#sblchat Archive
Wednesday October 19, 2016
9:00 PM EDT
RoweRikW
Oct 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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- Enjoy tonight's chat. I'll miss our Crew, but will check out our archive later.
@garnet_hillman
MrsMurat
Oct 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:00 PM EDT
#sblchat
starts now!! We are talking about student motivation tonight. Please start intros...
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:01 PM EDT
Hello all! Scott from Winnipeg, Manitoba. Teach Gr. 12 English and Gr. 7 technology. My tweets for the next hour belong to
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hiya
#sblchat
! Katie, 6th grade science teacher, tweeting from the Chicagoland area tonight. Happy to be here with you all!
leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
I'm 30 yr English h.s. teacher in Maine; 3 yrs in SBL. Getting 4 course grad cert in SBL now.
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Tara Reed. Denton, Tx.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
Good evening Scott!
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello
#sblchat
Missed this crew last week.
https://t.co/xYsgeUOyoV
mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Hello! My first chat--Grade 10, 11, 12 English teacher at Elk Grove High
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Hello there friend!
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
My tweets for the next hour will be focused on
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… as I multitask by also watching the debate! Melanie - High School Social Studies
EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:02 PM EDT
Good evening PLN at
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Michael, HS Principal, Rhode Island.
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
I am flying solo without my incredible partner in crime tonight
@RoweRikW
so be kind as I try to keep up!
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Arthur Chiaravalli, ELA 12 and
#APLit
teacher from the Mitten, reporting for
#sblchat
!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@leamonteach
Hi Rebecca, thanks for staying up to join us!
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Hola!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@ReedTaraann1
Hello Tara!
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Kirk here from the Chicago Northshore doing what I love!! Teacher of 6-8th grade math.
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chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi everyone! Jess Bank, 9&10 English teacher out of WI joining the conversation tonight!
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Diana_Sarao
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
Hi! I'm Diana Sarao, curriculum coordinator in Katy, Texas.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:03 PM EDT
@mattsnow9
Welcome Matt! We are honored to have you with us.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Hi Mandi!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@MsMontagnon
Glad to have you with us Melanie!
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Elk Grove, Illinois, to be exact
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@EGHSPrincipalRI
Good evening Michael!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Hi Arthur!
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
A lot of
#sblchat
-ting today after
@prinz_matt
and my book group met to discuss
@TomSchimmer
's Grading From the Inside Out
teachshel
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
Shelley-Professional Learning Specialist in Virginia
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:04 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Now here I was, thinking you were going to say that you loved
#sblchat
. :)
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@chicknorris307
Glad you are with us tonight Jess!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@Diana_Sarao
Hi Diana!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@teachshel
Hi Shelley!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:05 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Hi Kirk!
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:06 PM EDT
TY
@leamonteach
Might try to get this
#sblchat
doc going 2 share schools & resources w/ others. Please share freely
https://t.co/hirfI9HY8S
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Q1 What are some motivators for student learning that have been successful for you?
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@mattsnow9
Awesome! Welcome to
#sblchat
! It's a good one ...
KatieKrobillard
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Katie from Windom MN first time on twitter
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
Chris from IL. Would happily invite any of our
@Wheeling_Cats
@EconTeach
@TeachSSNTech
@rkinnee
@MsMattWildcat
@Jzoro7
@MrWeberWHS
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:07 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Thanks for joining us tonight Chris!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Strong relationships with students are an incredible motivator. We are all on the same side working together to learn!
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Jessica here from Wisconsin. Super happy to learn from you all! :-)
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
@jbrogley
We are happy you are spending time with us tonight Jessica!
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Giving Ss multiple chances to demo mastery, as well as ownership of grade, has been biggest motivators for my Ss and me.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1: Ss are motivated to learn when they are given opportunity to be successful.
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
Awesome to hear
@hhschiaravalli
We are using
@TomSchimmer
GFIO as a district wide read.
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@prinz_matt
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
I know it's a classic but choice is a main motivator for my Ss. I try to give them as much control as possible.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Students need relevancy to buy in and engage. Making classroom experiences meaningful & providing the ‘why?’ support motivation.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
A1 Only motivator I find to be effective is intrinsic. I strive to find ways to tap into it for each S. Hard to do, but worth it!!
