#sblchat Archive


Wednesday September 6, 2017
9:00 PM EDT

  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #sblchat! @garnet_hillman and I are pleased to welcome you back to your Crew that focuses on Standards-Based Learning & Grading!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Good evening and welcome to our first #sblchat of the 17-18 school year! Please start intros - name, location, role.
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:00 PM EDT
    Ken, thrilled to share with you in #sblchat Tonight!
    In reply to @kenoc7, @leeannjung, @ASCD
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Rik, a Facilitator of Learning with a math focus, is honored to co-moderate tonight's #sblchat with our Dear Friend @garnet_hillman.
  • TeachinTexas Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    #SBLchat Hi friends! Kristen Whiddon from Little Elm, TX (Dallas area). I teach 1st grade!!😃
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    hello #sblchat paul from O H I O, cutting sabbatical short to take a part time HS job to help out "family" (alma mater)
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Kristen, welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @TeachinTexas, @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:01 PM EDT
    Hi Kristen! #sblchat
    In reply to @TeachinTexas
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Hello #sblchat! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area. So happy to be back with you all!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    I'm Garnet, an ed consultant from the Chicagoland area. Thrilled to be back with my fantastic co-moderator @RoweRikW! #sblchat
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Jonathan Tallman, Supt from Southern IL #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Good evening Paul! #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    #sblchat Colleen high school world history teacher! Love #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Paul, always pleased to learn and laugh with you! #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Hello friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Ken O’Connor, author/consultant back home in Toronto after Glens Falls(NY) SD yesterday. Also watching Federer Del Potro @ US Open. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Great to be back to #sblchat . Dave - HS SS teacher in Iowa
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Hello pal!! #imissyou #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:02 PM EDT
    Katie, we are so pleased to be with You! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    We have 6 questions: Q1, Q2, Q3 for you tonight in #sblchat. Please respond with A1, A2, A3 and our hashtag of #sblchat so all can see!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Welcome Jonathan! #sblchat
    In reply to @SuptTallman
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Jonathan, Welcome! #sblchat
    In reply to @SuptTallman
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hey everyone!! So excited to be back at #sblchat . Kirk here from Chicago Northshore. Teacher of 6-8th grade double accelerated math.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Colleen! #sblchat
    In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Rik! Happy first chat! #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Denise from Nebraska #sblchat
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Datie from Alabama Principal of Student Services. Hello everyone.☺ #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Colleen, happy to learn alongside you tonight! #sblchat
    In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Good evening Ken! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • _Ashley_Torres Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Good evening #sblchat ! Ashley, Teacher & encourager of technology, 4th grade in WV.
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Tom from Vancouver, BC joining in tonight from Montreal, QC #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    So stoked! #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hey #sblchat gang!! Megan, from Schaumburg Il- high school math teacher. Excited to be chatting tonight.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hey Dave - always great to chat with you! #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi #sblchat Kinda from Baltimore County, MD.
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hello! I am Mike from hear Rochester NY (Hilton HS) Biology teacher #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
    Hi Katie. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    We have 6 questions for your consideration tonight - don't forget to include #sblchat with your responses!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi there friend! Miss seeing you every day! #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Dave, it's a pleasure to team up with you tonight in #sblchat FOR Learning!
    In reply to @DRich0696
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Good evening Datie! #sblchat
    In reply to @datiepriest
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi Ken! Hey, I'll be at Corwin on the 23rd (?) of October. You'll be there too, yes? #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Mariana, from México. Special education coordinator. First time here. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi Tom! So glad you could join us tonight. #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    John Schlender, Mayville, WI Grade 3 - 8 @ @1stEdResources Happy that #sblchat is back!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:04 PM EDT
    Hi Ashley! #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Jason HS Dean of Students from IL. Glad to be here! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Kirk, just the sound of accelerated math has my catching my breath! #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Lee Ann Jung hootsuite tweeting from Monterrey, MX tonight. CAO of @ascdsgc & former sped professor #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Brad in Minnesota joining #sblchat. Former international school leader.
  • jercook73 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Jerry, Principal at Wheeling High School in IL #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi Megan! #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    It's been too long, Rik. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Pete, Supt from suburban Chicago. Heard that today is 10th birthday of # on Twitter. Can't think of a better way to celebrate than #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Welcome Denise! #sblchat
    In reply to @ddigiova
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi Mike, thanks for joining us! #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Welcome! This is an awesome group for collaboration! #sblchat
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Glad to be here! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi! How are you enjoying the big change you took on this year? #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    #sblchat Hi Rik, Garnet and all. @BarbMiller12 ELA Instructional Coachfrom Katy, Tx. Harvey hasn't got us down.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Hi John! #sblchat
    In reply to @JohnSchlender, @1stEdResources
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
    Great that you’ll be there. #sblchat I hope lots of #sblchat peeps will be there too.
    In reply to @KatieBudrow
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Q1 coming up in 1 minute... #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Our #MHSPrecal Learners are using this as a road map of our Semester one learning journey with Standards-Based Learning. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Greetings, Datie! #sblchat
    • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Datie from Alabama Principal of Student Services. Hello everyone.☺ #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Yay! Thanks for joining us Jason. #sblchat
    In reply to @j_ozbolt
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Hi Brad! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    What did I miss Garnet? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Megan, we're excited to see you here! #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:03 PM EDT
      Hey #sblchat gang!! Megan, from Schaumburg Il- high school math teacher. Excited to be chatting tonight.
