#sblchat Archive

Wednesday October 4, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Good evening and welcome to our Standards Based Learning and Grading chat! Please start intros...name, role, location #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Rik in MA, psyched to co-moderate #sblchat now alongside our loyal and faithful @garnet_hillman and our tireless Crew! Join us NOW!!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    I'm Garnet, a consultant and writer from the Chicagoland area. Always pleased to co-moderate with my good friend @RoweRikW! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    @DaveWheeler11 Dave, hoping you'll join your #sblchat Crew now!
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Mariana, sped coordinator in Mexico City #sblchat
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Liz, ELA teacher and instructional coach in CA #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Good evening Mariana! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Mariana, welcome to your #sblchat Crew!
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Hi Liz! #sblchat
    In reply to @Wells_edu
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Liz, nice to have you with us in #sblchat Tonight!
    In reply to @Wells_edu
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Dave Wheeler, elem principal, Thompson, ND #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Hello #sblchat! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Mollie! STEM Algebra teacher, Grapevine, Texas! Happy to be here!! In year 4 of my personal sbl experience! #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Kathy Howe visiting from Houston to learn about SBL. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Glad to have you along Dave! #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Yes, Dave is here! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    We're glad you're here! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • Fridays85 Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Mark, middle school principal, South Dakota #sblchat
  • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Pete Sullivan Supt in suburban Chicago. Hopeful Blackhawks fan. Bears fan who has entered 4th step of death and dying. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Thank you @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Thrilled to welcome my co-moderator from last week! #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
      Hello #sblchat! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Good evening Mollie! #sblchat
    In reply to @sheridanteach
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Ashley, 4th grade teacher in WV. #SBLchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Welcome Kathy! #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1
  • teddylynn24 Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Ted. Curriculum Coordinator. Sm, rural school. Central CA. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Mollie! I teach #MHSAlgebra also! #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
      Mollie! STEM Algebra teacher, Grapevine, Texas! Happy to be here!! In year 4 of my personal sbl experience! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Kathy, so pleased to welcome you! #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Pete! But how about those Cubs?!? ;) #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Mark! #sblchat
    In reply to @Fridays85
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Ashley! #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Greetings, #sblchat Erik, curriculum director from Illinois.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    We have six questions for your consideration tonight. Please respond with A1, A2, etc and don't forget the hashtag! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Like this tweet if you're new to #sblchat so we can welcome you to tonight's discussion on behaviors in Standards-Based Learning.
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hey #sblchat, Tom Schimmer (author, speaker) from Vancouver, BC, checking in tonight from Moscow, ID. (Boo Vandals) #GoBroncos #atAssess
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Tonight's #sblchat Crew should liven you up!
    • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:02 PM EDT
      Pete Sullivan Supt in suburban Chicago. Hopeful Blackhawks fan. Bears fan who has entered 4th step of death and dying. #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Steve from Urbandale, Curriculum Facilitator. Multi tasking but didn't want to miss the best chat of the week #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Glad you are with us tonight Erik! #sblchat
    In reply to @Erik_Youngman
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi Ashley, Greetings! #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi Tom, thanks for joining us! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Welcome Ted, to a large Crew! #sblchat
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi everyone! Garth Larson- Director of Learning in Winneconne, WI and President of FIRST Educational Resources. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    We have 6 questions tonight as Q1, Q2, Q3. Kindly respond with A1, A2, A3. Be sure to include #sblchat so all can follow our conversation.
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Jaye. English teacher in WI. Hi everyone! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Aw, thanks Steve! We are glad you could join us! #sblchat
    In reply to @Meffscience
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Erik, we're in great company with you here! Welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @Erik_Youngman
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Awesome to have you with us, Tom! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi Garth! Thanks for joining #sblchat tonight.
    In reply to @LarsonGarth
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    With incredible Friends still gathering... Welcome Steve! #sblchat
    • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:04 PM EDT
      Steve from Urbandale, Curriculum Facilitator. Multi tasking but didn't want to miss the best chat of the week #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Good evening Jaye! #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Becky. HS English in the western suburbs of Chicago #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Garth, we're pleased to greet you! #sblchat
    • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:05 PM EDT
      Hi everyone! Garth Larson- Director of Learning in Winneconne, WI and President of FIRST Educational Resources. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Hi Becky! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Q1 What behaviors are often included in a traditional academic grade? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Kindly welcome Bridget {@BrysonBridget} to #sblchat Tonight!
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Glad you are with us, Tom. #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    New to this chat! Trying to get feedback done on work tonight, didn’t want to miss this tho! Bridget from GA #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Join me in welcoming Laurie {@northlsimpson} to our #sblchat Crew tonight!
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 - Unfortunately, traditional grades lower Student success with "late" learning, missed HW, and low initial test scores. #sblchat #STOPIT
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 Assignment completion, being timely with deadlines, class participation, arriving to class on time, parent signatures… #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Welcome Jaye! #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1) Responsibility, effort, time management would be 3 that jump out at me right away. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Great to see you, Becky! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Thanks Erik! #sblchat
    In reply to @Erik_Youngman
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: punctuality, meeting deadlines, listening, paperwork #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 behaviors such as participation, being able to follow instructions, good behavior per se #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    And we're off!! #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Chris from Seekonk here for the first time tonight! HS Principal looking forward to some learning. #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Doug from Boston joining a bit late - good evening everyone. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Glad to be hear, Rik! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Late work, but I don't follow that policy. I have no late grades and re-writes for everything. #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: Neatness, meeting deadlines, participation, attendance, responsibility, kleenex, behaviors, etc #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Good evening Doug, thanks for joining us! #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 Participation, cooperation, timeliness ... effort. Sigh. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 Grading for compliance does not communicate that learning is the most important feature in the classroom. #sblchat
  • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1. Compliance (or noncompliance) are the behaviors most often reflected outside of learning targets. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Let's all welcome Lisa {@lisahillenburg} to our #sblchat Crew tonight!
