#bcedchat Archive

This is an edchat for educators, primarily in British Columbia, Canada.

Sunday April 15, 2018
10:00 PM EDT

  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    @ChristineYH and @Teachinginthe21 will be our co-moderators for tonight. #bcedchat
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Welcome to #bcedchat. The topic today is Formative Assessment in Mathematics.
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Please introduce yourself and include your subject, grade level and area of interest. #bcedchat.
  • CraigMah - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Craig, elem admin from Coquitlam, joining tonight's #bcedchat
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Hi April from sunshine coast. Happy to see the topic tonight #bcedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Nathan and whatever grade @brynmw wants to assign me #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:00 PM EDT
    Great to see you at #bcedchat Craig. Should be an awesome chat.
    In reply to @CraigMah
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    #BCEdChat Great to be in on this topic, tonight. This is where my educational heart lies: assessment in Mathematics. Bryn, Elementary Principal (and former Math teacher)
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Hi April. Good to see you at #bcedchat. HOT TOPIC. #math #assessment #formative
    In reply to @rilmcknight
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Stella Fleming, Grade 1/2 teacher in Victoria #bcedchat
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Francois from Qualicum, French Immersion #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Welcome April! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @rilmcknight
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Erica. Secondary Math and CS tchr in Burnaby. Excited abt the topic tonight! #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Great to see you Craig! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @CraigMah
  • CraigMah - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    Glad to be here! My tweetdeck is still recovering from last week's #bcedchat with @perfinker!
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @perfinker
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:01 PM EDT
    I think the K's would do well with your, um, humour? Is that right? Did I pronounce that correctly? #bcedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Thanks Good to be here for a great topic #bcedchat
    In reply to @Teachinginthe21
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome back buddy! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome Stella! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @stellafleming23
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Hi Nathan. Good to see you at #bcedchat . We're talking math!!!
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @brynmw
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Welcome! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    Work for me. I can roll from K to grad school students #BCEdChat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:02 PM EDT
    HI Erica. Welcome to #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hi Francois. Good to see you at #bcedchat again.
    In reply to @jfprovencher27
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hi Stella... this is your topic... MATH... Welcome to #bcedchat
    In reply to @stellafleming23
  • allison_burt Apr 15 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Hi #bcedchat! From Powell River...looking forward to tonight’s conversation.
    In reply to @bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:03 PM EDT
    Yo Bryn. Good to see you at #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Welcome, Allison! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @allison_burt, @bcedchat
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Kristi; Tech Integration Specialist; former MS math teacher #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Hi Allison... Woohoo... From Powell River!!! Welcome to #bcedchat
    In reply to @allison_burt, @bcedchat
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Thanks! Get ready for some radical opinions! #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:04 PM EDT
    Nice to see you here, tonight, Kristi! #bcedchat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    We will be using the Q1, A1 format. Please label your responses and use the hashtag #bcedchat
  • Kareemfarah23 Apr 15 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Kareem from DC, high school math teacher #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:05 PM EDT
    Welcome! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Q1: What is formative assessment? Compare this to summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Okay, I love your gifs......And now I must follow you! #bcedchat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Ian - educating in BCs springish shuswap - been loving putting pbl in place of mad minutes in my math and pushing for understanding over memorizing algorithms! #BCEdChat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    WELCOME Kareem. You've just made #bcedchat INTERNATIONAL tonight. Woohoo!!!
    In reply to @Kareemfarah23
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Q1 is out... #bcedchat
    • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      Q1: What is formative assessment? Compare this to summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    Great to see you, Francois. I may connect sometime around EFI as my school moves that way. #bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @kristi_daws
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
    #bcedchat Fred from Richmond, math mentor teacher & life-long learner ready to be assessed.
  • Dale_Chu Apr 15 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    HAPPENING NOW: @ChristineYH and @Teachinginthe21 moderating a talk on formative assessment in math. Follow along at #BCEdChat! @bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Hi Ian. Welcome back to #bcedchat. Great to see you!!!
    In reply to @technolandy
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Love how formative assessment helps both myself, my student and our parent know what’s been done and what next steps are (works great with efolios too!) #BCEdChat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:07 PM EDT
    Hi Fred... of course we would see you tonight on #bcedchat. We're talking MATH. Welcome!!!
    In reply to @HarMath
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A1: Summative: "of" learning = a snapshot at one point in time Formative: "for" learning = a diagnostic tool to further learning
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Formative assessment is the assessment that takes place by the teacher during learning. It can take many forms and lets the teacher know how to proceed to meet the Ss learning needs. #bcedchat
  • Kareemfarah23 Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Formative assessments are tools to gather critical data on student progress. They are designed to identify opportunities for intervention and guide instructional shifts #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    Q1: What is formative assessment? Compare this to summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1 Formative is assessment for learning purposes and leads to more learning. Summative is that final product. #bcedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1 it is about process. Learning the steps that you go through to learn something #bcedchat
    In reply to @bcedchat
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Typically formative should be done throughout the learning/growth process (either formal or informal). Summative should confirm the growth throughout the grading period, semester, and/or year. #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    I’d love to hear more of how you use these assessments with parents! #majorkey #BCEdChat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:08 PM EDT
    A1: Formative assessment is a way to find out what is happening in the learning (to help inFORM the direction of the learning). Nothing about reporting out. Summative is a final exam or test of learning with no way to change plans. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Yes. Formative. Always looking forward. #bcedchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    #BCEdChat @bcedchat Karen Vancouver teaching gr 6/7 sorry just got in from my walk
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    LOVE this! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @rilmcknight
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    #BCEdChat A1: Formative is specific descriptive feedback. It is the way we assess practice without fear of failure or fear of a "mark"
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Awesome to see you here, tonight, Karen. Looking forward to learning with you. #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99, @bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Explain further. Formative as Diagnostic Tool. Would love to hear more. #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: FA is assessment that provide feedback on where Ss are at and where they could improve on. SA gives the overall picture of Ss learning of a particular topic or course #bcedchat
  • AssignmentHelpN Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A Complete Guide on How to Write the Best Thesis Statement https://t.co/WclQX7k5an #EDthink #WATeachLead #ndlibchat #wyoedchat #bcedchat #CVESDChat #TPEPchat
  • allison_burt Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    A1: Information about where you’re at and where you need to go next. #bcedchat
    • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      Q1: What is formative assessment? Compare this to summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    #bcedchat was missed in this one
    • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
      Summative assessment is what happens at the end of the learning and enables the student to show what has been learned. Again it can take many forms.
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    Can formative assessments be done by the student? What do you think? #bcedchat
    In reply to @stellafleming23
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:10 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A1: Formative assessment involves specific descriptive feedback.