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Good evening Jerry! #sblchat
    In reply to @jercook73
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:06 PM EDT
    Welcome Kinda! #sblchat
    In reply to @GradeSmarter
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Q1 Why do you grade? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Mike! #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    I am really enjoying it, thanks for asking! Dave - I moved into full time consulting and writing this year. #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696, @MeganCMoMo
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Jerry! My mother-in-law lives right behind your press box. Heard a lot of great band practice over the summer. #sblchat
    In reply to @jercook73
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Let's all welcome Mariana to her first #sblchat Tonight!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:07 PM EDT
    Hi Pete! Thanks for joining us tonight. #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 The purpose of grading is to communicate where students are in relation to the standards at a given moment in time. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 - Our public school still requires quarterly grades. Our grades aim to communicate the Proficiency Levels of our Learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Hi Barb! Great to chat with you. #sblchat
    In reply to @BarbMiller12
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Jerry, we're pleased to welcome you! #sblchat
    In reply to @jercook73
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: Only because I have to - parents need to know learning progress of their kids. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Let our Celebration begin! #sblchat
    • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:05 PM EDT
      Pete, Supt from suburban Chicago. Heard that today is 10th birthday of # on Twitter. Can't think of a better way to celebrate than #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1 - I assess in order to give feedback - move students in a desired direction #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    #sblchat A1 i will grade b/c i am told that i have to ?????
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    To know what my students have mastered and know what needs to be retaught and who needs what #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    Barb, we welcome You! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    #sblchat This is the Corwin institute that @KatieBudrow mentioned.
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
    A1: First instinct is to say I don't grade.I provide feedback to help learners progress on towards understanding. #sblchat
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 to let Ss and Ps know where they are at in the learning journey at that point in time. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 You grade because someone else says you have to. You assess because it leads to more learning. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    That's fantastic! Great jump for you; you'll be successful in anything you decide to do. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MeganCMoMo
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Ditto! #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:08 PM EDT
      A1: First instinct is to say I don't grade.I provide feedback to help learners progress on towards understanding. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    Here We Grow!! #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1 To communicate learning at a given moment in time. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    #sblchat A1 - give a grade to show progress with the feedback needed to progress more
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
    A1: "Grade" the verb = the summative purpose of assessment, which is about the verification of learning & the reporting to others #sblchat
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 a grade is a nice summary, but is useless if there is no feedback to act upon #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    RT Q1 Why do you grade? #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 The primary purpose 4 clear & accurate data on performance, thus a grade, is 2 inform my instruction! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Feedback is where it's at!! #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    #sblchat A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Bring on the laughter, Paul! #sblchat
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    Luis Fernando directly from Mexico City #CDMX. Special Education Counselor. Excited to start the conversation! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
    A1 - We grade to communicate student achievement on standards to whomever has the right to know about a student’s achievement. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • _Ashley_Torres Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1:Love to say I always grade to assess learning-reality is that sometimes it's because I'm required 9 grades per subject per MP #sblchat
  • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1. A great professor once told me that grading--like all activities in school--should ultimately promote student learning. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1: I like the word, "assess" way better than grade. We grade to see where a kid is in a moment in time in their learning. #sblchat
  • fostermiracle Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A move towards SBL can help change the focus from grades to learning and growth. #sblchat #edchat
    • neiltyson Sep 6 @ 10:56 AM EDT
      In school, students cheat because the system values high grades more than students value learning.
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    LOUDER, Brad! #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:09 PM EDT
      A1 You grade because someone else says you have to. You assess because it leads to more learning. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    #sblchat grading without feedback is useless. But you can give feedback without a grade
    • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      #sblchat A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    A1...loaded question.☺ To provide a guide towards mastery. I would have provided a different answer 3-5 years ago. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    Assesss is definitely the best word! #sblchat
    • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      A1: I like the word, "assess" way better than grade. We grade to see where a kid is in a moment in time in their learning. #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    #sblchat A1 2 inform Ss & Ps of where Ss r on their path to learning the standard. I hate the word grade; prefer feedback #SJHCATS
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
    My thoughts exactly! #sblchat
    • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:11 PM EDT
      #sblchat grading without feedback is useless. But you can give feedback without a grade
      • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
        #sblchat A1 is grading the best way to achieve what you said you were attempting to do??
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Greetings, Luis! #sblchat
    • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:10 PM EDT
      Luis Fernando directly from Mexico City #CDMX. Special Education Counselor. Excited to start the conversation! #sblchat
  • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1 I think we grade because we believe families/community/colleges expect it. #sblchat
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1 To gather evidence to enact next steps in the teaching/learning cycle. Action required on both ends. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    We are going to be talking healthy grading practices Sept 16 @ Schaumburg HS for FREE!! Join us! Register: https://t.co/lkavfkbxME #sblchat
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    A1: Great question, and a better question would be why do we have to?! Feedback is so much more effective..and let it inform inst. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    I've gathered enough evidence to make that assessment of you! Now waiting for confirmation with most recent evidence. #sblchat #readyourbook
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MeganCMoMo
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Whew. Dinner had me running late but - Ian from BCs smokey Shuswap looking forward to the return of #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
    Hi Tom! Great to chat with you. #sblchat
    In reply to @thierck
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1: The symbols (noun) are not as important as the action (verb) of certifying achievement vs standards; that's unavoidable #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:13 PM EDT
    A1. I believe that grades should be use only to know where is our student standing. Is she learning the skill? #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Well, if its only because its expected but no mention on necessity - then should we reconsider? #sblchat
    • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      A1 I think we grade because we believe families/community/colleges expect it. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    I believe grades show achievement not progress. Ach’t and progress aren’t the same. #sblchat
    In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1. We assess to keep track of the student's progress. Provide some feedback o or to have a better frame of their learning process. #sblchat
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Just had dinner with @TomSchimmer and could not let him go the chat alone! #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @TomSchimmer
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Hi Ian! #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    A1...I also prefer assess over grade. Assessment allows you to address learning patterns whereas grades = what it is right now... #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
    Ian, we've been awaiting your arrival in #sblchat ...
    • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:12 PM EDT
      Whew. Dinner had me running late but - Ian from BCs smokey Shuswap looking forward to the return of #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    A1 Some say purpose 4 grades is 2 accurately report what Ss know. But reporting isn't the purpose. 1/2 #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    We should have brought our laptops to dinner haha! #sblchat
    In reply to @thierck, @garnet_hillman
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Katie from Maine joining a little late. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Love to have a bunch of BCers in tonight's #sblchat
    In reply to @thierck, @garnet_hillman, @TomSchimmer
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:15 PM EDT
    Good evening Katie! #sblchat
    In reply to @Katiemissu
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Q2 Who do you grade for? #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    That is a crazy number of grades!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @_Ashley_Torres
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    YES!!! I'll post a hashtag to follow and resources if you resist the temptation #sblchat
    In reply to @BarbMiller12, @koliver555
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Katie, welcome! #sblchat
  • jercook73 Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    We should also grade/assess to inform next steps in our instruction #sblchat
  • SraWienhold Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Hola #sblchat! Allison, Spanish teacher in Iowa joining in late
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    #sblchat but progress should be allowed to continue based on level of achievment
    • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:14 PM EDT
      I believe grades show achievement not progress. Ach’t and progress aren’t the same. #sblchat
      In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • effortfuleduktr Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    A1 - So Ss understand their level of understanding. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:16 PM EDT
    Allison, pleased to share with you in #sblchat Tonight!
    In reply to @SraWienhold
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 the S and the P to give a quick summary. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 - We grade as a means of communication for our Administration, Parents, our Learners, and colleges/universities. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 IMHO traditional grading is for outside of school - parents, universities, etc. When made meaningful it is also for Ss and Ts. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2: First and foremost the students. It is their learning and should have ownership of it. Secondly, it gives me an understanding. #sblchat
  • mexusmx Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1: Assessment done right served to guide instructional pace and help Ts refocus or redouble their efforts. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A1 I try not to give unclear symbols to denote achievement based on tasks...but I do like giving feedback based on learning! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Hi Allison! #sblchat
    In reply to @SraWienhold
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2 - Grades are judgments ... at least in Ss eyes #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    #sblchat parents, school, students.. wish Ss never saw grades til the end then focus on knowledge not grades or passing/failing
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    A2: I issue grades because I am told to & I only issue them 3 times a term. The rest is student-scored and based on feedback. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
    Hi Ian. I hope you and all are safe out there in BC with all the fires. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: I grade for parents. Students don't need grades, but many want them - they only need assessment feedback. #sblchat
  • _Ashley_Torres Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: I assess learning and growth for myself. I give letter/# grades for the parents and students. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2: For Ss, so they can know that certain achievement w/ standards has been reached. For Ps, so they can be informed abt child #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    Absolutely!!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @BarbMiller12
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    #sblchat A2 we grade for the scholarship committees and college admission offices so they can rank students
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    A2 I think of grades as a common language for student, parent, and teacher. So the grading would be communication for all three. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
    So far - but I don't want to tempt the fires! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    RT Q2 Who do you grade for? #sblchat
  • SraWienhold Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2: I assess for students to see where they are at & to provide me with data to guide instruction #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2 In the past it was for the system. Making the shift to grades as part of the learning process for the learners. #sblchat
  • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    There is a absolutely a necessity for assessment and feedback. Sometimes I wish that was the focus instead of "grades." #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way #sblchat
  • effortfuleduktr Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    A2 - The stakeholders...lame answer, but it's the truth. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    SO sad, I don't want judgments or feelings involved in my evaluation of learning. Not given from me and not felt by them. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
    EXACTLY! #sblchat
    • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      Agreed! Grades show pass/fail not knowledge learned. Ss only think I'm failing not I need to work harder
      In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • TeachinTexas Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: For myself🙃We use data in our PLCs, to guide instruction, build groups.. BUT I'm making the switch to KIDS though! #whyimhere #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 IOW, the info is for Ss and me, but the main reason to reduce words to a symbol is 4 efficient data use. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2 Scores are primarily for me 2 inform my instruction. It's a reduction of the feedback data, which is for Ss. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Bravo! Your classes are about learning, not grading. #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      A2: I issue grades because I am told to & I only issue them 3 times a term. The rest is student-scored and based on feedback. #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2. I grade for me, to know if I'm on the right instructional direction for the student. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    Truth! #sblchat
    • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    #sblchat assessment and feedback should occur almost constantly
    In reply to @ddigiova, @MeganCMoMo
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    That's why we are in this chat:) So we can work the movement and take the steps to change the focus to learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @ddigiova
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:20 PM EDT
    A2: We (educators) can't minimize the importance of synthesizing learning results; we know, but Ps need access w/out=overwhelmed #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth #sblchat
  • vamp_kris2102 Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Lotus Esprit S1 No Reserve (1978) #Lotus https://t.co/j6MPgf3rlz Complete number matching car, VIN 621H, L31 #sblchat
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    A2: To communicates Ss current level of performance in relation to the learning targets/standards at a given point in time. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    You got it, Garnet. Sadly also for athletic eligibility. Meaningful for S P and T if grades are for standards NOT subjects. #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:17 PM EDT
      A2 IMHO traditional grading is for outside of school - parents, universities, etc. When made meaningful it is also for Ss and Ts. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    #STOPIT #sblchat
    • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
      Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    We don't teach Ts the right way to give feedback so they resort to grades #sblchat
    • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:19 PM EDT
      A1 most grade because its all they know how to do. We've never taught/shown T's a better way #sblchat
  • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    Agreed! #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17, @MeganCMoMo
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
    We grade for T's to find out who knows what in their classroom, next steps in teaching. Also for S's for feedback on where they r #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    #sblchat correct..T's were never taught how to give high quality feedback
    In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2: Grading doesn't necessarily = giving letter grades. We have to know & be able to articulate the difference to all stakeholders #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    #sblchat A2 it should b 4 & with Ss. Ps & S dis want a grade 2 b in compliance w/ community expectations. Need 2 work on changing expts.