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koliver555
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
Kelly Oliver here from Katy, Tx. Looking forward to learning together tonight.
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A1: When I make the learning experience meaningful beyond the four walls, the kids forget about the grade.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:09 PM EDT
@koliver555
Thanks for joining us Kelly!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
RT Q1 What are some motivators for student learning that have been successful for you?
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Also models from other sts or real world examples with lively discussion of them.
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#umfedu568
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
A1: Control is easier to give (and take) when strong relationships are present. Ts & Ss can design learning together
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
Sandra from IL - I just got an invite to
#sblchat
from
@ChrisRugg
! Feeling privileged!
jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Intrinsic is key. Extrinsic is only temp and fails if the reward isn't constant.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@EconTeach
We are thrilled you are joining the discussion Sandra!
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Replacing grades with feedback and revisions (for as long as possible). Grades cause learning to stop--opposite of motivation.
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1. Ss are motivated when they feel Ts truly care about them and empower them to own their learning.
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bbrog
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Giving students ownership and/or choices in their learning is motivational for student learning.
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@jbrogley
@KatieBudrow
Yeah! Dweck's Mindset: so true!
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1 Making learning authentic is the best motivator for Ss. Yet, in a system where grades live, they are still the biggest motivator
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Just had this conversation with some visiting Ts today. Important message
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MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Getting to know S’s as individuals & incorporating student interests into content
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koliver555
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
Choice plays the part of motivator in an ELA classroom - choice in text, in prompts, in demonstration of learning
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@garnet_hillman
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@bbrog
Absolutely! It is their learning after all.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
@jbrogley
Totally agree. Hard to break that reward cycle sometimes.
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: The responsibility of choice and independence
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chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: Engage with students about non-school topics to build relationships.
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MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
Kerri, 7th grade math teacher. A little late to the party!
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: I agree with
@hhschiaravalli
and replacing grades after revision/feedback
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ACKCPSPrincipal
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: need to continue work of shifting to learning as intrinsic motivation & away from "game of school.” Ss love it when they get it
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
@MsSustich
No worries Kerri! Glad to have you with us.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
A1: Yes! And letting students assign those grades with Ts when the a grade is required.
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@koliver555
@garnet_hillman
Yes, but also I find a shared exp is important: Of Mice and Men in our school: huge bond. So a balance.
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
Essential! Ss buy into the teacher first. Then they see how SBL helps them grow.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:08 PM EDT
A1 Strong relationships with students are an incredible motivator. We are all on the same side working together to learn!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
@ACKCPSPrincipal
Agreed. The game of school must stop.
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ACKCPSPrincipal
Oct 19 @ 9:13 PM EDT
A1: Students also aim to please when they trust you care about them. Take the time to build positive relationships first.
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1: When Ss get some choice in how, where, at what pace they learn they are motivated.
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Dave joining late in IA
mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
I've had kids grade on rubric and justify and see if their grade matches mine kept secret from them. They love it
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
A1 Tracy from MA joining in
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. Ss are motivated when they care about content being presented & know Ts care about them.
ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
So true. The points culture does not motivate Ss or motivates them to play the game not focus on Learning.
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:10 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Intrinsic is key. Extrinsic is only temp and fails if the reward isn't constant.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
@hhschiaravalli
Conferencing with students about grades is incredibly powerful and valuable for you and the kids.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@TracyMailloux
Welcome Tracy!
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D4N4K
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
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A1:typically grades only motivate high achievers,teacher's unconditional support/guidance&effective feedback can reach many more
prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
I also find students don't care what you know until they know you care...
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1: Ok let's address this though. Not everything we do is super fun. What do you do when you have content that is hard to jazz up.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@mattsnow9
I do something similar, but basically conference for a grade. Ss determine the level. I agree or disagree. Cool stuff!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
@prinz_matt
#relationshipsareeverything
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Bingo. And gradebook setup is essential to help foster this in practice.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1: Replacing grades with feedback and revisions (for as long as possible). Grades cause learning to stop--opposite of motivation.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
A1:
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koliver555
Oct 19 @ 9:15 PM EDT
Yes. Conferences and direct feedback maximizes learning for students.