  • drorzel Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Courtney Orzel, Supt, #sd113a, #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Oh, the Kleenex ... #sblchat
    In reply to @Meffscience
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Bridget, you've come to the right place for inspiration! #sblchat
    • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:07 PM EDT
      New to this chat! Trying to get feedback done on work tonight, didn’t want to miss this tho! Bridget from GA #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Kirk here from the Chicago Northshore. Teacher of double accelerated math in a flipped classroom. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Hello there friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    RT Q1 What behaviors are often included in a traditional academic grade? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Check this out! #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: punctuality, responsibility, work ethic, and behvioral compliance can (traditionally) impact a grade (directly or indirectly) #sblchat
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: Behaviors often included in traditional grades are participation, punctuality, following directions and/or rules #sblchat
  • teddylynn24 Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Late work grade reduction. Missing assignment 0s. That immediatelydraw my ire. #sblchat
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1: Unfortunately, I've seen attendance, homework completion, attitude, effort, how often a student smiles & everything in between! #sblchat
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 In traditional grading, compliance, punctuality, and dare I say "speed" of learning is accounted for. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Chris, looking for Learning? You've come to the right place! #sblchat
    • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      Chris from Seekonk here for the first time tonight! HS Principal looking forward to some learning. #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 participation, effort and other behavior grades are not typically reported separate for traditional grades #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Cheating, refusing to do work, doing class duties (helping erase the board) for extra credit... #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Participation, behavior, HW, and test grades based on subjective measures. Mastery is understanding, not completing homework. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    And the Red Carpet rolls out for @DouglasReeves #sblchat
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Responsibility, following heading procedures, neatness, compliance #SBLchat
  • drorzel Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Focusing on behaviors vs. what Ss know and are able to do #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    God Bless you! #sneezing #sblchat
    • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A1: Neatness, meeting deadlines, participation, attendance, responsibility, kleenex, behaviors, etc #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: more about what’s taken out than included. I see points lost for late, no name, etc. It blows my mind, but is still happens #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: Completion is another one. Gaining some credit for doing instead of the quality of performance. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Welcome back, Courtney! #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Great wording regarding "late" learning. #sblchat
    • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A1 - Unfortunately, traditional grades lower Student success with "late" learning, missed HW, and low initial test scores. #sblchat #STOPIT
  • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1. I think it's important that for every behavior used to inflate grades, there is an opposite behavior often used to deflate them #sblchat
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Compliance is a popular response. I guess that is an umbrella term. I agree! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Crazy stuff...so #STOPIT #sblchat
    • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      A1: Unfortunately, I've seen attendance, homework completion, attitude, effort, how often a student smiles & everything in between! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Ouch!! #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      A1 In traditional grading, compliance, punctuality, and dare I say "speed" of learning is accounted for. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    -5 for no name makes me crazy. I'm trying a no-late points policy this year. Colleagues are annoyed. #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1: Students' willingness 2 complete work within the rules based on what is deemed important rather than creating what's important. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    Agree - we have to be careful to look for both sides of grading inaccuracy. #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1. It’s not just grading down for non-compliance that hurts. It’s grading up when students are nice but not proficient. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    #MindBlown and learning also maybe... #sblchat
    • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      A1: more about what’s taken out than included. I see points lost for late, no name, etc. It blows my mind, but is still happens #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1: How about points off for using pen instead of pencil?? #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1 We forgot to mention extra credit like bringing in Kleenex boxes... #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I had forgotten about that one... #sblchat
    In reply to @Meffscience
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Kathy, you are NOT crazy... #sblchat #Humor
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      -5 for no name makes me crazy. I'm trying a no-late points policy this year. Colleagues are annoyed. #sblchat
      In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    The fallout for taking away a late policy can be large. Hang in there. It's worth it. #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      -5 for no name makes me crazy. I'm trying a no-late points policy this year. Colleagues are annoyed. #sblchat
      In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    John - MS principal from Mayville, WI finally catching up with #sblchat Glad to finally be back again.
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Let's focus on what matters... #sblchat
    • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:13 PM EDT
      A1: Students' willingness 2 complete work within the rules based on what is deemed important rather than creating what's important. #sblchat
  • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I worry about both sides, but fear more harm is done to the kid who has mastered content but does not smile for the camera. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    It opens a great conversation with your colleagues about what is the meaning/purpose of a grade! I love to start there! #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1, @_Ashley_Torres
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I didn't see this coming... #sblchat
    • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      A1. It’s not just grading down for non-compliance that hurts. It’s grading up when students are nice but not proficient. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    I like my kids to use pen in math. Then they can't erase when they are unsure of themselves and I can see their thinking. #sblchat
    In reply to @Meffscience
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    John Miller, Head of an international American school in Mexico City, currently attending #triconf17 in #CostaRica #PuraVida #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Q2 Share examples of how behavioral grading can be used in a punitive manner. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Get the lead out, Steve! #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A1) Sounds like there are multiple pieces of subjectivity in tradtional grading that tell us nothing about learning. #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    I refuse to penalize students for doing work. Drives my peers crazy. And letting them fix mistakes and keep learning... “Gasp!” #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1, @_Ashley_Torres
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A2: You took three extra days to turn in an incredible assignment. It's awesome, but 15 points off for being late. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #STOPIT - You know how this pushes me over the edge... #sblchat #Humor
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Discussed it with admin and they're ready to back me up, so i'm going for it! #sblchat #nolatepoints
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 - Things to #STOPIT - When Students are punished by missed or late learning, or poor judgment during tests, grades tumble. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 Reduced grades for turning in work late - we want to report accurate proficiency levels, not ones deflated by tardiness. #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2. Schools value “risk-taking” and “productive failure” - but the sins of September are averaged into the grade in December. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    I think this happens so often. I can't tell you how many times I've heard 'He knows it but doesn't do the hw so he gets a C'. #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    John, we're pleased to welcome you! #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
      John - MS principal from Mayville, WI finally catching up with #sblchat Glad to finally be back again.
