well to modding, etc. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @MSMakeCode
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:43 PM EST
    A5: I've seen students become activists when they find something they can directly impact in their neighborhood like @weareci students making a stop n' frisk app. I think that helped develop their voice and identity but @mrtomocon should chime in #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
      Q5: “Becoming fluent, whether with writing or coding, helps you to develop your thinking, develop your voice, and develop your identity.” What kind of evidence do we have of this, either anecdotally or from research? #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:43 PM EST
    Play more. Let them examine the games, tweak them. Look at circuitry, physical computing, sensors, give them a reason to code. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @ChibiBeckyG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
    Q6: Speaking of identity @mres talks about his concept of self as someone who can “make and create things” changed as he began to work on projects. How do we change the culture to encourage students to be makers or producers and not consumers? #lifelongKDG
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
    I tried the initial sample projects but appreciated it starts with encouraging students to build a story. As seems like a great way to stretch + challenge would then be getting them to make their own short story based off the project. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
    and the power of having students blog to provide them with that authentic audience is quite powerful. Love having students publish their work - build their portfolio You can find a lot of my student work at https://t.co/hRbHR7O9bu #lifelongKDG
    • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:39 PM EST
      A5: Blogging! This has absolutely grounded my feet to the ground and put clarity to my vision and mission. I love the idea of putting thoughts down and sharing it with the world. I'm still waiting for the day that someone will disagree. It's that powerful. #lifelongkdg
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
    so empowering!! #lifelongKDG #stuvoice
    • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:43 PM EST
      A5: I've seen students become activists when they find something they can directly impact in their neighborhood like @weareci students making a stop n' frisk app. I think that helped develop their voice and identity but @mrtomocon should chime in #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
        Q5: “Becoming fluent, whether with writing or coding, helps you to develop your thinking, develop your voice, and develop your identity.” What kind of evidence do we have of this, either anecdotally or from research? #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:45 PM EST
    I really like #swiftplayground I also like @codeorg. Finally @tickleapp is quite good. Then there's #kibo #cubetto too. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs, @codeorg, @codeorg, @tickleapp
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:45 PM EST
    Ah - I was working with kids in the game design track so not sure about the other activities #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:46 PM EST
    The answer is always PLAY MORE :) #lifelongKDG #games4ed #powerofplay
    In reply to @mrterborg, @KCintheNYC, @ChibiBeckyG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:46 PM EST
    Yes, but to an extent. There are reasons for both roles. #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @ericaeducator, @mr_isaacs
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:46 PM EST
    Ooh - what are #kibo and #cubetto #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mrterborg, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:47 PM EST
    I think it’s two-fold.. having idea then running with it to the end.. what @DonWettrick calls entrepreneurship #pedagogy #LifeLongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
      so empowering!! #lifelongKDG #stuvoice
      • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:43 PM EST
        A5: I've seen students become activists when they find something they can directly impact in their neighborhood like @weareci students making a stop n' frisk app. I think that helped develop their voice and identity but @mrtomocon should chime in #lifelongKDG
        • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:36 PM EST
          Q5: “Becoming fluent, whether with writing or coding, helps you to develop your thinking, develop your voice, and develop your identity.” What kind of evidence do we have of this, either anecdotally or from research? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:47 PM EST
    YES! #lifelongkdg
    • dianagentile_1 Mar 8 @ 7:37 PM EST
      And it’s important to teach our kids that there is more than “one” correct way to problem solve, learn, and create! It’s a new world.
      In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:48 PM EST
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:48 PM EST
    A6: Providing opportunities for them to create, giving them some beginner options or starter ideas. And as mentioned, there has to be an audience to publish to! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:48 PM EST
    Don is the man! #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:49 PM EST
    KIBO came out of @TuftsDevTech Built on Papert's LOGO and #lifelongKDG's work. Robot for early childhood and younger. Cubetto is for that age too. Both are screenless, block based coding.
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:49 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @ChibiBeckyG, @mr_isaacs
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:50 PM EST
    Have you tried the EdisonBot? Just learned about it and it seems great and affordable! #lifelongKDG https://t.co/eyl6EXahNq
    In reply to @mrterborg, @mr_isaacs, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:51 PM EST
    Would anyone like to co-moderate next week's chat? I will be travelling and would love for someone to co-host with the awesome @KCintheNYC #lifelongkdg
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:51 PM EST
    i've heard of them but don't have one (yet) #lifelongkdg @EdisonRobots
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mrterborg, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech, @EdisonRobots
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
    Q7: As we help students develop ideas for projects, how do we help them “begin to see the possibility for contributing actively to society.” How do we make meaningful real-world connections in the classroom? #lifelongKDG
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
    Haven't tried it. Want to. Heard it's good but @MeetEdison may have had a few issues in the first iteration. #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @mr_isaacs, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech, @MeetEdison
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A6a What do your students feel passionate about? Once found lessons/activities/assessments should revolve around it.. +
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
    Q6: Ts need to ask better questions. @katiemartinedu says "Authentic learning is often at odds with the expectations placed on many teachers to cover, assess, & document achievement based on the standards and accountability systems." We need to give students agency. #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
      Q6: Speaking of identity @mres talks about his concept of self as someone who can “make and create things” changed as he began to work on projects. How do we change the culture to encourage students to be makers or producers and not consumers? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
    very cool! I will surely be checking out KIBO - I'm a huge fan of LOGO and Papert! #lifelongKDG In fact, there's part of me that is wondering if we need to have a book chat on Mindstorms... Thoughts?
