#sblchat Archive
Wednesday September 6, 2017
9:00 PM EDT
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Welcome to
#sblchat
!
@garnet_hillman
and I are pleased to welcome you back to your Crew that focuses on Standards-Based Learning & Grading!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Good evening and welcome to our first
#sblchat
of the 17-18 school year! Please start intros - name, location, role.
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
Ken, thrilled to share with you in
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @kenoc7, @leeannjung, @ASCD
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Rik, a Facilitator of Learning with a math focus, is honored to co-moderate tonight's
#sblchat
with our Dear Friend
@garnet_hillman
.
TeachinTexas
Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
#SBLchat
Hi friends! Kristen Whiddon from Little Elm, TX (Dallas area). I teach 1st grade!!😃
In reply to @garnet_hillman
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
hello
#sblchat
paul from O H I O, cutting sabbatical short to take a part time HS job to help out "family" (alma mater)
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Kristen, welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @TeachinTexas, @garnet_hillman
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hi Kristen!
#sblchat
In reply to @TeachinTexas
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello
#sblchat
! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area. So happy to be back with you all!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
I'm Garnet, an ed consultant from the Chicagoland area. Thrilled to be back with my fantastic co-moderator
@RoweRikW
!
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Jonathan Tallman, Supt from Southern IL
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Good evening Paul!
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
#sblchat
Colleen high school world history teacher! Love
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Paul, always pleased to learn and laugh with you!
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Ken O’Connor, author/consultant back home in Toronto after Glens Falls(NY) SD yesterday. Also watching Federer Del Potro @ US Open.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Great to be back to
#sblchat
. Dave - HS SS teacher in Iowa
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello pal!!
#imissyou
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Katie, we are so pleased to be with You!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
We have 6 questions: Q1, Q2, Q3 for you tonight in
#sblchat
. Please respond with A1, A2, A3 and our hashtag of
#sblchat
so all can see!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Welcome Jonathan!
#sblchat
In reply to @SuptTallman
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Jonathan, Welcome!
#sblchat
In reply to @SuptTallman
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey everyone!! So excited to be back at
#sblchat
. Kirk here from Chicago Northshore. Teacher of 6-8th grade double accelerated math.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi Colleen!
#sblchat
In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi Rik! Happy first chat!
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Denise from Nebraska
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datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Datie from Alabama Principal of Student Services. Hello everyone.☺
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Colleen, happy to learn alongside you tonight!
#sblchat
In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening Ken!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
_Ashley_Torres
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Good evening
#sblchat
! Ashley, Teacher & encourager of technology, 4th grade in WV.
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Tom from Vancouver, BC joining in tonight from Montreal, QC
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
So stoked!
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
gang!! Megan, from Schaumburg Il- high school math teacher. Excited to be chatting tonight.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey Dave - always great to chat with you!
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi
#sblchat
Kinda from Baltimore County, MD.
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hello! I am Mike from hear Rochester NY (Hilton HS) Biology teacher
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi Katie.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
We have 6 questions for your consideration tonight - don't forget to include
#sblchat
with your responses!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi there friend! Miss seeing you every day!
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Dave, it's a pleasure to team up with you tonight in
#sblchat
FOR Learning!
In reply to @DRich0696
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Good evening Datie!
#sblchat
In reply to @datiepriest
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Ken! Hey, I'll be at Corwin on the 23rd (?) of October. You'll be there too, yes?
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Mariana, from México. Special education coordinator. First time here.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Tom! So glad you could join us tonight.
#sblchat
In reply to @TomSchimmer
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
John Schlender, Mayville, WI Grade 3 - 8 @
@1stEdResources
Happy that
#sblchat
is back!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Hi Ashley!
#sblchat
In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jason HS Dean of Students from IL. Glad to be here!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Kirk, just the sound of accelerated math has my catching my breath!
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Lee Ann Jung hootsuite tweeting from Monterrey, MX tonight. CAO of
@ascdsgc
& former sped professor
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Brad in Minnesota joining
#sblchat
. Former international school leader.
jercook73
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Jerry, Principal at Wheeling High School in IL
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi Megan!
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
It's been too long, Rik.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Pete, Supt from suburban Chicago. Heard that today is 10th birthday of # on Twitter. Can't think of a better way to celebrate than
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome Denise!
#sblchat
In reply to @ddigiova
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi Mike, thanks for joining us!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Welcome! This is an awesome group for collaboration!
#sblchat
In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Glad to be here!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi! How are you enjoying the big change you took on this year?
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#sblchat
Hi Rik, Garnet and all.
@BarbMiller12
ELA Instructional Coachfrom Katy, Tx. Harvey hasn't got us down.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Hi John!
#sblchat
In reply to @JohnSchlender, @1stEdResources
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Great that you’ll be there.
#sblchat
I hope lots of
#sblchat
peeps will be there too.
In reply to @KatieBudrow
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Q1 coming up in 1 minute...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Our
#MHSPrecal
Learners are using this as a road map of our Semester one learning journey with Standards-Based Learning.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Greetings, Datie!
#sblchat
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Datie from Alabama Principal of Student Services. Hello everyone.☺
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Yay! Thanks for joining us Jason.
#sblchat
In reply to @j_ozbolt
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Hi Brad!
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
What did I miss Garnet?
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @garnet_hillman
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
#SBLChat
time
@CraigTReed_PHS
@MrLePla
@heathersau
@MDFormative
@BCPSFormative
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Megan, we're excited to see you here!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hey
#sblchat
gang!! Megan, from Schaumburg Il- high school math teacher. Excited to be chatting tonight.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Good evening Jerry!
#sblchat
In reply to @jercook73
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
Welcome Kinda!