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Summative assessment is what happens at the end of the learning and enables the student to show what has been learned. Again it can take many forms. #bcedchat
  • PopeSD36 Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    A1 formative informs learning and decision making. Summative determines achievement #bcedchat
    In reply to @bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Wow. Love it Kareem. Formative is all about student progress, interventions, and instructional shifts. Nicely said. #bcedchat
    In reply to @Kareemfarah23
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    That is a yes. Have them do an exit ticket to charge their learning for the day #BCEdChat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @stellafleming23
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    is the capitalizing of FORM intended? does summative have to be an exam or test? :) #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Self evaluation is key to learning. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @stellafleming23
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    #bcedchat love @rickwormeli2 explanation of formative & summative https://t.co/7RkI2wAofG
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
    Summative is at the end. That determines the "grade". Everything else before is formative . It inFORMs our action forward #bcedchat
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    #bcedchat "School should not be when young people come to watch old people and then get graded a week later on how well they watched." Unfortunately, most assessment is treated as an autopsy instead of a checkup. Formative assessment furthers learning.
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
      Explain further. Formative as Diagnostic Tool. Would love to hear more. #bcedchat
      In reply to @HarMath
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Formative is about learning process. #bcedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @bcedchat
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Both formative and summative assessments can be led by the student. New BC curriculum leans itself to this. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    It is feedback that guides the practice of a teacher and or student #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Hi Kristi... yes... summative confirms growth and formative supports growth. Love that. #bcedchat
    In reply to @kristi_daws
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @dylanwiliam explanation of Formative Assessment https://t.co/qXq4DefQXD
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
    Nice! Welcome, Rose! Always wonderful to see you and hear you here! #bcedchat
    In reply to @RosePillay1, @rickwormeli2
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    While we are often “saved by the bell” - their ticket outside is showing me what they’ve learned - it’s a good strategy! #bcedchat and leads to good conversations
    • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:11 PM EDT
      That is a yes. Have them do an exit ticket to charge their learning for the day #BCEdChat
      In reply to @ChristineYH, @stellafleming23
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Hi Fred!!! Yes I'd agree that FA is a diagnostic tool too. Informs where Ss are at and where they are going. Also informs Tchrs if adjustments need to be made in our teaching #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @HarMath
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    #BCEdChat A1 formative is my walk around the room as I check in with groups while working on problems, asking about the steps they’re taking. Summative is the whole, what they share out at the end of class.
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Love that. Inform the direction of learning. Very inclusive. #formative #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • CraigMah - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    A1 Formative is provided along the way and is a useful tool for the learner. Summative gives the final assessment. I've heard it called the "autopsy". #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Q2 is coming... #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Intentional, yes. But summative is about looking back at what is learnt. Doesn't have to be exam/test, but something that shows what has been learnt. Formative is about finding out gaps to help move the learning forward. #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Jimi Hendrix is all about the feedback of formative assessment #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:13 PM EDT
    Most of time time I'd just like to be in endless formative loops moving forward into the oblivion of endless learning. #bcedchat
  • allison_burt Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Or direct your teaching for the next day. #bcedchat
    In reply to @nathan_stevens, @ChristineYH, @stellafleming23
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    I have hear that too #BCEdChat
    In reply to @CraigMah
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    Wow. That's a good one. Formative is feedback on how to improve and summative is the overall picture. #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
    YESSSS!!!! #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Q2: What is the purpose of formative assessment? Why is it important to separate it from summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Hi #bcedchat Sorry I am jumping in late.
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Man I'm tired after the three days of the Zoomer Show. I meant to say "watch old people WORK" I'm sorry, adrenaline needs to kick in like it always does during a #bcedchat
    • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:12 PM EDT
      #bcedchat "School should not be when young people come to watch old people and then get graded a week later on how well they watched." Unfortunately, most assessment is treated as an autopsy instead of a checkup. Formative assessment furthers learning.
      • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:09 PM EDT
        Explain further. Formative as Diagnostic Tool. Would love to hear more. #bcedchat
        In reply to @HarMath
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    No he is running a Jamba Juice is so cal #BCEdChat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Oh my goodness. This is a great analogy. Thank you for sharing. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Hi Katie. Welcome to #bcedchat Better late than never. Great to have you.
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Hi Katie! #BCEdChat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Definitely to provide a direction. Exit slips are the window into the student brain answering my question: did they understand what I think they did? #bcedchat
    In reply to @allison_burt, @nathan_stevens, @ChristineYH, @stellafleming23
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:16 PM EDT
    Is So Cal a low calorie choice of vegetable? You know his grandma's house was in Vancouver, right? #bcedchat (That means we think he is canadian...)
    In reply to @nathan_stevens
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Hi all! I was distracted by an episode of “This is Us.” Here with @bcecta for the Sunday eve chat! #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    Do you like exit slips as a form of formative assessment? You are foreshadowing future #bcedchat questions. I like it.
    In reply to @ajgadd, @allison_burt, @nathan_stevens, @stellafleming23
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    A2: Formative Assessment is future-focused, while Summative captures and reports present state (which soon becomes the past.) #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:17 PM EDT
    But guests can provide formative feedback too :) #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Hi Nicole. Welcome back to #bcedchat. Good to see you again. Come on... Wouldn't you rather talk about math and formative assessment? YES YOU DO.
    In reply to @nico1e, @BCECTA
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2: Formative guides the learning process. It should dictate the what and how. #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    A2: Formative is really a 'test' of the lesson plan and the learning. It is not for the gradebook, it is for the teacher and students. Summative is the test of the students' learning to report out where they are. #bcedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    I use a 3 question model. 1. What did you do? 2. What did you learn? 3. What questions do you have? #BCEdChat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @ajgadd, @allison_burt, @stellafleming23
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    Amazing. Formative dictates the what and the how. #bcedchat
    • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
      A2: Formative guides the learning process. It should dictate the what and how. #bcedchat
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
    I know tonight's #bcedchat is on formative but too often summative is not thought of a 'cross-section' of learning at one point. It seldom gives us the 'whole picture' due to the bias of the tests, the taker's physical, mental and emotional health etc. Also why FA is so big!
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
      Wow. That's a good one. Formative is feedback on how to improve and summative is the overall picture. #bcedchat
      In reply to @msyehuang
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    I like this way of looking at FA and SA! We often think of FA and SA in the forms of quizzes, exit slips, tests, projects, portfolios, etc, but really we are doing FA & SA everyday! :) #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99
  • CraigMah - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    ...and it's valuable info for the teacher whether lessons, strategies, activities have helped students. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Although, I would prefer the standards based learning/grading where it isn't about age levels, but the continuum of learning. Formative would let us know how we are doing and summative would tell us what we've learnt. #bcedchat
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    After #bcedchat make sure to explore @hhschiaravalli blog https://t.co/5CJsfNVl7F and his reflections on assessment
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    A2 formative assessment helps tell you where you need to go #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:19 PM EDT
    Yep. Thanks Fred. #bcedchat
    • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
      I know tonight's #bcedchat is on formative but too often summative is not thought of a 'cross-section' of learning at one point. It seldom gives us the 'whole picture' due to the bias of the tests, the taker's physical, mental and emotional health etc. Also why FA is so big!
      • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:14 PM EDT
        Wow. That's a good one. Formative is feedback on how to improve and summative is the overall picture. #bcedchat
        In reply to @msyehuang
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Yes. But I would still say that formative cannot be in the gradebook. It's like using the practices to decide the final outcome of a game. #bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @msyehuang
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    It is pretty powerful. I am trying to provide opportunities, especially in math, for students to show their growth past the "unit". So often the unit ends and they think the skill is done... Trying to keep them developing throughout the term/year. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    Popping in late, in Banff right now and messed up on time thought I missed it!😃 #bcedchat
  • Kareemfarah23 Apr 15 @ 10:20 PM EDT
    A2: Students need to have the opportunity to showcase their learning without feeling the high stakes pressure of a summative assessment. Formative assessments are a perfect opportunity to gather data without adding stress #bcedchat
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    A2: #bcedchat Students need to be able to try & stumble without worrying that there will be a mark. Formative allows Ss to better comprehend & digest what they've done right, wrong. Putting a mark literally dismisses all the formative feedback that truly mattered
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Great to see you here. Wish I was part of your Banff thing. Sounded awesome! #bcedchat
    In reply to @teachermrskhan
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Well... This tweet was in response to @msyehuang who said it much better. Sadly, we mistake summative assessment as formative. Getting a 6/10 tells me nothing as a learner except I got a 6. Yet, the hidden message is IMPROVE. What are your thoughts on this Fred. #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath, @msyehuang
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    Formative & Summative should be S focused -nothing about them with out them -formative should give a snapshot of knowledge & skills / understanding & provide direction 4 next steps -Summative gives a level of understanding demonstrated at the predetermined end of a unit #bcedchat
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    #bcedchat And what did I as teacher learn about this student, where they are at, how they are learning, what should we be doing next and why, what might I do next time to improve their learning and many more questions that emerge.
    • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:18 PM EDT
      I use a 3 question model. 1. What did you do? 2. What did you learn? 3. What questions do you have? #BCEdChat
      In reply to @ChristineYH, @ajgadd, @allison_burt, @stellafleming23
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
    I agree! Except that quizzes still go into my gradebooks but will be updated if Ss improve on the particular learning outcomes later. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @jfprovencher27
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Formative assessment tells where are kid are at and where we need to help them next for them to meet the learning goals. Backward design check ins so to speak. It allows for adjustments to teaching. #bcedchat
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    #BCEdChat A2 formative guides, summative tells. We need to know where we are going and how to get there before we get there.
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Hi Iram... Good to see you at #bcedchat. Agreed. Love that. Formative assessments help tell you where you need to go. That goes for students and teachers. #bcedchat
    In reply to @teachermrskhan
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    Q3 is coming... #bcedchat
  • nathan_stevens Apr 15 @ 10:22 PM EDT
    I have a couple schools that added another question or two. 3 is good for me #BCEdChat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    A2: I like to think that even summative can become formative b/c learning always continues. Whenever Ts or Ss take results & analyze them for growth, a summative can become formative. Also, formative can help me make a strong summative professional judgement. Connected #bcedchat
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    continual learning, finding and making visible connections, should transferable use of skills helps students to make meaning in a wider sense - not just to 'finish the unit' and move on #bcedchat
    In reply to @lyndasuelew, @ajgadd
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    So, that makes me wonder what is a quiz? is it about seeing if students understand the concepts? Is it to prepare (ie, teach to) the test? Just wondering....#bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @jfprovencher27
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Q3: How do you use formative assessment with your math students? #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Yes! Do you find some subject areas more challenging to see that happen? #bcedchat
    In reply to @notjustup2u, @lyndasuelew
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:23 PM EDT
    Done! Tie that with a bow! #bcedchat
    In reply to @notjustup2u
  • KennethHeadley - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Hey #bcedchat- just popping in late! New role is a bit overwhelming but I am coping!
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    A3 do you get the concepts, show me in either writing, voice or a demo... Do you want to teach the class or a small group tomorrow #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Great point! I know I have used summative results to plan forward into the next year, or to help with big data when looking at cohorts of students. #BCEdChat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    #bcedchat I believe there is some research showing the most powerful indicator of success in university is the principal's recommendation based on the informed contributions of the student's teachers, not on a summative exam like a provincial.
    • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:20 PM EDT
      do you need a test to do a summative assessemnt ?
      In reply to @HarMath
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @ELmagazine issue on Feedback for Learning: https://t.co/Lqy1ZtsYHe
  • CraigMah - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:24 PM EDT
    Nice to see you Kenneth! #bcedchat
    In reply to @KennethHeadley
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    We hope you’re enjoying the chat tonight! Remember, we chat every Sunday at 7 pm PST! #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Agreed. the summative can become formative if it is used as an opportunity to learn and it provides information for the student and teacher on where to improve. Furthermore, that summative can NO LONGER COUNT as part of the final grade because it became formative. #bcedchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    We have a lot of chat time too - group and solo reflection and shared as well - not everything is based strictly on the rubrics! Not everything is efolio-worthy either😜 #bcedchat
    In reply to @stellafleming23
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Thinking, now, about standards based grading. Does it mean that we assess with homework, quiz, test on same outcome? test on chapter, unit, midterm, final? How many times should we test a standard? #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @jfprovencher27, @msyehuang
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    A3: these Qs are coming fast and furious. My wonder to this so what to do when formatively you feel trapped in this "I don't think the kids get it" loop. #bcedchat
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    That's a good point. Thanks, Fred! IMO, really unit tests should be considered formative too, if we allow re-tests for Ss to demonstrate that they improved their learning of a particular PLO. #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    Woohooo... Great to see you Kenneth. I'm so glad you can join us tonight. HOT TOPIC. Math and formative assessment. #bcedchat
    In reply to @KennethHeadley
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @ELmagazine issue re Effective Grading Practices https://t.co/JkhRzg674x
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Or even catapult us into the next unit. What do I need to revisit? Where are our strengths. All assessment data can help us with those decisions. #bcedchat
    In reply to @Teachinginthe21
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A3: As a way of encouraging students and complimenting them on the journey. Of making teaching personal to them so that differentiated learning can take place. Of enabling students to be their own advocate in the math learning process. #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    A3: start the class off with a Challenge Question that is really simply a review Q of last class's learning. #bcedchat
  • OlwenCowan Apr 15 @ 10:26 PM EDT
    Rollin in late to lurk. Wassup, bced peeps? #bcedchat
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @ELmagazine issue Using Assessments Thoughtfully https://t.co/RFFWAF6JM2
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Let's focus on the formative. :) #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    You bet. We ask students to give us updated information and replace old evidence with new. #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      Agreed. the summative can become formative if it is used as an opportunity to learn and it provides information for the student and teacher on where to improve. Furthermore, that summative can NO LONGER COUNT as part of the final grade because it became formative. #bcedchat
      In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    I have thrown away the quiz and test concept in my classes. We do checkins and see where we are at with the topics. They can correct them and they highlight in yellow what they want to spend more time on #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    Depending on viewpoint, T and S, it could be anywhere. I do think math lends itself more to this, simply because of the seeming finality of a unit. It is SO amazing when Ss see their development a month or two later. LOVE it. Addictive for all of us. :) #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd, @notjustup2u
