#meded Archive

All ideas and resources tweeted alongside #meded are curated and collected here.

Thursday September 13, 2018
9:00 PM EDT

  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to the #mededchat (US) I am your moderator for the next hour, @alliance4clined #meded
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    The topic & questions will be announced in a moment…for now, please introduce yourselves #meded #mededchat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Gary here awaiting Florence to visit in North Carolina #meded #mededchat
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • BESTUSMLETUTOR Sep 13 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    #IMG: I have been preparing for #USMLE #Step1 for 2 years & can't seem to grasp it last #NBME Score is a 205 & I want a 250! @BESTUSMLETUTOR: How are you doing besides Step 1? #IMG: STEP 1 #frustration encapsulates every aspect of how I am at the moment. #Terrified of it! #MedEd
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    If you are tuning in to the #mededchat, remember to use the #meded AND #mededchat hashtag and try to answer with the Topic numbers (T1, T2, T3)
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Kristina here checking in for #MedEd chat. Hi to @MedEdChat @hur2buzy @GLBDallaghan @myheroistrane. Catching up on work, hanging out with @DrSinhaEsq, and happy to be part of our great #MedEd twitter community.
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    We will assume that all of your tweets are your own during this hour unless otherwise stated #meded #mededchat
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Topic 1: What is the purpose of having students evaluate faculty teaching? #mededchat #meded
  • paladineh Sep 13 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi, it’s Heather, #FamilyMedicine residency program director in NYC. I hope all of the southerners are safe and dry! #meded #mededchat
  • paladineh Sep 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    A1: I think we always need feedback to improve, & student evals are part of that. Plus we want them to feel heard! #meded #mededchat
  • wwoodruff12 Sep 13 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    DNP Student. ED RN Mentor/Assistant Educator. #meded AND #mededchat
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • lisafieldsms Sep 13 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    I'm so Sorry to learn about this. Reach out to others. They will help. #MEDED.
    In reply to @doc__wils
  • lauraholdenFNP Sep 13 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: I think the end goal of faculty evaluations is to improve future courses, teaching style, and future student understanding. However, faculty evaluations often get side tracked to evaluate ease of class. #mededchat #MedEd
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 #mededchat #meded Does it seem that sometimes good evals are based on exam performance....and not really the quality of the delivery of the material?
    In reply to @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    #meded #mededchat HI from Columbus, Ohio
  • Alex_Coutin Sep 13 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    I love those consultants that know you’re a trainee and are on your side and encouraging when you call them for a consult as opposed to being annoyed. Shout out to the Ophtho staff I consulted the other night! #MedEd #realMVP
  • paladineh Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I work primarily with clinical students & find their evaluations very thoughtful. But I agree that teaching should be evaluated in other ways and not ONLY student evaluations #meded #MedEdChat
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • RJmdphilly Sep 13 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Consumer mentality #meded #mededchat
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • RJmdphilly Sep 13 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Is there a difference between preclinical evals and evals of clinical teachers? Feels different as someone who does some of both... #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @hur2buzy
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #meded #MedEdChat I like the processes that encourage self reflection
    In reply to @paladineh, @GLBDallaghan
  • AJKleinhex Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    T1 However, the intention and entrenchment of SEL does not absolve #MedEd administrators from the responsibility of reconciling the fact that over-reliance on SET is hurting women and minority faculty. #MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    T1 Since preclinical evals are mostly evals of lecturers or small group leaders, they are quite a bit different. Interactions are not as close as with clinical educators #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @RJmdphilly, @hur2buzy
  • lauraholdenFNP Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Not necessarily. If the the course work was presented well, but the exam was not a good reflection of what is taught then yes. And if the course is more challenging or grading is more strict then the student in turn evaluates the faculty and course more harsh. #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
  • NarjustDuma Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    T1: Students and ways of teaching change over time, we need to make sure our teachers/attendings adapt to the changes. The main goal is to reach and connect with our students. #MedEd #medtwitter
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • Kind4Kids Sep 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    Another way to think about it is that students are providing feedback about faculty teaching, rather than evaluating it. #MedEdChat #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    T1 As an instructor who has high standards, why should I be punished by evaluations from students who are upset that they had to work hard? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    T1 So should we then be training #medstudents how to give #feedback the same way we do faculty? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @Kind4Kids
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Topic 2: If evaluations are mandatory, what impact might that have on evaluations? on faculty promotions? #mededchat #meded
  • Alliance4ClinEd Sep 13 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2 This article came out last year about the reliability of compulsory evaluations https://t.co/41RJyDX7w4 #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    #meded #mededchat There is some data around learners giving more useful feedback when trained on evaluation terminology.