#sblchat
In reply to @GradeSmarter
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why do you grade?
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RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Mike!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
I am really enjoying it, thanks for asking! Dave - I moved into full time consulting and writing this year.
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696, @MeganCMoMo
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Jerry! My mother-in-law lives right behind your press box. Heard a lot of great band practice over the summer.
#sblchat
In reply to @jercook73
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Let's all welcome Mariana to her first
#sblchat
Tonight!
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Mariana, from México. Special education coordinator. First time here.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Hi Pete! Thanks for joining us tonight.
#sblchat
In reply to @WillCounty92
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 The purpose of grading is to communicate where students are in relation to the standards at a given moment in time.
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RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - Our public school still requires quarterly grades. Our grades aim to communicate the Proficiency Levels of our Learning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Hi Barb! Great to chat with you.
#sblchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Jerry, we're pleased to welcome you!
#sblchat
In reply to @jercook73
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Only because I have to - parents need to know learning progress of their kids.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Let our Celebration begin!
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
Pete, Supt from suburban Chicago. Heard that today is 10th birthday of # on Twitter. Can't think of a better way to celebrate than
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - I assess in order to give feedback - move students in a desired direction
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
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A1 i will grade b/c i am told that i have to ?????
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
To know what my students have mastered and know what needs to be retaught and who needs what
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why do you grade?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Barb, we welcome You!
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
#sblchat
Hi Rik, Garnet and all.
@BarbMiller12
ELA Instructional Coachfrom Katy, Tx. Harvey hasn't got us down.
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
#sblchat
This is the Corwin institute that
@KatieBudrow
mentioned.
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: First instinct is to say I don't grade.I provide feedback to help learners progress on towards understanding.
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j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 to let Ss and Ps know where they are at in the learning journey at that point in time.
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BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 You grade because someone else says you have to. You assess because it leads to more learning.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
That's fantastic! Great jump for you; you'll be successful in anything you decide to do.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MeganCMoMo
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Ditto!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: First instinct is to say I don't grade.I provide feedback to help learners progress on towards understanding.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Here We Grow!!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 Why do you grade?
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 To communicate learning at a given moment in time.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
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A1 - give a grade to show progress with the feedback needed to progress more
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1: "Grade" the verb = the summative purpose of assessment, which is about the verification of learning & the reporting to others
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j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 a grade is a nice summary, but is useless if there is no feedback to act upon
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 Why do you grade?
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leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 The primary purpose 4 clear & accurate data on performance, thus a grade, is 2 inform my instruction!
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Feedback is where it's at!!
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MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 - I assess in order to give feedback - move students in a desired direction
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Bring on the laughter, Paul!
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shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
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A1 i will grade b/c i am told that i have to ?????
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Luis Fernando directly from Mexico City
#CDMX
. Special Education Counselor. Excited to start the conversation!
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1 - We grade to communicate student achievement on standards to whomever has the right to know about a student’s achievement.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
_Ashley_Torres
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1:Love to say I always grade to assess learning-reality is that sometimes it's because I'm required 9 grades per subject per MP
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WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1. A great professor once told me that grading--like all activities in school--should ultimately promote student learning.
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kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: I like the word, "assess" way better than grade. We grade to see where a kid is in a moment in time in their learning.
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fostermiracle
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A move towards SBL can help change the focus from grades to learning and growth.
#sblchat
#edchat
neiltyson
Sep 6 @ 10:56 AM EDT
In school, students cheat because the system values high grades more than students value learning.
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
LOUDER, Brad!
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BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 You grade because someone else says you have to. You assess because it leads to more learning.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
#sblchat
grading without feedback is useless. But you can give feedback without a grade
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1...loaded question.☺ To provide a guide towards mastery. I would have provided a different answer 3-5 years ago.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Assesss is definitely the best word!
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kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: I like the word, "assess" way better than grade. We grade to see where a kid is in a moment in time in their learning.
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BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
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A1 2 inform Ss & Ps of where Ss r on their path to learning the standard. I hate the word grade; prefer feedback
#SJHCATS
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
My thoughts exactly!
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
#sblchat
grading without feedback is useless. But you can give feedback without a grade
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
#sblchat
A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Greetings, Luis!
#sblchat
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Luis Fernando directly from Mexico City
#CDMX
. Special Education Counselor. Excited to start the conversation!
#sblchat
ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 I think we grade because we believe families/community/colleges expect it.
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thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 To gather evidence to enact next steps in the teaching/learning cycle. Action required on both ends.
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
We are going to be talking healthy grading practices Sept 16 @ Schaumburg HS for FREE!! Join us! Register:
https://t.co/lkavfkbxME
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Great question, and a better question would be why do we have to?! Feedback is so much more effective..and let it inform inst.
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DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
I've gathered enough evidence to make that assessment of you! Now waiting for confirmation with most recent evidence.
#sblchat
#readyourbook
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MeganCMoMo
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Whew. Dinner had me running late but - Ian from BCs smokey Shuswap looking forward to the return of
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Hi Tom! Great to chat with you.
#sblchat
In reply to @thierck
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: The symbols (noun) are not as important as the action (verb) of certifying achievement vs standards; that's unavoidable
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DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1. I believe that grades should be use only to know where is our student standing. Is she learning the skill?
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Well, if its only because its expected but no mention on necessity - then should we reconsider?
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ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1 I think we grade because we believe families/community/colleges expect it.
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I believe grades show achievement not progress. Ach’t and progress aren’t the same.
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In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1. We assess to keep track of the student's progress. Provide some feedback o or to have a better frame of their learning process.
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thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Just had dinner with
@TomSchimmer
and could not let him go the chat alone!
