#ATchat Archive

#ATchat makes education and educational materials accessible to all students.

Wednesday February 14, 2018
8:00 PM EST

  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Please introduce yourself and tell us how you celebrated the day. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:00 PM EST
    Welcome to the Valentines Day edition of #ATchat!
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Tonight we are excited to welcome @possbeth who will lead us in a conversation about Collaborative Reflective Coaching. #ATchat
  • tdcraw Feb 14 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Tiffany from Oklahoma. I’ll be in and out tonight. Love the topic. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:01 PM EST
    I Know. It's devastating. The UDL Tech Toolkit Wiki (used by thousands over the years) will need a new home! https://t.co/vjMlnLzIL4 #ATchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:01 PM EST
    Beth from MD facilitating tonight after a day of school Valentine's parties! The highlight was the yummy pupusa's that one student brought to share! #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Yes, great topic - isn't it what we do all day? Love that it has a name!. #ATchat
    • tdcraw Feb 14 @ 8:01 PM EST
      Tiffany from Oklahoma. I’ll be in and out tonight. Love the topic. #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:02 PM EST
    I'm Chris from Virginia! I've got a new book coming out later this Spring all about coaching in the world of AT! And I spent tonight reading A Wrinkle In Time with my daughter! #atchat #MrsWhatsItForTheWin
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:02 PM EST
    Thank you so much for facilitating tonight. Looking forward to your thoughts. #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:03 PM EST
    What tools are you considering? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Welcome - great to see you here tonight! #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast
  • JessieWchapman Feb 14 @ 8:03 PM EST
    Jessie, a current student at Chapman University in California studying Education #atchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:04 PM EST
    So happy to be here! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Well, I changed the front page to a Thinglink when Glogster needed money. Now I think I might have to go Google Sites. Do you have ideas? #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Maegan from CT I celebrated my with dinner for my 11th dating anniversary with my husband! #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome! You came to the right place! #atchat
    In reply to @JessieWchapman
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:04 PM EST
    Welcome - we love it when students join in! #ATchat
    In reply to @JessieWchapman
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
    So glad you can join us tonight! #WrinkleInTime is one of my all-time favorite books! #atchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Congratulations! Great to have you here! #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Google Sites is so easy to use. It would be the tool I would have suggested to look at first. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Q1:How do you defining coaching as an AT practitioner or specialist? #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
    Does that mean your first date was Valentines Day? #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Yes it was! :) #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Mine too! Because it is all about celebrating differences! #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:06 PM EST
    Wow! that's risky. But look where you are now! #ATchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hi all, James here from Boston - mixing a gym session and #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:07 PM EST
    A1 - I honestly haven't considered what I do as coaching although it is time to reframe it as such. We are the guide on the side, helping to build capacity so we are no longer needed. #ATchat
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:07 PM EST
    Hello from western MA #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:08 PM EST
    @bcdtech Welcome to you both. Massachusetts is well represented! #ATchat
    In reply to @JamesNorthridge, @bcdtech
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:08 PM EST
    Looking forward to reading it - will it be in audio? #atchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:08 PM EST
    I define coaching as a combination of services to allow the direct service providers adequately provide services when I am not there. Including e-mails, face to face, direct time, videos, data, anything to help them learn. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:09 PM EST
    Interested to hear your thoughts since this is an area of interest of yours. What have you discovered? #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:05 PM EST
      Q1:How do you defining coaching as an AT practitioner or specialist? #ATchat
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:09 PM EST
    lol It helps that we were friends first! #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:09 PM EST
    A1: First step, not to call myself a specialist anymore. I use facilitator or coach, which means really leaning toward helping others figure things out for themselves rather than provide answers. Guided questions, rather than solutions. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:10 PM EST
    I would typically call it my consulting piece, but it is really coaching, espcially when it comes to my more severely impacted inviduals. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Two of my favorite coaching gurus M'lisa Sheldon and Danthan Rush talk about coaching as exactly that--building capacity in others. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:10 PM EST
    Oh and also to parents. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:10 PM EST
    I thinks that's easier to do when you work within the district. Here in MA, most towns can't afford distric AT "facilitators" so they need to bring in consultants (like me). #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth
    • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:09 PM EST
      A1: First step, not to call myself a specialist anymore. I use facilitator or coach, which means really leaning toward helping others figure things out for themselves rather than provide answers. Guided questions, rather than solutions. #atchat