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@garnet_hillman
@scotthazeu
@hhschiaravalli
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@hhschiaravalli
Agreed! Tremendous learning for everyone whenever I'm a part of conferences.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
Q2 Does extrinsic motivation have a place in schools and classrooms? Why or why not?
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@scotthazeu
@hhschiaravallii
Have had some pushback from the top s in our change. Conversations can change that.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@jbrogley
I think it comes down to your rapport with your students. They work to make you proud when they know you care
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
A1: My motivators are always my students. They always amaze me with what they can accomplish with high standards.
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@ACKCPSPrincipal
Ps need to be part of this work as well for buy-in
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
It's hard to break the habit of school game for teachers - been playing it longer than the Ss!
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@DerekSwierczek
@rkinnee
@MsMattWildcat
@bruce_french214
@wstemlibrary
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:11 PM EDT
A1. Ss are motivated when they feel Ts truly care about them and empower them to own their learning.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:16 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Yes! Perhaps gradebook setup is a chat topic in the future?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2 Extrinsic motivation didn’t have a place in my classroom. The highest achievers responded to it and they didn’t need it anyway!
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@prinz_matt
Absolutely true!
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
A2: Honestly, I am not sure. While we all strive for intrinsic motivation, is having some extrinsic bad? I'm not sure either way.
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
So much grading is culture; doubt we can escape extr 100%. Even a smile can be ext reward, right?
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@EGHSPrincipalRI
they are usually closer that I would think. Harder on themselves, yes, but if rubric is clear, it works
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Used to have an SBG grade book...Now, I've replaced the grade book with a portfolio...😁
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Nope. Not effective. Some small payoffs occur for the short-term, but nothing that sticks long-term. Intrinsic is where it's at.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Extrinsic motivators can have a negative impact- if we are rewarded to learn, we expect the same or more next time to engage.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Until there is a pedagogical shift for ALL in their understanding of purpose of school, extrinsic motivation will always exist
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Honestly think it does. It can't always be about what Ss want. If left to their own devices, many Ss would do nothing.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2: Extrinsic motivation is not the best idea. We need to have Ss who are intrinsically motived to have the most success.
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 I don't believe absolutes are best practice either way. Every learner is different.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
RT Q2 Does extrinsic motivation have a place in schools and classrooms? Why or why not?
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Extrinsic motivation has only short term success and does not build the
#growthmindset
that we want in kids.
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MsMontagnon
I agree. Long slow change there!
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
Great to see the
@ElkGrove_HS
and
@Wheeling_Cats
representation here tonight.
@District214
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:12 PM EDT
A1: I agree with
@hhschiaravalli
and replacing grades after revision/feedback
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@MsMontagnon
I was just thinking the same thing. It would be impossible to get rid of all extrinsic in our current state.
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koliver555
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2 Extr motivation does not last long. Relationships, Choice, Creativity, Authenticity - all immeasurable but invaluable.
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
I agree that majority should be intrinsic, but sometimes Ss need external motivators. Not best option, but...
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MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:19 PM EDT
A2: Depends on the type! 7th graders love stickers/stamps & being recognized for quality work.
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
The answer to A2: is in the book Drive by
@DanielPink
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: No, but it also depends on where the students are. Kolbergs stages of moral development
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
A2: Ultimately, no. But we're dealing with a widespread addiction to something unnatural, harmful. "Rehab" may be the best metaphor
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@leamonteach
Yup! It is possible “slow and steady” … we will get there some day!!
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Can you give an example? Thanks!
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Go, growth mindset! (Keep parents in mind too though! They need ed. there too).
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:20 PM EDT
Time has to be built for this in the instructional planning.
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https://t.co/QtRaHoZCGu
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:14 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
@hhschiaravalli
Conferencing with students about grades is incredibly powerful and valuable for you and the kids.
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
:-) via
@alfiekohn
"If the question is “Do rewards motivate people?” the answer is “Sure — they motivate people to get rewards.”
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@jbrogley
Exactly! Extrinsic motivators are engrained in our culture. It will take time!
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teachshel
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Reality is that both extrinsic & intrinsic exist in life. Think paycheck. Need 2 find right recipe for each situation.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Absolutely!
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@leamonteach
They are the ones that might take longer to buy in.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Q2: Perhaps extrin can be used to point out learning and used as gateway to the superior intrin? Comparison could show superiority
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Ss must feel a chance of success 2 develop intrinsict motivation that's when external might be needed. Once motivated you got them!