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @TomSchimmer
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Hi Ian!
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1...I also prefer assess over grade. Assessment allows you to address learning patterns whereas grades = what it is right now...
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
Ian, we've been awaiting your arrival in
#sblchat
...
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Whew. Dinner had me running late but - Ian from BCs smokey Shuswap looking forward to the return of
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1 Some say purpose 4 grades is 2 accurately report what Ss know. But reporting isn't the purpose. 1/2
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
We should have brought our laptops to dinner haha!
#sblchat
In reply to @thierck, @garnet_hillman
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Katie from Maine joining a little late.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Love to have a bunch of BCers in tonight's
#sblchat
In reply to @thierck, @garnet_hillman, @TomSchimmer
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Good evening Katie!
#sblchat
In reply to @Katiemissu
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Who do you grade for?
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
That is a crazy number of grades!!!
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In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
YES!!! I'll post a hashtag to follow and resources if you resist the temptation
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In reply to @BarbMiller12, @koliver555
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Katie, welcome!
#sblchat
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Katie from Maine joining a little late.
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jercook73
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
We should also grade/assess to inform next steps in our instruction
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SraWienhold
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Hola
#sblchat
! Allison, Spanish teacher in Iowa joining in late
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
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but progress should be allowed to continue based on level of achievment
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I believe grades show achievement not progress. Ach’t and progress aren’t the same.
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In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
effortfuleduktr
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1 - So Ss understand their level of understanding.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Allison, pleased to share with you in
#sblchat
Tonight!
In reply to @SraWienhold
j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 the S and the P to give a quick summary.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - We grade as a means of communication for our Administration, Parents, our Learners, and colleges/universities.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 IMHO traditional grading is for outside of school - parents, universities, etc. When made meaningful it is also for Ss and Ts.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: First and foremost the students. It is their learning and should have ownership of it. Secondly, it gives me an understanding.
#sblchat
mexusmx
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1: Assessment done right served to guide instructional pace and help Ts refocus or redouble their efforts.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A1 I try not to give unclear symbols to denote achievement based on tasks...but I do like giving feedback based on learning!
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Hi Allison!
#sblchat
In reply to @SraWienhold
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - Grades are judgments ... at least in Ss eyes
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
#sblchat
parents, school, students.. wish Ss never saw grades til the end then focus on knowledge not grades or passing/failing
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Who do you grade for?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: I issue grades because I am told to & I only issue them 3 times a term. The rest is student-scored and based on feedback.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
Hi Ian. I hope you and all are safe out there in BC with all the fires.
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: I grade for parents. Students don't need grades, but many want them - they only need assessment feedback.
#sblchat
_Ashley_Torres
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: I assess learning and growth for myself. I give letter/# grades for the parents and students.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: For Ss, so they can know that certain achievement w/ standards has been reached. For Ps, so they can be informed abt child
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
Absolutely!!!!
#sblchat
In reply to @BarbMiller12
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2 we grade for the scholarship committees and college admission offices so they can rank students
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 I think of grades as a common language for student, parent, and teacher. So the grading would be communication for all three.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
So far - but I don't want to tempt the fires!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 Who do you grade for?
#sblchat
SraWienhold
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: I assess for students to see where they are at & to provide me with data to guide instruction
#sblchat
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 In the past it was for the system. Making the shift to grades as part of the learning process for the learners.
#sblchat
ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
There is a absolutely a necessity for assessment and feedback. Sometimes I wish that was the focus instead of "grades."
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way
#sblchat
effortfuleduktr
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 - The stakeholders...lame answer, but it's the truth.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Who do you grade for?
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
SO sad, I don't want judgments or feelings involved in my evaluation of learning. Not given from me and not felt by them.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 - Grades are judgments ... at least in Ss eyes
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
EXACTLY!
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Agreed! Grades show pass/fail not knowledge learned. Ss only think I'm failing not I need to work harder
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
TeachinTexas
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: For myself🙃We use data in our PLCs, to guide instruction, build groups.. BUT I'm making the switch to KIDS though!
#whyimhere
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 IOW, the info is for Ss and me, but the main reason to reduce words to a symbol is 4 efficient data use.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2 Scores are primarily for me 2 inform my instruction. It's a reduction of the feedback data, which is for Ss.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Bravo! Your classes are about learning, not grading.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: I issue grades because I am told to & I only issue them 3 times a term. The rest is student-scored and based on feedback.
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2. I grade for me, to know if I'm on the right instructional direction for the student.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Truth!
#sblchat
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
#sblchat
assessment and feedback should occur almost constantly
In reply to @ddigiova, @MeganCMoMo
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
That's why we are in this chat:) So we can work the movement and take the steps to change the focus to learning.
#sblchat
In reply to @ddigiova
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: We (educators) can't minimize the importance of synthesizing learning results; we know, but Ps need access w/out=overwhelmed
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth
#sblchat
vamp_kris2102
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
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#Lotus
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Complete number matching car, VIN 621H, L31
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: To communicates Ss current level of performance in relation to the learning targets/standards at a given point in time.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
You got it, Garnet. Sadly also for athletic eligibility. Meaningful for S P and T if grades are for standards NOT subjects.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 IMHO traditional grading is for outside of school - parents, universities, etc. When made meaningful it is also for Ss and Ts.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
#STOPIT
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We don't teach Ts the right way to give feedback so they resort to grades
#sblchat
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way
#sblchat
ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Agreed!
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17, @MeganCMoMo
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
We grade for T's to find out who knows what in their classroom, next steps in teaching. Also for S's for feedback on where they r
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Who do you grade for?