      In reply to @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Yes--helping others learn so they can do it when you are not there! #atchat #coaching
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:11 PM EST
    Thanks James! Digital, yes. Audio, I don't think so. I have advocated for at least one sample chapter to be in audio format. That is the plan. #atchat
    In reply to @JamesNorthridge, @KarenJan
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:12 PM EST
    Love this evolution of practice and thought. #ATChat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:12 PM EST
    A1 - agree totally, I think specialist means your coming in with silver bullet. #atchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:13 PM EST
    Rush and Sheldon talk about coaching as an opportunity to work themselves out of a job by building capacity, confidence and competence in others. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:14 PM EST
    I agree. Coaching is not a one-off. It is a process, vs the silver bullet specialist who drops in solves your problems and sends the bill. #atchat More of a relationship than a contract.
    In reply to @JamesNorthridge, @attipscast, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:14 PM EST
    That has always been my intention and I say that when I meet with special education directors. Unfortunately, we have never been busier. #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @attipscast
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:13 PM EST
      Rush and Sheldon talk about coaching as an opportunity to work themselves out of a job by building capacity, confidence and competence in others. #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:14 PM EST
    And then they continue to depend on you to make things work all the time! #atchat
    In reply to @JamesNorthridge, @attipscast
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Should the instructional technology coach or facilitator also be the assistive technology coach or facilitator? #ATchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
    never going to actually happen...but its really the goal! There is always someone new to coach #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
    Were you thinking of me?? #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
    I bet that is currently true. I bet coming in from the outside has its unique challenges. Still, you seem to be moving in that direction. What do see as the major challenges to achieving this goal? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:16 PM EST
    My hope is when we build capacity, their colleagues in the classroom next door can coach them so I'm unnecessary. #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @attipscast
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
      never going to actually happen...but its really the goal! There is always someone new to coach #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Why not, if they have the skill set to guide?! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:16 PM EST
    Defo leads to less involvement and buy-in #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @attipscast
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:16 PM EST
    I think it is hard because other professionals don't have the time to keep up with technology. They just have no idea what is possible out there. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth, @attipscast
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:17 PM EST
    That's the myth, right? Myth: You will actually work yourself out of a job. Truth: Things are always changing (and so is staff!). #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • kbehnke Feb 14 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Love this... about coaching. #ATChat
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:13 PM EST
      Rush and Sheldon talk about coaching as an opportunity to work themselves out of a job by building capacity, confidence and competence in others. #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:17 PM EST
    Why not? If we are truly coaching to build capacity, couldn't the Instructional Tech coaches pick up more of the coaching in the day-to-day tasks. #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech
    • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
      Were you thinking of me?? #ATchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:17 PM EST
    You need to ask yourself are building capacity or creating dependence with your choice of action? #atchat #coaching #atchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Why not work together? We have times where both happen. More universal... Hmm... Universal Technology Specialist? #ATChat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    Q2: What coaching strategies have been effective for you as an AT practitioner? #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    That seems to be the key, relationships for the win! It's about building relationships, trust, and empowering the learners with a mindset to own it! #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @JamesNorthridge, @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    The push from advocates and some parents for an AT Evaluation first and not even consider a consultation. Big obstacle. #ATchat
    • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM EST
      I bet that is currently true. I bet coming in from the outside has its unique challenges. Still, you seem to be moving in that direction. What do see as the major challenges to achieving this goal? #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    It's what I do every day. I use tech to help ALL students. Get called in on IEPs, etc. However, time- as always is my issue. Can't really do 2 jobs and work part time :-) #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • JessieWchapman Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
    A1: From what I hear from others I would consider coaching as building capacity while avoiding dependence #atchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:19 PM EST
    I think you nailed it! #atchat
    In reply to @JessieWchapman
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:20 PM EST
    There you go, bringing up the name change! What does @attipscast think of that name? #ATchat
    • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM EST
      Why not work together? We have times where both happen. More universal... Hmm... Universal Technology Specialist? #ATChat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:20 PM EST