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
    I would stop and find out - use different engagements to find out what they know and where the gaps are - no point going on if you don't know the baseline #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Well #bcedchat if I had 8 different assessments out of 10, I could lay them all out & do a forensic analysis of what's the same & what is different to determine why marks were taken off, . . . or I could tell students what they did well & what they could do to improve each time
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:21 PM EDT
      Well... This tweet was in response to @msyehuang who said it much better. Sadly, we mistake summative assessment as formative. Getting a 6/10 tells me nothing as a learner except I got a 6. Yet, the hidden message is IMPROVE. What are your thoughts on this Fred. #bcedchat
      In reply to @HarMath, @msyehuang
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A3: I can’t speak to math, but my S do checklists: “not yet, yes with help, yes on my own” next to concrete competency descriptions, & give examples. It helps me gauge where they’re at, individually & as a class. My peer support consultant helped me create them. #bcedchat
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @ELmagazine issue re Measuring What Matters https://t.co/j44quvkcdc
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    I think that the students don't see formative assessment. It's not as visible as summative even though one feeds into the other. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Exactly - not just to finish the unit and move on!!! #bcedchat
    In reply to @notjustup2u, @ajgadd
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Totally, which is why I appreciate summative check ins combined with formative assessment. If there’s trends it most certainly allows me to retrace steps and research in a timely manner. I’ve been really enjoying “high yield Math routines” this year. #BCEdChat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    That's an interesting Q, Bryn. I am doing SBG too. Ideally Ss should have multiple opportunities to demonstrate a learning outcome. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @dramaqueen4, @jfprovencher27
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    Hey hey Olwen!! #bcedchat
    In reply to @OlwenCowan
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
    A2 Formative assessment is like the design process, we see where we are at and rework the areas we need to so that we can continue the learning or change how we are doing the work. #bcedchat
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    A3 #bcedchat Well, not a Math teacher but since we are all accountable for numeracy & literacy....I teach scale (mapping) & charts/graphs in both non-fiction & Socials so I avoid ✅ & incorrect. I ask questions, steer them on correct path, note what did well. No "atta boy/girl"
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    Since we’re talking assessment tonight... you might like to give this one a read :) https://t.co/bU3FtbhstX #bcedchat
    • Arbay38 Apr 15 @ 8:30 PM EDT
      The portfolio conferences changed the underlying message students were getting in my classroom, from “guess what the teacher is thinking” to “let’s work through this together.” - Love this brave post, almost a cautionary tale about the complexity of gradeless teaching. #tg2chat
  • KennethHeadley - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    Q3- I am not a math teacher- but I podded with an amazing teacher who would pose an open ended quick question and ask students to use prior knowledge and to provide a reason as to why they got that answer! #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:29 PM EDT
    I may disagree in this one. I think it is important for students to understanding their assessment. It's, as you say, part of that feedback loop. They need to learn how to 'formatively assess' themselves as part of the learner process. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @ajgadd
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A3 I use mini white boards, group discussions that I check in on, ask what/why you have that thought about...
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    But you don't need to put a mark down to tell students what they need to do to get better. The student should be able to do the "forensic science" as well. Most can't from 6/10 or an X. #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • Kareemfarah23 Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A3: I build instructional videos to replace my lectures. Using #edtech to embedd questions in my videos is a powerful way to implement formative assessments #bcedchat
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    This yr I am trying the cumulative assessment approach so that I'm assessing Ss on PLOs they've learned so far and break boundaries of units on summative assessments (tests and projects). #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @dramaqueen4, @jfprovencher27
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Q4 is coming... #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Yes. but if they demonstrate that understanding, how many times should we assess? And, in many cases, we need to assess multiple times to make sure that there is deeper understanding. #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @dramaqueen4, @jfprovencher27
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Yesss I love using traffic light highlighter strategies! Helps them focus on their self-identified goals. Builds ownership of learning, awareness of ‘place’ and of journey in growth. They feel so proud of themselves when they can recognize their own growth! #bcedchat
    In reply to @rilmcknight, @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    Making concepts & skills visible and creating a web of connections makes it more naturally embedded in what is happening in lessons - over time Ss will make the connections & question links #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd, @lyndasuelew
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
    A3: Exit tickets, oral explanations, practice questions, spiraling reviews, leveled problems (adjusting DOK to see where they really are) #bcedchat
  • KennethHeadley - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    She would then provide them feedback and ask questions as to how they formulated that answer and if their learning process could work for another question #bcedchat (which was conceptional) to what they were doing.
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    I like some way to communicate, to the teacher, the "not yet" "yes with help" "yes on my own" thing. Embeds self evaluation in every class. AND if someone is saying "yes" but it is really "no", then the teacher has more information about the student. #bcedchat
    • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
      A3: I can’t speak to math, but my S do checklists: “not yet, yes with help, yes on my own” next to concrete competency descriptions, & give examples. It helps me gauge where they’re at, individually & as a class. My peer support consultant helped me create them. #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:31 PM EDT
    Any teacher can choose what and how they assess in their classroom. There is an understanding that the teacher in the classroom has autonomy around how best to assess their students, authentically. Unless.....#bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @dramaqueen4, @msyehuang
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    I think that if students were cognitive that formative assessment were happening and actively part of the process, then maybe they can see it as it's happening. But most students still talk like this... 67%... B... pass/fail. All summative. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    #bcedchat check out @ELmagazine Questioning For Learning https://t.co/Qxu5EkORET
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    a quiz is just to check Ss understanding. i told Ss that if they don't do well on the quiz they still have an opportunity to demonstrate their learning on the test or project. The grade is updated if they can demonstrate learning. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @jfprovencher27
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
    Q4: What is the most effective formative assessment strategy do you use that you believe is most effective for students to learn math? How do you know? #bcedchat
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Every kid is on their own personalized learning journey - IEPs for everyone - formal or not! #bcedchat
    In reply to @stellafleming23
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    With curriculum driven outcomes people have to introduce multiple concepts however when we build language capacity & create visuals so Ss can connect past & new learning they can see layers #bcedchat
    In reply to @lyndasuelew, @ajgadd
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    #bcedchat I've even used final cross-grade summative tests as formative by informing students (& parents) of the student's strengths & weaknesses leading to what they could work at over summer to be better prepared for the next level.
    • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:25 PM EDT
      That's a good point. Thanks, Fred! IMO, really unit tests should be considered formative too, if we allow re-tests for Ss to demonstrate that they improved their learning of a particular PLO. #bcedchat
      In reply to @HarMath
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    Yes... is this the recent edition? Someone just brought this to my attention. Good one Rose... and nice to see you at #bcedchat
  • davemccr Apr 15 @ 10:33 PM EDT
    A1 #bcedchat Formative assessment is the ongoing process of evaluating student progress on given set of goals. It is flexible, and assesses learning over on a continuum, over a given period of time, with evolving expectations and experiences.