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning. #sblchat
  • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Absolutely, grading should reflect student growth and progress with clear feedback #sblchat
    • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:18 PM EDT
      A2 I think of grades as a common language for student, parent, and teacher. So the grading would be communication for all three. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2 - Who SHOULD be grades for? #sblchat #realquestion
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2. We should be grading to inform our instructional behaviors inclusive of data and student voice #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    I put grades on Permanent Record cards, as that's still a rule in BC - and I'm willing to translate for patents as we shift #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    Yes exactly! #sblchat
    In reply to @TomSchimmer
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
    A2 Wide variety of audiences & dependent on a variety of factors. Must be for Ss, Ts, Ps & other (occasionally) required audiences #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Check out "The Culture of Feedback" by @plugusin and @mrscienceteach #sblchat
    • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      #sblchat correct..T's were never taught how to give high quality feedback
      In reply to @Ms_Heilsberg
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A sad truth. School leaders must lead shift away from this harmful belief about grading. #sblchat
    • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:21 PM EDT
      Grades are thought of by parents as tickets to scholarships ... ranking of self worth #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    Yes! Yes! Yes! #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning. #sblchat
  • Algebrainwords Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    1st night back teaching. Students smiled when I told them they will discover their untapped potential in my class #suptchat #sblchat #scchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    If we only provide grades for 2 days each grading period the focus is on feedback and learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @ddigiova, @MeganCMoMo
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:23 PM EDT
    A2 sadly, I can "grade" pretty accurately knowing a few factors (family, solicit-Econ, gender etc) IF she/afl not being used... #sblchat
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A: For others who want to compare and sort rather than grow and teach ALL students #sblchat
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
    A2: We GRADE for the system. But we should ASSESS for informed feedback for our Ss and informed instruction for us. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Q3 What are some different things a grade can represent or include? #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Important to recognize the differences between grading and assessing. #sblchat
    In reply to @SuptTallman
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Grading promotes competition rather than collaboration in the classroom. #sblchat
    • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      A: For others who want to compare and sort rather than grow and teach ALL students #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:25 PM EDT
    Too often students ask/say that a grade is what s teacher gives them. Needs to connect with authentic S work (on Learning) #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: A grade should show where a student is on their journey to learning content. Should only include academic proficiency. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 - The ONLY thing our grades represent is the most recent Proficiency Levels associated with each of our Standards. #NoKleenex #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 Traditional grading represents academic achievement, behaviors, and growth combined. SBG separates these for clarity. #sblchat
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3 it should include the students current achievement in relations to the standards. Not include behavior should be separate. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2: Remember that in the orthodoxy of assessment, "formative grades" are an oxymoron; Grading for feedback=mixed-message/purpose #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    #sblchat leaders need to help Ts grow and provide openness to allow Ts to be creative in grading
    • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:24 PM EDT
      I agree. Leaders must be intentional in providing strategic feedback to Ts with the expressed intent grow & develop them.
      In reply to @shirky17, @Ms_Heilsberg
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    YES, YES, YES!!! #sblchat
    • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:22 PM EDT
      A2. We might never get away from the "have to" grade but we can make sure the grading process promotes learning. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A3: Some grades still include behavior. #sblchat
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
    A2. Grading is important for some parents or most of them. It is a mindset pretty intrincated in the Mex Ed system. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Not yours and not mine... #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    Never, ever. #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    This has been the biggest struggle for Ts at my school #sblchat sbg needs to show separate growth not combined
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    An important distinction that many educators do not understand. #sblchat
    • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A2: Remember that in the orthodoxy of assessment, "formative grades" are an oxymoron; Grading for feedback=mixed-message/purpose #sblchat
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A3 I know what it shouldn't include - behaviour, effort, social factors, class (perceived) effort #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    YES! #sblchat
    • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:26 PM EDT
      A3: Proficiency and Progress. They SHOULD NOT include behavior or compliance. #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    #sblchat A3 unfortunately many grades reflect behaviors instead of strictly academics. Another change we need to implement. #sjhcats
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
    A2 When I graded it was for students, parents and recognition. I assessed learning but a grade wasn't needed for that. #sblchat #edtech562
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    RT Q3 What are some different things a grade can represent or include? #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Sadly, I used to though...regrets of the past. #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 - grades CAN include a “hodgepodge” of factors; they SHOULD only include individual achievement of standards. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3 can include success towards a learning goal, success to a specific standard, work ethic, attitude, responsibility, lots of stuff #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    A3. A grade should represent the progress the student is making. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    Many students see grades as a representation of self worth ... hence the evolution of "grade-grubbers" and "I give up-ers" #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:28 PM EDT
    I committed every grading malpractice in the book! Until I learned there was another way... #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    ditto #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    I think this is a struggle many teachers have when moving from a traditional grading system. #sblchat
    • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:27 PM EDT
      This has been the biggest struggle for Ts at my school #sblchat sbg needs to show separate growth not combined
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3: "grade" can include everything from academic achievement to effort to compliance to participation #sblchat Grades must be defined
  • _Ashley_Torres Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3: Grades should correspond with the ability to meet the standard consistently. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Agree. Sadly, many students associate part of their identity with a grade. #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Thanks for letting me off the hook. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @RoweRikW
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    A3. Everything is overlapped. Sometimes progress is diminished bc of a behavioral issue or backwards. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Me too! I learned better though through #sblchat!
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Me too! So happy now that I've changed and I can see my Ss change for the better #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
    Lots of conversations starters here! Esp as universities aren't always happy w their 4 year completions - they want learners! #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Make sure to follow all the wonderful people you are chatting with tonight! #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3 - Feedback MUST be included - otherwise it doesn't move students to improve #sblchat
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Andy from MN joining #sblchat a little late. A3: Grades should empower our Ss to collaborate with us to report their current learning.