    In reply to @mrterborg, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • urbie Mar 8 @ 7:53 PM EST
    #LifeLongKDG A6b Context matters. Express context [how standard will be evidenced] so students can play with how they might w/their passion.
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:54 PM EST
    Check out https://t.co/moOSjHFFqW #lifelongkdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • KCintheNYC Mar 8 @ 7:55 PM EST
    Oh, I like that. Any examples of how to do it? Baby steps for newbies? #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @maeward2311, @katiemartinedu
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:55 PM EST
    A7: I am very taken by the informal learning movement- @youtube , wikis, etc. I have kids learn from them and have kids contribute tutorial videos, @snapguide etc. back to the learning community - our class youtube channel has many https://t.co/NgYTHJECqV #lifelongkdg
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:55 PM EST
    Any reason to buy and read a new book and I'm in! #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mrterborg, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:56 PM EST
    A7: Teach to global competency where culture comes first instead of an afterthought. They can create connections and Ts can also prepare students to anticipate differences. The more connections they can make the easier it is for them to identify gaps and contribute #lifelongKDG
    • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
      Q7: As we help students develop ideas for projects, how do we help them “begin to see the possibility for contributing actively to society.” How do we make meaningful real-world connections in the classroom? #lifelongKDG
  • kit_haines Mar 8 @ 7:56 PM EST
    A6: When given space to play in areas that they design/choose, students are naturally inclined to become creators. Combine this freedom with direction from T's, students are able to fully realise their potential as producers. #lifelongKDG
  • ChibiBeckyG Mar 8 @ 7:56 PM EST
    I'm still learning and kind of moving from structure to maybe less of it. I did go off beaten track last year with some nice results. If I started over I would def go with something a bit more exploration based than linear #lifelongKDG.
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:56 PM EST
    couldn't agree more! Agency is SO important #personalizedlearning #lifelongkdg
    • maeward2311 Mar 8 @ 7:52 PM EST
      Q6: Ts need to ask better questions. @katiemartinedu says "Authentic learning is often at odds with the expectations placed on many teachers to cover, assess, & document achievement based on the standards and accountability systems." We need to give students agency. #lifelongKDG
      • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:44 PM EST
        Q6: Speaking of identity @mres talks about his concept of self as someone who can “make and create things” changed as he began to work on projects. How do we change the culture to encourage students to be makers or producers and not consumers? #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:57 PM EST
    I don't read much but this whole social constructivist approach to reading is really working for me :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mpilakow, @mrterborg, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:57 PM EST
    Consume to produce. Remix. Look up https://t.co/p80BBB07dC #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @KCintheNYC, @maeward2311, @katiemartinedu
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:58 PM EST
    Outro: Name / Location / role / Action you plan to take to incorporate something from the chat into your practice #lifelongKDG
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:58 PM EST
    Sounds like you captured the essence of @mres book right here :) #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @kit_haines, @mres
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:58 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG
    • KronbergToolbox Mar 8 @ 7:56 PM EST
      I agree. We need to scaffold. The consumer "program" is an old one and hard to break
      In reply to @mpilakow, @mr_isaacs, @mres
  • mpilakow Mar 8 @ 7:59 PM EST
    Have a great night all! Feel free to join us at #games4ed next! Melissa from Nebraska, 11-12 ELA. Action: Focus on making all units based on student creation #lifelongKdg
    In reply to @mr_isaacs
  • mrterborg Mar 8 @ 7:59 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG
    In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mpilakow, @KCintheNYC, @codeorg, @tickleapp, @TuftsDevTech
  • mr_isaacs - Moderator Mar 8 @ 7:59 PM EST
    #lifelongKDG
    • WesthallJo Mar 8 @ 7:55 PM EST
      Hi! I teach Computer Science in Grades K-5 working with @sepjrnyc . My college professor for Science Ed was ironically also my Kindergarten teacher many years later. I took it as a sign I was in the right place. 💡Making closed circuits with aluminum foil.
      In reply to @mr_isaacs, @mres, @sepjrnyc