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @Kind4Kids
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    A2 At my previous job we did require completion of faculty evaluations. Never looked to see if ratings altered. #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @MedEdChat
  • AJKleinhex Sep 13 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    T1 It's also important to acknowledge that SET do not correlate to learning. So the 'purpose' becomes much more murky. #MedEdChat #MedEd https://t.co/WoSlxHaFod
  • lauraholdenFNP Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    I completely agree. This is one of the flaws of the system. I think if you teach difficult material well, test difficult material well- the instructor should be evaluated well. #medchat #Meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
  • MeffMD Sep 13 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    The antidote to acute stress in EM is psychological skills training; the therapy for chronic stress is building resilience. #PST will also accelerate rate at which you gain knowledge and skills. #MedEd #FOAMed @HumanFact0rz @ResusPadawan
  • cacace_frank Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    T1 #mededchat #meded . For me I also use themes/average teaching domain scores in our division, and I frame democratic choices for #facultydevelopment , then proceed with theme/skill that gets most votes. This way most learner and faculty centered.
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    T2 That then begs the question of what are the #medstudents evaluating? Entertainment factor of the presenter? What? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @AJKleinhex
  • Kind4Kids Sep 13 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Same principles. #MedEdChat #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Hi Terry! Good to see you in the #MedEdChat #meded
    In reply to @Kind4Kids
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A2 That's an interesting approach in sets the stage for validity evidence for your evaluation tool! Good work! #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @hur2buzy
  • lauraholdenFNP Sep 13 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    T1 What is a possible solution? How do we evaluate the efficacy of an instructor and the course, and not skew the results with emotions of a challenging course work? #mededchat #Meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
  • RJmdphilly Sep 13 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    And what are men evaluated on? #meded #mededchat?
    In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    That's what I'd like to figure out. How can we coach #medstudents on providing feedback that is not driven by emotions? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • DrJenChen4kids Sep 13 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    T2: My sense is that mandatory evals would likely decrease overall quality as students would fill it out without thinking as much about their answers, which the study also seems to hint at #MedEdChat #MedEd
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Agreed. I've often wanted to do a qualitative analysis of faculty evaluation comments to see if those with higher ratings have comments about entertainment value #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @RJmdphilly, @AJKleinhex
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    I think it is important for learners to evaluate the things about which they are able to provide thoughtful feedback. Others, like an educator or a peer might evaluate the methods and content. #meded #mededchat https://t.co/4OBGffNMqg
    In reply to @lauraholdenFNP, @GLBDallaghan, @MedEdChat
  • paladineh Sep 13 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Interesting - I know I don’t like when I’m forced to complete evaluations #meded #MedEdChat
    In reply to @Alliance4ClinEd, @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Have you tried trained peer observation? Some faculty I know are hesitant to do that. Thoughts on why? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @AJKleinhex, @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Many of the topics are emotionally laden. Can we make a system that accounts for learner emotions? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
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  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    What if rather than evaluating during the course we do it later to see if the #medstudents recognize how much they did learn from that instructor - boring or not #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @hur2buzy, @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Topic 3: What steps could be taken to ensure students understand the purpose of the faculty evaluation? #mededchat #meded
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  • DrJenChen4kids Sep 13 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Yes, because they’ll eventually need those skills as residents and attendings when they become the teachers too! #MedEdChat #MedEd
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @Kind4Kids
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A3 As with any evaluation tool, it requires training. We just give evals to #medstudents to complete without fully explaining the purpose of the results. That might be a first step. #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • VUMCRadOnc Sep 13 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    It was great to meet the next generation of radoncs at @VUmedicine #intro to #radonc! Medical students are always welcome to come to @VUMCRadOnc dept! #MedEd #medschool @VUmidp
  • Alliance4ClinEd Sep 13 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    A3 This article hit on training faculty and #medstudents so they were on the same page about the purpose of evals https://t.co/2M2zOpUwxK #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • RJmdphilly Sep 13 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Yeah that feels about right #meded #mededchat
    In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
  • Kind4Kids Sep 13 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    What in medical education is required, obligatory, compulsory, mandatory... vs what is the students’ professional responsibility #MedEdChat #meded
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    That's a great question. We tied eval completion to professionalism at my prior place. #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @Kind4Kids
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    I can see why people would be nervous about peer evaluation but if you do it with someone you trust - and you also observe them - it could be a safe opportunity to try out new methods or simply get feedback on teaching. #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan, @AJKleinhex, @lauraholdenFNP, @MedEdChat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A3 Sometimes the faculty member won't be teaching again for that class. Maybe it's incumbent upon the leadership to inform the #medstudents what changes occurred based on feedback #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @hur2buzy
  • AJKleinhex Sep 13 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    T3 If we as #MedEd faculty and administrators can't articulate a purpose for SEL that also addresses the proven bias against women and minorities, as well as absence of any correlation to learning, we shouldn't bother trying to communicate our current justifications to them.