    Is there a difference between coaching and consulting? If so, what is it? #ATchat
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:21 PM EST
    A2. “You can do it!” #atchat
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:21 PM EST
    I feel like coaching is the every day stuff and a consult is being asked to help solve a specific issue. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Here is a great video on building capacity. It discusses it in terms of early intervention services, but it really applies to any coaching opportunity https://t.co/p43ce0zl4a #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:22 PM EST
    A2 - modeling, sharing success stories. Just today, I met with a teacher and she immediately implemented two strategies with her students while I was there! Awesome. #ATchat
  • JessieWchapman Feb 14 @ 8:22 PM EST
    Q2: I am still a student but I believe instructing with a positive growth mindset mentality is the way to go! #atchat
  • KerriHslp Feb 14 @ 8:23 PM EST
    I feel like coaching is more hands-on than consulting #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:23 PM EST
    A2: Taking time to listen to the concerns and involving sigficant people as part of the process from the time of selection through implementation- people are more likely to do when they feel involved. #ATchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:23 PM EST
    Yes, definitely! Coaching involves reflective questions that guide the teacher, therapist, parent, etc to consider what they think worked or did not work and what they think the next steps are. Consult often means telling them #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:24 PM EST
    That makes sense. Do you need to be an FTE to be the coach then? As a consultant, you aren't in the building often. #ATchat
    • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:21 PM EST
      I feel like coaching is the every day stuff and a consult is being asked to help solve a specific issue. #ATchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:24 PM EST
    And how did you set her up to keep doing it when you are not there? #whathappensinbetweenthevisits #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    I think that is interesting. I function in my building as the AT, but I also have a smaller SLP caseload. All of our speech students have direct and 'consultation' speech - but I guess you'd call it coaching because we do it all time not just when there is a problem. #ATchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    What steps might you see yourself taking to help solve change the actions of the advocates? #ATchat #SeeWhatIDidThere
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    I am .5fte and end up doing fulltime on my own time, but realistically need more time with kids/teachers to do a good job. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    That's a possibility. There are Innovation Specialist and Facilitator positions. Why not what you suggest? #ATchat
  • kbehnke Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    #atchat I think we also have to consider who pays for the position. Gen Ed vs. SpEd
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:25 PM EST
    I don't think you need to be full time to be a coach. It is leaving the coachee with the strategies to keep going when you are not there. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:26 PM EST
    She saw the results immediately and the strategy she used saves her time and is better for her students. I think she will continue to use it. I'll see her again in a month. What do you suggest? #ATchat
  • Marsye Feb 14 @ 8:27 PM EST
    reflective coaching builds capacity through guided reflection into one's own practice by the coach. #atchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:27 PM EST
    A2: I've been learning about #MotivationalInterviewing This strategy/technique is all about asking guiding questions to bring about an internal change in the person being coached. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:27 PM EST
    In order to reach all the kids/teachers who need help/coaching, I simply need more time. Not with one person- but to reach all who need coaching. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:27 PM EST
    @KarenJan @attipscast @kbehnke what do you leave folks with so that they keep doing the hard work when you are not there? #atchat
  • speechdude Feb 14 @ 8:28 PM EST
    Coaching guides staff, as opposed to AT specialist that know specifics to meeting special needs (for those w/ IEPs, etc.). #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:28 PM EST
    You're asking me to move mountains. It's a big business up here. I have presented to their state-wide group but that was four years ago. Ideas? #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:29 PM EST
    One of the most powerful reflective coaching strategies is to ask them what they think they can continue to do on their own #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Are there ways to coach other than face to face? #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
  • mswhitson Feb 14 @ 8:29 PM EST
    Modeling is a brief interaction, while coaching implies a longer and more solidified role #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:29 PM EST
    How do you hold them accountable? Do they write it down? Do you share it in a Google doc? ?? #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Is there ways to utilize blended approach to it - so leaving them with access to some online materials etc #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:30 PM EST
    Maybe so. Help me further understand what you're thinking. Why do you think it is important to consider who is paying for the position? #ATchat
    In reply to @kbehnke
  • Marsye Feb 14 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Glad to see RC topic. Many have the skill with families but lack peer 2 peer #atchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Write it down for sure, but helping them feel confident that they can do it when you leave. #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:31 PM EST
    Yes, I share video links all the time and encourage them to contact me if needed. We can always screenshare! #ATchat
    In reply to @kbehnke, @possbeth, @attipscast
    • kbehnke Feb 14 @ 8:30 PM EST
      Lots of resources, pics or videos, contact info and a check in if the contract allows for it. Building capacity is critical.