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    My son just refused extra credit. He wanted to know what his "real" grade would be on an assessment...#sblchat. A lot of buy in to "real"...
    In reply to @Erik_Youngman
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2) losing points for late work, giving zeros, losing recess time for unfinished assignments. #sblchat
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Kathy! You are speaking my language!! It also helps reinforce that mistakes are ok! Don't erase them! #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1, @Meffscience
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2: If you don't (insert compliance behavior) your grade will go down. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Educators, please take note... #sblchat
    • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:15 PM EDT
      I worry about both sides, but fear more harm is done to the kid who has mastered content but does not smile for the camera. #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2: Getting a 0 for not turning in an assignment. Grading compliance is rampant in education. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    My whole first year teaching you could get an A just for following the directions. No learning required. Sigh. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A1: @myrondueck helped me see the light on keeping behavior and content knowledge in 2 buckets 4 the integrity of the assessment #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2 Penalizing students academically for not having supplies. #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: You aced the final test but you didn't do the assignments so you get a C #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Greetings, John! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2 Late work either severely docking the grade or not accepting it (making it a zero). #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2 Penalizing students academically for absences, suspensions, etc. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    RT Q2 Share examples of how behavioral grading can be used in a punitive manner. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    When grades are carrots and sticks rather than communication, we have created a game for our students that isn't learning centered. #sblchat
  • teddylynn24 Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2. Grade reduction... #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    @willcountry92 Respectful dissent: Real harm is done by the “good girl” effect - high grades for low performance with a smile. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Overcoming fear of mistakes must be done intentionally, lovingly, and daily! #sblchat #growthmindset
    In reply to @sheridanteach, @Meffscience
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2. Computing final grade by including effort and participation rather than focusing on academic skills. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A little Daniel Pink in this comment. I love it!!! #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      When grades are carrots and sticks rather than communication, we have created a game for our students that isn't learning centered. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2. When teachers deny SS the opportunity to explain, to share ideas, to try because they don't "behave" #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Daily effort points (0-10) averaged into final grade in art. Is final grade based on art skills or effort during those 45 minutes? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Please stop this madness... #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      I think this happens so often. I can't tell you how many times I've heard 'He knows it but doesn't do the hw so he gets a C'. #sblchat
      In reply to @WillCounty92
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: Late work is the classic. A behavioral misstep=academic penalty is illogical. Same as academic misstep=behavioral penalty #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2. Decreasing grade because of student participation. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Binder check - lose points for missing papers or not organized. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: S writing in a Google doc was not perfect by the deadline and T using version history to grade the draft instead of best work #sblchat
  • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2-burns me to hear satisfaction in T voice “That’ll teach him” what’s the lesson? Power with grades jst teaches S ‘play the game’ #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: incredible paper for your assignment. Charts/graphs and everything. Too bad you are getting 10 points off for neatness. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    I was such a good gamer during my years as a student... #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Oh, we make lots of mistakes every day due to all the risks we take... #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      Overcoming fear of mistakes must be done intentionally, lovingly, and daily! #sblchat #growthmindset
      In reply to @sheridanteach, @Meffscience
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: The dreaded zero which is either mathematical ignorance or an attempt to destroy a Ss chance of learning for the marking period #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Ah yes, because that helps students become more organized! ;) #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1
  • KenWallace207 Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Words of wisdom from an OG innovator people #sblchat
    • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      A2. Schools value “risk-taking” and “productive failure” - but the sins of September are averaged into the grade in December. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Well, that could be attributed to valuing both process and product, right? In my class the answer is 1 point, the work is the rest. #sblchat
    In reply to @JohnSchlender
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: No second chances. The lack of opportunity to show learning by re-doing can be punitive. #latelearning #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    @DanielPink and @alfiekohn #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: Negative behaviors are often the result of external or internal factors. Grades should measure understanding, not behavior. #sblchat
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Hattie's minimax effect! What's the minimum effort for the maximum grade? #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: See “The Getting Them Ready Myth” https://t.co/1sYJurYQxB #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2 Letting students who have support at home inflate their grade via homework or daily assignments #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Do we hear "power hungry"...? #sblchat
    • BrysonBridget Oct 4 @ 9:20 PM EDT
      A2-burns me to hear satisfaction in T voice “That’ll teach him” what’s the lesson? Power with grades jst teaches S ‘play the game’ #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    It’s as though we want to see how inaccurate the grade can be! #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2. Behavioral difficulties may be a consequence for a learning problem. We have to be careful #sblchat
  • swvhsprin Oct 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Where is this chat archived? #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Wow - I haven't heard of revision history being used as an academic punishment before! #sblchat
    In reply to @Wells_edu
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    Ouch! #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A2: So many of these are teacher-centered - trying to force compliance behavior because it makes our job easier. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    I will send out the storify shortly after the chat. #sblchat
    In reply to @swvhsprin, @RoweRikW
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    I've definitely heard of it being used to see if changes were made after the "deadline" passed. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @Wells_edu
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    No, not this also... #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      A2 Letting students who have support at home inflate their grade via homework or daily assignments #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Q3 How can deadlines be enforced if they are not included in a grade? #sblchat
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A2:Behavior,or lack there of,has no direct correlation w undrstnding. Many g8 ideas r trapped inside of those who dnt write "neat" #SBLchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    I think a lot of people don't know how to do it any other way. 3+ days late = 0 is common at my school... 1/2 #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Dinner changes made me late for #sblchat but just made me hungrier to learn from this pln!