  • AMedTypePerson Sep 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A3 Jumping in here, provided training on completing evaluations to my PA students this semester. Waiting to evaluate quality and quantity of responses. #MedEd #mededchat
    In reply to @MedEdChat, @kristinadzara
  • KBibbinsDomingo Sep 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Great article & why I ❤️@UCSFMedicine & our leaders @TalmadgeKing @CatherineRLucey critical self-reflection, rigorous study of an important problem, proposed solutions that can improve #meded more broadly, commitment to #equity
    • CatherineRLucey Sep 13 @ 5:14 PM EDT
      In print: @UCSFMedicine study on existence, causes & countermeasures for clerkship grading inequities in med school Conclude: Urgent need for med schools &teaching hospitals to seek out and address issues of inequity in learning, assessment, and honors https://t.co/qEeZUk1POW
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    #mededchat #meded I wonder if there is a way to do quick cycle formative feedback
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    #MedEd #MedEdchat I am teaching 2 sections of healthcare research to undergrad health sciences majors this term. I am having them do plus/delta after every class. What went well? What could have gone better? I want them to see that I value their feedback and try to incorporate it
  • DavidCookeMD Sep 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Yes, I do the same thing. And I tell the trainees. #meded
    • SidhuGang Sep 13 @ 9:43 PM EDT
      Been thinking about the concept of bedside homeostasis when rounding— turn lights back off, move bedside table back to bedside, pull blanket back up— basic things that respect the patient’s tiny remaining autonomy. Some MDs get it. Others don’t. Teachable?
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    I also explain to them why this is important to me - that I care about their learning experience and I want to do what I can to help them solidify deep learning as future healthcare scholars. #MedEd #MedEdChat
  • RJmdphilly Sep 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    At risk of outing myself as only inconsistently amazing and inspiring, here is a fun grab bag from an old lecture. I’m not sure how any of this is supposed to help me improve. #meded #mededchat
    In reply to @AJKleinhex, @GLBDallaghan
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Great idea @kristinadzara #mededchat #meded
    • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:48 PM EDT
      #MedEd #MedEdchat I am teaching 2 sections of healthcare research to undergrad health sciences majors this term. I am having them do plus/delta after every class. What went well? What could have gone better? I want them to see that I value their feedback and try to incorporate it
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Oh, and they have never seen or done plus/delta or just in time formative feedback to their teacher before. So this is all new to them. #MedEd #MedEdChat
  • drcaraking Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Excellent morning with our PGY2s and PGY3s as we practiced laparoscopic dissection techniques! #MedEd #MIGS
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Do you think you'd have the same reactions from a lecture hall full of 190 students? #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @kristinadzara
  • DrJenChen4kids Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    T3: Explain what happens to the evals after, like do they get summarized, who decides if changes will be made, how do they affect the faculty’s job, etc #MedEdChat #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • moorelps Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    "Learning is enhanced in environments where individuals are part of a mix of people who are not like themselves". #diversity #genderequity #meded https://t.co/iH0ec24iav
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Thanks Larry! I also explained adult learning theory to my students on the first day. I want them to have some understanding of why I make the pedagogical choices I do. #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @hur2buzy
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Does repeating the process reduce the cognitive load for them? #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @kristinadzara
  • hur2buzy Sep 13 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    #mededchat #meded could you do it with a Audience Response question where the responses were not visable?
    • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:51 PM EDT
      Do you think you'd have the same reactions from a lecture hall full of 190 students? #mededchat #meded
      In reply to @kristinadzara
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Hi Larry. The semester is new so we shall see. After compiling the plus/deltas I bring them up at the beginning of the next class so that they know I have considered them, and am working to improve their learning experience (or why I can't change something). #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @hur2buzy
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    We have about 5 more minutes left in our discussion. Please feel free to give some final thoughts #meded #mededchat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    What you're doing sounds like a smaller class. I'm just curious if you think of full lecture hall would react the same with asking for what works and what isn't. #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @kristinadzara
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    We will be off next week as I will be out of town. Join us in 2 weeks. Don't forget to suggest topics by DM or email #meded #mededchat
  • GLBDallaghan Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Final Thoughts: Training #medstudents how to complete evaluations is more important than I previously thought. Assuming they understand why they are important is an error on my part #mededchat #meded
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • Kind4Kids Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Hoping our Carolina #MedEd #MedEdChat community stays safe. Thanks for serving as healthcare professionals before, during, and after #Florence
  • OBGaYN Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    T3: Demonstrable action taken on the feedback #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @MedEdChat
  • kristinadzara Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Hi Gary, I am doing this anonymously and low-tech! They all write on a small piece of paper and hand it to me on their way out the door. I want it to feel safe for them to share. So, I think the same method could be used in a big lecture hall. #MedEd #MedEdChat
    In reply to @GLBDallaghan
  • MedEdChat - Moderator Sep 13 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    That's a wrap...I will be posting the transcript tomorrow morning (Flo permitting) on https://t.co/mJivoK9NyX on the Resources page. Thanks everyone for participating! #meded #mededchat