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#sblchat
correct..T's were never taught how to give high quality feedback
In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: Grading doesn't necessarily = giving letter grades. We have to know & be able to articulate the difference to all stakeholders
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#sblchat
A2 it should b 4 & with Ss. Ps & S dis want a grade 2 b in compliance w/ community expectations. Need 2 work on changing expts.
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning.
#sblchat
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Absolutely, grading should reflect student growth and progress with clear feedback
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 I think of grades as a common language for student, parent, and teacher. So the grading would be communication for all three.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 - Who SHOULD be grades for?
#sblchat
#realquestion
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2. We should be grading to inform our instructional behaviors inclusive of data and student voice
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
I put grades on Permanent Record cards, as that's still a rule in BC - and I'm willing to translate for patents as we shift
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Yes exactly!
#sblchat
In reply to @TomSchimmer
thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2 Wide variety of audiences & dependent on a variety of factors. Must be for Ss, Ts, Ps & other (occasionally) required audiences
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Check out "The Culture of Feedback" by
@plugusin
and
@mrscienceteach
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
#sblchat
correct..T's were never taught how to give high quality feedback
In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A sad truth. School leaders must lead shift away from this harmful belief about grading.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Yes! Yes! Yes!
#sblchat
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning.
#sblchat
Algebrainwords
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
1st night back teaching. Students smiled when I told them they will discover their untapped potential in my class
#suptchat
#sblchat
#scchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
If we only provide grades for 2 days each grading period the focus is on feedback and learning.
#sblchat
In reply to @ddigiova, @MeganCMoMo
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
A2 sadly, I can "grade" pretty accurately knowing a few factors (family, solicit-Econ, gender etc) IF she/afl not being used...
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A: For others who want to compare and sort rather than grow and teach ALL students
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A2: We GRADE for the system. But we should ASSESS for informed feedback for our Ss and informed instruction for us.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some different things a grade can represent or include?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Important to recognize the differences between grading and assessing.
#sblchat
In reply to @SuptTallman
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Grading promotes competition rather than collaboration in the classroom.
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
A: For others who want to compare and sort rather than grow and teach ALL students
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Too often students ask/say that a grade is what s teacher gives them. Needs to connect with authentic S work (on Learning)
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: A grade should show where a student is on their journey to learning content. Should only include academic proficiency.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 - The ONLY thing our grades represent is the most recent Proficiency Levels associated with each of our Standards.
#NoKleenex
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Traditional grading represents academic achievement, behaviors, and growth combined. SBG separates these for clarity.
#sblchat
j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 it should include the students current achievement in relations to the standards. Not include behavior should be separate.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2: Remember that in the orthodoxy of assessment, "formative grades" are an oxymoron; Grading for feedback=mixed-message/purpose
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
#sblchat
leaders need to help Ts grow and provide openness to allow Ts to be creative in grading
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
I agree. Leaders must be intentional in providing strategic feedback to Ts with the expressed intent grow & develop them.
In reply to @shirky17, @Ms_Heilsberg
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
YES, YES, YES!!!
#sblchat
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Some grades still include behavior.
#sblchat
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2. Grading is important for some parents or most of them. It is a mindset pretty intrincated in the Mex Ed system.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Not yours and not mine...
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Some grades still include behavior.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
Never, ever.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
This has been the biggest struggle for Ts at my school
#sblchat
sbg needs to show separate growth not combined
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Traditional grading represents academic achievement, behaviors, and growth combined. SBG separates these for clarity.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
An important distinction that many educators do not understand.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2: Remember that in the orthodoxy of assessment, "formative grades" are an oxymoron; Grading for feedback=mixed-message/purpose
#sblchat
thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 I know what it shouldn't include - behaviour, effort, social factors, class (perceived) effort
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
YES!
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance.
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
#sblchat
A3 unfortunately many grades reflect behaviors instead of strictly academics. Another change we need to implement.
#sjhcats
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A2 When I graded it was for students, parents and recognition. I assessed learning but a grade wasn't needed for that.
#sblchat
#edtech562
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
RT Q3 What are some different things a grade can represent or include?
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Sadly, I used to though...regrets of the past.
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 - grades CAN include a “hodgepodge” of factors; they SHOULD only include individual achievement of standards.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 can include success towards a learning goal, success to a specific standard, work ethic, attitude, responsibility, lots of stuff
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3. A grade should represent the progress the student is making.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
Many students see grades as a representation of self worth ... hence the evolution of "grade-grubbers" and "I give up-ers"
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 What are some different things a grade can represent or include?
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I committed every grading malpractice in the book! Until I learned there was another way...
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
ditto
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I committed every grading malpractice in the book! Until I learned there was another way...
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
I think this is a struggle many teachers have when moving from a traditional grading system.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
This has been the biggest struggle for Ts at my school
#sblchat
sbg needs to show separate growth not combined
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 Traditional grading represents academic achievement, behaviors, and growth combined. SBG separates these for clarity.
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: "grade" can include everything from academic achievement to effort to compliance to participation
#sblchat
Grades must be defined
_Ashley_Torres
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: Grades should correspond with the ability to meet the standard consistently.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Agree. Sadly, many students associate part of their identity with a grade.
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Thanks for letting me off the hook.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3. Everything is overlapped. Sometimes progress is diminished bc of a behavioral issue or backwards.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Me too! I learned better though through
#sblchat
!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I committed every grading malpractice in the book! Until I learned there was another way...
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Me too! So happy now that I've changed and I can see my Ss change for the better
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
I committed every grading malpractice in the book! Until I learned there was another way...
#sblchat
In reply to @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
Lots of conversations starters here! Esp as universities aren't always happy w their 4 year completions - they want learners!
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Make sure to follow all the wonderful people you are chatting with tonight!