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Just #STOPIT #sblchat
    • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      A2: So many of these are teacher-centered - trying to force compliance behavior because it makes our job easier. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    That illusion of 'making our lives easier' is illogical to me. Complex algorithms to include behaviors in grades is not easier. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A3) with honest conversations with students. Also, move deadlines to the end of class time rather than letting work leave school. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 Determine deadlines together with students - the ownership creates buy-in. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 - Since we know learning takes more time for some, we "suggest" when the learning should occur, but accommodate. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    ... and they say I'm not teaching responsibility if I accept student work late w/o assessing a penalty. #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2: A better solution for missing tests and assignments and endless retakes - the “menu system” - “Elements of Grading” (2nd ed.) #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Yes. This. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Exactly! Students don't know less b/c they turn it in after expected. Lower score? That's what we're saying. Validity issue! #sblchat
    In reply to @mexusmx, @DouglasReeves
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: Have students justify why they need more time so they learn to manage time and not just make excuses. #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    Yes! And we have to ask what is easier about having Ss intimidated and fearful of taking risks and asking the important ?s #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    We offer countless opportunities FOR the Learning! Always! #sblchat
    • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      Rik, I'd love to hear more.
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    This makes me think of the T as a "keeper of the knowledge.. you must go through me"... rather than a facilitator of learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3. Working more towards responsibility, showing the importance of it. No being persecuted #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 In general, students want to meet deadlines. For those who don’t, have a convo to find out why and make a plan. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 - The only deadlines we enforce are ends of marking periods, but otherwise, we #MakeLearningPersonal and accommodate Learners. #sblchat
  • swvhsprin Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Awesome - thank you! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Yes, that's the ticket! #sblchat
    • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:25 PM EDT
      Dinner changes made me late for #sblchat but just made me hungrier to learn from this pln!
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3: My deadlines look like natural consequences. Didn't do your learning check? Then you won't have it to help on open note quiz. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    This one really upsets me! #sblchat
    In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Validity in assessment is a huge problem that is rarely discussed much less addressed! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @DouglasReeves
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 - To make grades meaningful, we empower Learners to stay in our #Flow of Learning. Learning is always "on time"! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    RT Q3 How can deadlines be enforced if they are not included in a grade? #sblchat
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Agreed...while ensuring the students are ready and prepared to meet those deadlines. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3: communication. Most of my Ss WANT a deadline - if they miss it - there is a reason. I just want to know the reason! #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3: Everyone has things come up that makes us miss deadlines. Maybe teachers should be docked pay when they are late to a meeting #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    BAM!! #sblchat
    • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A3: Have students justify why they need more time so they learn to manage time and not just make excuses. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 I talk about how nobody wants to feel behind. Also do a healthy amount of 'it's due when you are done' (HT to @RESP3CTtheGAME) #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    That's why I don't "stop" taking late papers. It's never too late to learn in my room! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3: About homework deadlines: Having a chaotic home life is not a character defect for the student. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    We encourage so much Collaborative Questioning during each class. #sblchat
    • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      Yes! And we have to ask what is easier about having Ss intimidated and fearful of taking risks and asking the important ?s #sblchat
      In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    This by our amazing Kathy! #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:28 PM EDT
      That's why I don't "stop" taking late papers. It's never too late to learn in my room! #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3. If we’re serious about getting work done, then let’s do it in class - less lecture, more work. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3:Ts & professionals meet deadlines all the time with no grade or extra pay for doing so. Why do we think kids would be different? #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Having parents who can't support the work or cooking your own meals also shouldn't penalize learning. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3: Make 'em do it that day. Redefine accountability to mean "all essential learning is mandatory"; respond expeditiously. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3: As an English teacher it's not like I'm assessing 100 essays in an evening...get it to me when I get to read Something GOOD #sblchat
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3:If deadlines are missed,find out the reason and reset the expectation.We all have deadlines &learning time management is a skill #SBLchat
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3: our schools assess lifeskills and behaviors separate from academic achievement & deadlines fall under "Work to Do Your Best" #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Choices about How proficiency will be demonstrated include When proficiency will be demonstrated. Choice promotes empowerment. #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3: start with engaging assignments and Ss are more likely to meet the deadline without coercion #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Can you say "bottleneck"? #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      This makes me think of the T as a "keeper of the knowledge.. you must go through me"... rather than a facilitator of learning. #sblchat
      In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3 communicate a deadline, but allow students to turn in work late if they request it or explain why the estension is needed. #sblchat
  • cocopoppa Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Yes, there is one end, the others are pit-stops for repair. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Totally agree - if the student isn't proud of the quality of work then I don't want it! #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Let's make the learning relevant!! #sblchat
    • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A3: start with engaging assignments and Ss are more likely to meet the deadline without coercion #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3: Give Ss deadlines, have conversations, + require explanations 4 more time. Move forward + set up extra learning time 4 the Ss. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3: Create a culture where it is "less work to do the work" b/c missed deadline=my teachers/admin spring into action! Don't wait! #sblchat
  • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3: clarify with Ss and Ps what the deadline is for — Why is the deadline important? (Hopefully not to dictate pace of learning!) #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    If we insist on techniques that worked for teachers, ask: How many of your students do you expect to become teachers? #sblchat
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Nice idea, but not every student can respond expeditiously. They need think and process time. Depends on the task, of course. #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      A3: Make 'em do it that day. Redefine accountability to mean "all essential learning is mandatory"; respond expeditiously. #sblchat
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3 We work more off a checklist rather than hard deadline. We set goals and then work on them! But I am bound by 9 weeks. #sblchat