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    That's wonderful. Are there still summative assessments that allow Ss to demonstrate a broader range of learning outcomes? #bcedchat
    In reply to @rilmcknight, @HarMath
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    I agree, but it's about how we report out on the assessment. If we write a 67% or B or p/f, then that's what they see. But if we communicate the learning cycle (as in 'try this?' or "why did you do it this way?'. It might be better, perhaps? #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @ajgadd
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:34 PM EDT
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:34 PM EDT
    Yup. You gain insight into the student’s level of understanding *about their own understanding.* Then we’re better able to help reframe the student’s understanding & better empower them 4 growth. My favourite part is helping a struggling kid have an ‘aha’ & feel proud. #bcedchat
    • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:31 PM EDT
      I like some way to communicate, to the teacher, the "not yet" "yes with help" "yes on my own" thing. Embeds self evaluation in every class. AND if someone is saying "yes" but it is really "no", then the teacher has more information about the student. #bcedchat
      • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:28 PM EDT
        A3: I can’t speak to math, but my S do checklists: “not yet, yes with help, yes on my own” next to concrete competency descriptions, & give examples. It helps me gauge where they’re at, individually & as a class. My peer support consultant helped me create them. #bcedchat
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  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    I can’t help but wonder if we might be able to do a better job of connecting formative assessment to students’ experiences while learning. What if they came to see that FA leads to different groupings, practice, questions...FA serves a purpose beyond “results” #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    A4 actually starting with an essential question and trying to answer it (summative) the rest is investigation #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    It's always about best practice. But then, again, the best for whom? which student? (sorry, getting off topic, here....) #bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @dramaqueen4, @msyehuang
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:35 PM EDT
    I don’t know about other elementary schools, but in Surrey we are moving away from this. Movement from many teachers to not give out grades and percentages. Students at my school are really comfortable with this. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    It is about mindset If we think it will B challenging then it will be. Think about the way u use provocations & how u collect data. If we really think about what we want 2 know & how that will inform our teaching then it is not any more challenging regardless of subject #bcedchat
    In reply to @lyndasuelew, @ajgadd
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    I know I am not a math TEACHER (but I do teach & teach beside a math teacher ;) ). What I am noticing in my classes is that the students are NOT talking about grades and percentages and ARE talking more about learning. Report cards make this convo go back to grades. #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
      I think that if students were cognitive that formative assessment were happening and actively part of the process, then maybe they can see it as it's happening. But most students still talk like this... 67%... B... pass/fail. All summative. #bcedchat
      In reply to @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    #bcedchat This is such an important part of the FA process since we can involve the students in giving feedback by understanding success criteria, looking for key indicators, peer reviews, assessment talks with each other (I like teams here to improve the talk)
    • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:27 PM EDT
      I have thrown away the quiz and test concept in my classes. We do checkins and see where we are at with the topics. They can correct them and they highlight in yellow what they want to spend more time on #bcedchat
      In reply to @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Yes - 'language capacity' - is totally a component of math. Important we are working to *name, notice, nuture* with vocabulary, concepts, reasons why we do what we do. #bcedchat
    In reply to @notjustup2u, @ajgadd
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    A4: My most affective formative assessment was the use of proficiency scales. Ss start at the lowest level and advance until they are no longer successful. Both S and T know exactly where they are. No grades needed. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Yes. Being explicit with formative assessment will help students become aware that we are helping them to become better selves. It reminds me of sport, music or dance. Competency based... all feedback is formative, especially at practice. the W/L is summative. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Blank piece of paper: what do you know about ____ (write or draw) (Or conversation for those with written output issues) #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @rilmcknight, @HarMath
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    Great share for #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
    I had my intermediate teachers come to me and ask not to give out percentages/grades on report cards. They wanted more commentary on each learner. Loved it. #bcedchat
    In reply to @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH, @ajgadd
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    That is awesome. Makes me optimistic. Thanks Angela. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    We do open ended questions near the end of a group of units for a SA but as with all checkins they can correct and see what needs work before the next concept.They get to show me how their brains see the answers and how they can use what they have learnt #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    I love this so much. #bcedchat
    In reply to @lyndasuelew, @notjustup2u
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    A4: I’m still figuring this one out. I’m brand new to teaching science but my language ‘lens’ is actually making it super exciting. I think ultimately allowing students to really ‘show’ understanding & skill (according to their strengths) is key. #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:32 PM EDT
      Q4: What is the most effective formative assessment strategy do you use that you believe is most effective for students to learn math? How do you know? #bcedchat
  • davemccr Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Q2 the purpose of formative assessment is interesting as it is interpreted many different ways. I see at as benchmarking students against where they were initially, to where they are later in their learning. It shows their growth over a period of time, their learning #bcedchat
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Love it when conversations go in this direction! #bcedchat
    • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
      I had my intermediate teachers come to me and ask not to give out percentages/grades on report cards. They wanted more commentary on each learner. Loved it. #bcedchat
      In reply to @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH, @ajgadd
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    A4: hands down, using small group instruction embedded in a guided math rotations for my grade 8s this year has yielded so many rewarding moments of seeing where my students are but also where they can be challenged and supported with manipulatives and mentoring #BCEdChat
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
    Yes, I do mini one-on-one conferences, too! Very nice to get to talk to each student and get them to demonstrate their learning and reflect #bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @brynmw, @dramaqueen4
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    Putting a grade on even negates the comments that are also there as students see it as summative & stop looking to improve. No grade, just feedback is clearly shown as superior for improving learning. Research strongly supports this, #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
      But you don't need to put a mark down to tell students what they need to do to get better. The student should be able to do the "forensic science" as well. Most can't from 6/10 or an X. #bcedchat
      In reply to @HarMath
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    Q5 is coming... #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    Agreed. #bcedchat
    • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:38 PM EDT
      Putting a grade on even negates the comments that are also there as students see it as summative & stop looking to improve. No grade, just feedback is clearly shown as superior for improving learning. Research strongly supports this, #bcedchat
      • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:30 PM EDT
        But you don't need to put a mark down to tell students what they need to do to get better. The student should be able to do the "forensic science" as well. Most can't from 6/10 or an X. #bcedchat
        In reply to @HarMath
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:38 PM EDT
    @RosePillay1 you are awesome... Thanks for all those shares #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    I wonder as well. #bcedchat
    • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:35 PM EDT
      I can’t help but wonder if we might be able to do a better job of connecting formative assessment to students’ experiences while learning. What if they came to see that FA leads to different groupings, practice, questions...FA serves a purpose beyond “results” #bcedchat
      In reply to @ChristineYH, @brynmw, @ajgadd
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Love that. I bet the students feel vey supported. #bcedchat
    In reply to @msyehuang, @jfprovencher27, @dramaqueen4
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:39 PM EDT
    Yes yes yes. My question for you: what do you do when you are teaching skills and concepts that span months (and reporting periods), allowing for practice, but needing to report formally along the way? #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @ChristineYH
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Q5: What role does @joboaler ‘s Mathematical Mindsets or Carol Dweck’s Growth Mindsets play in formative assessment in mathematics? #bcedchat
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    Brilliant work on the metacognition piece! Those 'aha' moments are so fabulous. #bcedchat
    In reply to @nico1e
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
    I love using a table square where there are four questions and one S starts the question and we rotate the paper and the next fixes and continues to solve. Great math discussions come from this and I can see what each has been able to do #bcedchat
    In reply to @technolandy, @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A4 a colleague just shared the ANIE with me and I like the format. I’m looking forward to trying it out.