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    The struggle has been real at my school #sblchat
    In reply to @ehaan308
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3 An achievement grade can only reflect achievement. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3 An approaches to learning/behavior grade should only reflect that construct. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Please... #STOPIT! #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
    Have you become a #sucklesseveryday strategist too? #separatedatbirth #sblchat
    In reply to @PeaceLoveMHeine, @RoweRikW
  • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Great point. It's important to remember that those kids are just reacting to the system in which they live. #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    I must emphasize proficiency/ach't & progress are related but different. If grades are about progress we need diff’t descriptors. #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    It's 2017 people, let's hope we're long past this one! Sadly, in some spots, I'm not sure we are. #sblchat
    • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:29 PM EDT
      A3 A grade can reflect how many kleenex boxes a student brought in to the teacher. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    This! #sblchat
    • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • ddigiova Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Love this! #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    Andy, jump in Friend! #sblchat
    In reply to @aollenburg
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
    A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do. #sblchat
  • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Yea, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message #sblchat
    • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Me too. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @DRich0696, @RoweRikW
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3 the more I think & read & share etc the less certain I am about what grades mean....even less sure about %s.... #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Yes, I agree. I use summative scores for grades, but consider not only that for evidence. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7
  • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message #sblchat
    • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
      A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Hardest conversation with Ss when you have to explain how their grade shows what they know not how nice they are #sblchat
    • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do. #sblchat
  • Kenny_pal2 Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    Let's talk about " #sblchat " right now - Chat channel (free) https://t.co/cyLBOD4XGh
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
    A3 Grades should represent the most recent evidence of progress toward meeting the standard. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Agreed. Both important, but separate. #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
      I must emphasize proficiency/ach't & progress are related but different. If grades are about progress we need diff’t descriptors. #sblchat
      In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    YES! #sblchat
    • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system. #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Here's my challenge: we have language arts for a grade, but made up of reading/writing/speaking + competencies. & I hate to average #sblchat
    In reply to @j_ozbolt
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    But many universities seem willing to accept huge first year failure rates. (Freshmen = cash cows) #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @BradLatzke
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Time to change the system #sblchat
    • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Because the world rewards them for that mentality. Problem not the kids but the system. #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman, @MikeSzczepanik
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Can you use a logic rule? #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:33 PM EDT
    Exactly - the system creates the ideal 'A student'. #sblchat
    In reply to @WillCounty92, @MikeSzczepanik
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm? #sblchat
  • JanetChowMSc Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Not sure they realize what they're doing #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Sometimes the 'most frequent' or 'consistent' is more accurate; can be 'more' recent vs 'most.' With complexity, +1 time is needed. #sblchat
    In reply to @JohnSchlender
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Welcome to the dark side!! C'mon in, the water is fine!!! 😀 #sblchat
    • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      A3 the more I think & read & share etc the less certain I am about what grades mean....even less sure about %s.... #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:34 PM EDT
    Our Learners asked us this week to be honest in our grading and to make it pure learning! SBG at work! #sblchat
    • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Hardest conversation with Ss when you have to explain how their grade shows what they know not how nice they are #sblchat
      • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:31 PM EDT
        A3: Boiled down...a "grade," however you'd like to define it, should correctly communicate what a student knows and is able to do. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 Align assessment, instruction, & practice to the standards. Report where Ss are at that moment w/their learning and proficiency. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 - Accuracy can be improved by NOT averaging, NOT including zeros, NOT including Extra Credit, NOT including bonus points. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: The moment you include anything that represents behavior (Extra Cred, practice...) into a grade, you have invalidated the grade #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A3 Homework completion is a behavior, not achievement. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4 Reading What's Worth Fighting Against in Grading can help! :-) #sblchat https://t.co/uSuVix8gpb
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Zeros = failure. That is students mindset. There is no feedback, nor progress. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    When there is more college debt than credit card debt, you have a univ. system focused on other things than learning. #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @technolandy
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    What about Pepsi caps? #sblchat
    In reply to @kirk_humphreys
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    A4: Decrease the range of numerical ratings to something less than 100 for goodness sake. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
    Very true. #sblchat
    In reply to @BradLatzke, @kenoc7, @technolandy
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4 - Accuracy is by empowering Learners to PERSEVERE in our Learning through various reassessment options. #TakeLast Grade #sblchat
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    This. I cannot say it any better ... #sblchat
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      A4 Align assessment, instruction, & practice to the standards. Report where Ss are at that moment w/their learning and proficiency. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Yes Kirk...Pepsi caps. #sblchat
    In reply to @KatieBudrow, @kirk_humphreys
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    And Ss see it as a done deal not that it's something that still has be competed #alllearningisimportant #sblchat
    • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      Zeros = failure. That is students mindset. There is no feedback, nor progress. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    A4: Ensure assess only learning (validity) and ensure that teachers determine grades in a similar, likeminded process (reliability) #sblchat
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    Q4: Toss out computerized grading programs. Teachers not computers determine grades. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    But if the "big ones" change - others will follow (thanks to @MIT for being one of these trendchangers!) #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @BradLatzke, @MIT
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    We should have no subject grades except for grades 11 and 12. Through grade 10 only grades for standards. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
    #sblchat The zero conversation drives me crazy. Many TS still caught up in punishment. "That'll teach them" philosophy.
    • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
      Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message #sblchat
      • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
        A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    RT Q4 How can accuracy be improved in the grading paradigm? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 - Accuracy can be improved by setting clear Goals and keeping those Goals ever present in the minds of our Learners. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    I am making two changes ... No grades for individual assignments (only feedback) and no homework unless Ss assigns to self. #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4 Looking at trends/tendencies rather than averages. Making sure that only the proficiency on standards are what are included. #sblchat
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A3 A grade should represent the task it's attached to, thus a dilemma of giving a singular subject grade. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4: Communicate clear targets and provide feedback to indicate where the learner is in relation to reaching the target. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Teachers and their Learners in Collaboration... #sblchat #Reflection
    • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      Q4: Toss out computerized grading programs. Teachers not computers determine grades. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Been biggest fight. Don't use grades to punish Ss! #sblchat
    • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      #sblchat The zero conversation drives me crazy. Many TS still caught up in punishment. "That'll teach them" philosophy.
      • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:32 PM EDT
        Yes, Ts need to find alternative methods to recover that data! Zeros often send the wrong message #sblchat
        • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:30 PM EDT
          A3 Missing data cannot be recorded as a zero. It's missing data. #sblchat
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    A4: Accuracy is immediately improved by shifting the mindset & ditching "grades" & "averaging" and measuring progress toward stds. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    With better written scales or rubrics that define what has to be shown to be proficient. It's work but worth it. #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    #sblchat shouldnt they ALL get A's? wasnt our goal to have them learn "everything", why settle for less than A
    In reply to @garnet_hillman, @WillCounty92, @MikeSzczepanik
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:37 PM EDT
    Love those changes! #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • JanetChowMSc Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Are they all considered equal? #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Agreed, life long learning is not just a catch phrase; it is real and begins w/developing "academic grit" #sblchat #kidsdeserveit
    • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:36 PM EDT
      A4 - Accuracy is by empowering Learners to PERSEVERE in our Learning through various reassessment options. #TakeLast Grade #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Sure....I'll go with mode (because I like Pi 😜) but I also have LOs along the top of my "grade book" instead of tasks -.... #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    Couldn't agree more! As @tguskey makes clear, more categories = increase in potential misclassification. % sys = enemy of accuracy #sblchat
    • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:35 PM EDT
      A4: Decrease the range of numerical ratings to something less than 100 for goodness sake. #sblchat
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4 Alignment is key! Assess what was taught, where you spent time, what mattered most #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4 Provide crystal clear descriptors and definitions of levels of proficiency for each standard being assessed. #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
    A4: Stop using grades as rewards/compensation for completing tasks. #sblchat
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4: Remember that assignments are practice. Ss need time to make and learn from mistakes which should never be included in a grade #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    ... "so do o have to figure out which Learning Outcomes are more valuable? Based on dedicated time? Growth? Other? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards #sblchat
    • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
      A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    Yes! And teachers need to come together and agree on what evidence proves proficiency with that skill. #sblchat
    In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
    A4 Accuracy improves with quality ass't, eliminate behaviours from grades, no group scores, levels not %, no averaging & no 0’s. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4 By removing practices like averaging or other ways of "calculating" grades. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4 Todd Rose's "The End of Average" has ended convo about averaging. Use his research to stop averaging grades in your school. #sblchat
  • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4: Create essential outcomes, focus teaching on the learning, communicate the what, how & why with students. Assess the learning. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    It's nice to find someone who thinks alike. That's why I love #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    Exactly! good questions arise now that #sblchat is back!
    In reply to @JanetChowMSc, @j_ozbolt
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    A4. T's need to assess the skill and it's progress. Every student needs to feel he is learning and achieving. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:40 PM EDT
    If I get to write them, I get to answer them too! #sblchat :)
    In reply to @DaveWheeler11
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    A4: Assessments need to reflect the learning expected and be aligned correctly with the standards. #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    how do you not give an average when the whole system is meant to average (& the average is meaningless) #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
    Welcome back to #sblchat my friend!
    In reply to @NKleinmeyer
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    A4 Begin with the End in Mind. Chart the end goal and work backwards. Provide Ss feedback. Make the goals and pathways visible 4 Ss #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    We are adding an Academic Success standard to our SBG report cards that include standards for items like behavior/attendance. #sblchat
    • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards #sblchat
      • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
        A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    Mode is still a computation. I would suggest using a if --> then #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    I disagree - as long as the teacher controls the program and the program doesn’t’t control the teacher computer programs save time. #sblchat
    In reply to @GradeSmarter
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    If I run a 4:00 minute mile today - should I average all of my mile times over the past year? #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
  • mrswahle Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    So true! If my paycheck suffered from every time I made a mistake and LEARNED from it... well you do the math! #sblchat #edchat #room407
    • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      A4: Remember that assignments are practice. Ss need time to make and learn from mistakes which should never be included in a grade #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
    We've always had them at my school but just now starting to use them right #sblchat
    • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:42 PM EDT
      We are adding an Academic Success standard to our SBG report cards that include standards for items like behavior/attendance. #sblchat
      • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
        If you wanna grade behavior create standards and rubrics to do that. Don't include it in content standards #sblchat
        • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:38 PM EDT
          A4. Teachers have to be clear on the skill they are assessing. No interpretation, no student behavior included. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike? #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:43 PM EDT
    #sblchat if you only run a 4 min mile once and 5's all the other times....
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 Make sure the feedback is actionable and provides direction for Ss in their learning. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 - Grades can take on greater meaning when our Learners are prompted to REFLECT on the Learning and communicate with Teachers. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5 Grade less, be clear about what proficiency levels look like, maintain a growth mindset - grades are at that moment in time. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5:First & foremost, learning should come first.The grades will follow. If Ss want to earn the grade first, you are doing it wrong. #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    #sblchat 💛these conversations w/my teams. Learning that happens 4 the Ts is tremendous.What? Learning from r instruction is not just for Ss?
    • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:39 PM EDT
      Yes! And teachers need to come together and agree on what evidence proves proficiency with that skill. #sblchat
      In reply to @DrMarianaAdame
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    I have 11 per term. Any 1's is an F, any 2's is a C and then combo of 3's and 4s are A or B. Its a little more detailed than that:) #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5: Make grading only reflective of most recent evidence judged against the course standards. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A4 Clear outcomes Standards / examplars Ongoing self/peer feedback Timely T feedback Good Qs Practice & Reflection time #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    We need to give meaningful assignments first. #sblchat
  • ehaan308 Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    So important & something with which many Ts struggle. Colleges don't do a good job of teaching Ts to create valid assessments. #sblchat
    • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:41 PM EDT
      A4: Assessments need to reflect the learning expected and be aligned correctly with the standards. #sblchat
  • MianiD Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5: Grading should be one component of the relationship building & growth process of the Ss. Ts need to be mindful of the big pic. #sblchat
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:44 PM EDT
    A5: Make sure performance criteria - & process - is transparent so that grading isn't guesswork for students; clear process for Ts #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 - Grades take on much greater meaning when regular FEEDBACK has been shared and responded to. Feedback improves Learning. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Struggling w standards based grading for Ss with IEPs? Differentiated Assessment & Grading Model: https://t.co/mzV05Fee8f #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 By helping everyone understand the culture of mastery before charging forward changing a report card. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 The relationships between Ss and Ts is the foundation for making it meaningful. #sblchat
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A5 Empower learners to be co-designers in the process and then celebrate the learning successes together. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Have quality benchmarks - Ts determine if they have been met - Ss and Ts meet to decide grade based on the benchmarks met #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    I want to know it wasn’t a fluke. Can you do it again next time you run a mile? One piece of evidence isn’t enough; more recent! #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    A6: Provide time and resources for Ts to transition to SBG & just as much time and resources to Ss and Ps to understand it's value. #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    Yup! #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
    No need to grade every step if feedback is given along the way so the grade at the end will be valid #sblchat
    • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
      A5 - Grades take on much greater meaning when regular FEEDBACK has been shared and responded to. Feedback improves Learning. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    RT Q5 How do we make grading meaningful for teachers and students alike? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 - Grades take on greater meaning after daily COLLABORATION! #NoSurprises #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5. Grades are meaningful if we use them as a guide to team up with our students to reach the goal: learning. #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 become useful when T's use assesments to drive instruction and feedback allows S's to continue to practice to improve to goal #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    Depends....if the fastest was at the right event....becomes a record...if not... a stat..... #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17, @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
  • _Ashley_Torres Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5: Ss need to be included in the grading process. Can't be something only Ts control is w/o Ss input &a understanding gd process #sblchat
  • luifeluife Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5. Providing feedback and always monitoring progress and instruction. S's need to feel they are part of big changes! #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    If most recent was a 4:00 mile - then I am a 4 min miler!!! #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • KatieBudrow Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
    A5 I don't put anything in gradebook until the S says it can go in (& we are proud). It's based on evidence & aligned to standards. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5 Main way we make grades meaningful is by grading on standards not assessment methods & having grades for standards not subjects. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A5: Moving grading towards a conversation between teachers and students as an ongoing learning process increases the value. #sblchat
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    A4 Clear targets, feedback and maybe grades shouldn't be written in stone...they should reflect learning from mistakes. #sblchat #edtech562
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
    Personal Best...? #sblchat
    • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:46 PM EDT
      Depends....if the fastest was at the right event....becomes a record...if not... a stat..... #sblchat
      In reply to @shirky17, @MikeSzczepanik, @kenoc7, @garnet_hillman
  • GradeSmarter Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Q5: Clearly communicate Standards,co-construct what success looks like, show a direct connection to questions on assessments #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5 focus on quality over quantity! #sblchat
  • shirky17 Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    #sblchat A5 self assessment and probably peer assessment should be part of a "grade"
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    As a track coach - this is where the analogy breaks down ... No such thing as fluke good races, BUT I see your point #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    Yes! I always explain to my learners that I want to see consistency. I want predictability that they will get it next time I ask #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:45 PM EDT
      I want to know it wasn’t a fluke. Can you do it again next time you run a mile? One piece of evidence isn’t enough; more recent! #sblchat
      In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • thierck Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5 By making it meaningful for students and teachers! It's all about evidence gathering to plan next steps. #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    This is so good!!! #sblchat
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:48 PM EDT
    A5: When Ss ask why I wait so long to report a grade, I reply, "We're too busy learning. We'll deal with it when we have to." #sblchat
  • Hamm_Ed Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5 perhaps we can increase feedback frequency and "grades" from more than a single source. Sorry I'm late. Yellow from #MTY Mexico #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    #sjhcats are you listening? #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
      A5 Main way we make grades meaningful is by grading on standards not assessment methods & having grades for standards not subjects. #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Hmm is a reference to attendance about the student or the family? But if standard means changes can be made to support behaviours...#sblchat
    In reply to @ehaan308
  • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
    Do you use a preponderance of evidence then? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo
  • Hamm_Ed Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    Sounds like #design for Edu to me. Good point. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5 What happens with classroom assessments is more important than the report card. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    A5 By always connecting meaningful feedback any time there is a score. A score is nothing without it. #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    YES! #sblchat
    • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
      A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
    That works too! (Especially if no one else saw it!) #sblchat
    In reply to @RoweRikW
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Yes, but that is your level only when you do it at least once and preferably two more times. #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    And chances to improve the assigned grade even after a report is made? #sblchat
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    And we deal with it once students have had the opportunity to develop mastery, not before. #sblchat
    In reply to @aollenburg
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Completely agree! Was one of the hurdles I had when I first started SBL! #sblchat
    • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:49 PM EDT
      A5: Giving up the control & power over the grades as a teacher allows students to have more ownership. The grade is theirs not ours #sblchat
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    A5 Students should feel a part of the process, the "grade book" shouldn't be a secret they learn when report cards come out. #sblchat
    • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:47 PM EDT
      A4 Clear targets, feedback and maybe grades shouldn't be written in stone...they should reflect learning from mistakes. #sblchat #edtech562
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    I respectfully disagree :) #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • MarkClementsEdu Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    When I've empowered Ss to grade themselves, they're often harder on themselves than I am. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:51 PM EDT