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3: Don't forget to provide opportunities for those struggling to manage life and school work. Give support before/after/lunch #SBLchat
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    When in reality we should get out of the way of their learning. #sblchat
    • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      Can you say "bottleneck"? #sblchat
      • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM EDT
        This makes me think of the T as a "keeper of the knowledge.. you must go through me"... rather than a facilitator of learning. #sblchat
        In reply to @BrysonBridget
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    The “real world” is not “get it right the first time” but “get feedback and improve it.” #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    This is my exact thought about "participation" grades. Give engaging assignments and they will participate! #sblchat https://t.co/Kfmnri4vEh
    In reply to @mexusmx
    • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A3: start with engaging assignments and Ss are more likely to meet the deadline without coercion #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3 if a student has not submitted work on time, an incomplete place holder should be the grade rather than a grade-killing 0. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    ...and reliability. It seems some believe that b/c they are grading they can throw all assessment principles/fundamental out. #sblchat
    In reply to @mexusmx, @DouglasReeves
  • donsmithedu Oct 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A3:The old expression is, the consequence for not doing the work is doing the work. Students will do the work if it isn't an option #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    A3: The key is to understand. Set the year, build a plan w/Ss to get to the goal, and help them stay on pace. Buy-in = engagement. #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Definitely not 100% but then you are more likely to have a meaningful convo about the why and can support the S’s learning #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Q4 In a situation of academic dishonesty, should there be academic consequences? Behavioral consequences? Both? Explain. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Yes. Opting out of learning is not an option. #sblchat
    In reply to @donsmithedu
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Time to process, ponder, and reflect! Huge! #sblchat
    • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      Nice idea, but not every student can respond expeditiously. They need think and process time. Depends on the task, of course. #sblchat
      • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:29 PM EDT
        A3: Make 'em do it that day. Redefine accountability to mean "all essential learning is mandatory"; respond expeditiously. #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    A3 Ts need to know which learners struggle with deadlines and intentionally teach skills and strategies to help them succeed #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 - When we have academic dishonesty, we aim to talk about the reason why to get to the source. Once understood, we re-assess. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 No academic consequences except that you do not have valid evidence of proficiency. Reassessment is a must. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    If there is not an academic consequence then I would say the work must be redone somehow. And there should be behav. conseq. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • hanhosch Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Students need to be intrinsically motivated, we do this with meaningful & relevant learning opportunities Grades motivate very few #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    If a 'can't do' then deadlines not the issue. If a 'didn't do' then make 'em. Also consider 'infrequent oir chronic' #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4) Don't believe there should be an "academic" consequence but definite behavior piece. We still need learning to occur so plan B #sblchat
  • donsmithedu Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: Cheating is a behavior. Students should have to reassess the academics, and have consequences for the behavior. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: I think in most situations there should be a behavioral consequence - but not an academic one. But first figure out the WHY #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 Behavioral consequences can be applied to a case of cheating - there are usually protocols for this in school handbooks. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 - After academic dishonesty has been understood, we re-assess for full understanding and full credit. We want the learning! #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Yes! In an open, trusting (risk-taking supported) learning community it may be very responsible if the student to admit they’re not ready! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4:The "punishment" would be to do it again to prove understanding. We can sit down & talk but in the end, you're doing it again. #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4: As @rickwormeli2 says the punishment is that you do the work. Discuss the why for the dishonesty to get to the root cause. #sblchat
  • Fridays85 Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 Consequence=doing the work, behavior consequence could be assigned #sblchat
  • cocopoppa Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A3 Partnerships with families 2 keep all on point. it doesn't work for all - that's what is so hard yet important - to not give up #sblchat
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Comes back to relationships...the heart of #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:34 PM EDT
      A3 Ts need to know which learners struggle with deadlines and intentionally teach skills and strategies to help them succeed #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 Figure out why the dishonesty happened in the first place. Then do the work. And do it right. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    I so love the way you phrased that. It makes it sound non-judgemental, which can be difficult in situations like dishonesty. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4: I’ve worked with students who do not know what “plagiarism” is. When I explain that it is stealing, they are thunderstruck. #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    In other words, the same thing we do for adults! 😇 #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4. I would begin with a talk regarding why. Then a reflection hoping to have a behavioral and academic change #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    RT Q4 In a situation of academic dishonesty, should there be academic consequences? Behavioral consequences? Both? Explain. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Know the "why" by @simonsinek #sblchat
    • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      A4: I think in most situations there should be a behavioral consequence - but not an academic one. But first figure out the WHY #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4: Depends on the level of understanding the student has Repetitive problem v. teachable moment. Our responsibility is to educate. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    The purpose of assessment is to gather evidence of learning. If a S cheats - no evidence. Behavioral consequence and reassess. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    So key FOR Learning... #sblchat
    • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      Yes! In an open, trusting (risk-taking supported) learning community it may be very responsible if the student to admit they’re not ready! #sblchat
      In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • _Ashley_Torres Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4: Behavior consequence should trump that of the academic. Ss should be required to redo under supervision of Ts. #SBLchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 dishonest students should write a reflection about what they did and complete a similar assignment. #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 behavioural. I mean who hasn’t copied from a book (or a peer) as a youth - I know I wasn’t the only one - but learned/evolved better over time! #sblchat
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 What does an academic consequence prove to the student? I still want them to learn the content. It would be a conversation. #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4: Penalty for plagiarism correct citations. “According to Dr. Sarah Jones . . “ is citation. Otherwise, it’s plagiarism. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Sorry Jaye, but more than a 'nice idea.' Systems sustain effective practices; Ts need replacement routines for trad. responses. #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Grades motivate many to do the the work, but maybe not to learn...I wish it weren't so. Intrinsic motivation is what we strive for. #sblchat