      In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Yes and no. There are ways to do it as "blended" learning, but I find that it is most effective if it is hands on with followup. If tech intimidates the learner- Ss or Ts- they will not use it to access.#ATchat
    In reply to @JamesNorthridge, @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:32 PM EST
    I sympathize with you Karen. I am in one building, but I so often I am called often with questions. A lot of people just don't think the way we do. It takes a long time to get people on board, and then staff changes and you start all over again. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:32 PM EST
    Q3: What barriers are put in place when you coach for effective AT use? #ATchat
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:33 PM EST
    What about giving an option of some virtual office hours #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @kbehnke, @possbeth, @attipscast
  • speechdude Feb 14 @ 8:33 PM EST
    We have 6 tech coaches in our district. 2 day long trainings to ALL staff per year. Individual training any time needed w/ request. It's awesome #atchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:33 PM EST
    My hope is that they feel empowered to make a change. This doesn't necessarily happen at the end of the 1st session depending on the topic (#Augcomm, looking at you). I hope I leave them w/ a sense that they can take action to make things better for themselves & students #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan, @kbehnke
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:34 PM EST
    A2 Here are some proven strategies: Joint Planning – an agreed-upon plan between the coach and coachee as to what they will work on and in what routines or activities #atchat
  • kbehnke Feb 14 @ 8:34 PM EST
    #ATChat My thinking is that it shouldn’t matter- however, The title should reflect the main goal of the job. Curriculum, design, accommodations, etc. #AdminBuyIn
    In reply to @attipscast
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:34 PM EST
    I think one of my biggest frustrations is I come at education with an OT mindset.We are all about independence.Schools promote S dependence through 1:1 interactions & don't see that as a problem.Coaching involves changing mindsets and long-standing instructional beliefs. #ATchat
  • tjoshaughnessy Feb 14 @ 8:35 PM EST
    well put Chris #atchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth, @KarenJan, @kbehnke
  • PRC_Gretchen Feb 14 @ 8:35 PM EST
    A great Valentine's read...you know, to get #allthefeels. #AugComm #AACisPower #SLPeeps #ATChat Words https://t.co/zGud1euvyd via @wordpressdotcom
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:36 PM EST
    Some coaching strategies: Joint Planning, Observation, Reflection, Feedback #atchat
  • mswhitson Feb 14 @ 8:36 PM EST
    A3: common barriers are time, consistency and staff to continue the intervention. However, often staff inform limited time to foster theninterventionnor have a limited knowledge base to make modifications on the fly. #ATchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Are you texting on a phone? That happens to me all the time - adding "n"s between words. :-) #ATchat
    In reply to @mswhitson
  • PRC_Gretchen Feb 14 @ 8:37 PM EST
    Great Valentine's read...you know, to get #allthefeels. #AugComm #AACisPower #ATChat #SLPeeps https://t.co/zGud1euvyd
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:38 PM EST
    A3: Time, knowledge of equipment, staff changes, and people's misinformation. Oh and people who are techniphobic. #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:38 PM EST
    I know a book you can invite them to read ;) Seriously though, advocates can continue to exist without requesting AT Evals. Perhaps advocates can participate in a collaborative SETT-like decision making process? Just like AT, perhaps there is not silver bullet here #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:38 PM EST
    What does that look like in practice? How much time do you have set aside and how many sessions for that approach? #ATchat
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:36 PM EST
      Some coaching strategies: Joint Planning, Observation, Reflection, Feedback #atchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 14 @ 8:39 PM EST
    I remember advocates in Boston & it was tough going at times. Needed to build relationships of trust across several clients before anything changed & even then not always. #ATchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @attipscast
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Tool(s) to task? ;-) #ATChat
    In reply to @attipscast, @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Sometimes starting with or mixing in low tech strategies can help overcome this #atchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM EST