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    That's a good point. Formative assessment allows us to break down the learning and connect "experts" in specific learning areas to provide the best opportunities for growth in all learners. #bcedchat
    In reply to @KatieWhite426, @ChristineYH, @brynmw
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    A5: I've always believed that the concept of mathematical confidence (positive growth mindsets) have such a great influence on learning. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @joboaler
  • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    Collaborating in mathematics?! How radical! (Puns intended!) #bcedchat
    • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
      I love using a table square where there are four questions and one S starts the question and we rotate the paper and the next fixes and continues to solve. Great math discussions come from this and I can see what each has been able to do #bcedchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:41 PM EDT
    It’s exciting to witness. I was shocked how quickly students “got it” I thought they’d fight it. Same with parents. If you are transparent and invite everyone along for the journey it can happen! #bcedchat
    In reply to @Teachinginthe21
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    A3: FA can take many forms: observations, exit slips, quizzes, etc. For quizzes, I don't give grades, but where they are at instead: Novice, Intermediate or Expert. Here's a sample rubric: https://t.co/862YnhTJWO #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    And, sometimes, you will find better luck if you can get parents to shift their perceptions of what Math class is #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99, @ChristineYH
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:42 PM EDT
    #bcedchat Excellent! I also like to look at the same assessment criteria on 5 questions, then going back and doing another criteria on those 5, back to do another on the 5 instead of 'assessing the whole multi-criteria' on each Q. Builds S understanding of assessment.
    • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
      I love using a table square where there are four questions and one S starts the question and we rotate the paper and the next fixes and continues to solve. Great math discussions come from this and I can see what each has been able to do #bcedchat
      In reply to @technolandy, @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    Isn't collaboration cheating? Shouldn't you be showing your OWN work? Oh wait, using the communication core competency, collaboration and shared learning through communication is necessary. #bcedchat
    In reply to @technolandy
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    Great chat cannot keep up #bcedchat
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A5: You must start by knowing where each student is. The growth begins there. #bcedchat
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:43 PM EDT
    A5: Love Carol Dweck's growth Minset stuff, just getting to know @joboaler and really need to have a shout out to @pgliljedahl #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    Growth mindsets lend well to formative assessment... especially in math. Math is not something you are born with. It is something that can be groomed... but we have to believe it's possible. #efficacy #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @joboaler
  • OlwenCowan Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    A5: Formative assessment is growth mindset....dependent on one another #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @joboaler
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    #bcedchat https://t.co/WZhmRRMcGO 100-page PDF of Math Formative Assessment Strategies for Middle School
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
    Wonderful! So really, we can say that all assessments we do can be considered formative, if we look at grade 8 to 12 as a whole #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Don’t forget to use the #bcedchat hashtag throughout the week to keep the conversation going!
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Without 'language understanding' our students can not make connections & build and embed their conceptual understandings #bcedchat
    In reply to @lyndasuelew, @ajgadd
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Good point. Peter's Vertical Non-Permanent Surfaces and Big Thinking Classrooms. Awesome. Lots of formative assessment too. #VNPS #bcedchat
    In reply to @stellafleming23, @joboaler, @pgliljedahl
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    But also notice in your write up "to show me". #bcedchat we need to do a paradigm shift to the 'me' being the student, not the teacher. FA should be to inform S of learning (as well as T of teaching/learning)
    • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:37 PM EDT
      We do open ended questions near the end of a group of units for a SA but as with all checkins they can correct and see what needs work before the next concept.They get to show me how their brains see the answers and how they can use what they have learnt #bcedchat
      In reply to @msyehuang, @HarMath
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    For me, numeracy education is like language acquisition. You need to understand syntax, but also fluency, creativity and communication. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @joboaler
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    Q6 is coming... #bcedchat
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    I can't help but think about the layer of 'math trauma' (@joboaler term) that fits into our FA work with Ss. In being explicit in the "why" and giving Ss voice in how they are feeling about their learning, hopefully we are making positive difference. #bcedchat
  • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A5: Ss are typically not ‘wrong.’ Often times, Ss are told they are wrong but they are on the right path and need to be encouraged to push their thinking a bit deeper. Mindset is key to Ss pushing & not shutting down. #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    That's so cool. #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99, @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH, @ajgadd
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
    A5 I always see a math question out of 5 where 4 marks is for showing me your thinkig (or work) and one mark for the answer #bcedchat
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    60 Formative Assesment Strategies https://t.co/7W5t9F7Vnu #bcedchat
  • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    General comment here, I think when teaching math with more formative assessments you’d have more students enjoy it??? Maybe? This def. would have worked for me. Summative assessments made me hate math and I still have a difficult time with it. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Love that thinking. Thank you Lana... and welcome to #bcedchat
    • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:45 PM EDT
      A5: Ss are typically not ‘wrong.’ Often times, Ss are told they are wrong but they are on the right path and need to be encouraged to push their thinking a bit deeper. Mindset is key to Ss pushing & not shutting down. #bcedchat
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    A5: I learned about Carol Dweck via @Lamond_J & “Drive” by @DanielPink (audiobook = great for the commute). “Drive” really helped make me feel more determined to lean into S ownership, real-world connection, goal-setting /intrinsic motivation to fuel achievement #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:40 PM EDT
      Q5: What role does @joboaler ‘s Mathematical Mindsets or Carol Dweck’s Growth Mindsets play in formative assessment in mathematics? #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    Q6: Why is it so important, in your opinion, to implement (and lean onto) formative assessment strategies in our mathematics classrooms? #bcedchat
  • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    A4: Observations and conversations! #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    A4: I have participated in @pgliljedahls Thinking Classroom Math lessons and I have gained so much as a math learner. Random groups (working with others) makes a huge difference. Sharing learning between groups makes a huge difference. Low floor high ceiling tasks #bcedchat
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
    I keep thinking that the more students drive assessment and learning, the more independence, efficacy and risk-taking they show. I wrote a blog on self-assessment as a strong form of formative assessment. Feedback welcomed. https://t.co/siGn4RaBJU #bcedchat
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    The only down-side is I usually need 3 periods for a mini-conference. Can't do it as often as I would like to. Right now I do it twice a semester. #bcedchat
    In reply to @brynmw, @jfprovencher27, @dramaqueen4
  • KennethHeadley - Moderator Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Love this- its funny how at the highest level pushes for creativity but at the lower formative aspect has always been based in memorization #bcedchat Be curious and learn to take chances!
    • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
      It is a well know phrase in my class to say how does your brain see solving this. Mine sees this lets see how you can solve it. There is no right or wrong.
      In reply to @KennethHeadley
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Yes. DRIVE was amazing. Changed my thinking on assessment and motivation. Good one Nicole!!! #bcedchat
    In reply to @nico1e, @Lamond_J, @DanielPink
  • BanGendrUnicorn Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    Been there, done that, but haven't seen SOGI 123 as a Sunday night topic yet. #bcedchat
    In reply to @bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
    A4: To continue: @pgliljedahl is whipping around watching watching watching to ensure that everyone is engaged and everyone gets the "just right support". Trust me, I have been in the struggling group and he knew it :) #bcedchat
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    I think that would be an awesome topic. As co-mods, we will make this happen #bcedchat
    In reply to @BanGendrUnicorn, @bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    Awesome. Thank you. Love that idea. Students drive assessment and learning. #bcedchat
    • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
      I keep thinking that the more students drive assessment and learning, the more independence, efficacy and risk-taking they show. I wrote a blog on self-assessment as a strong form of formative assessment. Feedback welcomed. https://t.co/siGn4RaBJU #bcedchat
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    This exposed for me that I was a trigger-based learner. I have tons of things learned that are stored in memory with triggers that recall these areas...just like most paper/pencil math tests do so I was successful in school. Other learners are fantastic at blank paper #bcedchat
    • technolandy Apr 15 @ 10:36 PM EDT
      Blank piece of paper: what do you know about ____ (write or draw) (Or conversation for those with written output issues) #bcedchat
      In reply to @msyehuang, @rilmcknight, @HarMath
  • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:48 PM EDT
    A6 because math is linear, you must understand the parts to make sure you get the whole idea. For example, why do we have Pie in the formula of a circle #bcedchat
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A5 I’ve seen such a difference in my class once grades were removed and I’ve been working on acceptance and collaboration skills. Everyone brings something to their math group. It’s been slow but attitudes are changing.
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Strategies for Formative Assessment - National Council of Teachers of Mathematics https://t.co/ox5jXCVgp9 #bcedchat
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:49 PM EDT
    Big question: are we talking high schools? Seems like something that can be embraced to grade 9 by many and then it's the 100 point scale. #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99, @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH, @brynmw
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    Please bookmark our homepage to keep up to date on #bcedchat info, archives, and topic suggestions https://t.co/crmN0EjjX6
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    What about problems that are open & have multiple answers #bcedchat Do questions need to have a number score - can they be EG: no understanding, limited, developing, sound, extended
    In reply to @rilmcknight
  • kristi_daws Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A6: Formative assessments guide your roadmap. If the students are not showing growth, time for a detour. #bcedchat
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A5: Also there is the innovator's mindset stuff from @gcouros that goes along with formative assessment in Math. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    We all have natural talent... but we all can learn math too. I believe that. Formative assessment helps. Believing in Growth Mindset helps as well. The struggle is the learning process. In math, I find that we can easily give up. #bcedchat
    • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:47 PM EDT
      You think its inner abilities, you don't think it is possible to learn from it...
      In reply to @ChristineYH, @brynmw, @joboaler
  • dramaqueen4 Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    A6: (Mom perspective) Because tests (ugh!) are big, ugly, anxiety-creating, scary monsters for kids. So I would like to say to Math folks -- lean on formative and don't push kids to do the summative until they are ready. And how about summative that arent always tests! #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:50 PM EDT
    Q7 is coming... #bcedchat PS. This chat is going fast. Thank you everyone for participating.
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    #bcedchat If I believe "all assessments should improve learning", I will look to how even summative assessments can be reviewed formatively in preparation for re-writing a diff. form of test or to show later in year, their improved mastery on concept
    • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:44 PM EDT
      Wonderful! So really, we can say that all assessments we do can be considered formative, if we look at grade 8 to 12 as a whole #bcedchat
      In reply to @HarMath
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:51 PM EDT
    I think it can be in the grad programme, but you still need to have percentages on hand if asked. Especially for universties in the states. (which also ask for grade 9 percentages...) #bcedchat
    In reply to @ajgadd, @19apples99, @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    I think there are many ways we can summatively assess that are not the summative assessments I had to complete (and likely you too) - the multi page, by yourself paper test. #bcedchat
    • teachermrskhan Apr 15 @ 10:46 PM EDT
      General comment here, I think when teaching math with more formative assessments you’d have more students enjoy it??? Maybe? This def. would have worked for me. Summative assessments made me hate math and I still have a difficult time with it. #bcedchat
  • DeniseDibbs Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A3. Formative assessment important in teaching science (esp higher grades). Helps me see concepts not understood since u need those concepts to move up to higher ones. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    When it is a culture that supports #agency Ss are empowered to discuss & ask questions at their point of need and understanding - removing the score and replace with level of understanding is a great start - student language #bcedchat
    In reply to @19apples99
  • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    A6: Formative assessment tells me what I need to do next to help my Ss reach the outcome. It is my responsibility as a professional to respond to the formative assessment in my classroom. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Q7: Based on tonight’s conversation, is there something you have learned about formative assessment in mathematics that you would like to embed into your practice or investigate further? If so, what? #bcedchat
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
    Took a LOT for me to build up a student’s self confidence & buy-in. I almost had an anxiety attack knowing I needed to send home a C- on gr.8 report card. I just hoped that my ultra-encouraging comments alongside could mitigate what I knew he’d perceive as a blow. 😔 #bcedchat
    • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:49 PM EDT
      #bcedchat A5 I’ve seen such a difference in my class once grades were removed and I’ve been working on acceptance and collaboration skills. Everyone brings something to their math group. It’s been slow but attitudes are changing.
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    That begs so many questions about who determines what we do but I will save that for another day ;) #bcedchat
    • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:51 PM EDT
      I think it can be in the grad programme, but you still need to have percentages on hand if asked. Especially for universties in the states. (which also ask for grade 9 percentages...) #bcedchat
      In reply to @ajgadd, @19apples99, @teachermrskhan, @ChristineYH
  • RosePillay1 Apr 15 @ 10:53 PM EDT
    #bcedchat checkout @YouCubedOrg for assessment resources in mathematics https://t.co/hWWtaQ7euz
  • stellafleming23 Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    A6: The short answer is - it just is! You can't build in Math without it. It is important to use various strategies depending on your students in the how we implement formative assessment. #bcedchat
  • notjustup2u Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Yes - they could just be a set of questions - remove the hype #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @ChristineYH
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Forgot hashtag #bcedchat
    • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:53 PM EDT
      SFU math researchers showed Ss thought formative assignments were for their professors and not for their own learning so were bombing their summative testing. Once they shifted the paradigm, grades went way up as Ss sought to see how work was helping them grow, not showing T.