    Report cards are meaningless without the Ss understanding of how it was created and what it really means #sblchat
    • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:50 PM EDT
      A5 What happens with classroom assessments is more important than the report card. #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Q6 How can grading and assessment practices build student confidence? #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    Yes, I suppose. I look for clear evidence and consider consistency and predictability. #sblchat
    In reply to @DRich0696
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:52 PM EDT
    I ran a 2 minute 8 sec 800m ONCE (many years ago!) - didn’t mean that was my level. #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • j_ozbolt Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6 By constantly showing Ss learning is a journey and growth is the goal not just a number or a letter. #sblchat
  • kirk_humphreys Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6: By building a classroom environment and grading around a growth mindset, Ss will grow and begin to learn from their mistakes. #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6 - To #MakeItStick, we use every other day Formative Assessments (FAs) as Proficiency or Exit Tickets to retain more Learning! #sblchat
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    A6 When students know that their learning is never done and proficiency can always be improved, the expectation is success. #sblchat
  • AgEd4ME Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    #teachag - if you havent yet, worth your time to visit #sblchat on grading. Could change you forever. @NAAE
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    If Ss know how grades are created they have total control over their grade #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    They can improve whenever they want - until the school year ends. #sblchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @j_ozbolt
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:53 PM EDT
    If - then (- else) is also a computation....in programming (Visual Basic a million years ago!) #sblchat #mathiseverywhere
    In reply to @MeganCMoMo, @j_ozbolt
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    RT Q6 How can grading and assessment practices build student confidence? #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6 - We choose to NOT grade our Formative Assessments (FAs) until our Learning reaches minimal Proficiency. Then we grade. #sblchat
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: Making sure Ss understand the power in the word, "YET". #sblchat
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Why not? If you ran a 2:08 ... then you ran a 2:08. On that day that was your level. Assuming fairly run #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    A6: Ensure there is always a pathway to proficiency through growth, revision, & continued emphasis on 'what is' vs 'what was' #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    For sure! And I teach logic statements in my geometry classes! Ha! #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:54 PM EDT
    Did a lot of synthesizing around "design thinking" last year! #sblchat
    In reply to @Hamm_Ed
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 - Today was our 4th day of classes. Our Learners are deepening their Confidence based on our Collaborative Learning. #sblchat #1st5Days
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 Ss' beliefs in their own learning predict their outcomes. Any grading practices that harms this must be abandoned. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 Ss who struggle with a skill are most vulnerable. We must purposefully build confidence in these Ss. #sblchat
  • leeannjung Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 It only can if it is paired with confidence-instilling feedback! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 By helping students to have a clear sense of Where am I going? Where am I now? and What do I do to close the gap? #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    #sblchat a6 when Ss have choice in showing what they know(assessment) & grade changes continually to show their continued learning #sjhcats
  • JohnSchlender Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
    A6 Emphasize the process of learning during the goal setting process with the grade as the outcome of commitment to the goal #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    A6: The assessment + feedback = growth chain builds confidence. #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    Well I ran it, ...but tweaked my ankle. So I had to retire and can't run again.....wish it were different 😜 #sblchat
    In reply to @kenoc7, @MikeSzczepanik, @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:56 PM EDT
    By using logic rules. #sblchat
    In reply to @shirky17, @garnet_hillman
  • MikeSzczepanik Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6 - Confidence is seeing that effort based on good feedback produced improved results ... having control of one's destiny #sblchat
  • BradLatzke Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    #sblchat is rolling again. Thx @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW!
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Thanks to everyone who joined #sblchat tonight! It is wonderful to be back with this community of learners. See you all next week!
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6 confidence comes from feedback from T and also from knowing that there are more opportunities to show proficiency. Keep trying #sblchat
  • aollenburg Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Which makes conversations and relationships with Ss so important! #sblchat
    • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:55 PM EDT
      A6 By helping students to have a clear sense of Where am I going? Where am I now? and What do I do to close the gap? #sblchat
      In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Thank you to my co-moderator @garnet_hillman for our thought-provoking questions tonight on Grading! #sblchat
  • technolandy Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6 regular descriptive feedback can tell them what they are doing well at, and "an" area to focus on (2 stars & a wish as a start) #sblchat
  • NKleinmeyer Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6: Grading & Assessments are part of the learning process. Let them know we care and they will trust us with their learning. #sblchat
  • datiepriest Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6 Strategic support coupled with short-term wins helps Ss who need more differentiated learning experiences #sblchat
  • DrMarianaAdame Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6. Changing the perception of grades. Let's focus on the progress, learn to see what there is, what we have. #sblchat
  • MarkClementsEdu Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A6: I think student confidence escalates when they realize Ts are allies in the learning process, not judges or rule enforcers. #sblchat
  • Ms_Heilsberg Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Yet is the most powerful word for a student can understand #sblchat
  • Hamm_Ed Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    When they are directly connected to the actual quality of the product which has a real impact on an authentic user group. #pbl #Sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • garnet_hillman - Moderator Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    Huge kudos to my partner in #sblchat @RoweRikW! Please give him a big thank you. #sblchat
  • SuptTallman Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
    A5: Provide time and resources for Ts to transition to SBG & just as much time and resources to Ss and Ps to understand it's value. #sblchat
  • MeganCMoMo Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Thank you @RoweRikW and @garnet_hillman for a great first chat of the year! #sblchat
  • BarbMiller12 Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    #sblchat So glad this chat is back. @RoweRikW @garnet_hillman and all my other sbl colleagues great learning tonight.
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    A6: Also, make the learning progression/scaffolding transparent so that Ss can see how skills in minutiae fits with bigger picture #sblchat
  • LucyMelchert Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Yes! #sblchat
  • kenoc7 Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    Is it over already. I’ve been 4 minutes behind all night. Thanks Garnet and Rik and all participants for great discussion. #sblchat
    In reply to @garnet_hillman
  • WillCounty92 Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    That is a lesson from coaching which would benefit all teachers #sblchat
    In reply to @MikeSzczepanik
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:58 PM EDT
    We owe our very best to our Learners...every day! #sblchat
  • DaveWheeler11 Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Love that!!! Workimg together to help students learn, allies!!! #sblchat #TES
    • MarkClementsEdu Sep 6 @ 9:57 PM EDT
      A6: I think student confidence escalates when they realize Ts are allies in the learning process, not judges or rule enforcers. #sblchat
  • DRich0696 Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thanks @garnet_hillman and @RoweRikW for leading tonight - great to be back in the learning loop with #sblchat
  • Katiemissu Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Agreed! #sblchat #edtech562
  • TomSchimmer Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Big props to @garnet_hillman & @RoweRikW for keeping the #sblchat rolling along for another year! Have a great rest of the week everyone!
  • ElviraCaso Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Separate is not equal.Asses the whole child in knowledge,content and developmental progress.Align assigments for all standards #sblchat
  • RoweRikW Sep 6 @ 9:59 PM EDT
    Thank you Megan for all you do for our learning and the learning of your Students! #sblchat