    Can't the norm be/become to have a consult FIRST before demanding a full AT eval? Seems like it's becoming a default. #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM EST
    I think I see what you're saying. Administrators won't necessarily just create a job of this nature out of the blue. Perhaps #ESSA provides an opportunity to blur those lines a bit? What do you think? #atchat
    In reply to @kbehnke
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:41 PM EST
    It means planning for joint planning--but this creates buy in. Asking what do you want to work on next? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Asking reflective questions can be as important as the time spent showing how to do/use something #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Yes! #atchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Would be nice. IDEA says evaluate in all areas of suspected disability and you can't have an AT disability. Then in the AT service part, it talks about an AT evaluation. contradictory and confusing. #ATchat
    • bcdtech Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM EST
      Can't the norm be/become to have a consult FIRST before demanding a full AT eval? Seems like it's becoming a default. #ATchat
      In reply to @attipscast, @KarenJan
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Thanks for the suggestion. Sometimes I have the problem midstream, when the student is already using their tech well, but someone new comes in and keeps moving it 'out of the way' because they see it as a burden. It takes awhile to convince people sometimes. #ATchat
    In reply to @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
    Q4: What reflective questions do you ask when you coach AT users, family members, therapists or teachers? #ATchat
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:43 PM EST
    Never took that approach, great tip. #atchat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Wow, Marsye! Is the first time you are joining us? #ATchat
    In reply to @Marsye, @attipscast
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:44 PM EST
    Providing the new person an opportunity to just observe the student might be helpful #atchat
    In reply to @MaegeK
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Imagine a system where there was no "Eval". What if is was Request Assistance (to help the IEP team determine what is necessary for FAPE)? It might still include a functional evaluation (assessment) but not necessarily written as "AT Evaluation." Thoughts? #atchat
    In reply to @bcdtech, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:45 PM EST
    #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @VickiBostonSLP
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:45 PM EST
    A4 You have me reflecting on my practice and realizing I need to ask more reflective questions. I have slides that show the importance of reflection but don't necessary ask those questions. #ATchat
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:42 PM EST
      Q4: What reflective questions do you ask when you coach AT users, family members, therapists or teachers? #ATchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:45 PM EST
    So glad to have you here @Marsye ! I know you have so much to share about reflective coaching! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @Marsye, @attipscast, @Marsye
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:45 PM EST
    Great point! Today, reflecting helped a user understand and articulate the value of using which tool in what context- didn’t come from me, but from the user. #ATChat
    In reply to @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:46 PM EST
    I imagine that on a daily basis. We just need to rewrite federal law. You have me moving mountains again. #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @bcdtech
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:47 PM EST
    It could be that they ended up there because of negative experiences that built up over time. What do you think are some ways to win them back to become more effective, willing collaborators? #atchat
    In reply to @mswhitson, @VickiBostonSLP, @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:47 PM EST
    A few to get you started: At what point did you notice …? Describe what happened when … Tell me more about … #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:47 PM EST
    That’s the mindset change that is needed - hard sometimes as solutions are expected ASAP. Great if we have the time. #atchat
    In reply to @hillarygfphdatp, @possbeth, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:48 PM EST
    I know, right? I feel like I haven't physically seen you in ages! Miss you! #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @Marsye
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:48 PM EST
    Retweet worthy! #ATchat
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:47 PM EST