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    I bet! It sure is a wonderful time to authentically view through the learner lens! Perfect time with all the core competency work and things such as tonight's #bcedchat topic to consider. How is the program going? :)
    In reply to @nico1e
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
    Q7: I loved this one. I am totally exploring this. I have done it in art but now I see such potential. #bcedchat
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Follow the people you have met in this chat - you will find they are the resource. #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    That is so true. Our self-talk. Math efficacy. "I can't do math" has got to stop. I teach pre-service (non-math specialist) teachers who believe this. MATH IS EVERYWHERE. Math is fun too. Let's embrace Math. Formative assessment helps. #bcedchat
    • jfprovencher27 Apr 15 @ 10:53 PM EDT
      I focus a lot on language use in the class... I'm not good in math, I hate math... change the language to I am learning math... I am getting better at.... i am working on....
      In reply to @ChristineYH
  • ajgadd Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A7: how'd we get to Q7? There is so much I would love to ask about math assessment. I wonder how teachers create a classroom community in math classrooms. I want to know if @pgliljedahl's group learning for math is common or novel. #bcedchat
  • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    A6: The beauty of working as an interventionist is the privilege of only having a small group at literally responding to them in the moment as I observe their learning. #bcedchat
  • 19apples99 Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    #bcedchat A6 because it builds confidence which is key.
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    Q8 is coming... I can't believe it. I can barely catch my breath. Yay US!!! #bcedchat
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    By changing to check ins my students have lost that anxiety. One S told another "don't worry its a check in so we and ms mcknight can see where we are in our learning. No stress cuz we can fix it later. " I loved this #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @ChristineYH
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:55 PM EDT
    That's pretty interesting. From this, I hear that when students understand the purpose of the assessment, there is more authentic responses. #bcedchat
    In reply to @HarMath
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    We need your topic suggestions! Please suggest a topic for a future #bcedchat here: https://t.co/gT195rXzC1
  • DeniseDibbs Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Q4. E.g. of formative. Qu of the day. HW ck or quiz. Grps of std white boarding problems. Predict ObserveExplain. Exit tickets. Lab conclusion. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    A7: I would actually really appreciate it if you could share resources (like books, or district resource webpages, exemplars) that have helped you work towards better formative/summative ‘skills & thinking’ assessments. I get anxiety without examples to guide me. #bcedchat
    • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
      Q7: Based on tonight’s conversation, is there something you have learned about formative assessment in mathematics that you would like to embed into your practice or investigate further? If so, what? #bcedchat
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Q8: What books, people, or weblinks would you recommend to help others with Formative Assessment in Mathematics? #bcedchat
  • kresak2j Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    I loved giving non-test summative when I taught 8th grade math. Way more application based and less anxiety. More chance for mastery and deep understanding #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @ChristineYH
  • HarMath Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    #bcedchat I've got a phone call I need to take so thank you all for 'triggering' much recall on the power of FA! Thank you #bcedchat moderators and the community again for such help in improving our learning!
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Well, that answers @nico1e 's question/request.....cool. #bcedchat
    In reply to @ChristineYH, @nico1e
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    That is sooooo Q8. Thanks Nicole. Agreed. Let's share!!! #bcedchat
    • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:56 PM EDT
      A7: I would actually really appreciate it if you could share resources (like books, or district resource webpages, exemplars) that have helped you work towards better formative/summative ‘skills & thinking’ assessments. I get anxiety without examples to guide me. #bcedchat
      • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:52 PM EDT
        Q7: Based on tonight’s conversation, is there something you have learned about formative assessment in mathematics that you would like to embed into your practice or investigate further? If so, what? #bcedchat
  • Teachinginthe21 Apr 15 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    Rose you are the Jedi Master tonight of awesome resource share out!! #gratefulforyou #bcedchat
    In reply to @RosePillay1, @YouCubedOrg
  • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:57 PM EDT
    On Tuesday, the #atAssess chat is asking for your questions about assessment. BC teachers have a unique perspective and we would love to hear your ideas. Join us Tues. at 6PT. #bcedchat
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Thank you for joining #bcedchat tonight!
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    It goes back to how we understand our own learners. Start where they are. Thank you for all you do. #bcedchat
    In reply to @jfprovencher27, @dramaqueen4, @msyehuang
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Thoughtful on the fly Rose. This is your jam. I like it. #bcedchat
  • kresak2j Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Just popping in. Math builds so much unit to unit that it seems cruel to base assessments only on a summative unit test. I bet most students could retake a test from a couple months ago and ace it #mastery #bcedchat
  • msyehuang Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    Yes, summative assessments don't have to be tests! I like doing projects and math fairs (though I cannot do projects for all units b/c the marking load would increase by a lot). #bcedchat
    In reply to @dramaqueen4, @ChristineYH
  • brynmw Apr 15 @ 10:58 PM EDT
    I was going to suggest that #bcedchat educators check out #atAssess on Tuesdays. It's a great chat around assessment in a positive learning way.
    • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:57 PM EDT
      On Tuesday, the #atAssess chat is asking for your questions about assessment. BC teachers have a unique perspective and we would love to hear your ideas. Join us Tues. at 6PT. #bcedchat
  • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Please join #bcedchat next week on Sunday, April 22nd at 7pm PST for our topic Developing Reflective Cultures in our Classroom.
  • LanaSteiner4 Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    A7: I would like to learn more about Ss engaging in self-assessment of their learning (not necessarily the outcome or standard but rather their process of learning). #bcedchat
  • kresak2j Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
  • davidwees Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    A1: (Jumping in late) Here’s how we define formative assessment in our math curriculum project: https://t.co/g748ZSDCXf We focus on formative assessment as a process not a product. #BCedchat
    • bcedchat Apr 15 @ 10:06 PM EDT
      Q1: What is formative assessment? Compare this to summative assessment? #bcedchat
  • nico1e Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    We do this in French when we play verb relays and do peer conferencing. I also tell my students that I see some mistakes that I don’t want them to fix because the grade 8 stuff is perfect & beyond that=messy extensions! Messy french is beautiful for grade eight 😊 #bcedchat
    • KatieWhite426 Apr 15 @ 10:54 PM EDT
      Q7: I loved this one. I am totally exploring this. I have done it in art but now I see such potential. #bcedchat
  • lyndasuelew Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    I am working on first formal reports this week with my class...and have to assign a grade. :( Breaks my heart when we have worked so diligently for 3 months to build confidence and break away from negative feelings so that growth and self-view are starting to skyrocket! #bcedchat
    In reply to @nico1e
  • kresak2j Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    A8: Dan @ddmeyer 3 Act Math activities amazing! #bcedchat
  • rilmcknight Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Look to the book assessment for of and as learning. It is the must read for all MB teachers #bcedchat
    In reply to @nico1e
  • ChristineYH Apr 15 @ 10:59 PM EDT
    Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Please send us a reminder. Tuesday, 6pm PST. #bcedchat #atAssess
    In reply to @KatieWhite426