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 - Feedback MUST be included - otherwise it doesn't move students to improve
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Andy from MN joining
#sblchat
a little late. A3: Grades should empower our Ss to collaborate with us to report their current learning.
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
The struggle has been real at my school
#sblchat
In reply to @ehaan308
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 An achievement grade can only reflect achievement.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 An approaches to learning/behavior grade should only reflect that construct.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Please...
#STOPIT
!
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher.
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Have you become a
#sucklesseveryday
strategist too?
#separatedatbirth
#sblchat
In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine, @RoweRikW
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Great point. It's important to remember that those kids are just reacting to the system in which they live.
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I must emphasize proficiency/ach't & progress are related but different. If grades are about progress we need diff’t descriptors.
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
It's 2017 people, let's hope we're long past this one! Sadly, in some spots, I'm not sure we are.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
ddigiova
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Love this!
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 An achievement grade can only reflect achievement.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Andy, jump in Friend!
#sblchat
In reply to @aollenburg
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do.
#sblchat
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yea, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Me too.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 the more I think & read & share etc the less certain I am about what grades mean....even less sure about %s....
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yes, I agree. I use summative scores for grades, but consider not only that for evidence.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Hardest conversation with Ss when you have to explain how their grade shows what they know not how nice they are
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do.
#sblchat
Kenny_pal2
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Let's talk about "
#sblchat
" right now - Chat channel (free)
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JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 Grades should represent the most recent evidence of progress toward meeting the standard.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Agreed. Both important, but separate.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I must emphasize proficiency/ach't & progress are related but different. If grades are about progress we need diff’t descriptors.
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
YES!
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Here's my challenge: we have language arts for a grade, but made up of reading/writing/speaking + competencies. & I hate to average
#sblchat
In reply to @j_ozbolt
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
But many universities seem willing to accept huge first year failure rates. (Freshmen = cash cows)
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @BradLatzke
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Time to change the system
#sblchat
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Can you use a logic rule?
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Exactly - the system creates the ideal 'A student'.
#sblchat
In reply to @WillCounty92, @MikeSzczepanik
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm?
#sblchat
JanetChowMSc
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Not sure they realize what they're doing
#sblchat
In reply to @RoweRikW
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Sometimes the 'most frequent' or 'consistent' is more accurate; can be 'more' recent vs 'most.' With complexity, +1 time is needed.
#sblchat
In reply to @JohnSchlender
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Welcome to the dark side!! C'mon in, the water is fine!!! 😀
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 the more I think & read & share etc the less certain I am about what grades mean....even less sure about %s....
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Our Learners asked us this week to be honest in our grading and to make it pure learning! SBG at work!
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Hardest conversation with Ss when you have to explain how their grade shows what they know not how nice they are
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Align assessment, instruction, & practice to the standards. Report where Ss are at that moment w/their learning and proficiency.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 - Accuracy can be improved by NOT averaging, NOT including zeros, NOT including Extra Credit, NOT including bonus points.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: The moment you include anything that represents behavior (Extra Cred, practice...) into a grade, you have invalidated the grade
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A3 Homework completion is a behavior, not achievement.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Reading What's Worth Fighting Against in Grading can help! :-)
#sblchat
https://t.co/uSuVix8gpb
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Zeros = failure. That is students mindset. There is no feedback, nor progress.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
When there is more college debt than credit card debt, you have a univ. system focused on other things than learning.
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @technolandy
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
What about Pepsi caps?
#sblchat
In reply to @kirk_humphreys
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Decrease the range of numerical ratings to something less than 100 for goodness sake.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Very true.
#sblchat
In reply to @BradLatzke, @kenoc7, @technolandy
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - Accuracy is by empowering Learners to PERSEVERE in our Learning through various reassessment options.
#TakeLast
Grade
#sblchat
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
This. I cannot say it any better ...
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Align assessment, instruction, & practice to the standards. Report where Ss are at that moment w/their learning and proficiency.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Yes Kirk...Pepsi caps.
#sblchat
In reply to @KatieBudrow, @kirk_humphreys
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
And Ss see it as a done deal not that it's something that still has be competed
#alllearningisimportant
#sblchat
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
Zeros = failure. That is students mindset. There is no feedback, nor progress.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Ensure assess only learning (validity) and ensure that teachers determine grades in a similar, likeminded process (reliability)
#sblchat
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q4: Toss out computerized grading programs. Teachers not computers determine grades.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
But if the "big ones" change - others will follow (thanks to
@MIT
for being one of these trendchangers!)
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @BradLatzke, @MIT
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
We should have no subject grades except for grades 11 and 12. Through grade 10 only grades for standards.
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#sblchat
The zero conversation drives me crazy. Many TS still caught up in punishment. "That'll teach them" philosophy.
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
RT Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 - Accuracy can be improved by setting clear Goals and keeping those Goals ever present in the minds of our Learners.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
I am making two changes ... No grades for individual assignments (only feedback) and no homework unless Ss assigns to self.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm?
#sblchat
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 Looking at trends/tendencies rather than averages. Making sure that only the proficiency on standards are what are included.
#sblchat
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A3 A grade should represent the task it's attached to, thus a dilemma of giving a singular subject grade.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Communicate clear targets and provide feedback to indicate where the learner is in relation to reaching the target.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Teachers and their Learners in Collaboration...
#sblchat
#Reflection
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
Q4: Toss out computerized grading programs. Teachers not computers determine grades.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Been biggest fight. Don't use grades to punish Ss!
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
#sblchat
The zero conversation drives me crazy. Many TS still caught up in punishment. "That'll teach them" philosophy.
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data.