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Exactly!
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JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
Josh, HS Principal, Iowa joining late A2: Extr motivation is effective for short term success, not sustainable impact on learning
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
BAM!
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No
@RoweRikW
here to do it, so somebody has to! :)
https://t.co/0vT8SDOzpG
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Extrinsic motivators can have a negative impact- if we are rewarded to learn, we expect the same or more next time to engage.
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
Quote via blog post The Bonus Effect
https://t.co/lZhpnWg6F8
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https://t.co/u0b7tDn532
EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
:-) via
@alfiekohn
"If the question is “Do rewards motivate people?” the answer is “Sure — they motivate people to get rewards.”
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
For ex, our sch has final exam periods. Should be final conference time. Big difference!
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@teachshel
But if we are just working for a paycheck then we aren't our best. Sadly, I see it education & our paycheck isn't great.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@EGHSPrincipalRI
Love that one.
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
A2: if we want to remove extrinsic motivators, we need to connect with Ss so they change how they view themselves
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Hey
#SBLchat
- sorry, joining late - please don't take off any points :) Brett, middle school music/band
ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@Rebeccah_silver
@DeanRichard23
@cscoggins34
weren't we just talking about this.
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https://t.co/Hzr40wHDN7
hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:17 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
Used to have an SBG grade book...Now, I've replaced the grade book with a portfolio...😁
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
Yes - see graded practice/homework as an example
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https://t.co/gZW8wPQNqb
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:18 PM EDT
A2 Extrinsic motivators can have a negative impact- if we are rewarded to learn, we expect the same or more next time to engage.
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@prinz_matt
. . . which brings us back to Q1 tonight, right? :)
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@brettdimmer
No points removed this time Brett...but don't be late again! lol
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:23 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
@Rebeccah_silver
@DeanRichard23
@cscoggins34
Here's a post I wrote about it:
https://t.co/Ufz9SUA0u3
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JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Strong argument form Daniel Pink, that the paycheck is not really the motivation, it is the purpose!
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https://t.co/dkHTiolblu
teachshel
Oct 19 @ 9:21 PM EDT
A2: Reality is that both extrinsic & intrinsic exist in life. Think paycheck. Need 2 find right recipe for each situation.
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
@ACKCPSPrincipal
I'm ready! Thinking about a series...
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:24 PM EDT
Big fan. The final has to be rethought if it is intended 2b used as a learning tool.
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@bruce_french214
…
https://t.co/JqDZL7S0EG
leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:22 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
For ex, our sch has final exam periods. Should be final conference time. Big difference!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 Why are ‘if-then’ statements ineffective for students and their learning?
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@teachshel
I might not work much for my paycheck. I might just lower my standard of living. :)
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@MsSustich
I wonder if it really is a motivator or just something they think is fun. If I had to guess, I would say the latter ...
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Yes! I love Drive by
@DanielPink
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
My two favorite books on this are Punished by Rewards by
@alfiekohn
and Drive by
@DanielPink
. Both essential reads!
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
I have Ss who will only do the minimum, & that's bc I hold them accountable for learning. Without me... no learning
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A3 When if-then statements are used, Ss focus on ‘then’ rather than ‘if’. ‘If’ is usually related to learning and can’t be ignored!
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brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:26 PM EDT
A2
#SBLchat
Not a big fan of extrinsic, but I know that they sometimes can be initial motivator that can lead to long-term positive outcomes
KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3 Puts too much focus on the 'then'. The 'if' falls by the wayside, and it's normally the most important part.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
@KatieBudrow
Kids can't learn without the teacher?
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: I think an if you work on the stds you need help on then you will be successful is an acceptable if-then statement.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:27 PM EDT
A3: If/then has limited effectiveness because it limits options for Ss. Open-ended, inquiry, PBL, etc. lead to more ownership.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
RT Q3 Why are ‘if-then’ statements ineffective for students and their learning?
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3 It's the dangling carrot; instant gratification doesn't mean long lasting results.
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
In Econ we learn that efficiency wages (above & beyond) motivate workers. SBG has same effect for my Ss. Success motivates!