    • hanhosch Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      Students need to be intrinsically motivated, we do this with meaningful & relevant learning opportunities Grades motivate very few #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4: Remedy for plagiarism is learning to do it right - not F’s and zeroes. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    There are so many things where "treat them like humans not children" is the appropriate answer. #sblchat https://t.co/gd8Fdre4Bs
    In reply to @technolandy, @garnet_hillman
    • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      In other words, the same thing we do for adults! 😇 #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • ehaan308 Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    I agree. The consequence academically is you still have to do the work, but students need to be held accountable for their actions. #sblchat
    • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      A4) Don't believe there should be an "academic" consequence but definite behavior piece. We still need learning to occur so plan B #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: Academic dishonesty is almost always the 2nd mistake made by a S. Consequences depend on Ss ability to reflect and learn. #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Au contraire / grades can be very motivating to figure out ways to cheat the system (great read: @YongZhaoEd Who’s Afraid of the big bad dragon) #sblchat
    In reply to @hanhosch, @YongZhaoEd
  • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: an academic consequence, such as a “0”, gives the S exactly what they intended do: get out of doing the work! #MakeThemDoIt #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: Let’s stop to ask what fear drives students to cheat? #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    THIS! #sblchat
    • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      A4: an academic consequence, such as a “0”, gives the S exactly what they intended do: get out of doing the work! #MakeThemDoIt #sblchat
  • cocopoppa Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    I'd back a no grade policy in your class with portfolio of work as artifact of learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    @SRoedel91 Thank you Shannon! #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4: Expect work independently, maybe even under supervision if chronic; deal w/ dishonesty the way dishonesty is always dealt with. #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Yes - hard on the issue, not the learner! #sblchat and focus on changing repeatin patterns onto growing ones!
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @JayeBarbeau
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4 My conversation would revolve around growth. If you're not an expert yet, that's ok. What are the next steps to get there? #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    So true for my Ss. I'm not writing grades on papers this year, to try to soften the link. Focus on improving the work, grade later. #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    common definitions, understanding and expectations are critical when holding students accountable and expecting excellence. #sblchat
    • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      A4: I’ve worked with students who do not know what “plagiarism” is. When I explain that it is stealing, they are thunderstruck. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Love your hashtag... #sblchat
    • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      A4: an academic consequence, such as a “0”, gives the S exactly what they intended do: get out of doing the work! #MakeThemDoIt #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Have found it is often procrastination (deadline), too much on their plate (stretched thin), or misunderstanding (mistake). #sblchat Empathy
    In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Articulate distinction of potential problems! #sblchat
    • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:37 PM EDT
      A4: Depends on the level of understanding the student has Repetitive problem v. teachable moment. Our responsibility is to educate. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A4. Having a teacher-student bond definitely helps with honesty and responsibility from both sides #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Having 'high expectations' and being 'tough' don't have to = 'punitive.' Stu rise to expectations as long as supported properly. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Very, very true! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Q5 What can teachers do to spark student engagement and participation without referencing academic grades? #sblchat
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    BINGO!!!! We have a winner : ) #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      Having 'high expectations' and being 'tough' don't have to = 'punitive.' Stu rise to expectations as long as supported properly. #sblchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    This! #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      Having 'high expectations' and being 'tough' don't have to = 'punitive.' Stu rise to expectations as long as supported properly. #sblchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4: never on the academic side...and always first seek to understand before seek to punish! #sblchat
  • donsmithedu Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A4: How many S's cheat on an assignment that was relevant to them? Maybe we as T's have to examine our tasks that lead to cheating. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    We all suffer from deadlines,being stretched thin,and making mistakes, we should all be able to empathize! #sblchat https://t.co/0ZhIKnk5kD
    In reply to @DrCSJones, @DouglasReeves
    • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM EDT
      Have found it is often procrastination (deadline), too much on their plate (stretched thin), or misunderstanding (mistake). #sblchat Empathy
      In reply to @DouglasReeves
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A5: Focus on the learning and not the grade. Take away the game of school. "It's all about the Learning" Students will get that #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 Student ownership of learning is essential to motivation. When they have autonomy - they engage. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 - To "spark Student engagement and participation", we empower our Learners to OWN their Learning while in the Driver's Seat. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Some poor grades today were followed by "Mr. Rowe, I know I disappointed you. Can you help me get better?" Yes! Yes! #sblchat
    • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      A4. Having a teacher-student bond definitely helps with honesty and responsibility from both sides #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5:Carol Dweck's philosophy on growth mindset has changed my classroom for the better! It's about continuously learning, not grades #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5: Give rich and interesting tasks they care about. Give choice. Ask their opinion. Let them think, speak, argue... #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 Focus on why we are learning it. Also give as much autonomy as possible. My Ss have autonomy over team, technique and time. #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Everyone who has never missed a deadline please stand and yell. I’m watching you! #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • cocopoppa Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 Go to @JayeBarbeau 's class! #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Identifying the cause is critical when creating a teachable moment and fostering a growth mindset. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    Seek first to understand... #sblchat
    • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      A4: never on the academic side...and always first seek to understand before seek to punish! #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    In my experience, it can be worse in the US. Seems to be more about the community’s expectation for college admissions #sblchat
    In reply to @mrsprebble84
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 - To "spark engagement", we encourage our Learners to Lead the Learning via Collaborative Questioning. We learn to trust & Grow! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 Not grading everything helps kids value the process and not fret about grades. This feeds motivation for learning. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5) Had this talk today w/a T of mine; focus on goal setting and growth specific to learning goals. Discussion regarding prof #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5: Communicate (and have an) intention and purpose for each assignment and show it is will help Ss learn and then repeat 1000x #sblchat
  • teddylynn24 Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    .@TomSchimmer #sblchat. I think chronic is critical. Our responses shld be measured whether any of the behaviors r chronic or occasional.