#sblchat
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Accuracy is immediately improved by shifting the mindset & ditching "grades" & "averaging" and measuring progress toward stds.
#sblchat
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
With better written scales or rubrics that define what has to be shown to be proficient. It's work but worth it.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm?
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
#sblchat
shouldnt they ALL get A's? wasnt our goal to have them learn "everything", why settle for less than A
In reply to @garnet_hillman, @WillCounty92, @MikeSzczepanik
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Love those changes!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
JanetChowMSc
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Are they all considered equal?
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Agreed, life long learning is not just a catch phrase; it is real and begins w/developing "academic grit"
#sblchat
#kidsdeserveit
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 - Accuracy is by empowering Learners to PERSEVERE in our Learning through various reassessment options.
#TakeLast
Grade
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Sure....I'll go with mode (because I like Pi 😜) but I also have LOs along the top of my "grade book" instead of tasks -....
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Couldn't agree more! As
@tguskey
makes clear, more categories = increase in potential misclassification. % sys = enemy of accuracy
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: Decrease the range of numerical ratings to something less than 100 for goodness sake.
#sblchat
thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 Alignment is key! Assess what was taught, where you spent time, what mattered most
#sblchat
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 Provide crystal clear descriptors and definitions of levels of proficiency for each standard being assessed.
#sblchat
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Stop using grades as rewards/compensation for completing tasks.
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Remember that assignments are practice. Ss need time to make and learn from mistakes which should never be included in a grade
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
... "so do o have to figure out which Learning Outcomes are more valuable? Based on dedicated time? Growth? Other?
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Yes! And teachers need to come together and agree on what evidence proves proficiency with that skill.
#sblchat
In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4 Accuracy improves with quality ass't, eliminate behaviours from grades, no group scores, levels not %, no averaging & no 0’s.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 By removing practices like averaging or other ways of "calculating" grades.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4 Todd Rose's "The End of Average" has ended convo about averaging. Use his research to stop averaging grades in your school.
#sblchat
NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: Create essential outcomes, focus teaching on the learning, communicate the what, how & why with students. Assess the learning.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
It's nice to find someone who thinks alike. That's why I love
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Exactly! good questions arise now that
#sblchat
is back!
In reply to @JanetChowMSc, @j_ozbolt
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4. T's need to assess the skill and it's progress. Every student needs to feel he is learning and achieving.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
If I get to write them, I get to answer them too!
#sblchat
:)
In reply to @DaveWheeler11
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Assessments need to reflect the learning expected and be aligned correctly with the standards.
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
how do you not give an average when the whole system is meant to average (& the average is meaningless)
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
Welcome back to
#sblchat
my friend!
In reply to @NKleinmeyer
datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
A4 Begin with the End in Mind. Chart the end goal and work backwards. Provide Ss feedback. Make the goals and pathways visible 4 Ss
#sblchat
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
We are adding an Academic Success standard to our SBG report cards that include standards for items like behavior/attendance.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included.
#sblchat
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
Mode is still a computation. I would suggest using a if --> then
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
I disagree - as long as the teacher controls the program and the program doesn’t’t control the teacher computer programs save time.
#sblchat
In reply to @GradeSmarter
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
If I run a 4:00 minute mile today - should I average all of my mile times over the past year?
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
mrswahle
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
So true! If my paycheck suffered from every time I made a mistake and LEARNED from it... well you do the math!
#sblchat
#edchat
#room407
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Remember that assignments are practice. Ss need time to make and learn from mistakes which should never be included in a grade
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
We've always had them at my school but just now starting to use them right
#sblchat
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
We are adding an Academic Success standard to our SBG report cards that include standards for items like behavior/attendance.
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike?
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
#sblchat
if you only run a 4 min mile once and 5's all the other times....
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Make sure the feedback is actionable and provides direction for Ss in their learning.
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 - Grades can take on greater meaning when our Learners are prompted to REFLECT on the Learning and communicate with Teachers.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Grade less, be clear about what proficiency levels look like, maintain a growth mindset - grades are at that moment in time.
#sblchat
kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5:First & foremost, learning should come first.The grades will follow. If Ss want to earn the grade first, you are doing it wrong.
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
#sblchat
💛these conversations w/my teams. Learning that happens 4 the Ts is tremendous.What? Learning from r instruction is not just for Ss?
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
Yes! And teachers need to come together and agree on what evidence proves proficiency with that skill.
#sblchat
In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
I have 11 per term. Any 1's is an F, any 2's is a C and then combo of 3's and 4s are A or B. Its a little more detailed than that:)
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Make grading only reflective of most recent evidence judged against the course standards.
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A4 Clear outcomes Standards / examplars Ongoing self/peer feedback Timely T feedback Good Qs Practice & Reflection time
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
We need to give meaningful assignments first.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike?
#sblchat
ehaan308
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
So important & something with which many Ts struggle. Colleges don't do a good job of teaching Ts to create valid assessments.
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Assessments need to reflect the learning expected and be aligned correctly with the standards.
#sblchat
MianiD
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Grading should be one component of the relationship building & growth process of the Ss. Ts need to be mindful of the big pic.
#sblchat
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: Make sure performance criteria - & process - is transparent so that grading isn't guesswork for students; clear process for Ts
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 - Grades take on much greater meaning when regular FEEDBACK has been shared and responded to. Feedback improves Learning.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Struggling w standards based grading for Ss with IEPs? Differentiated Assessment & Grading Model:
https://t.co/mzV05Fee8f
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 By helping everyone understand the culture of mastery before charging forward changing a report card.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 The relationships between Ss and Ts is the foundation for making it meaningful.