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D4N4K
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
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A3: because learning shouldn't stop when a grade is given
https://t.co/IZjD4tgiL3
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
Q3 Why are ‘if-then’ statements ineffective for students and their learning?
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Yes! Love me some Drive by
@DanielPink
... one of my all-time favorites.
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
A3: If/Then makes learning conditional and it's not. There are infinite ways to learn but none are guaranteed.
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:28 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
@KatieBudrow
not what I meant. Some Ss won't learn, or put effort in, without T holding them accountable. Extrinsic
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 Makes me think of
@garnet_hillman
- When the learning happens, the grade will follow. Focus on the important part, not if/then.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@TracyMailloux
Exactly. Carrots and sticks don't work.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3 - “If-Then” minimizes real learning and growth
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MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: "If-then" statements take away all individuality. We don't all learn at the same things at the same time.
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chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
A3: Because "if you study [topic] then you will [do y]" has limited applicability beyond the classroom and points to one outcome.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@D4N4K
Which is why I keep everything formative until the end of the semester. Learning continues.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:29 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
@KatieBudrow
No learning is a valid (if poor) S choice. See blogpost:
https://t.co/YhzTImOh5d
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
Make sure to follow all the wonderful people you are chatting with tonight!
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@EconTeachalso
find s knowledge of own skills is motivator. Some may decide to stop at proficient but they make the decision. Power!
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: In Geometry, if-then (conditional) statements are quite effective when solving proofs. Haha!
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
A3: if we show students that every choice has a consequence then they can begin thinking b4 they make a choice.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:30 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
I've had similar students. Took a while to tap into their intrinsic motivation, but eventually it worked!
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
I love this. For some kids w/o a minimum expectation there would be no learning.
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@jzoro7
@EconTeach
…
https://t.co/FCokAiIyNJ
kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:25 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
I have Ss who will only do the minimum, & that's bc I hold them accountable for learning. Without me... no learning
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: To me, if-then statements seem like a threat. "If you do this, then you get this..." Why can't we just talk about learning?
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teachshel
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A2: I withdraw my paycheck example, but stand by the fact that extrinsic motivators are real and have power, if not value.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3: I if/then as motivation "in order to." Ideally, motivation is found in the meaningful experiences, tasks, problems themselves
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
@kirk_humphreys
Is motivation and accountability the same thing? I would say no ...
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JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 If-then assumes that learning will be clean, and learning is messy. Need to make Teachers more comfortable with that.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
Love this!
#sblchat
https://t.co/09YuUJU7rM
JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:31 PM EDT
A3 If-then assumes that learning will be clean, and learning is messy. Need to make Teachers more comfortable with that.
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3 Most "if-then" statements are only attempts to have students "learn" to be compliant.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@jbrogley
I put the most recent on the formative. The summative is a trend score.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
@teachshel
I would agree that extrinsic motivators can have power, but I would argue it is definitely negative power.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:32 PM EDT
A3: I interpret "if-then" as motivation "in order to." Ideally, motivation is found in meaningful experiences, tasks themselves
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
agreed bit I choose not to give that option. There's a minimum level they must attain b4 deciding not to go on
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@ChrisRugg
@Jzoro7
@EconTeach
@MsMattWildcat
@DerekSwierczek
Choosing not 2 learning may be important 1st step in S owning learning
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!
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leamonteach
Oct 19 @ 9:33 PM EDT
Ah, 5 am has hit. To bed for me. Thanks, everyone!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
Q4 What impact does competition in the classroom have on learning?
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
@leamonteach
I really appreciate you joining us tonight Rebecca! Next week?
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brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:34 PM EDT
A3: IF we give engage Ss in multiple meaningful learning experiences THEN Ss will be able to successfully demonstrate learning
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Competition signals that there are winners and losers in learning. When we learn, everyone wins, period.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
Threat or incentive. If you do this, then you GET this. Either way, only provides short-term gains. No long-term.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4: For many of my Ss competition shuts them down. As
@joboaler
says fast doesn't = smart but competition many times rewards fast.
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A4: Depends on if Ss have a competitive spirit. For me, I won't try hard because I think I'll lose anyway.
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Competition has negative affect on learning. Mastery is not a limited resource to compete over. All should strive for it.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
A4 Competition leads to ineffective “learning” habits, pressure towards academic dishonesty, & stifles real learning growth
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:35 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
Thanks. I'm trying to clarify my thinking. This group always gives me a lot to think about!