    In reply to @TomSchimmer, @TomSchimmer
  • WillCounty92 Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5. A heartfelt passion for learning is contagious. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Choice, Relevance, Meaning, ... #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
      A5: Give rich and interesting tasks they care about. Give choice. Ask their opinion. Let them think, speak, argue... #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • donsmithedu Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: have clear targets for the students to hit. If students have a clear path to success, they are more likely to pursue it #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    RT Q5 What can teachers do to spark student engagement and participation without referencing academic grades? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 The opportunity for reassessment promotes the idea that everyone will find success. Success breeds success! #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I believe many of our best liked Ts have the highest expectations. These expectations usually force convos between S and T. #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      Having 'high expectations' and being 'tough' don't have to = 'punitive.' Stu rise to expectations as long as supported properly. #sblchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 Student voice and student choice!!! Give them time to identify their weaknesses and opportunities to improve through options!! #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5. Getting to know their SS, their interests. Having a meaningful learning for life, not just the subject #sblchat
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: Build relationships, have high expectations, and design relevant lessons. Authentically model what they seek in students. #sblchat
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: See @tguskey site https://t.co/tc9NEoHkd6 for some great research on feedback vs. grading. #sblchat @TomSchimmer is great as well.
  • Meffscience Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    YES! YES! YES! #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      A5 Student voice and student choice!!! Give them time to identify their weaknesses and opportunities to improve through options!! #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Agree! That's why the cross-section of "Can't vs Didn't" and "Infrequent vs Chronic" are so critical. Allows /just right/ response. #sblchat
    In reply to @teddylynn24
  • JayeBarbeau Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Yes-high expectations and being a warm demander, but you have to allow students to pace their learning. It's a subtle difference. #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      Having 'high expectations' and being 'tough' don't have to = 'punitive.' Stu rise to expectations as long as supported properly. #sblchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @JayeBarbeau
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    One reason we are here now in #sblchat...
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5: Giving choice to Ss will naturally increase engagement. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Agreed. And love this. #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Yes! Let them see how much you enjoy being there and hearing their thoughts. Make sure they know you're glad to see them. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    #udlchat #sblchat
    • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      A5 Student voice and student choice!!! Give them time to identify their weaknesses and opportunities to improve through options!! #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5) it's really important for S's to understand that learning isn't done at the end of a chapter or an assignment. We keep trying. #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5: I tell my Ss that they are allowed and expected to challenge me on any assignment that doesn't seem worth their time #sblchat
  • LarsonGarth Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Exactly! We must always keep the door open for learning and success! #sblchat
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5 make learning meaningful, engaging, collaborative, authentic & differentiated that encourages innovation and critical thinking. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    It takes awhile for the students to change their language and talk about learning, but it will happen! #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5 Empower learners to become active participants in their learning leads to engagement. Learner Voice & Choice. #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Oct 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    If a teacher can successfully do these things, I seriously doubt disengagement is ever an issue. #sblchat
    • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      A5: Build relationships, have high expectations, and design relevant lessons. Authentically model what they seek in students. #sblchat
  • MrsChristyHild Oct 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Q5 - make learning authentic, relevant, and connected to student interests. #sblchat
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Yes! And Dwecks Mindsets have definitely influenced the descriptive feedback that I’ve given - no “grade” but articulated good, bad and area to work on next! (Or two stars and a wish to start!) #sblchat
    • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM EDT
      A5:Carol Dweck's philosophy on growth mindset has changed my classroom for the better! It's about continuously learning, not grades #sblchat
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A3: Ts should spend more time giving feedback than grading and give Ss class time to respond to feedback #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    So true, Eric! Nothing says "I believe in you" more than expecting (eventual) excellence. Some need more support, of course. #sblchat
    In reply to @ehaan308
  • MrsChristyHild Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5. Make learning authentic, relevant, and connected to student interests. Students talk more; teachers talk less. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Are you listening? #sblchat
    • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:49 PM EDT
      A3: Ts should spend more time giving feedback than grading and give Ss class time to respond to feedback #sblchat
  • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5: embrace the #LearningZone as a place where Ss can #FailForward; as a place free of judgement. make it their comfort zone. #sblchat
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Not only not grading, but providing feedback without any numerical value assigned! "Everything we do influences your knowledge" #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres, @garnet_hillman
  • technolandy Oct 4 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    This remains a Canadian concern as well / even though the engineering programs my daughter is applying to want a portfolio to show what she did, not just what she scored #sblchat
    In reply to @mexusmx, @mrsprebble84
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    We value feedback - so in classroom observations look for evidence of student response to feedback. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • TomSchimmer Oct 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Thanks Doug! Very kind and much appreciated! #sblchat
    In reply to @DouglasReeves, @tguskey
  • ehaan308 Oct 4 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Yes. No one likes busy work. We are annoyed when people waste our time, we should expect our Ss to be annoyed when we waste theirs. #sblchat
    • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:48 PM EDT