#sblchat
JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Empower learners to be co-designers in the process and then celebrate the learning successes together.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Have quality benchmarks - Ts determine if they have been met - Ss and Ts meet to decide grade based on the benchmarks met
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I want to know it wasn’t a fluke. Can you do it again next time you run a mile? One piece of evidence isn’t enough; more recent!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A6: Provide time and resources for Ts to transition to SBG & just as much time and resources to Ss and Ps to understand it's value.
#sblchat
BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Yup!
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
We need to give meaningful assignments first.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike?
#sblchat
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
No need to grade every step if feedback is given along the way so the grade at the end will be valid
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 - Grades take on much greater meaning when regular FEEDBACK has been shared and responded to. Feedback improves Learning.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
RT Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike?
#sblchat
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 - Grades take on greater meaning after daily COLLABORATION!
#NoSurprises
#sblchat
DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5. Grades are meaningful if we use them as a guide to team up with our students to reach the goal: learning.
#sblchat
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 become useful when T's use assesments to drive instruction and feedback allows S's to continue to practice to improve to goal
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Depends....if the fastest was at the right event....becomes a record...if not... a stat.....
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17, @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
_Ashley_Torres
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Ss need to be included in the grading process. Can't be something only Ts control is w/o Ss input &a understanding gd process
#sblchat
luifeluife
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5. Providing feedback and always monitoring progress and instruction. S's need to feel they are part of big changes!
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
If most recent was a 4:00 mile - then I am a 4 min miler!!!
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
KatieBudrow
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5 I don't put anything in gradebook until the S says it can go in (& we are proud). It's based on evidence & aligned to standards.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 Main way we make grades meaningful is by grading on standards not assessment methods & having grades for standards not subjects.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: Moving grading towards a conversation between teachers and students as an ongoing learning process increases the value.
#sblchat
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 Clear targets, feedback and maybe grades shouldn't be written in stone...they should reflect learning from mistakes.
#sblchat
#edtech562
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Personal Best...?
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
Depends....if the fastest was at the right event....becomes a record...if not... a stat.....
#sblchat
In reply to @shirky17, @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
GradeSmarter
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Q5: Clearly communicate Standards,co-construct what success looks like, show a direct connection to questions on assessments
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 focus on quality over quantity!
#sblchat
shirky17
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
#sblchat
A5 self assessment and probably peer assessment should be part of a "grade"
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
As a track coach - this is where the analogy breaks down ... No such thing as fluke good races, BUT I see your point
#sblchat
In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
Yes! I always explain to my learners that I want to see consistency. I want predictability that they will get it next time I ask
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
I want to know it wasn’t a fluke. Can you do it again next time you run a mile? One piece of evidence isn’t enough; more recent!
#sblchat
In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
thierck
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5 By making it meaningful for students and teachers! It's all about evidence gathering to plan next steps.
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
This is so good!!!
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
Struggling w standards based grading for Ss with IEPs? Differentiated Assessment & Grading Model:
https://t.co/mzV05Fee8f
#sblchat
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: When Ss ask why I wait so long to report a grade, I reply, "We're too busy learning. We'll deal with it when we have to."
#sblchat
Hamm_Ed
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5 perhaps we can increase feedback frequency and "grades" from more than a single source. Sorry I'm late. Yellow from
#MTY
Mexico
#sblchat
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
#sjhcats
are you listening?
#sblchat
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5 Main way we make grades meaningful is by grading on standards not assessment methods & having grades for standards not subjects.
#sblchat
In reply to @garnet_hillman
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Hmm is a reference to attendance about the student or the family? But if standard means changes can be made to support behaviours...
#sblchat
In reply to @ehaan308
NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours
#sblchat
DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
Do you use a preponderance of evidence then?
#sblchat
In reply to @MeganCMoMo
Hamm_Ed
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
Sounds like
#design
for Edu to me. Good point.
#sblchat
In reply to @technolandy
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5 What happens with classroom assessments is more important than the report card.
#sblchat
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5 By always connecting meaningful feedback any time there is a score. A score is nothing without it.
#sblchat
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
YES!
#sblchat
NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours
#sblchat
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
That works too! (Especially if no one else saw it!)
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In reply to @RoweRikW
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Yes, but that is your level only when you do it at least once and preferably two more times.
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
And chances to improve the assigned grade even after a report is made?
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In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
And we deal with it once students have had the opportunity to develop mastery, not before.
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In reply to @aollenburg
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Completely agree! Was one of the hurdles I had when I first started SBL!
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours
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Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
A5 Students should feel a part of the process, the "grade book" shouldn't be a secret they learn when report cards come out.
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Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A4 Clear targets, feedback and maybe grades shouldn't be written in stone...they should reflect learning from mistakes.
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#edtech562
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
I respectfully disagree :)
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In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
MarkClementsEdu
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
When I've empowered Ss to grade themselves, they're often harder on themselves than I am.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Report cards are meaningless without the Ss understanding of how it was created and what it really means
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leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
A5 What happens with classroom assessments is more important than the report card.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 How can grading and assessment practices build student confidence?
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Yes, I suppose. I look for clear evidence and consider consistency and predictability.
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In reply to @DRich0696
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
I ran a 2 minute 8 sec 800m ONCE (many years ago!) - didn’t mean that was my level.
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
j_ozbolt
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 By constantly showing Ss learning is a journey and growth is the goal not just a number or a letter.
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kirk_humphreys
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: By building a classroom environment and grading around a growth mindset, Ss will grow and begin to learn from their mistakes.
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RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 - To
#MakeItStick
, we use every other day Formative Assessments (FAs) as Proficiency or Exit Tickets to retain more Learning!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 When students know that their learning is never done and proficiency can always be improved, the expectation is success.