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Can be fun but not for anything high stakes--maybe review games, etc.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Learning is not a race - it is not about when you learn something, it matters that you learn it.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Shifts the focus to the competition instead of the learning. Just gets in the way. Put that focus squarely on the learning.
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4: Friendly competition as a part of practice or formatives raises levels of concern BUT competition for grades is deadly.
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A3: No competition unless we are an out of date school preparing factory workers with quotas and compliance...
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A4: Unless it's collaborative and super fun...then I'll give a whirl. It has to be low risk.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
@joboaler
Very true...the learning isn't less valuable because it takes a little longer.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
agree
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"If you bring me Pepsi bottle caps, I will give you extra credit."
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
RT Q4 What impact does competition in the classroom have on learning?
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JoshKunnath
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@brettdimmer
I agree. Although not ideal, extrinsic motivation can be used carefully and initially for reluctant learners.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
Me too. Wednesdays always have my head spinning (in a great way). :)
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
Yes, this! Low risk is key.
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https://t.co/B7fnkr79FM
jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A4: Unless it's collaborative and super fun...then I'll give a whirl. It has to be low risk.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@prinz_matt
Love me some
@KenRobinsonHEU1
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4
#SBLchat
in my bands, Ss often try 2 "get better than" peer- (1/2 continued)
MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Both pos/neg. Competing in teams allows S's to work towards common goals/mastery. But fast does not equal always equal better.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4: Competition takes the focus away from improving yourself to learn. It then puts the effort on comparing yourself to others.
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TracyMailloux
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4 I try to encourage competition within oneself: how can I improve?
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brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
A4
#SBLchat
(2/2 continued) tho this is motivator, need to help them focus on indiv. improv rather than just being better than someone else
ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4. Competition in learning shatters a safe learning environment where all Ss feel they have a voice in the learning.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: The metaphor of sports, although helpful in some respects, has done more harm than good in my opinion
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ILGlobalScholar
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Help make a better world for our kids! VOTE for Illinois Global Scholar @
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KatieKrobillard
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I think it depends if they are competing against themselves and trying to beat their personal best
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teachshel
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Thoughts about class rank, which is competitive... How do you move away from them at deep-rooted tradition?
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JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4 Successful teams breed competition every drill/practice, not just to win, but to improve yourself. That works for my classroom.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
A4: Competition is often simply a distraction. D. Pink shows how competition lowers performance when cognitive tasks are involved.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
@TracyMailloux
The challenge from within - love it!
#sblchat
mrstokes24
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
Debate vs
#sblchat
. Not a tough decision.
DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:39 PM EDT
A4: Learning should be cooperative and collaborative - competition defeats the
#growthmindset
principles & adds unneeded pressure.
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Ts setting environment of competition is harmful, but Ss choosing to compete with their pals - powerful!
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
A4: It's hard to move away from society comparing Ss to others when that's exactly what our state standardized tests do.
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Devil is in the details...
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https://t.co/wVSNAfqfRL
EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
Ts setting environment of competition is harmful, but Ss choosing to compete with their pals - powerful!
#sblchat
ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:40 PM EDT
@Wheeling_360
#sblchat
https://t.co/ULRMPWkGBf
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:36 PM EDT
A4 Learning is not a race - it is not about when you learn something, it matters that you learn it.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
A4: Which is why I'm dismayed when
#edtech
presentations are still stuck on Quizlet Live, Kahoot! All low on Bloom's taxonomy
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
We need to get rid of standardized testing. How do we get this done?
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
This group always leaves me in a positive place.
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https://t.co/M4vPhPp1UL
KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:37 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
Me too. Wednesdays always have my head spinning (in a great way). :)
#sblchat
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:41 PM EDT
@JJohnsonCCHS
Win on court is well defined. A win is defined differently for each student, so competition isn't a helpful measure.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
Interesting perspective. I never thought it that way.
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ChrisRugg
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
#sblchat
#growthmindset
https://t.co/TLUsyE2CCX
KatieKrobillard
Oct 19 @ 9:38 PM EDT
I think it depends if they are competing against themselves and trying to beat their personal best
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:42 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
@hhschiaravalli
That is very interesting food for thought...