      A few to get you started: At what point did you notice …? Describe what happened when … Tell me more about … #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 14 @ 8:48 PM EST
    A4: with my grad students I often start with a general “how do you think that went?” & then break down a snapshot of something specific to discuss. That works when teaching something new. #atchat
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:48 PM EST
    That's what friends are for #atchat #atpeeps
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • hillarygfphdatp Feb 14 @ 8:49 PM EST
    It should be a unifier, IMHO. Hard to be inclusive if there are two separate camps. #ATChat
    In reply to @mswhitson, @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:49 PM EST
    Rewrite it or reinterpret it? What is the definition of a Functional Evaluation? I think that is defined by practice. So, maybe we change the practice? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan, @bcdtech
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:50 PM EST
    Hmmm.....#ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @bcdtech
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:51 PM EST
    A4: What are you seeing the X do in x situation? Tell me a little about what happened? What did you think of X interaction? Just get them talking and thinking :) #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Like, "What do you think the difference between coaching and consulting might be? What made you come to that conclusion? How is that working for you?" Something like that @possbeth ? #atchat
    • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:23 PM EST
      Yes, definitely! Coaching involves reflective questions that guide the teacher, therapist, parent, etc to consider what they think worked or did not work and what they think the next steps are. Consult often means telling them #atchat
      In reply to @KarenJan
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:51 PM EST
    Here is another great resource on asking reflective questions https://t.co/puzjtqx4nL #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:54 PM EST
    And, "are your methods reaching all of your learners? Is that working for all of them? Is it time to rethink what you are doing?" is that too direct? #ATchat
  • VickiBostonSLP Feb 14 @ 8:54 PM EST
    I really like the way Gayle Bowser has talked about the continuum between the two & how you can go from one end of the continuum to another, depending on what a team needs at different points. #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:55 PM EST
    A4: What makes you think that way? What goal are you trying to achieve? What steps will you take to make that goal happen? How will you measure it? Will you be my Valentine? #atchat #MaybeNotThatLastOne
    In reply to @possbeth
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Welcome! Everyone has a first time. Just remember to add the hashtag so we can all learn from you. #ATchat
    In reply to @Marsye, @attipscast
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:55 PM EST
    Q5: It is Valentine’s Day! So what do you LOVE about coaching others? #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:56 PM EST
    #lastonesthebest #ATchat
    In reply to @attipscast, @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:56 PM EST
    What would your thoughts be if someone asked you the same questions? Direct is needed sometimes, but sometimes we need to lead gently, maybe?? #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A5 - I love empowering them, challenging them to think in new ways to reach all learners. When we empower teachers, students benefit. When we empower students, they can change the world. #ATchat
  • MaegeK Feb 14 @ 8:57 PM EST
    A5: I love when people being coached can suggest a tool or strategy used for one student can work for someone else! #ATchat
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:57 PM EST
    This is true. I just had a teacher ask me for podcasts to share with families. I didn't coach in that case. I just sent a list. Perhaps there isn't just one way for all situations. #atchat
    In reply to @VickiBostonSLP, @possbeth
  • possbeth Feb 14 @ 8:58 PM EST
    Does Melissa know you are asking that last one?! #atchat
    In reply to @attipscast
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:58 PM EST
    A5 - seeing real change happening in the student’s experience, not because of what I did, more so as it driven by teachers/parents after working them. #atchat
  • KarenJan - Moderator Feb 14 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Oh, my. It's already 9:00! how did that happen? #ATchat
  • JamesNorthridge Feb 14 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Empowering being the key #atchat
    In reply to @KarenJan
  • attipscast Feb 14 @ 8:59 PM EST
    Hey @JokeOfBugaj You okay with that last question? #atchat #YouAreMyRealValentine
    In reply to @possbeth, @JokeOfBugaj