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AgEd4ME
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
#teachag
- if you havent yet, worth your time to visit
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on grading. Could change you forever.
@NAAE
Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
If Ss know how grades are created they have total control over their grade
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 How can grading and assessment practices build student confidence?
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
They can improve whenever they want - until the school year ends.
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In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
If - then (- else) is also a computation....in programming (Visual Basic a million years ago!)
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#mathiseverywhere
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
RT Q6 How can grading and assessment practices build student confidence?
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RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 - We choose to NOT grade our Formative Assessments (FAs) until our Learning reaches minimal Proficiency. Then we grade.
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aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Making sure Ss understand the power in the word, "YET".
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MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Why not? If you ran a 2:08 ... then you ran a 2:08. On that day that was your level. Assuming fairly run
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In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Ensure there is always a pathway to proficiency through growth, revision, & continued emphasis on 'what is' vs 'what was'
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
For sure! And I teach logic statements in my geometry classes! Ha!
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technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
If - then (- else) is also a computation....in programming (Visual Basic a million years ago!)
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#mathiseverywhere
In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Did a lot of synthesizing around "design thinking" last year!
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In reply to @Hamm_Ed
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 - Today was our 4th day of classes. Our Learners are deepening their Confidence based on our Collaborative Learning.
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#1st5Days
leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Ss' beliefs in their own learning predict their outcomes. Any grading practices that harms this must be abandoned.
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leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Ss who struggle with a skill are most vulnerable. We must purposefully build confidence in these Ss.
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leeannjung
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 It only can if it is paired with confidence-instilling feedback!
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 By helping students to have a clear sense of Where am I going? Where am I now? and What do I do to close the gap?
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
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a6 when Ss have choice in showing what they know(assessment) & grade changes continually to show their continued learning
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JohnSchlender
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 Emphasize the process of learning during the goal setting process with the grade as the outcome of commitment to the goal
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DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: The assessment + feedback = growth chain builds confidence.
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technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
Well I ran it, ...but tweaked my ankle. So I had to retire and can't run again.....wish it were different 😜
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In reply to @kenoc7, @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
By using logic rules.
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In reply to @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
MikeSzczepanik
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 - Confidence is seeing that effort based on good feedback produced improved results ... having control of one's destiny
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BradLatzke
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
#sblchat
is rolling again. Thx
@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW
!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thanks to everyone who joined
#sblchat
tonight! It is wonderful to be back with this community of learners. See you all next week!
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 confidence comes from feedback from T and also from knowing that there are more opportunities to show proficiency. Keep trying
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aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Which makes conversations and relationships with Ss so important!
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 By helping students to have a clear sense of Where am I going? Where am I now? and What do I do to close the gap?
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Thank you to my co-moderator
@garnet_hillman
for our thought-provoking questions tonight on Grading!
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technolandy
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 regular descriptive feedback can tell them what they are doing well at, and "an" area to focus on (2 stars & a wish as a start)
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NKleinmeyer
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: Grading & Assessments are part of the learning process. Let them know we care and they will trust us with their learning.
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datiepriest
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6 Strategic support coupled with short-term wins helps Ss who need more differentiated learning experiences
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DrMarianaAdame
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6. Changing the perception of grades. Let's focus on the progress, learn to see what there is, what we have.
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MarkClementsEdu
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: I think student confidence escalates when they realize Ts are allies in the learning process, not judges or rule enforcers.
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Ms_Heilsberg
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Yet is the most powerful word for a student can understand
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aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Making sure Ss understand the power in the word, "YET".
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Hamm_Ed
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
When they are directly connected to the actual quality of the product which has a real impact on an authentic user group.
#pbl
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
Huge kudos to my partner in
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@RoweRikW
! Please give him a big thank you.
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SuptTallman
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A5: Provide time and resources for Ts to transition to SBG & just as much time and resources to Ss and Ps to understand it's value.
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thank you
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
for a great first chat of the year!
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BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
#sblchat
So glad this chat is back.
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
and all my other sbl colleagues great learning tonight.
TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: Also, make the learning progression/scaffolding transparent so that Ss can see how skills in minutiae fits with bigger picture
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LucyMelchert
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Yes!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 When students know that their learning is never done and proficiency can always be improved, the expectation is success.
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kenoc7
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Is it over already. I’ve been 4 minutes behind all night. Thanks Garnet and Rik and all participants for great discussion.
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In reply to @garnet_hillman
WillCounty92
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
That is a lesson from coaching which would benefit all teachers
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In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
We owe our very best to our Learners...every day!
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BarbMiller12
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
#sblchat
So glad this chat is back.
@RoweRikW
@garnet_hillman
and all my other sbl colleagues great learning tonight.
DaveWheeler11
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Love that!!! Workimg together to help students learn, allies!!!
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#TES
MarkClementsEdu
Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
A6: I think student confidence escalates when they realize Ts are allies in the learning process, not judges or rule enforcers.
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DRich0696
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thanks
@garnet_hillman
and
@RoweRikW
for leading tonight - great to be back in the learning loop with
#sblchat
Katiemissu
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Agreed!
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#edtech562
aollenburg
Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Making sure Ss understand the power in the word, "YET".
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TomSchimmer
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Big props to
@garnet_hillman
&
@RoweRikW
for keeping the
#sblchat
rolling along for another year! Have a great rest of the week everyone!
ElviraCaso
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Separate is not equal.Asses the whole child in knowledge,content and developmental progress.Align assigments for all standards
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RoweRikW
Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Thank you Megan for all you do for our learning and the learning of your Students!
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MeganCMoMo
Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Thank you
@RoweRikW
and
@garnet_hillman
for a great first chat of the year!
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