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
Q5 What does intrinsic motivation look like in classrooms and schools?
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@TTmomTT
Agree! If only we could.
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chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:43 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
fantastic observation! Anything from an A to understanding one concept could be a win for our students.
#sblchat
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Intrinsic motivation in the classroom can look messy. Ss are working at their own pace and their own level to maximize learning.
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KatieKrobillard
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
Isn't trying to do better than you did before an intrinsic motivated?
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Extrinsic, yes. In some cases I think rock bottom is needed to rebound to intrinsic motivation. Hit reset as a S.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5 Ss excited & proud to share their learning; Ss choice & voice: Ss actively engaged in learning
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: When a S comes to me and says can you give me more practice on ___ because I still need to work on it.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: When you see students excited to learn in a safe and welcoming environment where students engage with others.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 When students are intrinsically motivated they ask questions, seek knowledge, and demonstrate resiliency.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 Intrinsically motivated students are eager to learn and happy to work. They know why they are learning and how it benefits them.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
BAM! Yes!!! This.
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https://t.co/0rNdniwqu2
TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: When a S comes to me and says can you give me more practice on ___ because I still need to work on it.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@kirk_humphreys
It starts with an idea. Let's make a plan.
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koliver555
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
A5 This is it exactly
@kirk_humphreys
#sblchat
https://t.co/f3ptwdVB9h
kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:44 PM EDT
A5: When you see students excited to learn in a safe and welcoming environment where students engage with others.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
@KatieBudrow
And when you have happy kids...happy parents follow.
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mattsnow9
Oct 19 @ 9:45 PM EDT
For AP Lang--3rd and 4th voluntary revisions for no real points
#sblchat
#aplangchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
RT Q5 What does intrinsic motivation look like in classrooms and schools?
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brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5
#SBLchat
Easier 2 B intrinsically motivated when U know it is ok to make mistakes & U R given multiple opportunities to demo learning
KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
And happy teachers. :)
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Ss work hard because they know it will pay benefits of success - they practice and learn and greet assessments with confidence.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Encountering (and ideally choosing) tasks, questions, problems, challenges that are personally inspiring
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
This>>>they choose challenges because they know it will make them better.
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https://t.co/AYQjQr4mFs
hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:46 PM EDT
A5: Encountering (and ideally choosing) tasks, questions, problems, challenges that are personally inspiring
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@DRich0696
Success breeds success!
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5. Intrinsic looks like Ss taking the lead and Ts facilitating the learning by offering effective feedback and next steps.
#sblchat
chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5: Revisions on work, even after final is submitted
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jbrogley
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
A5: Authentic learning experiences where the outcomes are clear
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
Intrinsically motivated learning is most evident when you see students creating b/c they can, not because they must.
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I love
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https://t.co/wGqaBGJ6Kg
MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: S's that ask for opportunities to do more & T's that find new ways to make learning relevant.
#sblchat
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
This.
#sblchat
https://t.co/qILtKoF88S
kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
I love
#sblchat
https://t.co/wGqaBGJ6Kg
Aricfoster2
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: culture in the room. Being part of a brand like the commitment my
#fostere11
kids are making each day.
#sblchat
https://t.co/Nj3ssLTcem
kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
@KatieBudrow
and then happy teachers.
#sblchat
scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:48 PM EDT
A5: "Hey, Mr. H. Could I show what I can do like this instead?"
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
A5: Complicate things a little: Intrinsic motivation exists in RELATIONSHIP not just w/in individuals
#sblchat
DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
This describes my ideal classroom - still working on it.
#sblchat
https://t.co/lkm9t585KA
ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:47 PM EDT
A5. Intrinsic looks like Ss taking the lead and Ts facilitating the learning by offering effective feedback and next steps.
#sblchat
kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
I totally see your point. I also appreciate the convo. Good stuff.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:49 PM EDT
@DRich0696
We will always be working at it...
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:50 PM EDT
How to stick with PLC pacing guides and allow Ss to learn at their own pace? PLC common tests/exams?
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
@ReedTaraann1
Feedback. YES! Had a convo with a P today because another T has Ss grade papers and clicker tests. 0 feedback. :-(
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:51 PM EDT
Looking to create a list of actively practicing SBG Eds and districts. Please add & share
https://t.co/hirfI9HY8S
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
Q6 How can we foster an environment that supports intrinsic motivation?