      A5: I tell my Ss that they are allowed and expected to challenge me on any assignment that doesn't seem worth their time #sblchat
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    It's promising that more higher ed programs are going that direction - should help shift the mindset #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @mexusmx
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Q6 How can grades/marks for behavior be determined and reported? #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Yeah, I'm listening to crickets chirp away the wee hours while I'm commenting on papers... sigh. Does it get faster? #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • DaveWheeler11 Oct 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    A6) With well written rubrics designed by those who are teaching the skills. We report them separately from academic side of R card #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6 I used behavioral strands from @tguskey and his book Developing Standards Based Report Cards with a 3 level scale. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6 - In our HS, there is no room in grades for behaviors! We grade Proficiency and communicate Behaviors to Parents. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    We provide feedback and colored stickers as a proficiency range to communicate. #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:52 PM EDT
      Yeah, I'm listening to crickets chirp away the wee hours while I'm commenting on papers... sigh. Does it get faster? #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • Erik_Youngman Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Thank you for a great #sblchat. Looking forward to continuing these beneficial discussions on subsequent Wednesdays!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    It does, and there are ways to make giving feedback more efficient...I think this may be our chat topic for next week! #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1, @RoweRikW
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6: Grading behavior: If late, call it “algebra”:. If disruptive, call it “algebra”. If dishonest, call it “algebra” #sblchat.
  • SciGeekJulie Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    Couldn't agree more! I always tell Ss I will NOT relax expectations but WILL help them reach them! #sblchat
    In reply to @Meffscience
  • mrsprebble84 Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6: As separate categories in the gradebook that don't calculate into the grade #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6 In my last district we used a 3 level scale (frequency of the behavior) and calling them Habits of Success. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    RT Q6 How can grades/marks for behavior be determined and reported? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6 - We don't have Standards-Based report cards yet, but we communicate behaviors to our Learners and their Parents. #sblchat #GoodCallsHome
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Great suggestion... #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM EDT
      It does, and there are ways to make giving feedback more efficient...I think this may be our chat topic for next week! #sblchat
      In reply to @kdhowe1, @RoweRikW
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Any resources on rubrics like that? My team is working to develop something and we're stuck. #sblchat
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A5 Include learners as Co Designers of the learning process makes it relevant for them. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6. Behavior should be described not graded. If a SS need support work on a specific intervention plan #sblchat
  • mrdyche Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6: carefully & collaboratively, and never communicated as part of the academic grade. #sblchat
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Can you DM me more about your communication system? #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • teddylynn24 Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A5. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    You bet... #sblchat
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
      Can you DM me more about your communication system? #sblchat
      In reply to @RoweRikW
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    Then I'll be here!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • sheridanteach Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 I have a 0% category for Professionalism which is based off a rubric. Ps can see it, but it doesn't affect their content grade. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6: Reporting to a separate set of criteria for behavior marks. Our district calls them "Habits of Success." #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    We will too! #sblchat #Humor
    • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:55 PM EDT
      Then I'll be here!!! #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • DrCSJones Oct 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Hey everyone...thanks for the chat tonight, but I have to run. I enjoyed my first time in #sblchat! A lot of good things. Have a great night
  • adamddrummond Oct 4 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A6: They are best reported on the phone or in person. I thing takes the place of authentic conversations about +\- behavior. #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Mine are done on frequency. I have the kids self-report, which works really well. #sblchat
    In reply to @kdhowe1, @DaveWheeler11
  • RoweRikW Oct 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Let's hear it for @garnet_hillman creating such practical questions to stimulate a great conversation. Bring it to your district! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Oct 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    And another great hour of learning is coming to an end - big thanks to the #sblchat PLN!
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Another great resource: the new book by our moderator @garnet_hillman. https://t.co/2HqjwqDUHw #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOwQtLr
  • Wells_edu Oct 4 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Tech made it faster for me to give feedback, but using a #singlepointrubric has been a game changer for improving S to S feedback #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @kdhowe1, @RoweRikW
  • DouglasReeves Oct 4 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Thanks everyone for a great chat. #sblchat https://t.co/jJcGOx85a1
  • KatieBudrow Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thanks for another great #sblchat everyone! Huge thanks to @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman for moderating!
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    We've got all-day in-service on Friday and the topic is do our grades reflect what we want them to? Can't wait to share! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW, @garnet_hillman
  • ehaan308 Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A6: Our district is calling them Indicators of Academic Success and are based upon attendance and discipline referrals. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thanks @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for another reflective night! #sblchat
  • mexusmx Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Not if expectations are clear. You can start with more guidance and support if it is new. #sblchat
    In reply to @JayeBarbeau
  • kdhowe1 Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thanks to you and @RoweRikW for hosting! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • JohnSchlender Oct 4 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    A6 Determined based on learners weekly reflections re: Respect and Responsibility along with teacher conferencing #sblchat