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@kenmattingly
Thank you for so graciously engaging with me. The questions I'm asking you, I'm also asking of myself.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:52 PM EDT
@EconTeach
That is always the balance we work to find. We have to meet kids where they are or gaps develop that deepen over time.
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KatieBudrow
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 Tap into what each kid is passionate about. Timely question, as we started passion projects today!
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6 Give kids ownership in the classroom - it is about them and their learning, not about you!
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kirk_humphreys
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: By creating an environment where the students are excited to talk about their learning.
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kenmattingly
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
@scotthazeu
that's all we can do. Question our process and try to improve.
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hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: We need to quit a bunch of stuff cold turkey and then suffer for a while
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Make intrinsic motivation a foundational part of the culture. Model it and expect it.
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:53 PM EDT
A6: Stop giving HW for points, tests for points, projects for points. Points prevent intrinsic motivation.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
RT Q6 How can we foster an environment that supports intrinsic motivation?
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MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Celebrating all victories -- even the small ones -- with positive feedback! Growth looks different for every child.
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6 Educate Ps, Ts, As, Ss on benefits of
#SBL
culture shift - then move instruction to be about Ss needs & Ts become facilitators
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chicknorris307
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
Model, model, model. Talk about our own intrinsic motivation, and share our hopes that students will find it too
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TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
@ReedTaraann1
Ss are frustrated too, enough that they brought it to parent. Sometimes Ts do what's easiest, not best for kids.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
Want to continue the conversation? Join our Standards Based Learning and Grading facebook page:
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EGHSPrincipalRI
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
TY
@garnet_hillman
and
#sblchat
Need to check out a bit early tonight. Have a great rest of the week.
hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6: Feedback in lieu of grades
@joykirr
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#colchat
#ttog
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
This!
#sblchat
https://t.co/4IlGivThwm
MsSustich
Oct 19 @ 9:54 PM EDT
A6: Celebrating all victories -- even the small ones -- with positive feedback! Growth looks different for every child.
#sblchat
brettdimmer
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6
#SBLchat
Clearly state class expectations/outcomes, help Ss achieve them, & make sure grades accurately measure them AND NOTHING ELSE :)
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
@EGHSPrincipalRI
Thanks for joining us Michael!
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JJohnsonCCHS
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6 If you trully embrace it and shape learning from Student Passion/Voice and Choice, how can you not create that environment?
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:55 PM EDT
A6: Find out what Ss already love and work on, bring it into the classroom, connect it to learning outcomes, pick up S jaws.
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ReedTaraann1
Oct 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6 Growing belief that all Ss ideas matter & our schools are a place where all Ss learning is valued. We do more when feel valued.
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prinz_matt
Oct 19 @ 9:56 PM EDT
A6: Make it a responsibility of learning not an expectation on the Ss?.
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scotthazeu
Oct 19 @ 9:57 PM EDT
@hhschiaravalli
We should all make this list together and pin it up somewhere highly visible.
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Special invitation to my
#sblchat
and
#ohedchat
friends - join us for a great
#ankedchat
tomorrow night.
https://t.co/H3gOEV6H9r
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
I am always appreciative of the
#sblchat
PLN for their positivity and inspiration every week. See you next Wednesday!
hhschiaravalli
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
A6: While going through extrinsic motivation withdrawal symptoms, ratchet up relationships and relevance. Lots of tears no doubt
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MsMontagnon
Oct 19 @ 9:58 PM EDT
Have a great week,
#sblchat
! As always, I appreciate the thoughtful discourse!
garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
We missed you tonight
@RoweRikW
! Looking forward to having you with us again next week.
#sblchat
TTmomTT
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Great job tonight
@garnet_hillman
Sorry I missed you at
#wgedd
when you were so close to my hometown.
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DRich0696
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@garnet_hillman
Thanks for your continuous leadership Garnet! We are inspired by you weekly.
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garnet_hillman
- Moderator
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
@MsSustich
Thanks Kerri, so happy to have you on the chat tonight!
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EconTeach
Oct 19 @ 9:59 PM EDT
Inspired by
#sblchat
! Thank you all!
@ChrisRugg